Down In Venezuela

There may or may not be an uprising or coup taking place in Venezuela. CNN has been taken off the air down there. The NY Times has coverage.

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[clarice]

Heshmat Alevi is tweeting from there--excellent source with live videos.

[clarice]

Ben Rhodes
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2h2 hours ago
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Ben Rhodes Retweeted Zeke Miller
Having Elliot Abrams and John Bolton as the face of a regime change policy in Latin America is not going to serve us or the Venezuelan people well.

[D]

Rise up Venezuelans:
The time is now to seek your freedom and a better future.
I am praying for a quick transition.
This is the stuff of real life.
Not 4D Kabuki nonsense.

[boris]

It can't happen here though ... right?

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1m1 minute ago

If Cuban Troops and Militia do not immediately CEASE military and other operations for the purpose of causing death and destruction to the Constitution of Venezuela, a full and complete....

....embargo, together with highest-level sanctions, will be placed on the island of Cuba. Hopefully, all Cuban soldiers will promptly and peacefully return to their island!

[Extraneus]

Yes, I've been watching Alavi's twitter since you linked it earlier.

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi

[MissMarple2]

By the way, not only is Nadler after Tiffany Trump's charge card statements, but....

Smirk Bean
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‏ @Jillibean557

WTF?!? Complete Madness: Democrats Subpoenaed Trump's Grandkids' Personal Records (VIDEO) https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/complete-madness-democrats-subpoenaed-trumps-grandkids-personal-records-video/ … via @gatewaypundit

[Extraneus]

They'd have to disarm us first, boris.

Btw, a large capacity semi-auto would be more helpful than a blunderbuss when in such a situation.

[henry]

Ben Rhodes getting his cigar supply cut off?

[MissMarple2]

Paul Sperry
‏ @paulsperry_

BREAKING: McCabe, who's under grand jury investigation for lying about leaking, in early 2017 ordered FBI's Inspection Div to open internal probe into who leaked to Sara Carter &John Solomon at Circa News that McCabe had made disparaging remarks about Gen. Flynn in staff meetings

[clarice]

Heshmat Alavi
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@HeshmatAlavi
1h1 hour ago
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#BREAKING
Protesters breaching into La Carlota's Fransisco de Miranda military airbase in #Chuao near #Caracas #Venezuela.
Base installations taken over. Security forces seem desperate.
#OperacionLibertad

[Old Lurker]

You can run, but you can't hide Beasts!

Sorry I upset you on the other thread. I started down that train of thought yesterday when a poster I find offensive remarked that under my definition of the Ledge, he would have to be admitted. That forced me to stop and think why I would want to share space with people I simply don't want to associate with...or why they would want to associate with me if they feel the same way. So sure, Patriotism and Love of Country are good qualities for sure, and that even entitles them to more than the benefit of the doubt, but that alone is not enough to force me to live with them.

Like you, I have never resented the taxes I have paid. But there were rules and expectations we all accepted when we paid them. Those rules have been torn asunder and might or might not be restored, and even as some of us hope to rebuild the rules that were, damn near half the country wants nothing to do with that old deal.

The group can and will make whatever rules it wants, and individuals will have to decide how to live under them or away from them.

[MissMarple2]

Sotiri Dimpinoudis ❁‏
‏ @sotiridi
5h5 hours ago

#Update: Just in - Mario Abdo Benítez president of #Paraguay encourages the "brave people of #Venezuela" to take back their freedoms in its uprising. #OperacionLibertad

[Captain Hate]

If only Venezuela had a Green New Deal...

[joan]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1123311544446726145

[Buckeye]

I just thought The Ledge was for drinking the hard stuff:)

[Extraneus]

If only Venezuela had a Green New Deal...

lol

[Thomas Collins]

In the normal parlance of international politics, this is not a coup because it isn't an illegal seizure. However, there is another definition of coup that would apply if Guaido's Group succeeds in ousting the thugs.

A brilliant, sudden, and usually highly successful stroke or act.

As to Rhodes, I wouldn't call him beneath contempt, because that would be an insult to contemptible people who may have some redeeming qualities.

