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May 08, 2019

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Threadkiller

Tom, you can't even get the Gateway Pundit claim correct. You cannot be trusted to make a fair count.

Maybe you can list all your predictions since 2016 and I'll go back and see what my counter arguments were.

Tom R

Any takers?

https://twitter.com/actual_chaos/status/1126574865467752449?s=21

MissMarple2

Narciso79.

Great clip at 5:55.

Joe and Victoria make a few points:
1. Wray is an empty suit, who made no speech to the FBI about how things were going to change.

2. There were NO whistle blowers even though many agents should have known people were being targeted politically.

3. We need a HUGE investigation where people are held accountable.

henry

Toss it all. There is no baby in that bath water.

MissMarple2

https://web.archive.org/web/20190509103054/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html">https://web.archive.org/web/20190509103054/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html

If you can't access behind the NYT paywall, here is Daily Caller's take:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/09/facebook-chris-hughes-mark-zuckerberg/

henry

Tom R, they protest too much, and too much is hidden to conclude anything. RR is a proven snake in areas unrelated to Mueller. (See his FCPA crap). Revel in tacky clod worship all you want. I despise the weasel.

MissMarple2

https://www.wishtv.com/national/teen-who-charged-attackers-was-lone-death-in-school-shooting/1989762039?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WISH-TV

This is a highly detailed AP report about the Colorado shooting, carried by our local CBS station.

There is video plus a fairly long article in text.

MissMarple2

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-us-tariffs-trade-war-heats-up

MissMarple2

Possibly an explanation for Burr's subpoena:

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/trade/443031-new-tariffs-on-china-pose-major-risk-for-trump

Melinda

MM-

Or maybe a theme from another flank?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/laundered-money-bc-real-estate-1.5128769?cmp=rss

lyle

Drink up.

After I just slept off this morning’s bender?!?

lyle

Oh, what the hell...😎

JimNorCal

Fight back instead of shelter in place, is that an official policy?
Sounds good, don't get me wrong.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/05/an-inflection-point-on-school-shootings.php
AN INFLECTION POINT ON SCHOOL SHOOTINGS?
in a large country even a tiny number will have a disproportionate impact on the public mind—and also lead to copycats, or even a “contagion” of troubled young people deciding to enter the lists by shooting up a school.

This week’s shooting in Colorado might come to be seen as a turning point in this gruesome phenomenon for the simple reason that students, now encouraged to rush shooters and defend themselves rather than shelter passively in place and wait for police to arrive, did exactly that, and thereby surely reduced the potential carnage. It is tragic that the first student to rush one of the two shooters, Kendrick Castillo, died, but his sacrificial heroism enabled other students to gain the advantage on one of the shooters and prevent mass casualties

Extraneus

Possibly an explanation for Burr's subpoena

How does that relate to Burr?

Btw, I could see talking to Jr. if the Senate Intelligence Committee was moving on to investigating possible Russian disinfo associated with the dossier, and thinking the Veselnitskaya meeting might be worth revisiting on that basis. It's not like anyone in law enforcement has apparently taken this on.

The fact that Jr. resisted an initial request and had to be subpoenaed mitigates against this best-case scenario.

JimNorCal

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/05/chairman-xi-misreads-america.html

The attendance figures for President Trump’s El Paso rally sent a shiver of fear through Democrats: 70 percent of rally attendees were Latino, 50 percent were Democrats. This month, the McLaughlin poll shows a 50 percent jump in Trump’s approval among Hispanics.

MissMarple2


IndyStar
‏Verified account @indystar
29m29 minutes ago

2 men based in China indicted on hacking charges in massive Anthem data breach http://dlvr.it/R4PWxF

D

TomR:
JMHanes and TK are correct.
You have lost on Mueller and won’t change minds on Rosenstein.
Both have shady pasts and handled this current false investigation badly.
And that my friend is a fact.

Captain Hate

Hmmmm

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=381248

jimmyk

Tom R, I didn’t see your answer to my request for a link or cite for you claim of multiple witnesses “on record” that Rosenstein was joking about wearing a wire.

JimNorCal

Living in Portland ...
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/05/09/portlands-plan-address-homeless-people-using-street-bathroom-not-hit-neighbors/

DrJ

The ones [German cars] built before the wall came down were mostly bulletproof.

That's right, but I think you misattribute the cause.

