Just Awful In Paris

Notre Dame burns.

On the life/lemonade spectrum, no one was hurt and this will give France, and much of the world, an opportunity to unite for a worthy cause. I don't know how much expertise the US can contribute but we will surely pitch in.

Furthermore:

A French firefighter official told reporters the main structure of the cathedral has been saved and the two iconic main towers are intact and have been saved as well.

Here's hoping this was just a dreadful construction accident and not terrorist-inspired. There does seem to be a slight possibility that some wave of attacks on Catholic churches in France has been underway, although evidence free speculation is inappropriate.

Comments

[MissMarple2]

http://www.thedoublenegative.co.uk/2017/10/anxiety-as-captured-in-concrete-a-new-cathedral-1960-reviewed/

I certainly hope the old Notre Dame can be restored. I cannot imagine the French would want to see one of these monstrosities.

[jim nj]

This article seems to touch on some of what I've been finding in Libya.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-security/libya-conflict-stirs-divisions-in-gulf-and-europe-idUSKCN1RS1BT

Europe isn't united. The Gulf nations aren't united.

Whose forces are coming to the aid of Tripoli? Jihadis?

[MissMarple2]

CovfefeGlo, MDiv.
☕️
‏ @glo4itnow
15h15 hours ago

#prayersforlanden
Little Landon is in stable condition. They have concluded NO spinal cord injury or brain damage.
#keeppraying!

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Hopeful news about the little boy who was thrown off the 3rd floor balcony at Mall of America.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-16/pete-buttigieg-s-progressive-claim-on-christianity

Headline: What would Jesus do? Pete Buttigieg has no idea.

[MissMarple2]

WTHR.com
‏Verified account @WTHRcom
2h2 hours ago

Nearly $1 billion has already poured in from ordinary worshippers and high-powered magnates around the world to restore the fire-ravaged Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.

[MissMarple2]

Rudy Giuliani
‏Verified account @RudyGiuliani
6h6 hours ago

As we await the report which will conclude no charges of collusion or obstruction its important this never happens again.
A serious investigation will reveal a conspiracy to obstruct justice, an election and the will of our people. We cannot rest until there is JUSTICE.

[jim nj]

MM,

I'm thinking of engineered wood or concrete to replace the ND over-structure.

I'm addicted to "This Old House" and they use a lot of engineered wood to accomplish things you couldn't do years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_wood

They can create wood beams with laminates that are as strong as steel.

[James D.]

I wonder, in general, do they give any financial counseling to these students and their co-signer parents? Here's the cost of the degree, average starting salary for graduates in that field, chances of landing a job in that field - and then show the resulting cost/benefit analysis?

Of course not! If they did that, and did it honestly and clearly, The whole system would collapse and all those Grievance Studies programs would have to shut down, and all the Diversity Compliance bureaucrats would have to be fired. And obviously we can’t have that.

[MissMarple2]

jim nj,

How interesting. I had never thought about using engineered wood (or laminates, as they are often called).

I am used to thinking of them as inferior in quality because I worked in high-end furniture sales for a number of years and one of the key selling points was that the pieces were "real wood" with no laminates. (Snobbery exists in furniture design, too.)

[MissMarple2]

Giulio Occhionero
‏ @g_occhionero
Apr 15

If Washington Times is finally taking the bull by the horns, opening the discussion on Mifsud, mentioning the "spy school" in Rome and asking how @GeorgePapa19's coversation made its way up to the @FBI, then folks it really means the clock is ticking now.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/14/hillary-clinton-allies-fed-fbi-donald-trump-russia/

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This is another story I missed during the coverage of the Notre Dame fire.

[Captain Hate]

Put colleges on the hook for the loans. End of problem.

[MissMarple2]

The Spectator Index
‏ @spectatorindex
2h2 hours ago

BREAKING: Joko Widodo set to win Indonesia's presidential election, according to survey data.

