Into The Breach! The WaPo Editors Defend Charter Schools

The WaPo editors come out swinging in defense of charter schools.

There’s nothing progressive about strangling charter schools

No, but there's a lot that's progressive about unquestioning fealty to public sector unions and to a belief in central government control.

Mayor deBlasio of NYC has a record on public school administration but fortunately he is not now nor will ever be more than an asterix candidate in the Presidential polls.

Among the less ludicrous candidates, Spartacus has some relevant history as former Mayor of Newark. In the Senate he has also voted on (and mostly for) the DC charter school program.

Chalkbeat and Dylan Scott of Vox have lots more. Let me bottom-line you - it's complicated. From Chalkbeat:

There’s no doubt the reforms were unpopular with many residents. Whether they improved outcomes for students has been the subject of debate.

A recent study led by Harvard researchers found that the changes led to an initial decline in student growth on state tests. By 2016, students’ annual gains in English, but not math, were higher than comparable students across New Jersey, the researchers found. Students’ scores have continued to rise, and graduation rates leapt nearly 20 percentage points since the overhaul began. Meanwhile, the city’s large charter-school networks — including North Star Academy, whose board Booker once sat on — rank among the top performing schools in the state.

Other indicators are less encouraging: About one in three students in Newark’s traditional schools were chronically absent last school year — about the same share as when the reforms began.

But whatever improvements the changes spurred have largely been overshadowed by the way they were enacted. Detailed in the book “The Prize” by journalist Dale Russakoff, the overhaul came to symbolize top-down reform imposed by ideological outsiders and highly paid consultants.

In recent years, Zuckerberg has reconsidered his approach to reform in Newark, saying he wants to “go in the opposite direction” by working more closely with community members and teachers unions.

Comments

[Jim Eagle]

First and pissed since once again my post on last thread is the last one.

[Jim Eagle]

Reposting:

For some reason, I guess on an intellectual, intelligence gathering, observing, calculating plane, I found this analysis very interesting. I had to read it twice to really get to its conclusions as spot on.

https://www.amgreatness.com/2019/05/27/how-i-knew-trump-would-win-in-2016-and-will-win-again/

[Jim Eagle]

100% Matriculation, 100% College acceptance.

Which Charter School can show that?

[henry]

JiB, compare to Milwaukee Public Schools...Charters are way better. Sadly, Gov Evers is owned by the teachers unions (as he was his many terms as state superintendent of schools).

Remember schools are there to keep the teachers voting prog, plus any brainwashing those imbeciles can perform. Educating children is way down the list.

[clarice]

The Wa Po ran an article this week showing that certain ethnicities were being given HS diplomas in the very high income Montgomery Country school system even though they were not attending classes. (Think of that. It most cost taxpayers a minimum $12 K per year per student and they are handing out diplomas to kids who are not attending, probably the very kids who ost need to attend.)

In DC there are a lot of complaint by the administration that charter schools are drawing away as many as 50% of the publicly financed students from public schools , increasing costs because there's also demands to keep non performing schools operating.

[clarice]

s/b mUst cost
and there are a lot of complaintS and there ARE also
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Sorry--I'm quite tired today.

[jimmyk]

increasing costs because there's also demands to keep non performing schools operating.

I thought part of the point of charter schools was to be able to shutter the failing public (non-charter) schools.

[Narciso79]

The problem is the state tests are garbage as to establishing what students should know, so is the curriculum but that's another story.

[Melinda]

Fresh Sharyl.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/445353-why-obstruction-and-cover-up-charges-smack-of-desperation

[Narciso79]

Fire and fury, Woolf's first offering was very near beer, of course HBO is turning into a 10 part series or showtime

[henry]

Jimmyk, in Milwaukee the School District wont shut “neighborhood schools” down, or sell / lease close school buildings to charters. More open schools means more admins & teachers (ie more union dues). Cost effective education is never in the program.

[Narciso79]

That's outrageous clarice but yet not surprising.

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

Thanks for posting that article. I agree, and will add a couple of other things I know:

1. That show The Apprentice was watched by a bazillion people over the 13 years it ran, and everyone felt like they KNEW him.

2. Trump attended Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan, Presbyterian and NORMAN VINCENT PEALE'S CHURCH!!

having been to a rally here, I will tell you that there are indeed all types of people, who will wait in line for hours and sit patiently, once in, and are wildly excited to see him. And they talk to you about how glad they are to have someone who LISTENS to them, and understands.