[Buckeye]

Tiffany Trump is in college, didn't campaign with President Trump, and pretty much keeps out of the limelight.

Weren't the Obama kids off limits?

Even the oldest, which has all the earmarks of a total fuck up is still getting the kid gloves.

[Narciso79]

He is a fatuous twit, that smithers character.

[Thomas Collins]

Re CH's Green New Deal post: CH takes the lead for 2019 JOM One Liner of the Year.

[Tom R]

OL @ 5:27

For the record, I’m glad I’m not welcome on your Ledge. It doesn’t really sound like the kind of America I swore an oath to defend.

[Beasts of England]

That was Hall of Fame material, Captain!!

[MissMarple2]

Buckeye,

Yes, they were off limits. As a matter of fact, so was Chelsea Clinton.

I am so infuriated by this and everyone should be, because this shows you what these evil people will do to lowly folks like me if they get into power.

I believe this might have ended Don Jr.'s marriage because his wife was worried about how this would go and scared for her children. As it turns out, they are still going to harass them.

He will, as I said, have to go after these people or they will destroy his family after he leaves the White House. This is what Rush said today.

[Beasts of England]

I understand your position, OL, and understand how you arrived at same. I guess we just have different demarcations.

[Old Lurker]

Everything is a Bell Curve Beasts, even lines of demarcations.

Not a bad thing.

The genius of the Constitution was how the Founders were able to weave lines from a number of groups from the old country such that the most number of diverse itches got scratched, and no unsurvivable itch went un-addressed even if some might have been deferred until they could be scratched subsequently with tools included in the document.

[henry]

They aren’t waiting to destroy the entire family of any who oppose the uniparty (how Soviet of them, near Nork level paranoid retribution - defect and they kill your entire family).

Not just Nadler. Look at the Rombley led opposition to USMCA and Cain/Moore appointments.

[Narciso79]

As I was pointing out in the last thread, padrino was school of the America trained'95 and like Khan he really studied the material.

[Dave (in MA)]

Maduro is colluding with Russia. Send Swallwell.

[joan]

OL, I moved this over here in response to you:

Yes, you're correct about Merkle and Putin for sure, as well as all of the socialism sweeping Europe for the past decades. But I have to have some way of countering what I, too, see in the future if what (at times) seems inevitable in the way the left has taken over the media and education -- two important (and sometimes non-stoppable) institutions.

As far as my other comment, I apologize. I tend to be super-sensitive sometimes.

[henry]

From twitter:

In San Diego, @BetoORourke says he has to head home to address family crises including the disappearance of baby Gus, the family turtle. Prognosis for finding Gus doesn’t look good, he says.

https://twitter.com/maevereston/status/1123309235486375937?s=21

[Buckeye]

I hope the people of Venezuela are successful in bouncing the thugs.

Would like to have the option of visiting one more time in my lifetime.

[henry]

Bolton on twitter:

.@vladimirpadrino, @Ivanr_HD, @MaikelMorenoTSJ: Your time is up. This is your last chance. Accept Interim President Guaido’s amnesty, protect the Constitution, and remove Maduro, and we will take you off our sanctions list. Stay with Maduro, and go down with the ship.

https://twitter.com/ambjohnbolton/status/1123298012145516545?s=21

[Porchlight]

The comments at henry's 5:58 are hilarious.

Every time you think Beto can't get any lamer...

[Threadkiller]

Too bad there weren't big beautiful walls around the turtle, Beta.

[henry]

Bolton vid from White House

https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1123346471477219333?s=21

[JM Hanes]

Narciso:

If you're around, could you tell me what the guy is saying in this Video over at Heshmat Alavi's Twitter page? I think he's saying the military (presumably in the big vehicles?) is joining the protesters, but I'm not sure.

Clarice:

Didn't Elliott Abrams start out as a neverTrumper? If so, his conversion is pretty remarkable just for starters. As for Abrams and John Bolton as the face of regime change policy... Just imagine how different things would be if Obama were still Prez, It would be the green revolution all over again. I am so glad we have a President who publicly supports the good guys -- and who is willing to get up in the bad guy's face, like Trump has just done with Cuba, in case it wasn't clear.

