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May 25, 2019

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President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Some time ago there was a discussion of David Gerlertner's article in Claremont Review of Books, highlighted in PL blog.

Dr Gerlertner (sorry if misspelled) recommended a book which did the math on the complexity of living things. It caused him to lean towards Intelligent Design.

Well, I haven't read that recommended book but I'm at chapter 6 of "Arrival of the Fittest" by A Wagner recommended by our henry. It goes a long way to explain how Life has overcome the math.

rich

marbles-and-strawberries dimension ... good grief.

and the bit above about the illegal spying starting back in 2012 (and probably shortly after the tea party wins in 2010) ... herb meyer at american thinker had some good stuff at the time.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

Donald J. Trump Retweeted Jon Voight

Thank you John, so nice!

(A comment on Job Voight's video.)

Jim Eagle

OL,

Call John Rist, his mother was my babysitter:) He furnishes the Hamptons with mega semi loads of Grey Goose and top champagnes.

http://www.herbertandrist.com/

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I'm going to have to vote "slightly skeptical" on this one;

Right click.

Old Lurker

Iggy "seems likely he would go ahead and charge him with obstruction. That he didn't doesn't argue that he was Trump's ally but it's a pretty good indicator he isn't a Deep State assassin either."

That's not how I see it. Mueller knew the claim would loose eventually in court, perhaps well before the 2020 elections and then it would be a dead letter in hurting Trump. But a convincing enough claim could be counted on to rile up the nuts in Congress and the MSM to tarnish Trump with the claim nonetheless, and might even lead to well timed impeachment proceedings which could indeed be timed to last until the election. Look how many on the left already believe every word of it.

Leaving the unseen monster on the other side of the door is and will be more scary than had they made the charge and lost.

Jim Eagle

Damn. Where did Yale get so may trans-sexual Asian quality lacrosse players or have they lowered their standards to where a white Christian hard ass lacrosse player can matriculate?

Captain Hate

From 3:58

Churchill also appears to have had strong opinions about FDR’s socialist domestic politics and naive fondness for the "heroic" Stalin and the USSR.

Saint Delano was played for a sucker badly by his fellow gimp. All of Eastern Europe suffered from being sold out.

Jim Eagle

Here comes Penn State. Now 10-5.

Captain Hate

Rosenstein was running herd on Mueller and indicting DJT would have violated DOJ guidelines.

MissMarple2

Congrats to @WestPoint_USMA class of 2019! From the 1st day just over the rise when you marched onto The Plain as Plebes on Acceptance Day—you committed yourselves to excellence &service. Over the last 4 yrs, you proved yourselves. You are, as @potus says, “the Best of the Best!” pic.twitter.com/Rfk9n1dToz

— Vice President Mike Pence (@VP) May 25, 2019

Pictures at link.

Jim Eagle

Now 11-7. Not good for henry.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Never gets old

lyle

Also from TWIP:

The man who invented autocorrect has died.

May he roast in piss.

bubarooni

BoE,

My kid's school is starting their first Lacrosse team next year.

I'm pushing my 15 y.o. to join. His response everytime is 'We are gonna suck!'

True enough and I don't understand the game so can't give pointers.

This is southern Indiana where basketball and, to a lesser extent football, rule. I understand both games and can watch and see what's going on.

To be honest, he's a soccer kid and I don't get that yet either. They just run up and down the field and I have no idea what they are doing.

Anyway, I told him the Lacrosse thing would be an easy way to earn points for a letterman's jacket.

Beasts of England

'That he didn't doesn't argue that he was Trump's ally but it's a pretty good indicator he isn't a Deep State assassin either.'

Only if there's no other explanation.

Beasts of England

Lacrosse is a great sport, bubarooni - wish I had played it as a youngster.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Mueller knew the claim would loose eventually in court, perhaps well before the 2020 elections and then it would be a dead letter in hurting Trump.--

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure they could have dragged it out a long time and in the meantime a mere indictment would have been enough to touch off the impeachment powder.
I suspect Mueller, as has been his method before, hired Weissman to run the show and Mueller played what he's good at, dim overseeing bureaucrat with excellent survival instincts, and gave Weissman as much head as he could without endangering the one indispensably precious thing in the whole fandango, Mueller's ass.
As CH points out Rosenstein and then Barr were riding herd on them ultimately so who knows where the buck stopped, but we know it has never stopped with Robert M.

