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May 08, 2019

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Old Lurker

When I was getting my MBA, three other students headed for commercial real estate asked for and got permission to take the Law School's second year course in Real Estate & Taxation. (Still being taught by the same professor who had taught my Dad that same class twenty years prior.)

The most important takeaway Life Lesson we got was "Any Tax Deferred is a Tax Reduced".

Meeting at our 40th reunion, the four of us compared notes on who among us had produced anything but Tax Losses since we left school.

The guy with the most losses had the biggest houses and biggest boats (and most marriages, but that's a different story).

Threadkiller

...confirmation bias...


::drink::

henry

Narciso, the Japanese also designed an “unsinkable“ battleship. That didn’t work as intended either.

Captain Hate

Tom,

It's heartening to find some areas of universal agreement.

Beasts of England

'Meeting at our 40th reunion, the four of us compared notes on who among us had produced anything but Tax Losses since we left school.'

Brother, can you spare a deduction? ;)

jimmyk

Somehow there's a new AOC parody account.

https://twitter.com/AOCoffice

and a website associated with it:

http://www.dabossofallpeople.com/

I presume Twitter will shut it down stat.

Narciso79

The yamato wasnt it;

https://spectator.org/is-ilhan-omar-a-communist/

Old Lurker

Beasts, sadly the tax law changes in 1986-87 made it much harder to share good deductions.

Now, if you could convince Mrs. OL to go along, you could marry me then we could file joint returns.

Not that there would be anything wrong with that.

:-)

jimmyk

Has the NYT solicited accountants to scour Trump's taxes the way they (or maybe it was WaPo) did with Sarah's e-mails? I presume that's the reason for the leak. Just a big treasure hunt for stuff to try to embarrass Trump. They'll learn the hard way that no one gives a damn, except for people who are already afflicted with terminal TDS.

Narciso79

They apparently do believe in magic beans

Beasts of England

lol, OL!! :)

Narciso79

Oh that's interesting;


https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/08/lawsuit-environmental-honor-earth/

Narciso79

I guess this will go down the memory hole:.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1126161344514985989

Jane

Wray is an Obama appointee.

That bar complaint is creepy, but even if disbarred, Gaetz can stay in Congress. Hell Clinton was disbarred while president.

Beasts of England

It's certainly not confirmation bias noting that the wives of Barr and Mueller teach Sunday School together.

Jane

Neo they were both "Trump haters" too.

MissMarple2

I am off to the grocery.

This is one of my least favorite errands.

GUS

Transgender. Becoming MALE. Stem...........school.

It writes itself.

D

Rocco:
Yes he did.
I don’t like or trust Wray.
He said he would provide new training and protocols for FBI personnel and I have yet to see that come to fruition.
I trust Margot Cleveland and her knowledge more than TomR’s musings.

Narciso79

Um he was appointed in 17, he was Chris Christie's lawyer in bridgegate.

Jim Eagle

This whole charade of collusion, Russia, obstruction, etc. reminds me that Jim Messina warned all of us why this would happen: "so others like him may never rise again". Or something like that.

Jane

The NY Times posted those same tax returns years ago. The real funny part is congress makes up the tax laws. They should be looking at themselves.

Tom R

CH @ 12:51

Agreed. I’m looking forward to seeing if more people come to the same perception you and I share on Rosenstein.

Much of the public perception towards Rosenstein by Trump supporters has been negatively influenced by pundits like Jim Hoft. I would really like to know how much money he has made from his blog. I’m certain it’s really nice knowing you can make decent money while not having to worry about being accurate.

D

Jane:
Gaetz is proTrump and therefore must be destroyed.So glad you like your new tv, wrinkles and all!
Jimmyk:
Did you have a nice birthday?

Melinda

JiB-

That was Plouffe.

D

Narciso:
He did a good job in Bridgegate.

Captain Hate

Hell Clinton was disbarred while president.

God knows how the profession survived the loss of the wisdom of Learned Gland.

Melinda

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/18/reminder-david-plouffe-trump-must-be-destroyed/comment-page-1/

And has since pulled it.

Melinda

Which is referred to as a "Cite", FTSAH.

Narciso79

So gaetz gets referred, gillum gets a slap o. The wrist for a 2 million dollar contact bought with a few Hamilton tickets you see the difference.

D

“More people come to the same conclusion you and I did on Rosenstein”
Not a chance.
Any way the wind blows.
That is a Rosenstein.
I still need an answer on his sign off on a flawed FISA warrant.
And no it wasn’t to go after the dossier and Clinton.

