The NY Times celebrates Tax Appreciation Day with one of their dumber guest pieces ever.
Everyone’s Income Taxes Should Be Public
Disclosure of tax payments would make it easier to hold politicians accountable. It also would help to reduce fraud and economic inequality.
Say what? The NSA is hoovering up my cell phone metadata in an attempt to track terrorists and the Time freaks out, but publish everyone's tax returns? Great idea!
Social scientists would love this, and maybe we would move closer to Equal Pay For Equal Work if people knew each other's paychecks.
But as to just what he is proposing, it's hard to say. Early on, its about Trump:
Almost a century later, it’s time to revisit the merits of universal public disclosure. Democrats in Congress are fighting to obtain President Trump’s tax returns under a separate 1924 law, written in response to related concerns about public corruption. That issue could be resolved, at least in part, if Congress embraced the broader case for publishing everyone’s tax bill.
Now as then, disclosure could help to ensure that people pay a fair share of taxes.
A bit later, we are following the property tax model, which is a ridiculous analogy (sales and liens are publicly recorded, unlike my salary, and low-ball appraisals for a mayor's friends would stick out like a sore thumb, but still:
Calling for more disclosure may seem discordant at a time of growing concern about privacy. But income taxation is an act of government, not an aspect of private life. Property tax records provide a reasonable model. Local governments disclose the name of the property owner, the value of the property and the amount of taxes owed and paid. The same information should be available for income taxes — nothing more is necessary.
Well, with Medicare and soon enough, Medicare For All, my use of medical services is very much a matter of public interest. I don't foresee a groundswell to put that on the web.
But if the suggestion is to include a top-line income figure and a bottom-line tax liability, how will that help my colleagues gauge my salary relative to theirs? What if my also spouse works? What if I have investment income? Or deductions for medical care I'd rather not publicize?
If he is calling for detailed disclosure researchers will be grateful but no one will agree. If it is cursury summary data, it won't mean anything. Sounds like another well-thought through progressive proposal induced by Trump Derangement Syndrome. Should have been run on April 1.
NO DEAD HORSE LEFT UNBEATEN: The Earnest Author forgot to include his own tax info with this op-ed piece, and he fails to note that the NY Times could disclose many more salaries of their top reporters and staff than they do. Despite mentioning the Scandinavian practice he also omits this sort of detail:
“It is obvious that openness is significant,” said Stein Reegard, chief economist of the Norwegian Confederation of Trades Unions. “At least for a better-informed public debate about the different levels of wages in society, whether it’s a question of leaders’ wages or equal pay.”
But the evidence is unclear and OECD economist Herwig Immervoll said there was no obvious correlation between income transparency and pay disparities. A 2015 Eurostat report showed a gender pay gap of around 15 percent in Sweden and nearly 19 percent in Finland, compared to an EU average of just over 16 percent.
Yeah, well, whatever.
another vid of Notre Dame burning in Paris:
https://twitter.com/pzf/status/1117839242418368513
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 01:19 PM
The progs turned voyeurism into exhibitionism via sexting (see Bezos, or not)...
now they are going for it with financial voyeurism (aka envy).
which sin is next?
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 01:22 PM
Reposted from last thread.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1001139404805738498?s=21
Wikileaks weighs in on the QAnon phenomenon.
Obviously Wikileaks is opposed to the US’ attempts to bring Assange to justice. Among pro-Trump supporters there is a split between people who believe QAnon is legit while some believe it’s just trolls on 4/8chan that are having fun jerking everyone’s chains and believing their fabricated predictions. One thing no one can deny is that whoever is behind QAnon they have consistently supported Trump and attacked the Deep State. That makes the following comment from the embedded article come across as misinformation.
So on one hand we’ve got WikiLeaks insiders saying QAnon is a likely psyop designed to Pied Piper the populist right into supporting establishment agendas
Who in their right mind that has been following the QAnon phenomenon would ever make the claim they are supporting the establishment agenda? They are clearly pro-Trump/pro-MAGA and anti-Deep State/Swamp.