I don't think anyone can beat him unless there is massive fraud.

[Jane]

It is so bloody hot here today I can't believe it. I was just out transplanting some plants (3 more to go) and that really was a mistake. My guess is it's 148 degrees.

[Narciso79]

He has an odd view of the center:

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/05/the-european-center-weakens

[JohnH]

TomR, Clemens was pulled for a pinch hitter having thrown 139 pitches. He had had no hits in 3 earlier plate appearances.

[Melinda]

henry @ 3:31, nor will they in Chicago. Empty of students , yet fully staffed from home.

[clarice]

Exactly, Henry.
And yes, Narciso, a lot of the classroom stuff is a waste of time if you're smart (and your parents have taught you a lot). OTOH these kids--probably are not in that category and are just being passed thru so no one can make a (fake) claim of discrimination,

[Narciso79]

I would have said add me to the indictment:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/05/the-times-wants-to-know.php

[Narciso79]

I've been in the belly (more like the esoohagus) they are not learning basic things year to year, but to automatically pass them is more of the travesty

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

Thanks for that Atkisson article.

I knew the thing was bogus from the start. Trump is 2 years older than I am, and he grew up during the Cold War, just like me. I have an innate distrust of Russians stemming from my fears of them in my youth, and I imagine he carries some of those same feelings. Especially so, since Putin is ex-KGB.

In addition, Trump doesn't like anybody being in his business, particularly someone like Vladimir Putin.

The whole story was concocted by Hillary and Obama because that is JUST the sort of thing they would do, commie-lovers as they are.

[Dave (in MA)]

60° in Sturbridge.

[Narciso79]

So the wire may have been true as far as ot went but it's really the question of the curriculum not the test itself

[Melinda]

53F in Chicago, rain impending.

(yes, you too, MM)

[Narciso79]

It really is a crime, may not as obvious as the looting of the Annenberg fund but close.

[Narciso79]

She leaves out fitz was the attorney for Michigan state

https://amgreatness.com/2019/05/27/comeys-fbi-ignored-sexual-abuse-victims-to-pursue-political-foes/

[Narciso79]

Ponder that for a moment the fellos who falsely charged libby and largely conrad black who protected Armitage and radler and the rest of the hollinger board.

[rse]

The original vision for charters was hatched by systems theorist, Bela Banathy, in the early 70s as a means to transform education away from an academic focus. I have all the documents and people are surprised, if they actually read the charter, that they eesentially create a vision that aligns with what I laid out as Transformational outcomes based education in my book.

It can be better than a regular public school, but they have a surprising vision of what constitutes student achievement.

On famous brushes, I sat next to the then head of apple on a flight to west coast and learned stories about other well-known tech heads in the mid 90s.

Plus I was in SF for an arbitration that left me no time to go home for weekend so son and hubby came to visit me. Had a room at the mandarin oriental (now the Loew's) looking out over the bay bridge and julia child was staying there as well. She saw my 4 year old son's curls and started running her hands through his hair with that high pitched voice crooning "what a cute little boy."

Had barry goldwater sit behind me in first class when I was coming back from a meeting in dc and the flight continued on from arizona from dc. He either drank too much in the crown room or had the beginnings of dementia.

[Jim Eagle]

Clarice,

How many of those Montgomery kids got accepted to Ivy's under the new "adversity" rules?

[rse]

I have a law school friend who went to a summer tennis camp and learned that the boy she only knew as john was jfk jr only while watching him address the envelope of a letter he was posting to mrs onassis on scorpio.

She clearly went to tonier camps as a child.

[Captain Hate]

OTOH these kids--probably are not in that category and are just being passed thru so no one can make a (fake) claim of discrimination,

Like Stedman's disparate impact suits? Way to look out for "your people", chinless imbecile.

[Narciso79]

Oh the clueless da in central Florida, one standard deviation above aoc will not seek reelection

[Captain Hate]

Famous brushes, kind of: Dr Ruth was holding court at the same gate I was at in Philthadelphia's airport for a connecting flight. She seemed like a very happy person.