Extraneus

Mueller probably knew about Barr's memo to Rosenstein, and once he was confirmed as AG, Mueller knew that Barr would call him out on the dubious obstruction theory if he tried to go for it.

I like the plodding lantern-jawed doofus theory, but it doesn't seem to explain why Mueller would have written Volume II at all, never mind the detailed "I'm fucked!" and related b.s. as well as the lengthy legal theory. Why would even a mediocre straight shooter do that, especially after Rosenstein was on record as publicly emphasizing the DoJ policy of not tarnishing people who aren't charged with crimes? It was a slimeball move.

Jim Eagle

bubarooni,

Played Lacrosse in high school with Canadians and Long Island kids. Where in the 50's and 60's Maryland and Hopkins got their Div 1 championship players. Frederick wanted to go, Crew, even though he is a top Lacrosse player.

It requires speed, quick reflexes and favors kids in college about 5'11 and 175lbs. The key is stick handling. You need to work on passing and catching with the stick. Needs lots of practice. Summer camps, etc. Also, work on foot speed. Get a lay down ladder for the kids to work on with their feet and movements. If you have a wall to bounce the ball against use it.

Go to YouTube for execises and movements. Not that difficult to learn and play.

Jim Eagle

Now 12-9.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Only if there's no other explanation.--

Well, there are potentially hundreds, but Bill of Occam only recognizes a couple.
I consider it likely that if Mueller had really wanted to indict or more forcefully harm Trump but was stopped by highers up that we would have heard about that.

clarice

I'm with Iggy and jmh--As for dots and following them, it reminds me why I was so bad at astronomy:all those dots in the sky seemed to be the constellation I was seeking.

bubarooni

Dang BoE!

I thought it was you posting the Lacrosse scores.

It's JiB!

Anyways JiB...

clarice

PS..Best wishes on the wedding OL-- even if you didn't take my advice on the orchids and doves, I'm sure it will be lovely.

Old Lurker

Cap'n "Rosenstein was running herd on Mueller and indicting DJT would have violated DOJ guidelines."

Some of us are not sure how much Rosenstein was herding Mueller in the first place, and the DoJ guidlines include other pesky requirements like reading FISA warrants before signing them and meeting other standards. So I would not hide behind that. But all Mueller would have had to say in the report is that they had a list of reasons on which they recommend the DoJ indict on Obstruction.

Damage done however it played out from there.

But I still say the monster behind the door approach will do more political damage than the indictment would have.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by President Trump:


Ronna McDaniel
‏Verified account @GOPChairwoman
3h3 hours ago

Democrats and the mainstream media loved to talk about transparency until they learned @realDonaldTrump was declassifying documents about how the Russia investigation started.

They're for every investigation except AG Barr's.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

Jim Eagle

Bubarooni,

Do not be hesitant of Lacrosse. Great team sport. He will like it.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by President Trump:


Jesse Watters
‏Verified account @JesseBWatters
23h23 hours ago

TOMORROW: Senator @LindseyGrahamSC splashes into @WattersWorld to discuss his relationship with President @realDonaldTrump, Senate Hearings, and the Kavanaugh Hearings. THIS is an episode that you SERIOUSLY are not going to want to miss. See you at 8PM ET tomorrow on Fox News

==========
(I believe this is on tonight.)

Jim Eagle

Bubarooni,

Go on Espn now and watch the Yale v. Penn State game with your son then ask him if it is for him.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by President Trump. Link goes to a Reuters article.

Dems plan a government TAKEOVER of healthcare.