Does the fact Wikileaks is trying to spread misinformation that QAnon is trying to advocate an establishment agenda a signal that QAnon could be legit? Wikileaks claims QAnon is running a psyop. The US military is well versed in running psyop operations. It’s been a viable tactic to defeat the enemy for generations. I imagine there are numerous people working for the Defense Intelligence Agency more than capable of running a psyops campaign like QAnon. Of course my confirmation bias of being a Trump supporter and Army vet is kicking in on that possibility.
Posted by: Tom R | April 15, 2019 at 01:23 PM
I don't the gov't should have any right to know how much money we make. For the most part, these are private transactions between free citizens. Taxing consumption via a national sales tax is much more consistent with the Constitution, notwithstanding the 16th Amendment.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 15, 2019 at 01:37 PM
Very sad news about Notre Dame!
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 01:40 PM
The most interesting detail is what Steve McIntyre has pointed out the indictment is a stretch.
Posted by: Narciso79 | April 15, 2019 at 01:42 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago
So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 01:42 PM
OBAMA ADVISER’S BOOK IS RANKED 1,030 ON AMAZON. HOW DID IT MAKE NYT’S BEST SELLER LIST?
Apparently there are companies that you can pay to game the system. They buy 10,000 books, and voila. Best seller!
Posted by: Extraneus | April 15, 2019 at 01:43 PM
The Rose Window!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 01:44 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
8m8 minutes ago
Spoke to @TigerWoods to congratulate him on the great victory he had in yesterday’s @TheMasters, & to inform him that because of his incredible Success & Comeback in Sports (Golf) and, more importantly, LIFE, I will be presenting him with the PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 01:44 PM
Narciso @ 1:42
I have followed McIntyre going back to his days of debunking Mann’s infamous Hockey Stick graph. Tweets like the one below now make me question his ulterior motives.
https://twitter.com/climateaudit/status/1117826501439737856?s=21
Posted by: Tom R | April 15, 2019 at 01:53 PM
Go to the link and scroll down to The Frame.
http://www.notredamedeparis.fr/en/la-cathedrale/architecture/
This is why it could be a real catastrophe in the making.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 01:54 PM
Well hes got part of it right nusrat front and Its new alliance operates out of Idlib province but hes strongly on the anti intervention angle.
Posted by: Narciso79 | April 15, 2019 at 01:58 PM
Video at link!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:01 PM
I had to repost this because I don't want anyone to miss it:
MM,
That's very cool. And this is for you JIB from a friend on Facebook:
The debate over 1986 and 2019 will be a rich one, the kind that will never be decided. Whom among us can say which man hit the better shot into the green at Red Bud? Which hug between father and son was most meaningful? Would Tiger worry that his final round of 70, acquired by cunning and patience, lacked the luster of Jack’s 65, the last ten holes of which looked like Secretariat at The Belmont? Would Jack conclude that, even though he was 46, and Tiger only 43 in the moment, that he had never faced the injuries, delicate surgeries, and painful rehab that Tiger endured to claw his way back?
I’m certain of one thing. Next year, on Tuesday of Masters Week, the two men will sit side by side at The Champion’s Dinner. One will pass the other the salt and pepper. Their eyes will meet, and an unspoken truth will pass between them:
“It’s good to be us. It’s good to be at Augusta. It’s good to have given to the world what Bob Jones wanted us to give.”
Posted by: Jane | April 15, 2019 at 02:06 PM
The towers only about 300 feet they couldn't get anyone close enough to spare near 800 years of history?
Posted by: Narciso79 | April 15, 2019 at 02:08 PM
“At least for a better-informed public debate about the different levels of wages in society, whether it’s a question of leaders’ wages or equal pay.”
Yes, by all means let's accommodate envy and covetousness by providing more information to the envious and covetous. What could go wrong?
Posted by: jimmyk | April 15, 2019 at 02:10 PM
Narciso @ 1:58
A broad generalization but IMO a substantial segment of the anti-interventionist crowd, especially the paleocons on the extreme right, are anti-Semites who just hate the idea that US foreign policy in the Middle East benefits the continued existence of Israel. I’m not saying this applies to McIntyre but who else besides Democrats would advocate for a change in US foreign policy that benefits Iran and harms Israel? If Iranian units are operating in Syria, I’m perfectly fine with the Israelis destroying them.