[henry]

How do you say “turtle soup” in illegale?

[Extraneus]

Lefty 0.1%-ers put their money where their mouth is. See Soros, Steyer, Bloomberg, Omidyer and many more.

[Beasts of England]

It's turtles all the way down.

[Narciso79]

Yes they are talking about the collectivos which are actually police death squads

Yes elliot was but he keeps his eye on ths ball, he understands the fight against Marxism can only really be achieved through a like minded adminiatration

[Porchlight]

Banners @bannersquest

13m13 minutes ago

Replying to @MaeveReston @BetoORourke

Remember when we had the financial crisis and McCain shut his campaign down to fly back to DC to address it and a few days later went back out.

Everyone was like "no way this guy can be president " just curious at what level this register at?

I mean what if his goldfish dies?

[johns]

The dementia that is Trump hate is on full display as Venezuela burns. the White House tweets a video of Maduro's armored vehicles running over the people, and the thread is peppered with idiots who can only scream about Trump/Russia and calling for the overthrow of the "Trump regime" while ignoring the plight of Venezuela

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1123311544446726145

[henry]

Video of a guy that made his own Spider-Man wrist web shooters.

https://twitter.com/michaelgalanin/status/1123346841221906433?s=21

[Beasts of England]

We could have a verdict in the Noor trial this afternoon. PowerLine speculates that the quick return means acquittal.

[henry]

Shooter at UNC Charlotte. Suspect in custody, 3 shot.

https://myfox8.com/2019/04/30/3-shot-on-campus-of-university-of-north-carolina-at-charlotte/amp/

[James D.]

He will, as I said, have to go after these people or they will destroy his family after he leaves the White House. This is what Rush said today.

And he’s right.

I want to see Chelsea in prison. I’m sure they could get her on tax or charity fraud charges from her time at the CF, if nothing else.

And I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before Sasha and Malia commit some felonies, if they haven’t already.

Destroy them. Destroy them all. No mercy, no quarter, no rules. Salt the earth.

[JM Hanes]

Thanks, Narciso.

Over at BNONews twitter, which someone (perhaps you?) linked earlier, I thought this was interesting:

BREAKING: Leading Venezuelan opposition activist Leopoldo López, who was freed earlier today, entered Chile's diplomatic residence in Caracas

Ditto for this:

BREAKING: Maduro had a plane on the tarmac and was ready to leave for Havana, but Russia convinced him to stay, U.S. Secretary of State Pompeo claims.

I guess there aren't enough Russian citizens to protect, so they need Maduro to give them cover.

[Captain Hate]

Levin has been screaming for about a week of Nadler wanting to subpoena personal financial records, stating this is the face of unbridled totalitarianism.

[johns]

the insanity of trying to seize the private records of Trump's grandchildren will be a really good addition to the legal effort to defeat this.

[Jane]

If any court rules in Nadler's favor, the WH will summon all the records of every member of Congress, their kids and grandkids, because as they say, they are "co-equal" branches of government.

Get GITMO ready.

[MissMarple2]

Tina Terry
‏Verified account @TinaTerryWSOC9

Our reporter @ElsaWSOC9 has heard reports of students hiding under tables in the library. @unccharlotte says lock-down still in place. @wsoctv is told one person is in custody & 3 - reportedly shot on campus.

[lyle]

La sopa de tortuga.

[Extraneus]

That would be a fun threat, wouldn't it?

"I don't think it will be, but if this subpoena is upheld in court I will order the DoJ to subpoena the tax returns and financial data of all members of Congress and their families."

[henry]

Jane, just publicizing their “legal” insider trading would be the end of the entire Congress.

[Extraneus]

Alavi dropped the ball. He had up-to-the-minute video all day, and now goes dark. Where else is the VZ real-time updates?

[Beasts of England]

Publish the Congressional sexual impropriety settlements.

[Extraneus]

Schiff Hires Ex-Chief of FBI Financial Crimes Section as House Intel Committee Ramps Up Investigations Into Trump’s Finances

[Beasts of England]

On the bright side, Nadler's disgraceful actions reveal weakness.