That means ELIMINATING private plans (like Blue Cross/Blue Shield)! @realdonaldtrump will make healthcare more affordable & accessible using free market principles & will protect pre-existing conditions!https://t.co/3kV9BtsUlq

— Official Team Trump (@TeamTrump) May 24, 2019
Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I like the plodding lantern-jawed doofus theory, but it doesn't seem to explain why Mueller would have written Volume II at all, never mind the detailed "I'm fucked!" and related b.s. as well as the lengthy legal theory.--

My speculation was plodding lantern-jaw let Weissman run as far as he could without putting lanternjaw's ass in a sling. If he let Weissman hire the staff it's not hard to imagine him largely letting him do the footwork and writing Part Deux also.
Seems likely to me, were Weissman on his own with no supervision, Trump would have been in the dock.

Slimeball move keeps progs and staff off his back, but Trump as well. Nobody overjoyed but nobody out for his hide either = eternal modus operandi of sleazy bureaucrat survivors the world over.

Another Bob

Re. the supposed staff whining about Trump’s travel style, lots of business travel goes that way (except the not sleeping on the plane thing), and Trump has probably traveled that way for decades.

Staff snowflakes need to man up.

Captain Hate

did my pet good deed of the day today. After hearing some yelping outside Mrs Hate told me that King, a pit bull puppy of some neighbor's a few houses away, was running up and down the street. We live on a somewhat major street and people drive like dimwits over and beyond a 35 mph speed limit, so I grabbed Teddy's leash and went out. King might be street savvy enough to have survived but I didn't want to take a chance. Anyway he came right to me and let me put the leash on and walked him over to the neighbor's front porch, where I secured him. Mrs H took down a bowl of water since it's hot and he was fine. The neighbors came back and thanked me saying King had somehow gotten out of the back yard (they have a sturdy fence so who knows how he escaped) but all ended well.

Tom R

Iggy @ 3:56,

I appreciate it when you stick your neck out like that. It seems like those who like to resort to snark and ridicule have already made their minds up and don't appear to be willing to consider other plausible explanations for what happened.

Captain Hate

Mueller does look like Reporting for Doody.

JM Hanes

Tom R:

"I didn't see anything in your reply that explains why Mueller did not let Weissman get away with what they wanted to do."

I've seen nothing to support the idea that Mueller nixed what Weisman "wanted to do," aside from your apparent belief you have definitively divined Weissmann's intentions from Vol. II. (Now Weissmann & Dreeben! How inconvenient.)

Of course, Vol. II reads perfectly well as a roadmap for Congress, for which Weissmann (& Dreeben!) would also want to make the strongest possible case. The advantage of impeachment is that you don't actually have to defend your legal theory to the satisfaction of the assembled Supremes -- which, not coincidentally, is a very good reason not to recommend an indictment. There's no reason to believe that Weissmann and Mueller (and Dreeben!) weren't entirely in agreement on that.

"I think Mueller hired Weissman because he was ordered to by Rosenstein in order to get Weissman away from the DOJ while the crackdown on illegal leaking was going on."

There's a difference between speculation and spinning fairy tales. It must get really tiresome to have to come up with so many ancillary, baseless, theories, as above, and have so much to explain away in order to keep your tale afloat. I've seen nothing to indicate that Rosenstein "ordered" Mueller to do much of anything, except maybe expanding his purview -- not that we know who had that idea first.

As to the timeline, it sure sounds like Weissman was there till the bitter end and in a huff because of Barr, not Mueller. If you think Weissmann wrote & sent that "snitty letter" (asserted, but not proved of course) without Mueller's consent, you're gonna need moar dots.

JM Hanes

Beasts:

I seem to have lost mine.


Jim Eagle

CH,

As a multi-dog owner, you are my hero today:) Good job. Most dog owners never seem to care about other dogs.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

In addition to great incompetence and corruption, The Smollett case in Chicago is also about a Hate Crime. Remember, “MAGA COUNTRY DID IT!” That turned out to be a total lie, had nothing to do with “MAGA COUNTRY.” Serious stuff, and not even an apology to millions of people!
=======================
I wonder why he's bringing this up now.

Beasts of England

As we are wont to say in the South, JMHanes: you can't nail Jell-O to a tree. :)

Beasts of England

'...don't appear to be willing to consider other plausible explanations for what happened.'