Tom R

Beasts @ 1:07

You are correct. Their relationship as friends as well as Sunday school teachers is a known fact for people to use when making inferences.

D

Narciso:
One is a repub the other a Dem.
It is how our unfair justice system now works.

Beasts of England

Those inferences, in your case, Tom R, amount to confirmation bias.

Threadkiller

Somehow Hoft is the most frequently linked pundit on this blog which has me scratching my head trying to figure out why.

I don't know about "most frequently linked pundit," but I assume you checked before you posted that stat.

I also agree that Hoft can be quite loony, but what does your particular invective tell us about Trump? Trump has retweeted Gateway Pundit many times. I don't believe any individual sleuther has had it so good from DJT.

Threadkiller

...confirmation bias...

::drink::

Captain Hate

Without being a tax expert, I'd imagine the tax returns of most Congress critters would be fairly boring. They don't make anything other than hot air. I assume all their payoffs get laundered through PACs, which are separate entities for tax purposes. I likewise assume their investments have to be in blind trusts of varying degrees of legality. Maybe Mel knows more of the ins and outs of this; and no, that wasn't a reference to the sexual harassment slush fund, perverts.

That's assuming they even file; a larger than you'd expect number of local officials, almost exclusively AAs, produce headlines for not submitting tax returns for years.

Threadkiller

A caller to Limbaugh was concerned about a dem congressmen who was pointed out that Comey, Rosenstein, and Mueller are Republicans. He always thought those clowns were dems.

Rush explained that they were indeed republicans but of the NeverTrump variety and that they were dedicated to getting Trump.

I guess he really didn't come around to the Kabuki way of thinking.

Melinda

It's the "Sudden Ownership" filings that amuse me. I believe the financial filings of the serially re-elected only have to be updated either every five or ten years. They run on old filings forever.

Narciso79

The crimethink gets thick:

https://www.steynonline.com/9369/the-post-free-speech-world

Tom R

Beasts @ 1:21

Only to reinforce my belief Barr was telling the truth when he said he and Mueller are personal friends.

Melinda

I think you're misusing Kabuki when you perhaps should be using "Noh".

All I know is that I'm watching someone else's game where I don't even know all the rules. A bit like M*A*S*H*'s "Smack" game in The Swamp*.

*Involves cards, chess pieces, and checkers, all on a Monopoly board, rules are random, but ALL must drink.

Beasts of England

'Sudden Ownership' would be a great name for a band!!

Jim Eagle

Mel,

Thanks for that correction. It was between Plouffe and Messina and I decided to take the guy who writes on his hands:)

Beasts of England

'Only to reinforce my belief Barr was telling the truth when he said he and Mueller are personal friends.'

So, uh, more confirmation bias. Thanks!!

lyle

Plouffe and Messina are both wankers.

Narciso79

It's more like fizbin, yes mussina looks like the creepy henchman in diamonds are forever (who was advising the tories) and Plouffe knows to cash checks from south African firms working with zte.

Threadkiller

The beauty of Kabuki is how universally it can be applied.

Melinda

But less so than "Noh".

Threadkiller

...confirmation bias...

::drink::

Melinda

Differences matter:

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-Noh-theater-and-Kabuki-theater

Tom R

Melinda @ 1:34

TK ridicules kabuki as a way to engage in a proxy ad hominem without addressing me directly because he knows I use the term to describe when I think Trump is engaging in deception.

Beasts of England

But seriously, Tom R - we all have confirmation biases. We see it every day here in the comments. It's especially prevalent when we don't have much empirical data from which to argue. I'm trying to suggest that we not throw stones in that regard...

Old Lurker

Don't be drivin later today, TK.

Jim Eagle

Plouffe is now a Zuckerbergian.

lyle,

Messina is from your neck of the woods. Raised in Boise and graduated Boise High School.

Tom R

Beasts @ 1:42

I fully agree and have always acknowledged when it’s kicking in for me.

Instead of suggesting I not use the term, perhaps you can explain to Maryrose why I used the term in my responses to her.

rse

Oh, neo, if only that stem academy had a positive school climate mandate and promoted social and emotional learning as on par with academic project-based learning.

I am being snarky as that is precisely what the charter pushes. Colorado is where the mcrel ed lab is which has made CO ground zero for what is called second order change going back to the original Achieving Excellence project in the mid-80s that became implicated in columbine a decade later.

Threadkiller

Don't be drivin later today, TK.

