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April 18, 2019

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MissMarple2

If you guys can get hold of the Rudy Guliani interview with Laura Ingraham, it is well worth listening to. His level of outrage at the democrats, Mueller, and others is wonderful.

Captain Hate

Any predictions as to which of the coup principals flips first? I've narrowed it down to McCabe, Page or Baker.


I'll go with Page, if she has a drop of estrogen left in her---she is a momma, after all.

Page has already flipped to Horowitz, Huber or whoever; which is why she was permitted to retire and not get fired.

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/RoscoeBDavis1/status/1119121395277975552

Down towards the end of this thread we learn that only 6% of the report was redacted.

James D.

I don't see how anyone can view Mueller as a good guy after that stink bomb of a Report.

I certainly don't.

If he actually were a good guy, he would have written a report that left the Democrats and MSM no ammunition whatsoever to continue to harp on. He could have, and should have, because there WERE no crimes. And Mueller's been around DC his whole career - he knows EXACTLY how these thing work.

He's still a black hat, and a traitor, and he still ought to hang along with everyone else on his team and 95% of the employees at DoJ (a conservative estimate).

MissMarple2

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mueller-report-points-to-australian-governments-role-in-sparking-fbis-trump-campaign-investigation_2886649.html

This is a detailed but easy-to-understand discussion of Downer, Mifsud, and Papadopoulos. The Australian government seems to have been involved.

MissMarple2


Rich Weinstein
‏ @phillyrich1
14m14 minutes ago

These are the same people calling for the abolishment of the Electoral College.

DNC Bosses Contemplating a Superdelegate Coup if Bernie Sanders Leads in Delegates https://gritpost.com/dnc-bosses-superdelegate-coup/ … via @grit_post

MissMarple2


The Hill
‏Verified account @thehill
20m20 minutes ago

Buttigieg responds to Mueller report http://hill.cm/DZziYfX

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Who asked him? What possible reason did there need to be a story on this guy's opinion?

MissMarple2

Rudy is NOT complimentary of Mueller, by the way.

MissMarple2

I have to agree with anonamom about the Strzok/Page relationship. I saw no evidence there was any sort of romance between them.

RattlerGator

Good morning. The truly bodacious squall lines that were supposed to move through Tallahassee overnight didn't. But they are just a few miles away now. I'm going to settle in and do some JOM reading as the storm passes over.

Hopefully I'll find The Ledge celebrating as the Trump Administration remains one step ahead of our bumbling & stumbling betters.

henry

WSJ this morning (online):

Robert Mueller’s long-awaited report is unambiguously clear on this point: Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election and sought to help Donald Trump win the White House.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-has-won-mueller-report-details-the-ways-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-election-11555666201?mod=hp_lead_pos1

The headline is "Putin Won"

Like AGW or Socialism, the lie will never end.

henry

Kimberley Strassel @KimStrassel
11h

"The report instead mostly reads as a lengthy defense of the FBI—of its shaky claims about how its investigation began, of its far-fetched theories, of its procedures, even of its leadership."

Captain Hate

There is no logical reason Russia would prefer DJT to Rodham; that flies in the face of logical thinking and of policies since 2016.

Tom R

MJw @ 1:22

That’s why I’m not declaringl vindication yet. Do you at least acknowledge until the names referrals are known you can’t rule out that Mueller was working with Trump in some manner?

henry

Strassel just decoded the report. Pure coverup of the institution. Tells me it is time to end FBI, there is no baby in that bath water.

henry

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
21s

Statements are made about me by certain people in the Crazy Mueller Report, in itself written by 18 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, which are fabricated & totally untrue. Watch out for people that take so-called “notes,” when the notes never existed until needed. Because I never....

MissMarple2

Captain Hate,

I agree. Putin would have been more comfortable with Hillary. She was going to be a continuation of Obama's policies, which were fairly pro-Russian. He knew her and he did NOT know Trump. It makes no sense.

This morning Sara Carter and Brian Kilmeade point out a portion of the report where Vladimir Putin is quoted as being "worried that he didn't know enough about Trump after he won!" That does not a quote from a guy who was working to get Trump elected.

Tom R

I don't see how anyone can view Mueller as a good guy after that stink bomb of a Report.

His exoneration of Trump would be the starting point. The 12 redacted criminal referrals move the needle in that direction as well.

MissMarple2

henry,

I think the FBI needs to at least be reformed and reorganized. I still cannot get over those 302's and that no interviews were recorded. That gives way too much room for "interpretation" if not outright fabrication of witness testimony.