[MissMarple2]

Ivanka Trump
‏Verified account @IvankaTrump
4h4 hours ago

Today, @USAID & I will visit a cocoa farm in Adzope!
▪️Women in Cote d’Ivoire own 25% of cocoa farms + form 68% of the cocoa labor force
▪️Women earn only 21% of income generated from cocoa production
▪️Women own less than 15% of continent’s land
We’re fighting for change. #WGDP

[MissMarple2]

The Hill
‏Verified account @thehill
2h2 hours ago

Mayor Pete Buttigieg: "I think I've gone from being viewed as adorable six weeks ago to now plausible."

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I haven't made it to adorable yet. By the way, try to imagine President Trump saying this and the reaction we would see from the press.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

Of course it would solve the problem, but the dems and press would stir up panic talking about how there will be a shortage of doctors and teachers and such, how the universities would go bankrupt, how the GOP hates education, how it hurts minorities, blah, blah, blah.

[MissMarple2]

Nimboni
❤️
🌐
‏ @la_nimboni
1m1 minute ago

🌐❤️Nimboni ❤️

🌐 Retweeted Phys.org

This biological computer isn’t only extremely small, but in theory can be scaled up to any.. size. "Imagine a microtissue w/ billions of cells, each equipped w/ its own dual-core processor. Such 'computational organs' could theoretically attain [unparalleled] computing power[.]🤭

https://phys.org/news/2019-04-biosynthetic-dual-core-cell.html

[MissMarple2]

Laura Litvan
‏Verified account @LauraLitvan

Paris (AP) -- Notre Dame's rector: Paris cathedral will be closed for five to six years.
4:24 AM - 17 Apr 2019

Heinz Rudolf
‏ @HeinzRudolf15
Replying to @LauraLitvan

Macron quotes: within 5 years, before the Olympics, even more beautyfull as it was!
4:27 AM - 17 Apr 2019

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In this case, I hope Macron is right.

[MissMarple2]

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/one-third-biologists-now-question-darwinism/

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
6m6 minutes ago

Wow! FBI made 11 payments to Fake Dossier’s discredited author, Trump hater Christopher Steele. @OANN @JudicialWatch The Witch Hunt has been a total fraud on your President and the American people! It was brought to you by Dirty Cops, Crooked Hillary and the DNC.

[MissMarple2]

Rosie memos
‏ @almostjingo
2h2 hours ago

Who wore it better?

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As I said to ChiTown, who called it to my attention, "Fashion icon, you know."

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

Democrats in Congress must return from their Vacations and change the Immigration Laws, or the Border, despite the great job being done by Border Patrol, will only get worse. Big sections of Wall now being built!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/american-flag-logo-to-stay-on-police-cars-in-laguna-beach-california/509-5b2a92e3-9f15-4fd2-aad0-b901429df2bd

Hundreds of people showed up at the city council meeting to support the flag design. Maybe there is hope for parts of California.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-dropped-requests-for-necessary-classified-info-during-clinton-probe-and-gop-asks-why

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/news-corp-ceo-condemns-professional-liberals-in-media-slams-tech-giants

[James D.]

the dems and press would stir up panic talking about how there will be a shortage of doctors and teachers and such, how the universities would go bankrupt, how the GOP hates education, how it hurts minorities, blah, blah, blah.

Thanks, GOPe, for your decades of unconditional surrender to the Dems on almost every national issue, leaving us in a position where it’s virtually impossible to even raise questions about our horribly warped and damaging higher ed system.

[MissMarple2]

SUPERTRUMP 2020
🇺🇸
‏ @EarthsGuyNow
16m16 minutes ago

Last year I typed my name into Google and a company listed my name, DOB address's for last 30 year's, SSN, phone #, and all family.
I called them and mailed them a certified letter threatening legal action and they removed me from their list.

[Old Lurker]

Cap'n: "Put colleges on the hook for the loans. End of problem."

ding ding ding

[MissMarple2]

https://apnews.com/3734a9a65db64cfc9337b57dedb9b208

Mining project on federal lands hires former Interior head

Zeinke going to work for a gold-mining company. He says it's not lobbying but I think it's sort of weasely and he should find something else to do.

