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April 23, 2019


Captain Hate

Jane probably had her WiFi hacked and whoever did it snagged unencrypted packet data to look legit.

Tom R

Clarice @ 9:17

You are correct that I don’t care if someone disagrees with me on Spygate issues. It’s the greatest political scandal in US history so there are bound to be disagreements even among people with similar ideological beliefs and values. I do my best to be respectful to everyone here. I know if I were to disagree with Jane and call her confused I would get instantly bombarded by a lot of people for daring to criticize her so I refrain from punching back to all the slights directed my way. It continues thread after thread because Spygate is usually the #1 topic of the day, especially when there is new info to discuss.

Tom R

CH @ 9:21

You are correct. I have Iggy’s post bookmarked in case I ever need to reference it in the future.


I don't care who started it or who prolonged it. Pls just stop!! Move on to another topic. Surely we will find out in the coming months more information on which to judge this. It's fucking boring to come here and see this rehashed over and over and over again.


Happy Anzac Day!

Anzac Day, April 25th, is Australia's Remembrance Day. The name comes from ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) which was formed to fight in World War I, most famously at Gallipoli.

Dawn memorial services are held all over Australia. The following verse (known as The Ode), which is the fourth stanza of Laurence Binyon's poem "For the Fallen," is recited:

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

(Response: We will remember them.)

This ode is also used in the UK on Remembrance Day. I'm sure its Australian significance was meaningful to Peter Jackson when he chose They Shall Not Grow Old for the title of his superb World War I documentary.

I'm baking Anzac biscuits (butter-oatmeal-coconut) to take to work. They keep and ship well and the story goes that they were baked to ship to soldiers overseas.

jim nj


Yes, I would have been a big-time honcho.
Just like Y2K, if you didn't adapt, you lost. I was good at what I did, the only problem my firm had with Y2K was that Zack's estimates, delivered by various systems was a year behind. That was fixed in in one day.

Can't adequately describe how many back-up plans we had. Didn't need them.

Tom R

Ext @ 8:55

I don’t see how you can accuse me of resorting to a straw man. I didn’t twist or misrepresent Barr’s comments and then criticize him for something he never said. All I did was apply the same Christian moral code to him that I apply to myself. Would anyone here who identifies as a Christian knowingly establish a close friendship with someone you knew was corrupt?

I knew when I posted Barr’s statement about Mueller it would be provocative. All I did was say I believed he was telling the truth about Mueller. I don’t think there are any posters here whose ego is so huge that they believe they know more about Mueller’s true character then Barr does. I think Barr’s statement on Mueller likely created a dilemma in some people’s mind. What if Barr was telling the truth? That would mean their perception of Mueller, based on an incomplete knowledge of all the facts, might not be correct.

jim nj


Ditto. Useless speculation.

Beasts of England

I'm sorry I engaged him last night. It sure as heck won't happen again.


Donald J. Trump

I will be interviewed by @seanhannity tonight at 9:00 PM on @FoxNews. Enjoy!


I'm dusting off my pistolas.


Game on! First a-mom uses the f-word, now Clarice!

I agree, of course. I've basically stopped arguing the issue, just post what I find interesting that might be related, and actually new. At first I had to grit my teeth not to take the bait, but now it's easy.

Tom R

Clarice @ 10:26

I started lurking here at JOM during the Plamegate days. I found this blog to be the most informative on all matters related to Plamegate. Plamegate was the major topic of discussion for a LONG time here. Aside from being significantly much larger in scope as well as importance to the future of the country, how is discussing Spygate any different than discussing Plamegate, especially now when it appears Trump is going on the offensive and there is a lot of news to discuss?

jim nj

When you use a PC you become very wary about what to click on. I think that drives hackers to Apple users who think they are lesser targets.


The strawman was your "evil and corrupt" characterization. Why resort to that? Maybe he sees himself as a Christian avenger for truth, justice and the American way.

No need to impugn Ahab's motives in order to understand his actions.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Did anybody ever explain Iggy's absence?--

I am taking a break because I got sick of the unending personal insults and arguments over personalities here instead of discussions of ideas and insults to creeps trying to destroy our country out there.
I find GUS, TomR and TK perfectly fine when they're separated. I find them disruptive, even when hushed, together.
I particularly dislike GUS's constant, over the top vituperation toward TomR. But what really bugs me is it apparently doesn't bug anyone else.
Since this place was taking too much time anyway I'm much better off only taking a look on weekends.
The only reason I'm here now is I'm fasting and had a bit of time to kill that is ordinarily consumed by getting outside some bacon and eggs.


Smooches, Iggy. People are most likely not responding because they don't wish to prolong this nonsense.




Incidentally, that's a great interview of N-Pod that narc linked on the last page. I'll repeat it here:


His evolution of thinking on Trump probably echoes with a lot of us here who weren't on board at first. Also his evolution on immigration. And such a sharp and open mind at 88. How many people do you know have changed their views on much after the age of 60?

Just a brief excerpt:

CRB: And President Trump offers a path up from ignorance and anti-Americanism?

NP: The only way I know out of this is to fight it intellectually, which sounds weak. But the fact that Trump was elected is a kind of miracle. I now believe he’s an unworthy vessel chosen by God to save us from the evil on the Left. And he’s not the first unworthy vessel chosen by God. There was King David who was very bad—I mean he had a guy murdered so he could sleep with his wife, among other things. And then there was King Solomon who was considered virtuous enough—more than his father—to build the temple, and then desecrated it with pagan altars; but he was nevertheless considered a great ancestor. So there are precedents for these unworthy vessels, and Trump, with all his vices, has the necessary virtues and strength to fight the fight that needs to be fought. And if he doesn’t win in 2020, I would despair of the future. I have 13 grandchildren and 12 great grandchildren, and they are hostages to fortune. So I don’t have the luxury of not caring what’s going to happen after I’m gone.

CRB: What are his virtues, if you had to enumerate them?

NP: His virtues are the virtues of the street kids of Brooklyn. You don’t back away from a fight and you fight to win. That’s one of the things that the Americans who love him, love him for—that he’s willing to fight, not willing but eager to fight. And that’s the main virtue and all the rest stem from, as Klingenstein says, his love of America. I mean, Trump loves America. He thinks it’s great or could be made great again.

He goes on to predict that Mooch will run. I don't think so, but what do I know.

Part of me wishes they'd asked what he thought of his idiot son, but maybe that's too awkward.


Crap. I will repost on the new thread.

Old Lurker

Thanks Iggy.

Don't be a stranger.

Another Bob

“asked to assume more responsibilities without an increase in authority, title or pay. I wouldn't take that.”

So far, I’m not. Though I don’t know what sort of a sh!t list I’m on because of it.

“Maybe they have responsibilities that make it a hard choice.”

Yep. Mostly a worrywart wife. If I were single my attitudes would be markedly different.


ANY TIME somebody contacts YOU--it's a SCAM.


Regarding Medicare: I have Florida Blue Medicare Advantage PPO that covered 99% of my knee replacement at HSS. Over $63K.

Free market cost of that procedure (I know JiB had a lengthier stay than normal) at the Oklahoma Surgery Center that does all its stuff without third parties is less than 15 K, last time I checked.


Government involvement is the reason our medical costs are insane.


I particularly dislike GUS's constant, over the top vituperation toward TomR. But what really bugs me is it apparently doesn't bug anyone else.

It bugs me too, Iggy. I'm here a lot less these days for the same reasons you've cited.

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