When Is A Flip-Flop Not A Flip-Flop

I always thought McConnell was quite clear that his refusal to give Garland a hearing was based on a principle of non-cooperation with the other party in an election year. A principle articulated by Joe Biden in 1992.

I need to fact-check my memory.

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[henry]

No problem. Mutt Rombley & friends will stop any possibility of a conservative SC justice in 2020.

[hrtshpdbox]

First.
Mueller to say probably pretty much nothing, then run from the cameras, at 11 am.
No way does a SCOTUS nominee get voted on with less than a year to an election, at least not in this political climate (which looks like it will last forever).

[hrtshpdbox]

I meant Second, really.

[Extraneus]

"My report was delivered to the Attorney General, and that ended the responsibility I was asked to carry out. I will be making no further statements on the matter, either in public or to Congress. Thank you and God bless America."

What else could he possibly say?

[Beasts of England]

'The bitch set me up!'

[Extraneus]

I signed up for Parler, hit the Discover button, and I see a lot of posts from the Epoch Times. Not sure why this platform is any better than GAB, but it looks ok.

As for Trump, I don't know why he only posts on Twitter when he could post the same comment on multiple platforms.

[Extraneus]

Did he say "the"? lol

[GUS]

Mueller is slime. He thinks he's Lou Gehrig.
Lou Gehrig was much better than Mueller, Gehrig actually threw 240 pitches in a World Series game.

[Narciso79]

Fron the last thread thr disposition matric was very narrow in the northwest frontier, non existent in north Africa nor the Levant (like looking for your keys under the street lamp)

[MissMarple2]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/28/why-democrats-grab-for-trumps-taxes-is-doomed-to-fail/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Betsy McCoughey explains. Noot that this will have an effect on Maxine Waters or Nadler.

[Dave (in MA)]

What else could he possibly say?

Something about why the world champs have such a bad bullpen this year?

[peter]

not sure about that GUS, congrats to your son btw.

[Narciso79]

And I agree with powerline, the times the post the guardian should all be in the dock with Assange, and give back the pulitzers

[MissMarple2]

German Embassy
‏Verified account @GermanyinUSA
45m45 minutes ago

🇩🇪📺🇺🇸 Prior to her commencement speech at @Harvard tomorrow, German Chancellor Angela #Merkel sat down with @CNN's @camanpour for her first-ever in-depth interview with an American TV network. #WunderbarTogether @GermanyDiplo
==============================
Commencement speech at Harvard? You guys can envision how much I am rolling my eyes.

[GUS]

Thank you Peter.

[JimNorCal]

"what else could he possibly say?"

Mueller: "Gol durn it! We meant to get out the Report in a way that highlighted notional Obstruction for my Dem friends while ignoring ACTUAL Dem collusion with foreign powers, ACTUAL obstruction of justice including Dem destruction of evidence and ACTUAL criminal negligence in the Dem handling of classified material. That dang Trump Admin beat us to the punch by the early release of AG Barr's Summary. I'm miffed!

Why don't you pressies wheel out a bunch of coordinated stories about Obstruction?"

Press: "OK"

[Narciso79]

You too can crash a country, there is hope.

[Old Lurker]

No way a SCOTUS nominee gets through now. The House will launch the impeachment process to give GOPe time and cover to abandon their President, then McConnell can huff and puff all he wants and it will mean nothing.

The tell will be, should a vacancy come up, will Trump propose a "real" conservative or just another "best we can get right now" moderate (who will not get confirmed anyway). Or will he go hard conservative and throw the choice to the electorate.

Too hard for me to predict.

[Narciso79]

I got that last insight from the long war journal,

[Melinda]

"I'd like to announce my candidacy for the...."

[Narciso79]

Abu al libbi was hit in August 2012 in Pakistan, ambassador Stevens was the proximate high value target

[JimNorCal]

OL, he needs to go with Amy Coney Barrett this time.
We've paid our respects to GOPe already.

[Melinda]

Had to.

That was a low hanging curve and I stole it/varied it from @mtracey

[Old Lurker]

My wish too, Jim.

[James D.]

OL, he needs to go with Amy Coney Barrett this time.

Should have picked her instead of Kavanaugh. I know the Dems would have gone insane, and maybe she would have lost the vote thanks to the cowards and traitors in the GOP Senate, but it would still have been worth it to have that fight, to get the Dems (and RINOs) on record trashing a Catholic mother of seven (including two adopted from Haiti).

[hrtshpdbox]

what else could he possibly say?

"Out west the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them."

"The walrus was Paul".

"No collusion, no obstruction".

"Please start calling it the Weissmann report".

[Narciso79]

Also carrying over for pin, Anthony summers is extremely unreliable when it comes to Nixon hoover or anyone in between. Bebe was an acquaintance of Nixon and an entree into the exile community but he had nowhere the influence as the Wasp jarrett.

[hrtshpdbox]

"I'd like to announce my candidacy for the...."

That's a winner!

[Narciso79]

Back then he had Fidel o flake maverick corked bat as well as Collins and Murkowski
Well synema may have been an improvement on the first and Blackburn is solid. It's still a crapshoot

[James D.]

what else could he possibly say?