MissMarple2

Tom R.,

You need to hear Rudy Guliani's opinion before you come to a final conclusion.

henry

MissM, I'm for ending FBI, then starting a new Fed police agency under Sheriff Clarke, with a new ethos and culture. Anyone associated with FBI is tainted in my book.

James D.

His exoneration of Trump would be the starting point. The 12 redacted criminal referrals move the needle in that direction as well.

Then why did he write a report that he had to know would give cover to the Dems/MSM efforts to tear down President Trump?

Why can we not have anyone in DC do something clearly and unambiguously RIGHT, without any weasel words or ass covering, or obfuscation or equivocation? Mueller had every chance to do that, and at every chance, he refused.

Fuck him, and fuck everyone on his team.

Captain Hate

His exoneration of Trump would be the starting point.

It's not his job to exonerate Trump; his job was to charge Trump or not charge Trump. This abominable of a report is an unconstitutional nightmare no matter what comes out of it.

henry

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
5m

...agreed to testify, it was not necessary for me to respond to statements made in the “Report” about me, some of which are total bullshit & only given to make the other person look good (or me to look bad). This was an Illegally Started Hoax that never should have happened, a...

Captain Hate

Abominable autocucumber abomination

MissMarple2

henry,

If you are my age you remember how the FBI had a secret police vibe from Hoover's day, one which they only lost when Hoover died and they made that TV series with Efram Zimbalist, Jr.

Well, the PR effort of the last few decades has now been destroyed. Now it is obvious that they will entrap people, mislead them, twist evidence, and even manufacture it. What chance does an average citizen have against them?

Tom R

James D,

What cover are you referring to? All I have seen so far are Democrats and the MSM in meltdown mode and making fools of themselves. Do you seriously think any of that hurts Trump in any manner? I’m perfectly fine with those idiots pushing impeachment for obstruction of justice all the way up to the 2020 election.

MissMarple2

"some of which are total bullshit.."

There's that guy I voted for, and by golly I do love him! LOL!

jimmyk

If Strassel is right that the report reads like a defense of the FBI, then it doesn’t seem likely hat those 12 referrals are FBI/Obama DoJ people. Nor does it lead me to think that Mueller is a good guy.

MissMarple2

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/joe-biden-running-president/587560/

Video announcement on Wednesday.

Old Lurker

MM "Tom R., You need to hear Rudy Guliani's opinion before you come to a final conclusion."

THAT will never happen with Tom or RG. To be fair to them both, neither will I ever see Mueller and Rosenstein both with very black hats. Mueller's is blackest because he knew exactly which side he was playing for, and Rosenstein because he was happy to sell his "competent colonel" skills to whichever power he thought would prevail, but he guessed wrong. And no, neither the "Happy Ending" Barr gave him in the intro yesterday, nor the lingering fact that Trump kept him around changes my mind about him.

jimmyk

...likely THAT....

Captain Hate

What chance does an average citizen have against them?

None. If you're in the crosshairs of anyone in the DOJ, which was not formed by the Constitution, you are SOOL. The entire department needs to go away.

Davod

Kimberley Strassel's comment:

"The report instead mostly reads as a lengthy defense of the FBI—of its shaky claims about how its investigation began, of its far-fetched theories, of its procedures, even of its leadership."

Reminded me of the defense attorney who, some time ago (but commenting about Mueller and the Trump investigation) said that he was attending a conference (FBI/DOJ and appellants lawyers) and when Mueller came in he stated that any criticism of the FBI is a nonstarter.

Tom R

OL,

Thank you for confirming your mind is made up and you refuse to acknowledge any facts that would force you to admit your opinion was wrong.

I will at least admit I am wrong with the facts indicate that. Until then while we are all speculating on uncertainties and connecting the dots I’ll stick with my gut.

Tom R

BTW anyone else get the impression Trump’s tweets this morning are referring to the “my presidency is over. I’m fucked” quote attributed to him?

Another Bob

TomR, you’re like that Ronald Reagan joke about the kid gleefully wading through horseshit, convinced that it only means there must be a pony under it all somewhere.

Trump was “exonerated” of the “Russian Collusion”. (Probably because pursuing the whole “dossier” nonsense points at the “wrong” people.) That’s all. Mueller left lots of obstruction hints, that dems are jumping into with both feet as the next front opened in their attacks. From his demonstrated history of indictments, there’s no reason to assume Mueller’s referrals get to the heart of anything, or even target the correct side.