[Tom R]

Clemens was pulled for a pinch hitter having thrown 139 pitches. He had had no hits in 3 earlier plate appearances

So? Back in the 80s limiting pitch counts wasn't as big a deal as it is now. If you are 6 outs away from winning the World Series that you haven't won since 1918 and your Cy Young winning ace has a 3-2 lead and he tells you he is good to go and wants to stay in you let him stay in. Schiraldi was warm in the pen ready to go if Clemens got in trouble in the 8th. Either Clemens lied or McNamara lied and based on past behavior I will go with Clemens. He took himself out of the game at crunch time.

[Tom R]

Sounds like Steele is scared of the truth coming out.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele/british-ex-spy-will-not-talk-to-u-s-prosecutor-examining-trump-probe-origins-source-idUSKCN1SY20K

[Captain Hate]

HOF AtC

I am fat as hell and that bikini pic is not empowering or the like. Rather the opposite.

I mean, hey, if she is confident going out in public like that, okay, fine. But I'm not going to celebrate it.

The only "fat acceptance" I want is to not be insulted to my face about being fat. That's it. Don't be a dick to me about it. That's just manners.

I've said it before, I'm fat and I have none of the health issues that we're told are inevitable from being fat and you know what that means? NOT A DAMN THING. Nothing. It doesn't mean medical science is lying to us and diets are slavery or whatever. It means that, right now at least, I'm dodging the bullets. Doesn't mean the bullets aren't there.

Grrrrrrrrr. Why do people have to pretend like everything must be celebrated?

Being fat is unhealthy. It's not good. No, I don't believe in being shamed, but I sure as hell do not want to be celebrated either.

Except for The Rack but that's different. That has an existence of its own.

In short, bite me in the non happy fun way, Gillette.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at May 28, 2019 03:30 PM (mf5HN)

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Why is it that every time I go to AOS I cannot find comments like the one's you post?

[Buckeye]

Darth Sugartits:)

AtC has a way with words.

[Neo]

Virpi Mikkonen, 37, cookbook author and plant-based food blogger at Vanelja, recently announced her decision to eat meat and other animal products again.
The Finnish entrepreneur said her decade of following a mostly vegan diet led to health concerns like a rash, period loss, and early menopause.
After quitting veganism, she says, "I feel energetic, motivated. I’m sleeping better, the hot flushes, and aching in my body have stopped."

Our future under the Green New Deal

[Narciso79]

They are date stamped, for accuracy.

[MissMarple2]

I swear to God I am going to run for mayor of Indy, just so somebody will pay attention to the damn chuckholes in our streets!

Seriously, we have terrible chuckholes and not just in this neighborhood; they are everywhere, and some are HUGE. Do I ever see anyone repairing them? Nope.

That's why a guy was walking around the Speedway on Sunday with a sign that asked people to sign a petition to fix them.

All Hogsett does is run around the city getting his picture taken in black churches.

Somebody in one of those churches should ask him about the number of murders and the increase in gang violence. And chuckholes.

[Dave (in MA)]

Who said what that caused the Dow to do a Lougainis about 2 hours ago?

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

Sad .... we can't even watch a frigging RAZOR commercial without having this inane transgender crap shoved down our throats.

Another reason for my seat on The Ledge.

[Threadkiller]

Narciso, does your dashboard look like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5JyZWpknIeM

If so, you will notice how easily the knobs come off.

The guy in the video is fixing the "mode" cable. Notice how the knob doesn't turn fully in either direction and springs back? If your "temp" cable malfunctioned it would be similar in action.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

An oldie:

[MissMarple2]

The Hill
‏Verified account @thehill

JUST IN: Andrew Cuomo says he'll run for fourth term as New York governor http://hill.cm/ki8fvTY

[Narciso79]

It doesn't spring as easily, but similar design. It moves normally it just doesn't cool. In the morning there is a bit of air but it's hot by noon.

[Narciso79]

Raises hand, did they find a clutch of dragon eggs we didny know about.

[Jane]

"60° in Sturbridge."

Well I never said I wanted to wear mittens Dave!

[Threadkiller]

Relative to the ambient temperature is it a little warmer or is it actually hot, when the temp knob is in the coldest selection?

[Threadkiller]

LOL, fdcol63!

[Narciso79]

About the same as if there was no coolant.

[Dave (in MA)]

Narciso, does your dashboard look like this?

Hey, it's my old car.