In 1990, the year the Berlin wall came down, Lexus introduced their Mercedes clones (actually in 1989). Lexus built a quality product, but at a much lower cost.

Until Lexus, Mercedes engineered the car, and then priced it. After Lexus, they set a price point, and then did the engineering to meet it.

That was a HUGE change in culture.

So yes, Mercedes started outsourcing to locations that had lower-cost manufacturing. They had to, to drive down the price of their cars. And it was to their detriment. But it kept them alive.

BMW did the same thing. Cost point, not engineering point.

FWIW, I've only owned three cars in my life. All were/are German, with two Fords and one Mercedes. All were pre-Lexus (or unification). All were wonderful.

My current one, the 1987 Mercedes, still will last for a very, very long time.

I'm done with NSF for the day. Goodness they work us hard!

Captain Hate

Mueller's report was a joke from the very start. It states, as fact, that Russians hacked the DNC, phished Podesta (as only a government entity could pull off such a complicated process) and affected the election with $100,000 of FarceBook ads. AS FACT.

I was laughing before I even finished the first page.

And Barr has not really countered any of this obvious bullshit. I'm not sure why, but he's let it all hang out there without mentioning what an obvious raft of shit it is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2019 06:59 PM (P/i/D)

MissMarple2

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-shuts-dark-web-drug-directory-arrests-alleged-owners-n1003451

One wonders how much of this dark money went to democrats (or GOPe, for that matter).

Extraneus

From the Captain's link:

Open an investigation in McCabe, Yates, Comey, and Lynch.

Let's see how many process crimes we can convict them of.

Heh.

Another Bob

People.

It’s become clear to me that we have a new troll.

Can we all stop feeding it for a while?

MissMarple2

"Something is going on, very strange, in the House Judiciary Committee," says @RepMattGaetz.

"…they're so flummoxed with the lack of underlying facts to support what they've been saying to the American people for the last two years."

🇺🇸 Full interview: https://t.co/vCXvBdmcUj pic.twitter.com/rmt9YGn05s

— The Epoch Times (@EpochTimes) May 9, 2019

Clip plus full video at links.

Extraneus

Yes, Bob.

Sadly, Tom reacted to setbacks to his pet theory by digging in and taking on the persona of a troll. He didn't start out that way, but at the same time he never backed off into a learning mode when encountering people more savvy, learned or logical than himself, even when they were nice enough to note the issues in Latin.

I don't have enough years left to waste on this kind of immature and poorly reasoned trolling, so don't be surprised if I don't respond to his comments anymore.

Sorry, Tom, I no longer find your comments worth reading. Goodbye.

Beasts of England

'...they were nice enough to note the issues in Latin.'

Latin scholars can be obnoxious at times... 🤓

MissMarple2

Very interesting thread about Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller, and President Trump. Details events and quotes.

I am not taking a position, but it does provide some evidence supporting Rosenstein. Not sure if that is correct or simply coincidental.

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1126632437474217985

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

Donald J. Trump Retweeted Secretary Alex Azar

Great news today: My Administration just secured a historic donation of HIV prevention drugs from Gilead to help expand access to PrEP for the uninsured and those at risk. Will help us achieve our goal of ending the HIV epidemic in America!

=================================

Acosta's tweet:


Secretary Alex Azar
‏Verified account @SecAzar

I’m pleased to announce that as a result of discussions between the Trump Administration and Gilead Sciences, Inc., Gilead has agreed to make a historic donation of #HIV prevention medication for up to 200,000 individuals each year for up to 11 years.

MissMarple2


Today, it was my honor to welcome the 2018 World Series Champion Boston @RedSox to the @WhiteHouse! pic.twitter.com/yHAClpttLM

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2019

Video at the link.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
57m57 minutes ago

House Republicans should not vote for the BAD DEMOCRAT Disaster Supplemental Bill which hurts our States, Farmers & Border Security. Up for vote tomorrow. We want to do much better than this. All sides keep working and send a good BILL for immediate signing!

henry

Conveniently ignores Rosenstein ‘s “oversight” of Mueller including approval of Mueller’s budgets and outside contractor spending. (Suspected to be Steele / Fusion GPS?) One of many hidden things that make lauding RR premature.

(And still tacky even if earned).