You didn't present it as a plausible explanation. You presented it as a fact in your premise.

henry

Miss M, the Smollett files (set free by a judge late last week) ties the fake hate crime to Moochelle’s staff. A fine amusement that will end one branch of the Chicago swamp. Plus we haven’t seen the full impact of an Alderman wearing a wire for a year. (Ending the Burke part of the swamp so far). So might be a good idea to keep a watch in that direction.

Tom R

But a convincing enough claim could be counted on to rile up the nuts in Congress and the MSM to tarnish Trump with the claim nonetheless, and might even lead to well timed impeachment proceedings which could indeed be timed to last until the election.

Mueller did not have to get a conviction in a legal court. The Democrats/Deep State/Swamp win if Mueller gives them something that allows them to convict Trump in the court of public opinion.

The #1 way Mueller could have helped the Democrats/Deep State/Swamp was to go along with Weissman's wishes, issue a formal finding that Trump obstructed justice and then force Barr/Rosenstein to IGNORE the findings of the SC and rule that Trump did not commit OOJ or that he could not be indicted. That would have given the Democrats a gold mine and allowed them to remain on the offensive.

Instead they are in shambles and Trump is on the offensive.

bubarooni

A pileated woodpecker 'discovered' a stump in my front yard on Monday.

I've been telling my wife for about 7 years we should hire someone to get rid of it so I don't have to mow around it.

My cats, worthless consumers of cat food, are afraid of it due to it's size and let it do it's thing.

The stump is half gone now.

It let me walk within about 5 or 6 feet of it on Wednesday.

It's pretty amazing to watch it work. Grabs some kinda white worm every so often and keeps on pecking.

MissMarple2

bubarooni,

My grandparents had 120 acres in Brown County after they retired, and we used to drive down there for years. They had a regular pileated woodpecker visitor that would show up all the time.

My son (then 4) thought it was the most amazing thing he had ever seen.

Only he called it the "amalgamated woodpecker." Ha!

Captain Hate

JiB,

I couldn't live with myself if King got squashed. I'm sure you'd have done the same.

Tom R

I've seen nothing to support the idea that Mueller nixed what Weisman "wanted to do," aside from your apparent belief you have definitively divined Weissmann's intentions from Vol. II. (Now Weissmann & Dreeben! How inconvenient.)

There you go resorting to snark again. I've lost count of the times JOM posters have pointed out Weissman's history as a corrupt prosecutor. Surely you are not going to dispute that point. I didn't have to divine Weissman's intentions at all. Numerous people here have said nailing Trump with his bogus OOJ theory is exactly what Weissman was trying to do. I added Dreeben because of Rocco's article that indicate he and Weissman both support the bogus OOJ theory.

henry

Chinese Bank runs? Thread

🚨🚨🚨 Official announcement from PBOC, this might the first bank run and bank bailout by PBOC after 1979 (Chinese economic reform)

Baoshang Bank, a commercial bank with ~10k employees and over $61B total asset is facing severe credit risk and now being taken over by PBOC

https://twitter.com/doveywan/status/1131900323273019392?s=21

JM Hanes

Ignatz:

"It does support the Mueller-as-plodding-hack-who-got-where-he-is-because-of-his-junior-G-man-square-jaw-and-little-else idea though."

Only if you assume he didn't spend 2 years desperately looking for something/anything that he could even remotely hang a prosecutorial hat on and simply came up empty. He's not stupid. Who knows how much longer his investigation would have continued had AG Barr not been appointed in mid-Feb? He might also have determined that the chances of actually removing Trump from office were better via impeachment, than by attempting to bring a sitting president to trial. I can think of plenty more reasons a bona fide swamp creature (potentially including his own survival) might have for not going the boondoggle route in this instance.

In any case, the plodding hack argument is not the argument that Tom R has been making, although he may get to it.

Tom R

Beasts @ 4:53

It is 100% fact that the Mueller SC report did not invoke Weissman's bogus OOJ theory and formally conclude Trump committed OOJ.

Now give me a logical reason why Mueller did not support Weissman's wishes. Surprise me with a non-evasive answer.