[Threadkiller]

If there was no coolant, the heater would barely warm up if at all.

Maybe I don't understand.

[jimmyk]

“we have terrible chuckholes”

Is “chuckhole” Indianan for “pothole”?

[Jim Eagle]

There is no one to take Andrew on. It's like New Yorkers have accepted the status quo as the new normal. What say you sbw in the Netherlands?

Maybe, Donald Trump, Jr. ??

[Melinda]

Chuckholes throw hubcaps a bit further, and a bit more accurately, than potholes.

[Jim Eagle]

Watching Sky News. The muzzies are targeting all the hospitals in Idibid, Syria. That alone gives you an idea of the Muzzie mindset. Also, schools and other public places. They need to be exterminated as a religion and a sect of humanity.

[Pinandpuller]

How do religious schools receive tax funding?

https://nypost.com/2018/05/12/these-taxpayer-funded-jewish-schools-are-dooming-young-men-to-poverty/

[Extraneus]

A demonym makes its appearance.

[henry]

55 here. Any warmer I’d turn on the AC.

[Narciso79]

I get heat whether I turn the air conditioner or the heater.

[Narciso79]

That Is Qatar and Turkey's bailiwick and we dont touch Idlib either.

[Threadkiller]

When you turn the heater knob, on a fully warmed up engine, does the temperature of the air change?

[Another Bob]

“Narciso, does your dashboard look like this?”

Yeah TK, that doesn’t look like any HVAC I’ve been around... ;)

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chuckhole

The cited example is from the Indy Star.

[JimNorCal]

fdcol JOM America, wow love it!

[Threadkiller]

:-) AB.

[MissMarple2]

jimmyk,

I never heard them called "potholes" until Easterners started moving here. Everybody I know from my age group still calls them chuckholes. LOL!

fdcol63 🇺🇸,

HAHAHA! An astute cartoon. However, at least I'm not gloomy!

[Threadkiller]

Narciso, I have to run. I think we are having trouble communicating because of the specifics I am used to. When you say "air conditioning" i assume you are referring to the cool setting on the temp knob, but I can't be sure.

Here is what I am used to, the MODE knob is where we talk about specifically MAX AC, AC, VENT, HEAT, DEFROST

The TEMP knob is where we talk specifically about WARM and COLD.

When you say "air conditioning" my mind points me to the MODE knob.

Does this make sense?

[clarice]

https://www.meforum.org/islamist-watch/58363/41-million-of-taxpayer-subsidized-islamism?utm_source=Middle+East+Forum&utm_campaign=c63b79178b-IW_newsletter_2018_06_29_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_086cfd423c-c63b79178b-33810909&goal=0_086cfd423c-c63b79178b-33810909&mc_cid=c63b79178b&mc_eid=73d705bf42

[JimNorCal]

clarice was apologizing for typos and nowadays she's a semi-pro writer.
You know who else has buckets of typos? Don Surber!

He's quick to acknowledge and thank anyone who brings a substantive error to his attention. But he resolutely ignores typos. It gives insight into being a pro in the business. He just dashes off his posts. He cares about the theme. He cares about crafting a memorable phrase. But common typos bring him no worry, no shame whatsoever.

[Threadkiller]

I should say that my mind points me to the MODE knob but I want to assume you are talking about the TEMP knob.

[Marlene]

Good afternoon. My sister-in-law just texted. Desmond's surgery went as planned. The tumor and his left adrenal gland were removed. Now we wait for the lab results. Thank you for all the prayers!

[James D.]

https://amgreatness.com/2019/05/27/comeys-fbi-ignored-sexual-abuse-victims-to-pursue-political-foes/

Yet again, I agree with MM's call to gut or eliminate the FBI.

[MissMarple2]

Marlene,

I am so happy Desmond is so far doing ok. Please let us know as soon as you find out about the lab results.

Will continue praying.

[MissMarple2]

James D.,

Glad you agree. So ar, I am not seeing any value in the FBI. They waste a lot of time on political stuff and throwing their weight around in bogus corruption cases, but they don't do anything about actual criminals or terrorists.