MissMarple2

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/nancy-pelosis-meeting-with-msnbc-host-al-sharpton-raises-eyebrows?dg

Melinda

Art Pepper Blue Mitchell, the Dolo Coker Sessions, Jumping Jacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1adP_dhbfg

JM Hanes

Another Bob:

You're perfectly free to ignore Tom R, if you like, just as I feel perfectly free to engage him. As frustrating as that may be, I really don't think it's fair to call him a troll.

Another Bob

Ext, to Tom’s benefit, he’s shown some signs of some breadth in knowledge and personality.

Perhaps if he weren’t such a one-note? Perhaps a self-imposed moratorium on Trump 4D?

MissMarple2

henry,

Good points.

I posted it because there was iforkation on that thread I didn't know.

But not all information is on that thread, as you point out.

Solving this entire mess is going to have to take a lot of people and public testimonies.

MissMarple2

inforkation should be INFORMATION

JM Hanes

henry:

I suspect that if Barr hadn't come on the scene, Mueller's probe would still be in business.

Another Bob

JMH, not telling anyone what to do. (As if I could.)

We’ll agree to disagree on this. And violently agree on far more things ;)

Tom R

Sadly, Tom reacted to setbacks to his pet theory by digging in and taking on the persona of a troll.

Only in Bizarro world is Mueller’s exoneration of Trump colluding with the Russians considered a setback to my pet theory.

clarice

So an outfit checked my DNA and says I'm much less agreeable (genetically) and much less likely to be neurotic.do those things go together?

Melinda

Perfectly amenable to us members of the GET OFF MY LAWN CLUB.

henry

Clarice, did they reference the same gene alleles? The stuff Ancestry sends me always does. (Apparently I score high cholesterol genetically, but not in blood tests).

Tom R

Henry @ 8:09

I didn’t comment on the article speculating on Mueller’s budget due to all the “may have” conditionals. If it turns out to be true, that demonstrates complete stupidity on Mueller’s part because that info becoming public makes it much easier for Trump to promote the witch hunt narrative. Mueller should have relied on his fellow Deep State evildoers to pay for the contract work so no one would ever find out.

Melinda

Ben E King

Supernatural Thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQcgJ8LuFM

Another Bob

Clarice, most people disagree with the suggestion they’re neurotic.

JM Hanes

Another Bob:

You asked, I answered. We're good. :-)

MissMarple2


Reuters Top News
‏Verified account @Reuters
13s13 seconds ago

Trade frictions raise questions about China's fentanyl promise https://reut.rs/2YmkJkm

clarice

Henry,
They checked the 23 and me stuff. I didn't seek or sign up for the full study Genomics did.. I mean when they said I was genetically likely to be less agreeable!!

lyle

Mueller’s exoneration of Trump

Against my better judgment and as scrupulous as I’ve been to stay out of this fucking miasma, this statement is precisely the opposite of what Big Bob did. He dripped the entire report with innuendo and bullshit but he explicitly DID NOT exonerate Trump and instead flipped the entire pile of dung back on Congress to determine exoneration or not. Gah.

JM Hanes

Agreeability is overrated, clarice!

Melinda

This sure looks like it's entirely the Governor of Michigan's fault:

https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/05/flint-mayor-asked-city-employees-to-divert-donations-to-her-nonprofit-witness-testifies.html

Another Bob

Obvious to anyone paying attention Lyle.

Narciso79


Well you were the perfect host when we met in dc, agita only directed to who deserve it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0607/S00040/intelligence-nzs-tomlinson-draws-mi6-wrath-again.htm

Unlike the story in skyfall, the Brits are unusually lenient with their leakers

Narciso79

That's the fellow that ended Steele's career at mi 6,

MissMarple2


Mark Meadows
‏Verified account @RepMarkMeadows
8h8 hours ago

Serving a subpoena to Don Trump Jr.—a private citizen who voluntarily testified before 3 Congressional committees for 25+ hours—is beyond inappropriate. He answered questions and was cleared in the Mueller report after a 2 year, unlimited investigation.

It's over. Let it go.
===============================
Meadows and Jordan are doing a stand-up job.

henry

Clarice, the ancestry is rolling out new “traits” results. Gee you can smell asparagus when you pee. Hint, I knew that. You have the gene for red hair. Hint, mirror says yes. Best comedy available these days.