Haha!

Old Lurker

Just read it:

https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/want-make-money-work-government

Then tell me again why government workers are not going to be the end of us?

rse

Out of curiosity I checked the distance between mcrel ed lab and highlands ranch stem academy and it is about 10 miles as this link shows. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/McREL+International,+Dtc+Boulevard,+Denver,+CO/Highlands+Ranch,+CO/@39.5863207,-104.9577677,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x876c8700ed88795f:0x3b9e64db8967c329!2m2!1d-104.8939458!2d39.632898!1m5!1m1!1s0x876c82f082d15d0b:0x11f163cd6b8cdb49!2m2!1d-104.9739333!2d39.5480789

Fascinating though is that columbine high also appears in same image to the left.

rse

https://www.stemk12.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=737769&type=d&pREC_ID=1153104

"Welcome to STEM School Highlands Ranch. We are an innovative, free, public, charter learning community that exists to innovate K-12 education in order to prepare every student to lead change, solve problems and succeed in an exponentially changing world.

We are more than a school. We are a think tank, a learning lab and a catalyst for creativity. We are a haven for continual innovation, creative exploration, and rigorous discovery. We defy definition and break with convention. Because that’s what innovators do.

We see school differently. Although our curriculum has a college preparatory focus with emphasis on developing core liberal arts skills in reading, writing, mathematics and science, we use creativity, problem-solving and innovation to inspire and challenge our students.

We are more than just STEM. We infuse STEM into all classrooms. We challenge students with STEM-based, real-world problem solving fueled by constant exploration, inquiry and discovery.

We foster innovation. We equip every student, every day in every classroom with the knowledge, skills, confidence and character to thrive in a constantly changing world. By using continuous inquiry, constant discovery and trial and error as critical pathways to new discoveries, we create a culture of safe failure and fearless innovation.

We empower students. We put students in the driver’s seat of their learning, engaging and empowering them to push their own unique boundaries of innovative learning, thinking and doing.

We see teachers as catalysts. Here, teachers are role models and innovation coaches who provide the framework for learning. Our teachers are experts in teaching appropriate use of technology, collaboration, and teamwork that sparks interest in STEM and learning at an early age.

We innovate and learn together. Here, we leverage the power of collaboration, teamwork and group think to build, design and create solutions to real world problems.

We’re fostering tomorrow’s innovators, creators and change agents. We work tirelessly to nurture and develop integrity, respect, responsibility and honesty within our students and take pride in encouraging well-rounded student development. Link here for some of our notable student accomplishments over the last school year."

jimmyk

Another hero:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1126159344574377984

After first reading about the UNC hero who gave his life jumping the shooter there, I see that this kid did the same:


Breaking911
‏ @Breaking911

Kendrick Castillo, 18, is hero killed in Colorado school shooting:

A student witness said, “Kendrick lunged at him, and he shot Kendrick, giving all of us enough time to get underneath our desks, to get ourselves safe, and to run across the room to escape.”

Beasts of England

I guess we're on different wavelengths, Tom R. And it would take far too many paragraphs to explain the delta than it's worth...

rse

I can't tell you how cutting-edge transformational you have to be to be getting awards from the oecd. https://yourhub.denverpost.com/blog/2017/12/stem-school-highlands-ranch-among-30-schools-honored-in-boston-at-international-world-leading-learners-convention/204298/

sbwaters

rse, next time, in an emergency, I won’t need syrup of ipecac.

Extraneus

The fact that Barr called Mueller a "friend" is a useless fact. People in guilds, such as those in Congress, Hollywood, the media, and elsewhere, regularly use the term to describe colleagues. Unless they're seen going hunting and bowling together, just the two of them, the fact that two work colleagues who go to the same church call themselves "friends" is virtually meaningless.

"Would you call your co-worker of 20 years a 'friend'?"

"Absolutely, your honor, although I never liked the sunofabitch."

rse

This says it was to be a national template for a new kind of high school.

Down the road, the school's administrators hope to see the project-based learning model of STEM School Highlands Ranch — called the flagship school — replicated locally and nationally to “create a new generation of public school students who are engaged and in charge of their learning,” Eucker said.

https://highlandsranchherald.net/stories/highlands-ranch-charter-school-gets-name-change,252889

rse

That is enough on what is a tragedy, but I have warned before this template is most common at cutting edge schools and my guess is few would know the search terms I just used to pull out those links as google is developing censoring typical searches.