Posted by: Tom R | April 15, 2019 at 02:11 PM
The Flèche (spire) over the transept and altar is gone. It included a fragment from the Crown of Thorns.
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:14 PM
Narciso,
I have a friend watching on Fox. Shep said (yeah, I know it's Shep) that they couldn't get water up to where the fire is. My friend says the firemen don't seem to know what to do.
Macron is now trying to figure out how to save the art. THIS FIRE HAS BEEN BURNING SINCE 11:30 EASTERN!!!!!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:14 PM
Beasts,
What a tragedy!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:15 PM
Tom R, "who else but Democrats"... McCain and the crew of the SS Cuck plus the Chamber of Cronies last I looked. (You can say they are not Republicans if you want).
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 02:15 PM
So sorry about Notre Dame Cathedral.
It was beautiful when I saw it last summer.
Captain:
Baldwin Wallace cutting ties with the United Methodist Church because they will not elect LGBTQ people as leaders.
Posted by: D | April 15, 2019 at 02:16 PM
This is breaking my wife's heart and mine. Every time we are in Paris we would visit Notre Dame. A nice respite from the heat or rain or just for some quiet reflection time. A real ice pick to the heart.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 02:18 PM
does Macron pay violin by chance?
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 02:18 PM
BTW a long time ago Thomas Wictor said that Saudi commandos were operating in Syria posing as ISIS insurgents to fight against Assad and the Iranians. This conjecture was largely based on how well armed and coordinated the insurgents were combined with the fact the US military under Trump was openly supporting them.
Posted by: Tom R | April 15, 2019 at 02:18 PM
Jack,
They really should have dumped water on it from aerial tankers, like Trump said. I don't even know if France has any, though.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:19 PM
Incredible that they had no plan for how to fight a fire there, especially given the renovations going on.
No doubt it will be rebuilt, but obviously impossible to reproduce.
Posted by: jimmyk | April 15, 2019 at 02:19 PM
Not that this helps anything:
Breaking News Feed @pzf
2m
Notre Dame was built in the 13th century, but it was ransacked in the French Revolution and largely rebuilt in the 1840s.
The spire that just fell went up about 150 years ago.
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 02:20 PM
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
5h5 hours ago
BREAKING: Documents Show Mueller 'Distorted' Evidence in Court Filings, Raising Questions about the Objectivity of His Final Report
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:21 PM
Microbiome update:
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/04/14/Treating-gut-bacteria-could-help-ease-autism-symptoms/1051555164001/?sl=1
Posted by: henry | April 15, 2019 at 02:22 PM
Macron is on scene. Yay!!
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 02:23 PM
That's true, henry, but the relics (three in total) will be harder to replace.
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:24 PM
Rose Window and all the others are made of glass and lead. Lead melts at about 650F.
Mortar and Limestone both do funny things in high heat.
As Jack, says, structural wood...
And, depending on how much water they are pumping from the Seine into the structure, I wouldn't want to vouch for the integrity of the hand dug and hand constructed foundations and footings. (We aren't talking about Romans with their magic hydraulic cement here. We are talking Frenchmen, working for priests, centuries after the Romans vacated.)
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 02:25 PM
Washington Examiner
Verified account @dcexaminer
6m6 minutes ago
UPDATE: The roof of the #NotreDame Cathedral in Paris has completely collapsed: https://washex.am/2Xdmakn
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:25 PM
The roof has now completely collapsed.
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:27 PM
I'll let Miss Marple handle the rest of the breaking news. :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:28 PM
Jimmy. "No doubt it will be rebuilt, but obviously impossible to reproduce."
I, for one, have some doubt about that. Just as I complain that the collective US DNA is different from generations past, that is even more true for the French.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 02:28 PM
Oh Dear, shepTARD doesn't want to hear what might have happened...... ON HIS WATCH.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 02:29 PM
Does anyone now if this is true?