MissMarple2


Victoria Toensing
‏ @VicToensing

Once again @judgenap errs. Inaccurately claims US v Nixon applies to Barr subpoena. No. Nixon court held where there is a CRIMINAL TRIAL and evidence is material White House must turn over. No criminal trial here. #maga2020

clarice

You bet it is, jmh!
For some reason I can't open this, but it is another political case Jus=dge Mehta ruled on:https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2018/01/04/trump-dossier-tweets-judge-ruling-326137

anonamom

Hear, hear!

People.

It’s become clear to me that we have a new troll.

Can we all stop feeding it for a while?

Posted by: Another Bob

Please--have mercy.
Save your breath and key strokes.
Life is too short to subject us to any more of this insanity.

Tom R

Lyle @ 8:33

Trump disagrees with you.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1109918388133023744?s=21

lyle

No mas.

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/CoryGroshek/status/1126650311819649030

Discussion of Coomey's townhall.

clarice

Here's another report on the older Mehta ruling and it appears sound:https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/5/donald-trumps-tweets-slamming-steele-dossier-dont-/

Tom R

BTW I am scratching my head trying to figure out how all the people here who are more savvy, learned and logical than me believe the obstruction of justice portion of the Mueller report will hurt Trump in any way. You would think the stupidity and dishonesty displayed by the Democrats in Congress since the Mueller report was released would have been enough evidence for those more savvy, learned and logical than me to figure that out.

lyle

My obiter dictum for the evening:

Tom R is emphatically not a troll.

Beasts of England

'Serving a subpoena to Don Trump Jr.—a private citizen who voluntarily testified before 3 Congressional committees for 25+ hours—is beyond inappropriate. He answered questions and was cleared in the Mueller report after a 2 year, unlimited investigation.'

All part of the bigger scheme, I'm sure... 🙄

henry

Wow. More spin than an F-eleventy tornado:

@DawsonSField

You have to remember that Mueller became a target of the coup in June 2017. The claim was that he was the Deep State cover up guy & he was going to cover up that Comey helped Trump & the Russians rig the election. So if he stopped his team, he was obstructing the investigation.

https://twitter.com/dawsonsfield/status/1126561870599598080?s=21

JM Hanes

clarice:

I made you a tiny url for the Politico article which might help you access it:

https://tinyurl.com/y9qyys33

If not, I'm relieved to report that the decision described therein seemed pretty sensible to me, but who knows? Court is a crapshoot. Trump's lasting legacy may be all those district court judges he has managed to appoint.

Threadkiller

And I am not scratching my head as to why you have twice ignored jimmy's questions about your sources.

MJW

You would think the stupidity and dishonesty displayed by the Democrats in Congress since the Mueller report was released would have been enough evidence for those more savvy, learned and logical than me to figure that out.

Again with the give-them-enough-rope tripe? Any criticism of Trump by Mueller will cause the Democrats to behave in a way we'd consider stupid. So what you're saying is that if Mueller says something positive about Trump, or negative about Trump, it shows he's on Trump's side, either by defending him, or by making the Democrats act foolishly. Heads you win, tails we lose.

clarice

Thnx, JMH--it's still inaccessible. It's an older article and maybe the link no longer is operable.

I realize it's probably genetic, but I'm getting very disagreeable about all this continuing folderol from Congress and the dems. enough already! (But then, I'm probably not neurotic which is why I'm not a dem in the first place.)

Beasts of England

That tweet almost sounded like English, henry!! 😂

JM Hanes

MJW:

It's a little like arguing with a global warming believer.

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1126556853373108225

Thread on Sessions' farewell ceremony.

JM Hanes

It opened for me, clarice, using either URL. Perhpas a quick cookie clearing might help, in case Politico has a limit on the number of articles you can read iin any given time period.

Tom R

TK @ 9:03

People ignore questions from me all the time. Should I assume something negative about them?

When I find the link I will answer him.

henry

@TheChiIIum

Chelsea Manning has been released from prison after 62 days for refusing to testify to a grand jury about #WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange.

MissMarple2

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1126630354607955970.html

Larry Schweikhart breaks down voter registration and it seems pretty positive.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

If all of we iron headed mules, impervious to counterarguments were trolls deserving a hush, I'd say things would be pretty quiet around here.