Strzok, Page, McCabe, Steele, Simpson, the Ohrs et al. are the cannon fodder in all this. Indicting them won’t matter.

Tom R

In addition to exonerating Trump Mueller also exonerated Kushner.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229428389.html

Buckeye

Until then while we are all speculating on uncertainties and connecting the dots I’ll stick with my gut.

Most straightforward and believable thing you've said in a long time TomR.

Another Bob

And Mueller (correctly?) put it in prosecutor-speak. Never saying “collusion did not happen”, but “we found no evidence of collusion”. This is already being ignored by progs who simply point at Mueller’s nicely documented evidence of “Trump people’s contacts with Russians”.

Beasts of England

Tom R - who do you think the players are in the redacted referrals? (Not a gotcha question - I know it's speculation at this point.) Do you think it's folks auch as Halper or McCabe, or maybe names we haven't yet considered?

Buckeye

BTW, my mind is made up too.

Tom R

Another Bob,

All of those obstruction hints were public knowledge that we’ve known about for a long time. So what? The Democrats have been falsely accusing Trump of obstruction of justice for a long time. How do you think it would have gone over if Mueller did not conduct a thorough investigation into those false allegations? Has anyone here changed their mind and now believe Trump may be guilty of obstruction of justice thanks to what you read in Muellers report? Raise your hand and tell us why. My guess is nothing in that report changed anyone’s mind on the obstruction of justice charge.

Captain Hate

And George Conway is still a miserable human being.

Tom R

Buckeye @ 8:41

I’ve been saying it for a long time.

Beasts of England

I bought a few heirloom tomatoes at the farmer's market yesterday. They're locally grown hydroponic; obviously hot house products at this time of the year. So, I had a Cherokee Purple sammich for breakfast this morning. Pretty darned good...

I also bought some fresh mozzarella and basil to go with my Hillbillys, so you know what I'm having for lunch today!! 😋

Tom R

Buckeye @ 8:42

What are you going to do if your assumptions and speculations involving the uncertainties turn out to be wrong?

henry

California can screw up everything:

MIT Technology Review @techreview
9h

This raises troubling questions about the effectiveness of California’s cap-and-trade program, one of the world’s most high-profile tests of creating a market and price for greenhouse-gas emissions.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613326/californias-cap-and-trade-program-may-vastly-overestimate-emissions-cuts/?utm_medium=tr_social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site_visitor.unpaid.engagement

Melinda

neufred

Tom R

Beasts @ 8:52

Since Greg Craig was one of the 14 criminal referrals I think Tony Podesta and Vin Weber are two of the 12 unknown referrals. For the other 10 I assume it’s the people we suspect like McCabe, Strzok, Baker, Brennan etc.

clarice

I'd bet a lot that the referrals have nothing to do with the FBI and IC malfeasance, but I'd bet that that is something Horowitz will deal with along with recommendations for prosecutions.

MissMarple2

NEW

Beasts of England

Thanks, Tom R!

Threadkiller

I will at least admit I am wrong with the facts indicate that.

What do the facts indicate regarding Sessions?


BTW anyone else get the impression Trump’s tweets this morning are referring to the “my presidency is over. I’m fucked” quote attributed to him?

What de the facts indicate regarding Sessions' Cheif of Staff?

Yesterday they told you us that she was part of the Days of Our Lives deception.

Threadkiller

Sumbitch.. sorry for the typos.

Tom R

TK

The facts about Sessions indicate he was also a target of the Obama criminal cabal and since he was under formal investigation by the FBI he was legally bound to recuse himself. We also know he offered his resignation to Trump on multiple occasions but Trump refused it.

I will add an opinion that Sessions was likely the most honorable man of integrity to serve in the Senate since I have been following politics. I his time as AG he was extremely successful in promoting the MAGA agenda.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

New

D

TomR:
You can believe what you want wrt Mueller.
I will never see him as honorable because of his behavior in the past and during this investigation.
MJW:
You have it correct wrt Arthur Anderson case.
I believe both were written by Weissman because of the similarities and the desire to paint the worst possible picture of President Trump.
Both he and Mueller knew they couldn’t get President Trump on anything and so offered up this poor excuse for a summary .
Both have been defeated in their quest to marginalize our President and harm his family.
It truly is a victory for him and for us who duly elected him.
We must now move quickly to nail these suckers who dared to overturn an election because their rotten candidate Hillary didn’t win.

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