Jane

"Fascinating though is that columbine high also appears in same image to the left."

Someone interviewed a mother and son last night. The mother's son and daughter were both at the school during the shooting. The mother went to HS at Columbine in the '90's.

Narciso79

Cant let them figure which is a reaver training center,

Jane

Are you guys dissing "STEM" schools? In MA that is where the smart kids - actually brilliant kids, go. Very hard to get in. 90% Asian.

Extraneus

Oh no, Gateway Pundit...

Mitch McConnell’s Campaign Selling ‘Cocaine Mitch’ Shirts

The Cocaine Mitch meme was born in 2018 when Don Blankenship used the name during his campaign against McConnell. It was based on packages of cocaine being found on a ship owned by the father of Elaine Chao, the senator’s wife.

Instead of getting upset about the name, McConnell ran with it, even using it to taunt Blankenship following his loss.

(Click to open.)

Melinda

Jane-

The Ed Borg have once again changed the definition so as to own the the product.

Jim Eagle

Oh, goody!

3 more Star War movies for 2022, 2024 and 2026 Christmas seasons. That is assuming we will still be celebrating Christmas then.

Jim Eagle

The link with trailer:

https://www.space.com/three-more-star-wars-movies-announced.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190508-sdc

Jane

Well I'm sticking with the original. Cause I'm proud of my STEM girl.

Narciso79

This is what they meant bu a 1,000 years of suffering in a sarlaac pit, there Is a kingsman prequel next year though with Ralph Fiennes

Tom R

Beasts @ 2:01

I think almost all the regular posters here at JOM are on the MAGA team but we are all on different wavelengths when it comes to interpreting all of the known Spygate information. IMO the main reason for so many different opinions is the sad state of journalism that has caused people to start relying more and more on pundits for their (mis)information.

Did you read Rosenstein’s recent speech where he warned about relying on pundits for your information? I think the intended audience for his message were Trump supporters. I know for myself I don’t trust
any of the networks news or newspapers to report the facts objectively. Cable news talk show hosts, radio personalities and bloggers all engage in highly partisan punditry to make money.

That is one reason why I have started relying more on people like Jeff Carlson for information. My perception of him is that he is an investigative reporter who has documented all the known facts about Spygate. I don’t think there is anyone who has a more accurate timeline with full citations than Carlson. When Carlson does express an opinion, I put significantly more weight on his opinion than someone like Jim Hoft or Sundance. Carlson has gained my respect due to his reporting of the facts while pundits like Hoft and Sundance have lost my respect.

Tom R

I enjoyed Rogue One and Solo. I thought The Last Jedi sucked. If Disney can stop trying to inject SJW politics into the story and just write an exciting sci-fi story then I will watch as many Star Wars movies as they make.

Threadkiller

Sleuthers are not "pundits," ergo they don't deal in misinformation.

Jim Eagle

Human oil pipeline from Iran to Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/Shiffa_ZY/status/1125924109311991808

Extraneus

Sen. Whitehouse Speaks Out Against ‘Dark Money’—At An Event Funded By Dark Money

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.) spoke Wednesday on the dangers of ‘dark money' groups funding Congress, at an event funded by the Center For American Progress and the American Constitution Society—both of which funnel anonymous donations to Democratic candidates.

During his talk, titled, "The Supreme Corp: How Corporate and Right-Wing Interests Captured The U.S. Supreme Court," Whitehouse accused right-wing institutions of securing favorable court decisions by propping up potential appointees to District Courts and the Supreme Court with dark money.

"Big Republican donor interests are at work all around the court, and much of their work is hidden from the public. We must shed light here," he said. "The big influencers are hiding behind dark money channels and a lot of transparency is needed."

CAP recently published a review by Whitehouse outlining 73 Supreme Court decisions in which the Rhode Island senator makes the case that the court unfairly decided in favor of Republican interests.

CAP was founded in 2003 by Hillary Clinton ally John Podesta as a left-wing policy think-tank, and is funded in part by the New Venture Fund, a dark money group founded by former President Bill Clinton appointee Eric Kessler. The New Venture Fund gave CAP between $100,000 and $499,999 in 2018, according to CAP's website.

Along with ACS, CAP has also been funded by Democracy Alliance, the largest Democratic dark money group. Since billionaire George Soros founded it in 2005, Democracy Alliance has invested $1.83 billion in various progressive causes. Its influence covers more than 150 left-wing organizations, including Media Matters for America, and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. It has also helped fund the growing anti-Trump movement, aiding smaller groups such as the Center for Popular Democracy, Center for Community Change, and Swing Left.