Another Bob

Posted that a couple threads back Henry.

The question is, obviously, outlier or first symptom of systemic failure?

Chinese opacity will make it a mystery to us all until the balloon goes up.

clarice

Mueller not only looks like reporting for Doody, they were both tall, lantern jawed and classmates at St Paul's. Can the school live this down I wonder?

Beasts of England

'Now give me a logical reason why Mueller did not support Weissman's wishes.'

You don't know what Weissman's wishes were.

'Surprise me with a non-evasive answer.'

That was easy!!

MissMarple2

I don't know if many of you are aware of this, but there are a group of people on Twitter who are absolutely convinced that JFK Jr. is still alive, and that Trump (who actually was a good friend of his) is hiding him.

This is the strangest thing I have come across on the internet. Of course, Hillary is believed to have instigated the plane crash, as it cleared the way for her to run for senator, while he would have defeated her soundly.

This demonstrates to me the powerful pull that JFK continues to have on our public thinking. And if we think some people make up fantasies, this is a true humdinger.

Jim Eagle

We fucking beat St. Pauls in Wrestling. Frederick pinned the future CIA director in like 2 minutes.

MissMarple2

Jack,

I bet Frederick could pin the former CIA director in even less time, and I would pay to see it.

Jim Eagle

16-13 Yale up by 3. Frederick may be thinking his future but he is now committed to Crew.

Jim Eagle

Yale wins the 4Q faceoff. Strong kid. Then they score. You have to be stronger than the other guy and the Yale kid is.

lyle

The “moist owlette” from TWIP was also pretty funny.

(Anything to break this Trump Mueller Rosenstein Weissman tedium is my goal.) 😎

Jim Eagle

18-13 Yale.

I am like Rich but with Lacrosse scores:)

Captain Hate

There's always been a loon component of Kennedy worship.

Captain Hate

Go Elis!!

lyle

But I don’t get the starfish clam digger...

Jim Eagle

19-13 and Brandau again, a Freshman. He must have snuck in when the diversity director was occupied.

Jim Eagle

20-13 Brandau. Call the PC police. He is a white Christian male at Yale. Who the hell let him in?

Extraneus

Rosenstein, a good guy protecting Trump, appointed Mueller, also a good guy protecting Trump, and then ordered him to appoint Weissman, a rabid Dem partisan with a questionable and discredited obstruction theory, as his right-hand man with authority to hire the rest of the Special Counsel team, in order to get Weissman out of the way of leak investigations...

I applaud the patience of those who are still willing to engage with this type of thinking, even if it's only due to a repressed fascination with pulling the wings off of flies.

Captain Hate

Those white worms might be ant pupae, bubarooni. Pileated Woodpeckers go crazy on ant infested wood.

Jim Eagle

21-14 Yale.

JM Hanes

Tom R:

You've come to the wrong place if you're looking for a snark-free environment. Ditto if you think that number of times "JOM posters" have asserted something or what "numerous people here have said" is what passes for a cogent argument. Where did I ever suggest that I don't think Weissmann is a shark? That's neither here nor there, anyway, because successful sharks generally don't do suicidal things (literally, politically or metaphorically).

I've given you a number of answers as to why Mueller and Weissmann might have opted not to go the indictment route, which you have ignored in favor of moving along to ask someone else the same question.

Jane

OL,

Is the wedding at your house? Who is catering?

lyle

I think a post at Insty covers it all: It was actually Trump who caused the Steele dossier to be commissioned, as a poison pill that his Deep State adversaries would be unable to resist, ensuring their destruction and his eventual ascendancy.

Sounds about right to me!

Jim Eagle

JMH,

You are dealing with a confirmed believer in his narrative. No moving him off it no matter the facts. I give up since up on The Ledge, unless we see results, we don't give a shit.

Jane

""I think Mueller hired Weissman because he was ordered to by Rosenstein in order to get Weissman away from the DOJ while the crackdown on illegal leaking was going on."

I don'y know who said that, but it's the dumbest thing I've seen at JOM in20 years.