[Jane]

Thanks for the update Marlene. Hang tough!z

[Marlene]

I read the comments on the previous thread about all the encounters with famous people.
I don't have a story,but total strangers used to tell my mother I looked just like the Gerber baby. :)

[Tom R]

From the American Greatness article:

His decades-long crime spree that crossed state and international boundaries should not have gone unnoticed by federal law enforcement officials. Comey’s FBI should have been alerted that something was up even before girls started coming forward, given that there was already an internal investigation by Michigan State in 2014 into accusations of assault, or when Nassar suddenly retired as the team doctor in September 2015 as more allegations began to surface.

Don't the sexual abuse crimes Nassar committed fall under the jurisdiction of the state they were committed in? Seems to me law enforcement authorities in Michigan should be the ones who should primarily be getting the blame here.

[Narciso79]

The one all the way on the left of the oanel.

[clarice]

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/05/joe-rodham-biden.html
Biden's in the driver's seat and he's asleep at the wheel

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/05/whats_worse_than_being_a_caged_child_try_the_care_given_by_a_vaunted_leftists_migrant_center.html
Open borders advocate runs a taxpayer funded hellhole for illegal immigrant kids.

[GUS]

What a sweet man that FOXHOLIO is. SO???

Yeah, 139 pitches was perfectly normal after 7 innings back in 86.

What a buffoon.

[Beasts of England]

The water in the pool was 86° this afternoon. 😎

[MissMarple2]

Beasts, We got up to 85 air temp witih a nice breeze.

Thunderstorm warnings are out now. More rain. I feel like I live in the Amazon jungle.

My hydrangeas are almost 4 feet tall due to the excess moisture. Everything is VERY green, which isn't bad.

However, our ground is saturated so whenever we get a rain, in ponds in our back yard.

Plus, I am scared of tornadoes.

[Jim Eagle]

My pool in Southampton is like 65F since I don't have the heater on.

The pool in Florida is 84F without the heat on:)

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3h3 hours ago

Storms overnight across Ohio and many other States were very dangerous and damaging. My team continues to update me with reports from emergency managers in the States affected. Listen to your local officials and be resilient. We are with you!

[Extraneus]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/28/deep-state-blame-game-loretta-lynch-contradicts-comeys-testimony-on-clinton-email-investigation

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3h3 hours ago

.@GovMikeDeWine just updated me on the devastation from the many tornadoes that struck Ohio early this morning. My Administration fully supports the people of the great State of Ohio as they begin the cleanup and recovery.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
58m58 minutes ago

Just spoke to Governor @AsaHutchinson of the Great State of Arkansas to inform him that FEMA and the Federal Government will do whatever is necessary to help out with what has turned out to be Record Flooding. Asa and local officials are doing a great job!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
24m24 minutes ago

I was actually sticking up for Sleepy Joe Biden while on foreign soil. Kim Jong Un called him a “low IQ idiot,” and many other things, whereas I related the quote of Chairman Kim as a much softer “low IQ individual.” Who could possibly be upset with that?

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

From the Surber comments:

Also, they may not want to get too heavily invested in someone likely to be attached to Obama's spying. Sucks to have to say you weren't trusted enough to be included in the biggest conspiracy ever. Or that you were.

Great point!

[Extraneus]

Nxivm leader claimed abortions help women ‘lose weight and get fit’

[MissMarple2]

Catturd has a post with lots of comments about Hillary in the purple pola-dot mumuu and how fat she is.

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1133179181305618432

[Extraneus]

Who could possibly be upset with that?

Heh.

[Jim Eagle]

From later in light;

Roger Staubach. Played DE on his Purcell sr. year team.

Tom Mack. We worked together for 10 years. 5 in our DC office.

GHW Bush. Two lunches in the WH while in DC

Adm. Bobby Inman. My chairman on the Council of competitiveness in DC

Gorge Schultz, Executive Assistant. Took the phone call from the WH when Reagan wanted him to be Secty of State.

John Preston, Deputy PM of the UK. Wrote his white paper to save the Channel Tunnel Rail Link (i.e. Euro Rail)

Bertie Ahern, The Taoschiech of Ireland. Cocktails and Dinner to save the Dublin Light Rail Project.

Now I am retired. Not as many.

[henry]

Why isn’t Slick marching too?

[Melinda]

I’ll see your FvEy and raise you 100. Deposit your 4th Amendment rights with the doorman:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1133439159505477632.html

[Extraneus]

Hurdler born male but competing as female easily takes NCAA women's national championship

LOL. Check out the video.

(Click to open.)