MissMarple2

Well, I am home and saved $7.00 on a $^&.00 order with coupons, so yay-me!


I enjoyed hearing Rush mock the news media on the rehashed tax story. (Poor radio reception hre, so mostly I hear Rush in the car.)

Beasts of England

I don't put any weight at all on Sundance's analyses, Tom R, and I rarely read Hoft. As I mentioned before, there is a significant lack of data regarding Spygate - period. I think on this particular topic, people are not necessarily relying on the opinions of pundits, but trying to assess the reasonableness of their necessarily speculative arguments.

MissMarple2

On a $67.00 order.

Narciso79

I didnt see solo, the last jedi was probably the last straw,

fdcol63 🇺🇸

"Are you guys dissing "STEM" schools? In MA that is where the smart kids - actually brilliant kids, go. Very hard to get in. 90% Asian."

I accidentally got on the FSU-FAMU College of Engineering shuttle back in 1990 (instead of the regular campus shuttle).

The driver was African-American, I was white, and EVERYONE ELSE looked Asian.

Wrong bus!

Tom R

You are accidently correct TK. The Twitter Sleuthers are not making money for expressing their opinions. They are just connecting the dots with the same public information JOM posters have. The difference between the Sleuthers and JOM posters like you and me is they spend a LOT more time researching and providing citations to back up their opinion. That is one reason I consider your frequent attempts to ridicule them extremely lame on your part.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

Our Nation grieves at the unspeakable violence that took a precious young life and badly injured others in Colorado. God be with the families and thank you to the First Responders for bravely intervening. We are in close contact with Law Enforcement.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

When seconds count, police are just minutes away.

Melinda

Connecting the dots is what ONR does very well. They call it Dynamic Programming.

And no it's not software. It's a web of choices.

Extraneus

Horowitz Suspended from Twitter TWICE in Two Days

Horowitz was banned previously for his “abusive behavior.” In a message to Dave Rubin, host of the Rubin Report, Horowitz said that a response to a tweet to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) caused his suspension. He replied to a tweet where Omar blamed Israel “for the 700 Hamas/Iranian rockets fired on civilians in Israel and called on the U.S. to withdraw its support for Israel.”

According to Horowitz, “My offending comment then followed: Oh, and then we can get on with killing Jews. This was deemed a hateful comment against an individual although actually it wasn’t.”

Horowitz “protested” his suspension, and received a response from Twitter that it was “a mistake.” Horowitz wrote that he didn’t “believe it was a glitch.”

Horowitz had his account restored, but had lost all of his followers. He then reached 100,000 followers before losing his account for “hate speech.”

Twitter has been more active in suspending conservatives. The attack has reached a fever pitch, with an Alexandria Ocasio Cortez parody account being suspended “permanently,” actor James Woods receiving a second ban, and OANN’s Jack Posobiec’s account tracking MAGAphobia receiving a ban as well.

MissMarple2

Thank you @NewtGingrich & @FoxandFriends! pic.twitter.com/GYJ7U2k7nn

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 8, 2019

Link goes to 5-minute video with Newt Gingrich talking about the NYT tax story and how one-sided it is.

Narciso79

The powers that be dont give a farthing about due process or the law, in fact the more pain they inflict as the lesson the better.

When the entire intelligence archive is spirited to Pakistan they avoid any accountability same with anything Monica witte gave to the sepah pasdaran.

Threadkiller

The idea that Sessions met with Comey in the Whitehouse prior to his awards ceremony is an example of the fine dot connecting.

sbwaters

Jane: Are you guys dissing "STEM" schools?

Yup. Long have argued for “STEMS” instead, with the last “S” for Society.

You can have the best technical education in the world and it will be useless in a society that is not both stable and dynamic.

Melinda

narc-

Did you see this yesterday?

http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3874/Do-These-Items-Connect.aspx#.XNMjrzGagD4.twitter

Narciso79

No I hadn't seem that particular detail.

Abadman

I'm not sure why the assumption Barr and Muller are friends is important.

I am friends with some Doctors I'd never let operate on a family member.

I'm sure this is some sort of category error

D

The sleuth people on Twitter are not reliable in my opinion.
I listen to Atkinsson, Sara Carter, Kim Strassel and Mollie Hemingway when I try to make sense of all this.
Their take on the major players seems reasonable to me.Carlson is just spitballing in my opinion.
Catherine Herridge deals in facts.

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