[henry]

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
2m

Denver-area schools will be closed as authorities search for a woman who they say flew to the city and bought a gun after becoming "infatuated" with the Columbine shooting

[Old Lurker]

MM "...but the dems and press would stir up panic talking about how there will be a shortage of..."

As will the GOPe and the other wings of the Deep State Uniparty.

That is the defensive mechanism (like a child who cries at the slightest parental correction) they use to avoid accountability and to protect their jobs and their money.

Simple as that.

And we will fix nothing until we break out of that method of governance. And the status quo will break us because "what cannot continue, won't".

Also simple as that.

[Old Lurker]

Great minds, James

[MissMarple2]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-columbine-principal-idUSKCN1RT102?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5cb711e00f1cfa0001e69d0a&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Headline: Columbine principal, haunted by 20-year-old massacre, still recites victims' names

[MissMarple2]

Stu Cvrk
‏ @STUinSD
18h18 hours ago

Addendum: A map of vandalized French churches over the past year (H/T Ace of Spades)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4S174wXsAY0wln.png

[Captain Hate]

Miss Marple's 7:38 link is a good summary of the limitations of science to explain everything in the complexities of life and things in the universe. Not everything is reduceable to an if A then B formulation, particularly when dealing with really large numbers, and that journalists, some of the dumbest people on the planet, assign such omnipotence to very fallible people if not outright frauds is laughably misleading. Darwin built a hypothesis on extensive observations which has served as a good step to understanding how life as we know it came to pass. It will never explain everything.

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/STUinSD/status/1118218682331693056

Short 5-tweet thread on the attacks on churches in France. WAY more extensive than our press has covered.

[Buckeye]

"I think I've gone from being viewed as adorable six weeks ago to now plausible."

Reinforcing his "orientation".

No regular guy would ever talk about being adorable.

Reinforcing his ability to play the victim card.

I don't have a problem with his orientation. I have a huge problem with the emotional manipulation he is practicing, and his sense of entitlement to do so.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=I_To-cV94Bo

This is a 5-minute time lapse map of Europe and the Middle East comparing the battles of the Medieval Islamic jihade and the Crusades.

This should be bookmarked to show anyone who starts the "But what about the Crusades?" line.

[Buckeye]

Denver-area schools will be closed as authorities search for a woman who they say flew to the city and bought a gun after becoming "infatuated" with the Columbine shooting

Wrong response.

Put police at the school doors with a copy of her picture.

Orders to shoot on sight.

It is a cure for that kind of "infatuation", particularly if the cameras are rolling.

[Jane]

TLG,

HOW did you break it? Shaking hands for your hubby.

Bubarooni, he sounds like great kid who will be very successful. Think of debt as a huge motivation - and then the fun begins. Never in my life have I resented people who had more than I have, or didn’t have to work as hard. There is nothing wrong about working hard and it leads to success.

Also it costs me a third if what it costs in MA to live in FL. Granted in MA I had a 3000 sq foot condo and down here I live in a1500 sq foot manufactured home. And nothing about that bothers me - just don’t tell my mother. I certainly can live on my retirement.

It is always what you make of it! And it sounds like he’ll make it great. Tell him I said that. And to have no regrets!

[Beasts of England]

I'll take deplorable over adorable every time. As will the swing voters across the country.

[Threadkiller]

I hope they give the Somali cops the right picture, Buckeye.

[Gentlejim]

I haven't made it to adorable yet.

Don’t sell yourself short, MM. You’re plenty adorable. :)

Forensic evidence handling refresher class today. Woo hoo.

[Gentlejim]

I like buckeye’s plan in CO.

Nice shot, TK. How you doing?

[Captain Hate]

This should be bookmarked to show anyone who starts the "But what about the Crusades?" line.

I can only guess at the cartoonish way the indoctrination extended day care centers address the Crusades but the actual history of them is fascinating.

[Threadkiller]

Not too bad, Gentlejim. Thanks for asking. And you?