Pardes Seleh
Verified account @PardesSeleh
24m24 minutes ago
the famous saint sulpice church in paris was lit on fire just last month. the month before that an attack on st. nicholas in northern france, and another fire lit in saint alain cathedral in south-central france.
there seems to be a recurring theme here.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:30 PM
Beasts "but the relics (three in total) will be harder to replace."
Tru Dat, those clever artists are hard to find these days.
JK! JK!
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 02:30 PM
Don't be surprised if the full structure collapses. Hard to believe that they didn't have adequate "pompiers" with the hydraulics to cover a historic structure such as Notre Dame. Poor planning by the safety and security services including the highest echelons of the federal and city governments.
Shep is such an ass. Had a guy on who is there and he made a comment about how the government and the media will spin the cause of the fire in very PC terms. Shep said, "we are not going there, my show, I will decide what you will say and what I will hear". Back to the game.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 02:32 PM
I ain't touching that one during Holy Week, OL!! ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:33 PM
French official talking on Fox said to Shep this was like France's 9/11 and also mentioned those 4 churches burning. Shep shut him down and said no speculation.
My friend said the guy was obviously going to Muslim set and SHep wasn't going to allow it.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:33 PM
Then he said......GET ME MY FUCKING DRINK.
Oh they write themselves.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 02:35 PM
:-) Beasts,
As I said, JK. JK.
Sad beyond comprehension.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 02:35 PM
Mrs. JiB tells me that about 50-60 years ago there was talk about raising Notre Dame and building something different (modern?) there.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 02:37 PM
If this is terrorism Macron will be out by tomorrow.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:38 PM
Such a tragedy!
I remember daddy posting from his favorite cafe nearby.
Why do all the good things have to be removed or go up in flames?
Posted by: D | April 15, 2019 at 02:39 PM
“It’s good to be us. It’s good to be at Augusta. It’s good to have given to the world what Bob Jones wanted us to give.”
Jim Caviezel starred in "Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius" who came from nowhere to become the first golf superstar only to retire at 28 because the competitive urges were destroying him. He made a few blunders such as badmouthing the Old Course at St Andrews before making amends by insisting that the trophy stay there after he won and returned to Atlanta, making him a favorite of the locals. ANGC is his gift to the golf world.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 15, 2019 at 02:39 PM
Jack,
Why would anyone want to do that? It was a huge tourist attraction and a work of art!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:39 PM
Yes it is, OL. I'm glad the younger Beasette got to see it a few years ago...
Posted by: Beasts of England | April 15, 2019 at 02:40 PM
My daughter saw it when she was in college. She will be heartsick.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:41 PM
Melania Trump
Verified account @FLOTUS
38m38 minutes ago
My heart breaks for the people of Paris after seeing the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral. Praying for everyone’s safety.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:44 PM
MM,
I don't know but Mrs. JiB said it was a case study assignment in her Architecture curriculum in her University in Brussels. Next to St. Peter's in Rome, and St. Patrick's in NYC, it is the most popular Cathedral in the world.
A lot of the construction workers in Paris are Muzzie, so don't be too surprised that is how it started. An acetylene torch is easy to light, and even easier to start a wood fire on scaffolding. The fact that Fox still has that corrupt personality tells me all the Left's criticism seems misplaced.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 02:47 PM
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
President in Minnesota.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | April 15, 2019 at 02:48 PM
I wonder what Ailes thought he saw in Shep.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 15, 2019 at 02:51 PM
If this is terrorism Macron will be out by tomorrow.
We'll see. I have my doubts on that.
Posted by: James D. | April 15, 2019 at 02:53 PM
newsweek did a story about a month ago. https://www.newsweek.com/spate-attacks-catholic-churches-france-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800
Easter Week and preempting a macron speech on the economic divide in france set for tonight.
Posted by: rse | April 15, 2019 at 02:54 PM
You can also tell what an empty suit david muir is because he has nothing intelligent to say about a place and city he has been to.
Posted by: rse | April 15, 2019 at 02:55 PM
Maryrose "Why do all the good things have to be removed or go up in flames?"