[Extraneus]

The Daily Beast and CNN reported that Schiff doesn’t feel Mueller’s probe was robust enough so he hired Patrick Fallon to help enforce his committee’s subpoenas.

The courts will have to slap this down. What do Trump's family finances have to do with the mission of the House Intelligence Committee?

[Beasts of England]

On the bright side, Schiff's disgraceful actions reveal weakness.

[Extraneus]

Former Assistant Director of the FBI’s CI Division Frank Figliuzzi said Schiff’s hiring of Patrick Fallon is a big deal.

“The fact that the Committee has hired someone at the former senior executive service level from within the FBI’s Financial Crimes Section is significant, and to me denotes an effort to apply significant resources to examining and analyzing financial findings,” Figliuzzi told the Daily Beast. “By the time you got to the head of the Financial Crimes section, you would have substantial white collar crime and global financial crime experience, both at the street level and the supervisory level. And his role at headquarters would have had him overseeing the bulk of all financial crime cases in the FBI.”

[Beasts of England]

Noor convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter!!

[James D.]

Publish the Congressional sexual impropriety settlements.

Yes! Do it!

[MissMarple2]

Extrameis.

Why is he the EX Chief of FBI Financial Crimes Section? Did he quit and go to work for Schiff to claim political persecution if he's indicted? Is he avoiding having to answer questions from Horowitz since he is no longer an employee?

[MissMarple2]

Extraneus. I meant.

Time to turn the light on in here.

[Beasts of England]

'...stating this is the face of unbridled totalitarianism.'

Yet there are still people on the right who believe this country could have survived four to eight years of Hillary.

[Captain Hate]

Noor convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter!!

This is why I'm not a betting person. Well done Minneapolis.

[peter]

Wow! Noor convicted of third degree murder and second degree manslaughter. Shocked!

[James D.]

Noor convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter!!

Excellent news.

It’s a good small first step. Next ought to be the firing and stripping of pensions from everyone up the line, everyone who supervised Noor, trained him, signed off on him going out in the streets, selected him in the first place. And that is a bare minimum of accountability.

[joan]

Beasts: 6:42 and 6:43:

Whistling in the dark? :)

[henry]

@MollyBeck

BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court restores 82 Gov. Scott Walker appointments confirmed during legislative session being challenged in court -- remember those? No? Here's a refresher:

[MissMarple2]

Kurt Schlichter
‏Verified account @KurtSchlichter
14s14 seconds ago

The next time some Democrat who has been playing footsie with socialists tells you you need to give up your guns, whisper "Venezuela."
And then buy more.

[henry]

Note, this comes after Evers appointed a bunch of Dem donors yesterday.

Some background here:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/30/lame-duck-lawsuits-15-appointees-caught-middle-partisan-war/3312314002/

This should be entertaining.

[Captain Hate]

That sounds like a BFD, henry.

[henry]

Indeed CH. now the Legislature needs to break Evers of his commie instincts and budget. (Which will be tough, because he is only a puppet).

[henry]

Only 4-3. http://m.startribune.com/wisconsin-supreme-court-restores-82-walker-appointees/509290952/

[Beasts of England]

Those statements are true, jjm, but whether they ultimately matter or not is to be determined. :)

[henry]

This is interesting legal thinking:

Fun listing website not liable for Azana Spa shooting.

But Chief Justice Pat Roggensack, writing for the majority, said Tuesday that if a website's features can be used lawfully the act immunizes the operators from liability when third parties use the sites unlawfully.

https://www.wisn.com/amp/article/wisconsin-supreme-court-gun-site-not-liable-in-mass-shooting-at-spa/26841274

This is the same law that various social media sites hide behind (and violate if the control content).

[henry]

Gun website. Auto cucumber strikes again

[MissMarple2]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1123245155035881472.html

This is an excellent thread on how Trump is fighting the Uniparty on the issues, and explains why all they have left is personal attacks and fake accusations.