[JohnH]

MM, I did see your thanks and you are most welcome. The internet is truly a marketplace of information. I would have responded sooner but I don’t spend a lot of time at JOM in real time.

[rse]

This is very good. https://www.city-journal.org/notre-dame-cathedral-fire

No one does a good job on the student debt and I am endlessly surprised at how many UMC, fine houses and vacations, let their kids go to expensive private colleges and then let kids take on debt to do it.

One of the diva's friends was essentially proselytizing taking on student debt as "no big deal" as long as you have a business degree. One of the other parents in that circle of friends complained to me that her daughter was buying into that same attitude.

When the college called freshman year trying to get a donation, I told them that they say they are fundraising to increase financial aid. They increase tuition annually to increase financial aid. They make a big deal abot all the first gen college students and illegal aliens not paying tuition to add to 'diversity'. We already feel like we were asked to pay a gross amount that included someone else's kid we don't know all because we had home equity.

It's not just the absurd gross amount each year. It's being told to take out a second mortgage or parent plus loan to do that. It's crazy.

[Gentlejim]

I’m fantastic, thanks.

[Threadkiller]

That is great. Day shift because of training?

[Threadkiller]

Working on an RV today.

I'll check in later. Have a good day.

[JohnH]

Re: student loans I agree that colleges need to have skin in the game and the gov needs to be removed. The problem has been exacerbated by allowing students to include living expenses in their loans. This easily doubles the debt burden for many students.

Take a walk through downtown Madison and count the number of “Taj Mahal” student housing that have been erected. They get $1,000/mo easily for a studio, $800/mo for 1/3 interest in a multi bedroom unit.

A degree has some defined ROI, living expenses not so much.

[Melinda]

To follow up:

https://www.janes.com/article/85430/lockheed-martin-receives-f-35-avionics-upgrade-contract

[Beasts of England]

An acquaintance of mine bought a horse with some of her student loan proceeds. I'll ask her about that ROI next time I see her, JohnH!! :)

[Buckeye]

My kids know they were fortunate, but we did teach them about managing money early on.

Jr. got his undergrad paid for.

Buckeyette had a scholarship that paid about half the tuition, and I had the cash flow to pay the rest.

Jr. took on debt while in med school, but had income associated with a research fellowship he had simultaneously, so his debt was less than typical.

He is about as frugal as they come, so has managed to retire the med school debt in a couple of years.

Easier in his case because of his relatively high income.

I am thankful they don't have the debt burden hanging around their shoulders.

[James D.]

There are SO many things wrong with the way we do higher ed today.

Really, the entire system and the warped values surrounding it need to be torn down to the foundations and rebuilt in a sane way.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Speaking of college,a young guy originally from Massachusetts just re-grouted the shower and kitchen floor. He came to Florida when he was 17. He's got a great business and no college debt. He's a hard worker and an entrepreneur. He has a French Canadian last name,hubby said,you must be from up north and with that name,you're a hard worker.
Speaking of New England,Biden is going to strike with the Stop and Shop workers tomorrow. Because there won't be any other news. *eyeroll*

[henry]

also known as Continuous Capability Development and Delivery (C2D2)

it took 25 years to get the hardware flying and deployed. To maintain superiority they need to rev avionics as quickly as Apps get revved on your smart phone. Assume the bad guys are stealing your code (as we know the Chinese are), how do you beat them anyway? Upgrade faster than they can decompile and analyze. Add new toys (lasers?) as plug ins. Never stop innovating.

The study I worked on for the AF/CALS people at the start of the JSF program suggested they take that engineering approach, we are about to see it pay off.

[Marlene]

The daughter just sent me a beautiful picture of the White House. She had a breakfast meeting at the White House mess. I'm not bragging. :)

[James D.]

I'm almost surprised that one of these big class-action litigation firms hasn't tried to gin up a big lawsuit against the loan servicing companies and the schools themselves.

Tens of millions of potential members of the class, incredibly deep pocketed defendants, and an argument that could well sway a jury ("Brain research proves that reasoning skills are still maturing well into the 20's, and these huge lenders pressured vulnerable, immature, unprepared teens to sign on to hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt when we know they're not even mature enough to choose to drink a can of beer!")