It is a metaphor of the times, MR.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 02:57 PM
One of our illustrious host’s tweets is highlighted on a post about donkey-chompers at twitchy. Dude’s a cyber media gorilla. 😉
Posted by: lyle | April 15, 2019 at 02:59 PM
A gay man who did as he was told.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 02:59 PM
It is a metaphor of the times
Sigh.
Posted by: lyle | April 15, 2019 at 03:00 PM
My daughter is heartbroken. The son-in-law proposed to her in Paris.
That fire doesn't look contained at all! Terrible.
Posted by: Marlene | April 15, 2019 at 03:02 PM
There's the most incredible video of the Notre Dame fire here.
I think it may actually be live, because there's no timing bar..
https://news.yahoo.com/live-updates-fire-at-notre-dame-cathedral-in-paris-173732973.html
Posted by: JM Hanes | April 15, 2019 at 03:04 PM
This seems like horrific legal advice. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-15/lori-loughlin-and-mossimo-giannulli-plead-not-guilty-college-admissions-scandal-0
Her demeanor was extraordinarily inappropriate and now this. BS on the excuse about her daughters.
Posted by: rse | April 15, 2019 at 03:05 PM
There was a secondary fire in the tower to the right, which I believe has been put out, as the fire hose near the tower is now being aimed toward the central interior. The building to the left looks like an absolute inferno. Not seeing a lot of water being delivered.
Posted by: JM Hanes | April 15, 2019 at 03:07 PM
WTF Paris. They don't seem to have done anything whatsoever to put it out, including when it was much much smaller.
Posted by: Porchlight | April 15, 2019 at 03:12 PM
BTW I'm pretty sure some people did something to start this, and some other people are probably dancing in the streets just blocks away from the flames.
Posted by: Porchlight | April 15, 2019 at 03:13 PM
rse,
You never know with juries who see Aunt Becky. Sometimes people can't separate fiction from reality. I agree with terrible advice but its like betting on a 2,500 to 1 nag in the Derby. You never know:)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 03:15 PM
carried over from dead thread:
OL=Incorrigible Lurker
Gus, my sister was in town this weekend for my mother's 100th birthday and brought sad tidings--Jake's was sold and now stinks.
Posted by: clarice | April 15, 2019 at 03:16 PM
I wonder how many allahu akbars were uttered when that fell.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | April 15, 2019 at 03:16 PM
porch,
Unpossible. Newark and the Jersey City how-down were proven false, right?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 03:17 PM
...hoe-down....
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 03:27 PM
:-) Clarice.
HB to your Mom. You have what, 50%, chance for her genes?
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 03:28 PM
CBS has a knowledgable commentator here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGbmWOfdXcQ
Posted by: JM Hanes | April 15, 2019 at 03:32 PM
Happy birthday for your mother clarice.
Where did they find this Muir character he had nothing to say.
Posted by: Narciso79 | April 15, 2019 at 03:32 PM
Well, he's gone now, and it's back to the generalists.
Posted by: JM Hanes | April 15, 2019 at 03:33 PM
HB to Clarice's mom. 100 is a milestone for anyone's life. One well lived that produced a Clarice Feldman. Not bad. Not bad at all.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 03:33 PM
Happy birthday and congratulations to your mother, Clarice. That's wonderful.
Posted by: Porchlight | April 15, 2019 at 03:34 PM
Say it isn't so Clarice!!!! I'm going there tomorrow, to check. 16th and NORTH.
Clarice, the new owner is Brian Miller of MILLER BAKERY.
FAMOUS RYE BREAD1!!!!!!!!!!!! And Bud Selig still owns the other half.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 03:35 PM
Maybe Aunt Becky plans to pay off the prosecutors!
Posted by: Jane | April 15, 2019 at 03:37 PM
53.7. OL
Posted by: Jane | April 15, 2019 at 03:41 PM
I'm told Miller isn't making rye bread any more, either, Gus. The world is coming to an end.
Posted by: clarice | April 15, 2019 at 03:41 PM
I must have missed the part of Lesley Stahl's interview on 60 Minutes last evening where she asks Pelosi about her tax returns and why she and Mr Pelosi haven't submitted them for review by the US public..