[henry]

@jackposebeic

BREAKING: House Republicans plan to submit criminal referrals for several Fusion GPS associates to the Department of Justice for lying to Congress

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/DawsonSField/status/1123361386883690497

A really good thread on the Trump Administration's efforts to combat Medicare prescription fraud.

[MissMarple2]

Today, it was my great honor to welcome and host the 2018 @NASCAR Cup Series Champion, @JoeyLogano and @Team_Penske to the @WhiteHouse! pic.twitter.com/ExCangG6Kc

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 30, 2019

Video at link.

[Another Bob]

“For the record, I’m glad I’m not welcome on your Ledge. It doesn’t really sound like the kind of America I swore an oath to defend.”

Posted by: Tom R | April 30, 2019 at 05:38 PM

Tom, screw you. That’s the single most offensive thing you’ve said here.

You seem rather fond (too fond?) of referring to your service. That oath you wave around so often didn’t entitle you to pick and choose “the America” you “defended”.

[anonamom]

Two dead, five injured, two of them w life threatening injuries.
Shooter at UNCC library.
Shooter "not recognized" by sutdents per reports.
Male. Race not specified.

[Another Bob]

Re. Noor, how does he get two homicide convictions out of one shooting?

And there will be appeals...

[D]

TC
Agree wrt to Captain as king of the one liners for 2019!
Your initial date of July 2020 now looks very prophetic as we patiently wait for indictments, arrests, trials and ultimately sentencing of all the traitors.
Horowitz report can’t come soon enough.
Someone needs to shed some light on what Huber is doing if anything.

Meadows said last night, now it is more like weeks until disclosure instead of months.

[Captain Hate]

Actually, the key facts about C'ville are about permits, police management of crowds, AND the make-up of the permitted protesters. If the civil rights of the permitted protesters had been respected, if the police had done their duty to the people and the law, if the police chief mayor and governor had done their jobs (and perhaps had not committed civil rights violations), then there would have been no "C'ville" (unless the unrelated young stupid kook had run into somebody).

The over-arching "key fact" about it all is that there is no longer anything resembling are a real press in the country - or all of this would have been clear, and the mixed nature of the crowd, and the culpability of the police/mayor and (primarily) the troublemakers on the Antifa side, would be widely known.

Oh and AG Barr, have a staffer look in the back of the files for a folder labeled "Charlottesville Events Civil Rights Investigation". If DOJ had done its job, as Sessions promised that very day, then most of the facts would have been clarified even without a press doing its job.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2019 07:32 PM (QDnY+)

[Beasts of England]

I'm sitting out back enjoying a deftly-shaken Tito's martini and watching four pair of Canada geese and their goslings. The little ones have shed their yellow plume and are now a fuzzy grey. They number a few less than the other day, but bass are in the circle of life, too. ;)

[Extraneus]

Turtles, too, I'd bet.

[D]

Mueller now objects to the summary of Russia probe done by Barr.
DiGenova trashing the letter Mueller had Weissman write .
He asks on Lou Dobbs”What is Mueller’s problem.
Perfect proof for TomR that Mueller is s jerk of the first order.
DiGenova says Mueller has stayed too long at the fair.
TomR:
I like Harp beer if you still want to bet.

[henry]

So Beto’s turtle ate the gosling?

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1123369404408815616

A thread on how universities have made themselves guilds and affect wealth 30 years after the student graduates.

[Extraneus]

I'm watching over a dozen swallows skimming over the water at amazing speed, eating bugs.

(No, not me.)

[boris]

Well to be fair the ledge reminds me of the Restaurant at the End of Time, the Universe, and Everything.

Also a bit like the kids who no longer believe in Santa Clause making fun of the ones who still do.

The ledge does not bother me but the hostility level sometimes does.

[Beasts of England]

It's turtles eating goslings all the way down. :)

[Another Bob]

Has Ilhan Omar been heard from re. Noor?

[Beasts of England]

'In some areas, adult snapping turtles can be incidentally detrimental to breeding waterfowl, as they will occasionally take ducklings and goslings...'

Not that I didn't trust you, Extraneus. :)

[Extraneus]

In other areas, it's not incidental. :-)