[Beasts of England]

Of course student debt can be bad, but let's not forget those poor parents who had to borrow hundreds of thousands to bribe their kid's way into Harvard...

[sbwaters]

We were fortunate to receive part of the estate of my aunt that allowed us to pay down our kids’ student loans. Would have liked to have saved it to care for for us in our retirement. Still glad to have paid it off.

Perhaps the children will help when our time comes.

[Narciso79]

Ponnuru is Indian for frum, the question is about the purpose of govt the God and mammon test.

Yes jimnj its al queda sponsored by Qatar and Turkey, France has been stealthily trying to fix the crockery Sarkozy broke eight years ago. The Italians are also giving hafter a wide berth

[jimmyk]

Put colleges on the hook for the loans. End of problem.

Only if you also get the government out of the business. In fact, maybe that has to come first. Though even our private banks have practically become agents of the state, so that's a problem too.

[Narciso79]

It's harder to gauge that, al Serraj govt is one with little support but they pretend he is, hafters like general sharon a bulldozer but that's what required. His predecessor general younis was executed on orders from bel hadj

[Narciso79]

Abu Salem is where the great prison for Islamist like Sednaya in Syria, the revolt there eight years ago was the pretext for the civil wars starting

[JohnH]

Sounds like they are going to have a contest to redesign the spire at Norte Dame Cathedral. Brought to mind the situation where the First Parish Unitarian Church on Mass. Ave in Arlington caught fire(during renovations) and was destroyed in March 1975. I was coming home from school and got off the bus across from the church to watch the fire.

The church burning:
https://images.app.goo.gl/D3wTuxHsgdjKcWp27

Quite the controversy as designs were proposed. Many upset people.
The replacement church:
https://images.app.goo.gl/9G2BHd8DBVGoKYzy9

[Narciso79]

This is the blinkered travel writer that Carlos slims gives the time of day:

https://babalublog.com/2019/04/16/new-york-times-revitalizes-its-fervor-for-cuba-after-atypical-delay-in-its-fawning-and-drooling-over-castro-dictatorship/

[Gentlejim]

TK, I’m on days due to promotion. The class is tied to promotion also since I’m now the department’s evidence god. :)

[Narciso79]

As I suspected the peace envoy, is a fmr Lebanese minister of culture, affiliated with Robert Malley's international crisis group.

[Narciso79]

I remember writing about Vargas llosas campaign against him in 90:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-peru-corruption/peru-ex-president-garcia-shoots-himself-as-police-try-to-arrest-him-idUSKCN1RT1K4

[Narciso79]

So a Syrian and Iranian puppet tells general hafter he has to stand down, similarly with the mouth piece for the algerian generals brahimi telling the Iraqis and then the Syrian play nice.

[Narciso79]

The same players are involved in the peninsula
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/16/trump-veto-yemen-war/

[Beasts of England]

I've read a few recent articles about the dem power brokers trying to block the rise of Bernie. Anyone think - with only nine weeks until their first debates - a big name will soon jump in the race? (I assume that Biden is unofficially in)

[Melinda]

Superdelegates still own the table, so they're really just looking for cover for what they're going to do anyway.

[Narciso79]

With so many players hunger game rules, probably but the solon has a glass jaw.

[Tom R]

An interesting GoT spoiler. Don’t read the link unless you are caught up on the series thru Season 8 Episode 1.

https://ruinmyweek.com/entertainment/heres-what-that-spiral-pattern-on-game-of-thrones-is-all-about/?utm_content=buffer910d2&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=tfln&utm_campaign=ooo

[Marlene]

Did Jack find the beagles?

[Beasts of England]

I thought they punted the superdelegates this year, Mel?

[James D.]

Anyone think - with only nine weeks until their first debates - a big name will soon jump in the race? (I assume that Biden is unofficially in)

I think, just as MM has theorized, that it will be Mooch.