JM Hanes

OK lyle!

A little distraction in the form of traditions in other cultures which we probably do not share:

Zenkunen

An image of a legendary episode in the Zenkunen (or Former Nine Year's War). Hachimantaro Yoshiie (Minamoto no Yoshiie), foreground, is chasing his enemy, Abe no Sadato along the Koromo River after forcing him from his castle there. According to legend, the pair famously engaged in a renga or linked verse exchange during the pursuit, after which Yoshiie allowed Sadato to escape.
Talk about watching different movies!
Jim Eagle

21-17 highest scoring game in NCAA history.
to
Monday it is Yale v. Virginia. A must see.

Beasts of England

'It was actually Trump who caused the Steele dossier to be commissioned...'

And if no ones disproves that claim then it becomes an absolute fact of logic!! 😂

MissMarple2

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-motor-indy-weather-idUSKCN1SV0KC?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5ce9b78c2866ef00011c7e8f&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Thunderstorms threaten Indy 500

JM Hanes

JiB:

Not sure why I keep picking up that hammer and beating myself on the head with it. It does feel good to stop and take a seat on the verandah or the dock, or wherever it is I'm s'posed to be at this hour on a Saturday night, though.

I enjoy the sports talk, even though I have no idea what most of it is about. It sounds like fun to be rooting for a team, but I wouldn't even know where to start. Especially when I'd have to start by asking what sport it is. Field Hockey and squash were about the only sports I really loved, myself.

MissMarple2

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/25/president-trump-day-one-schedule-tokyo-japan-state-visit/#more-164194

The first day has concluded.

Beasts of England

'According to legend, the pair famously engaged in a renga or linked verse exchange during the pursuit...'

That's totally old school!! :)

JM Hanes

Ha! Beasts!

MissMarple2

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/25/president-trump-attends-reception-with-japanese-business-leaders/#more-164179

Video with complete speech.

jimmyk

"seems likely he would go ahead and charge him with obstruction. That he didn't doesn't argue that he was Trump's ally but it's a pretty good indicator he isn't a Deep State assassin either."

What he did instead was toss a bunch of red meat into the cage of the Democrat hyenas by explicitly saying that it was up to Congress to make the charge via impeachment. That’s worse than charging him, since the charge wouldn’t stick, but the House can impeach for whatever it can get 218 yes votes. I know one poster here thinks that was designed to damage the Dems, but Occam doesn’t think so.

clarice

Kinda like the Guelphs and Ghibellines where wars usually meant decking themselves and their mounts in gorgeous costumi , prancing about, taking a few jabs, declaring a winner and returning home.

JM Hanes

This photo of the Jefferson City capitol building, after the tornado swept through town, intrigued me:

JeffCityCapitol

It looks like the part that was damaged might have been new construction with something like that artifical stucco (can't remember the official name) which the storm just peeled away. What I presume are the older parts being real masonry construction look virtually untouched.

JM Hanes

Speaking of which, have we heard anything more from Joan?

Captain Hate

I think Joan and her house emerged mostly unscathed.

JM Hanes

Guelphs and Ghibellines:

proxy.duckduckgo

Old Lurker

jmh...
dryvit
thin coating over styrofoam.

henry

JMH, looks like scaffolding wrapped in weather protection to me. But I don’t really know.

Another Bob

Agree Henry, but I don’t know what a Dryvit install looks like.

henry

Aha. A refurbishing was in process.

https://capitol.mo.gov/construction/

Beasts of England

That's what a Dryvit install looks like, Another Bob - you can see the seems. I cannot imagine using that stuff on a capital building.

JM Hanes

henry:

Mystery solved! That was quick.


OL:

Yes, Dryvit is what I was thinking of. Glad to know I was wrong about the problem!

Beasts of England

Seams!! lol

Jane

I hope you are right Cpt. HOw do you know?

Another Bob

Foam under, hard coating foam over, remove outer foam?

Another Bob

And yes, on a state capitol building?

Beasts of England

It's a layer of two inch thick styrofoam (attached to the framing) covered with a thin layer (~1/4") of synthetic stucco.

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