And just a quick notation that the truth seems to be somewhere in the middle, as usual. Mueller, if as black hatted as some presume could have made the report far more injurious to Trump.
OTOH, were his chapeau a whiter shade of pale it would have been much more clear cut in exonerating Trump, especially as regards obstruction.
The last thing a responsible prosecutor should ever do is find insufficient evidence of a crime to prosecute but leave a cloud hanging over the subject, especially in a case like this of national and international import, rather than some local gangster they couldn't pin something on.

Catsmeat

Re the Louisiana parishes, I remember them chiefly because they figure in the Emancipation Proclamation--Lincoln lists those which are under Union control so as to make plain that slavery can continue in these places!

Ext, that horrific plan out of Microsoft is Stalinist! For instance, "fresh blood" is a great phrase--will be sorry to have it expunged (as will vampire aficionados--I am NOT one of these).

Threadkiller

That Zoe thread had a nice mix, MM. There were people thinking that RR was a White hat the whole time and others who think he cut a deal to become a white hat.

Nobody is praising Mueller though.

Narciso79

As Stephen McIntyre pointed out they had to bend and spindle section 1030 to convict Bradley and it was a close call a publisher like Assange never gets caught in the net, the travails of Tomlinson above are on point, and that's because they have the official secrets act over there.

MissMarple2

https://www.theepochtimes.com/psychologist-calls-sex-ed-changes-in-california-public-schools-horrific_2912811.html

Narciso79

He ultimately couldn't charge hatfill the case against the AIPAC exec's fell apart, and so on, I dont cut him any slack till the official apology goes out.

Tom R

Trolling is fun

https://twitter.com/jeffderiso/status/1126559666799108096?s=21

MissMarple2

Threadkiller,

I try to post stuff which makes people think.

I am so overwhelmed with so many people and pieces of information that I cannot take sides, so I just post things to make people weigh evidence.

Dave (in MA)

Beer news:
https://twitter.com/dogfishbeer/status/1126590242239201280

JM Hanes

What really irritates me about spell checking on the internet is that a proper noun without a capital letter is now flagged as a spelling error. I know the rules, but when I'm typing a search string, that one is irrelevant, and the redlining means a pointless detour to do the spell checking myself.

Threadkiller

People ignore questions from me all the time. Should I assume something negative about them?

Style questions? Now?

Better late thans never. I recommend you kick your negative comments to the curb and try something like "jimmy, I am looking for the link. As soon as I find it, I will post it. Thanks!"

Doesn't that sound better than the "Have a MAGA day?"

MissMarple2


Reuters Top News
‏Verified account @Reuters
13s13 seconds ago

Accused California synagogue shooter charged with federal hate crimes http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-hate-idUSKCN1SF2FT?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5cd4d308df4239000111fee6&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

MissMarple2

Crud, I lost internet connection due to thunderstorms moving through.

Narciso79

I was listening to Dana loesch and she has trepidation over Hughes plan, considering what he did to the new republic.

Another Bob

“iron headed mules, impervious to counterarguments“

More to it than that Ig and I suspect you know that.

Tom R

Iggy @ 9:14

Well said,

I’ve read countless points from people here, Constitutional law professors, pundits, politicians, you name it about what a responsible prosecutor should or should not do. Several people here who Extraneus believes are more savvy, learned and logical than me have pointed out it’s not a prosecutors job to prove innocence.

Here’s the thing though. How many times in US history has the POTUS been accused by the opposition party of being a traitor to his country and under the control of one of our foreign adversaries? I’m certain TK will rush in to correct me if I’m wrong but I think the answer is a big fat 0.

My unsavvy, ignorant and illogical opinion is that the rules of what a responsible prosecutor should or should not do don’t apply to this obviously unique crisis in US history. To resolve the crisis Trump needed Mueller to prove he was innocent of the Democrat allegations of colluding with Russia were false. That is exactly what Mueller did.

Threadkiller

I only correct you when you are wrong, Tom.

JM Hanes

Just found these links I meant to post during the hawk discussion. Since they were already formatted:

Birds with head cams: a peregrine diving and then a goshawk flying through the woods. Yike.

Around the 1:36 mark on this video, there's an amazing sequence of a Peregrine going after a group of Pelicans!

Tom R

I recommend you kick your negative comments to the curb

That is good advice you should adopt for yourself. Can you refrain from posting daily nonstop snark?

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