Heartbreaking news about Notre Dame. I memeber daddy's discourses on that area when his work took him to Paris.
If I had better google-fu skills I'd try to track his comments down. DaveinMA?
Posted by: glasater | April 15, 2019 at 03:42 PM
Happy Birthday to you Mom, Clarice.
Posted by: glasater | April 15, 2019 at 03:44 PM
Clarice, ironically, Brian Miller is not related to the MILLER'S who founded Millers' famous rye back in the 20's.
They make the PRETZILLA BUNS that Bob Uecker shills for.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 03:48 PM
The question I have is IF this was a terrorist (Muslim) related act, will they claim credit?
Posted by: Momto2 | April 15, 2019 at 03:49 PM
Jane,
daddy would have had a great view of the fire from his perch in The Great Canadian pub.
https://www.facebook.com/tgcparis/
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 03:49 PM
You never know with juries who see Aunt Beck
Honestly? I’d probably vote to acquit her, simply on my total distrust of the department of justice, and my wondering why going after her was so much more urgent than going after literal traitors who damaged our national security, got American citizens killed, and ripped off taxpayers for tens of millions of dollars.
That, and wondering why the school presidents and deans who HAD to know this crap was going on, aren’t sitting next to her at the defendant’s table.
Posted by: James D. | April 15, 2019 at 03:52 PM
The crossing roof has clearly collapsed into the interior. I don't see how they'll save any of that part of the building. Perhaps the outer face of the transepts might survive. It looks like most of the nave is burning too, although that may just be light emanating from the main fire. There is still some hint of fire inside one of the towers which seems persistent The hose on the right seems to alternate between the tower and the knave, which makes me wonder about whether or not they just don't have the fixtures or the pressure to man multiple hoses there? Anything that does survive is going to remain a safety nightmare, I should think.
Posted by: JM Hanes | April 15, 2019 at 03:53 PM
glasater:
https://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2016/07/if-you-are-not-nervous-about-the-upcoming-election.html
?
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | April 15, 2019 at 03:55 PM
Jane, spiked by that procedure prep I mentioned above, mine is 24.0 for a day or two.
You and I both are now at the point of asking is more good or bad?
Mrs. OL is sure sick of it, but like you, the diet works fine with me.
Maybe A-mom will tell us how much is enough...
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 03:56 PM
Mom "The question I have is IF this was a terrorist (Muslim) related act, will they claim credit?"
This is one of those times when "assume nuthin" until some fact-facts are known.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 15, 2019 at 03:58 PM
Carried over from previous thread:
One of our members is a retired cardiac surgeon from Columbus. His course there, which I forget, but not Muirfield, put together a 4 man team, which included John P. McConnell, of Worthington Industries and Blue Jacket ownership.
JiB
Next time you see him ask if it was Scioto Country Club.
It is in my old neighborhood and is the iconic course in Columbus. It is where Jack learned to play.
Buckeyette's best childhood friend's family are members. Dad is Chief of Oncology at OSU.
They are members of our church and I played the course with him, Chris Spielman, and one of our young pastor no longer at the church.
The young pastor is a Libtard, which doesn't sit well with Chris. He was in his face the whole time we were out.
As you can well imagine, Chris can be a bit intimidating:)
We also played Muirfield. Tougher.
Posted by: Buckeye | April 15, 2019 at 04:02 PM
Buckeye,
I think that is it. The surgeon is Charlie Bush. Something like 4K open heart surgeries. Makes sense McConnell would be a member since his Dad founded Worthington tears before Jack founded Muirfield. He probably belongs to both.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | April 15, 2019 at 04:07 PM
I think I'll wait until John Patrick Frey weighs in, before I blame Trump for the FIRE.
Posted by: GUS | April 15, 2019 at 04:09 PM
Caveat just cut off Bill Donohue. No discussion,no speculation.
Posted by: Marlene | April 15, 2019 at 04:11 PM
GUS, they were going to put the fire out, but when they saw Trump's tweets about how terrible it was, they decided to let it burn.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | April 15, 2019 at 04:12 PM