But I don't think it will be soon. She'll bide her time until the winter and see how things shake out, and then jump in when (presumably) nobody's taken charge in the polls and everybody's damaged, and she'll look like the savior of the party.

[hoyden]

I'm celebrating 30 years clean&sober today. Who'd a thunk it? Not me back then. I wouldn't be here today without AA and supportive friends.

[Buckeye]

Perhaps the children will help when our time comes.

SBW

I tease Jr. that I want him to build a place with a garage apartment for his parents.

I'll wash his Ferrari and cut the grass for room and board:)

Reality is he would be more likely to become a 3rd world medical missionary than buy a Ferrari.

[Melinda]

Nope. Still being Stu, I mean Super!

[Narciso79]

Congrats hoyden

[clarice]

9th Circuit!https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/11/appeals-court-rules-trump-can-build-border-wall/?fbclid=IwAR2YZQAuSQ3I0XQKwdZOWoe4TndAjE1XzgSLtNgBlV9dze3voCbqYUraRYk

[JM Hanes]

jim nj:

Strategy Page has a pretty good Libya 'splainer. Sounds to me like the UN devised gov't is basically a failure, with no control over warring militias, while "strongman" Khalifa Haftar may well represent Libya's best hope for coherent governance at the moment.

[Tom R]

I think this may have already been posted but just in case it wasn’t:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pete-buttigiegs-father-was-a-marxist-professor-who-lauded-the-communist-manifesto

It seems odd to me that a Catholic university like Notre Dame would hire an openly avowed Marxist which is an ideology that by default promotes atheism.

Also, since it appears Buttplug has adopted his father’s ideology, is it safe to assume he is just claiming to be a Christian like Obama and other pro-Marxist Democrats have done just to improve his chances of getting elected?

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Jane- Ha, no I did it playing tennis with my 7 & 9 year old granddaughters. They were pretty hysterical when it happened.

[Narciso79]

Yes that's I was saying in not so many words but Icq qatar et al are the referees so you dont get a clear picture, even the New York review of books has a better bead than the times or the post

[Beasts of England]

It looks like they've kept the superdelegates but have limited their votes until the second round, i.e., a contested convention.

~ ~ ~

I tend to agree with Miss Marple, James D - bringing her in late would make available the savior narrative. Not sure how the BernieBros would take that news two cycles in a row... 🍿

[MissMarple2]

I absolutely cannot bear the thought of Mooch even in the campaign, but I think that is what they have planned.

[Buckeye]

Wonderful Hoyden!

[Texas Liberty Gal]

hoyden - Congrats on 30 years clean& sober. Thats an amazing accomplishment

[Beasts of England]

Very nice, hoyden - congratulations!!

[Narciso79]

He was a gramsci translator Tom r, Antonio along with the Frankfurt school were trying the slow route through culture.

[Buckeye]

is it safe to assume he is just claiming to be a Christian like Obama and other pro-Marxist Democrats have done just to improve his chances of getting elected?

Well TomR, he is a politician and his lips are moving.

[MissMarple2]

Mark Knoller
‏Verified account @markknoller
60m60 minutes ago

Pompeo says detente with the Cuban regime has failed, and "cozying up to Cuban dictators will always be a black mark" on the Administration record, so Administration will no longer suspend Title III of the Libertad Act allowing legal action against seized property in Cuba.

[James D.]

It seems odd to me that a Catholic university like Notre Dame would hire an openly avowed Marxist which is an ideology that by default promotes atheism.

Why is that odd? The Catholic Church elected an openly avowed Marxist as Pope, didn't they?

[Narciso79]

Well they have proven they are well adjusted folk, yikes.

[Jane]

Hoyden,

Boy you really rock! That
s fabulous!

[Tom R]

Narciso 10:44

I am fully aware of the history of the Frankfurt School. I first learned of it in the mid 80s in a PoliSci class from a professor who taught the history of Communism without trying to brainwash anyone on how great it was.

My point was focused on the oddity of a Christian university allowing someone who promoted an ideology whose tenets advocate the destruction of Christianity to teach there.