"The owls are not what they seem."

[Tom R]

Something about why the world champs have such a bad bullpen this year?

Did you watch that implosion against the Indians last night? I got so fed up with the bullpen I turned the TV off when Betts misplayed the ball in the 9th and went to bed.

[henry]

Ooops, IT consultants gonna need a whole new deck for power point.

Joe Weisenthal @TheStalwart
1h

So the Bundesbank did a trial to see if blockchain could help in the settlement of securities.

And while on the one hand, it turned out to be more expensive than traditional systems, on the other hand, it turned out to be slower

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1133725811863900160

[Beasts of England]

"The walrus was Paul".

Bravo!!

[Extraneus]

"It's time I came clean about the so-called FBI Director interview. Actually, that was a strategy session during which I agreed to carry out a diabolical strategy intended to turn the House over to a Democrat majority in 2018 in order to assure the re-election of Donald J. Trump in 2020. MAGA!"

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

As much as the Swamp needs to be drained and we need the rule of law enforced and the Constitution back and destroying the progs, I believe history [at least the sane ones] will judge Trump's reveal of China as simply an aggressive, evil, communist hegemon intent, like every other communist hegemon, on world domination and our implacable enemy and the implacable enemy of every other nation as his most important achievement.
Suddenly that belt and road initiative looks more like a noose and handcuffs to the stupid countries who thought China was giving them a hand-up rather than establishing a company store.
Suddenly the world sees people talking about the need to disestablish China's grip on rare earths to be forward, perceptive thinkers not conspiracy theorists.
The whole world was a kettle full of frogs on a slow boil, lulled to sleep by a bunch of cheap junk made by commies who traded in their Mao suits for Brooks Brothers but who are still engaged in a long march.

Barry's fabled "pivot" was to lick their boots.
Thank you Trump for sticking your boot up their ass far sooner than they were ready for.

[jimmyk]

a principle of non-cooperation with the other party in an election year.

Also maybe the fact that there was definitely going to be a new President in January 2017. Why let the outgoing punk stick it to us?

[Narciso79]

Ah lol Henry, its floor wax and desert topping, its probably impenetrable.

[Jane]

Mueller giving a statement at 11:00 Am - will be on Fox Biz. No questions allowed.

[Narciso79]

Well the great gazoos presence is enough.

[Jane]

Okay, I skipped ahead - can you tell?

[Tom R]

The "guy" Iggy is talking about it TomR. Apparently he is being Alinskyed. Here I thought he was losing most debates based on his skill set.

In your mind you win every debate. When you are getting your ass handed to you like Iggy has been doing lately you will resort to some pretty nasty tactics. First you said "Fuck you" to him and now you call him a liar in the previous thread. Of all the posters on this board, I have always considered Iggy the one who best displays Christian values. You calling him a liar confirms my perception of your own character. The irony is you will do anything to convince yourself you have won a debate on this board, to include violating your integrity and intentionally misquoting, or mischaracterizing what I or your opponent have written just to try and put us on the defensive.

In regards to you resorting to Alinsky tactics, my guess is Iggy is referring to #5 "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon". That is your standard tactic that you use against me, DawsonFields, etc. Instead of actually debating the point by offering up a counterpoint, you just ridicule it even if its a valid point.

It's also possible Iggy was referring to Rule #13 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." I get the sense your self esteem requires you to have an opponent here at JOM you can attack, attack and attack over and over again so that you can prove (to yourself) you are smarter than them. Apparently that was DoT in the past and now me. My "skill set" is good enough to counter anything you throw my way so I'm content with it.

[JimNorCal]

Ewww.
Is Don making a funny? The quote below is truly creepy.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/05/shes-10-joe.html

The press ... finds itself once again in a position where if it reports honestly about the Democrat front-runner will increase Donald Trump's odds of winning.

Not included in Politico's report was the full quote from Biden to the 10-year-old, "If you give me your address I'm going to write you a longer answer and tell you the exact things I would do, OK? OK? Promise? I bet you're as bright as you are good looking."

[Jane]

The difference between not allowing Obama's vote on SC and Trump, is that Obama was in his 2nd term, no chance he was coming back. Of course the GOP is probably too scared to point that out.

[Narciso79]

I like to skip forward in the thrillers too. yadda yadda

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--It's also possible Iggy was referring to Rule #13 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."--

Bingo.

[Tom R]

I hope one of the things Mueller discusses are the ridiculous demands by the House Democrats that Mueller should turn over grand jury testimony to them.

If Mueller informs the public he has shared all evidence he collected of criminal activity by the Obama criminal cabal with Horowitz, Huber, Durham etc then I will be laughing my ass off for the rest of the day.

[Old Lurker]

"probably" Jane?

[Narciso79]

There are improbable details that mess with the narrative like Comey was fronting the second? largest money laundering scheme in HSBC which swallowed up whatever Accenture didnt scrounge from Arthur anderson.

[henry]

LOL at the description. I bet he calls for impeachment:

MarketWatch @MarketWatch
2m

Follow live with us: Mueller will give a "lengthy and substantial" statement in just a few minutes

[Melinda]

That HSBC laundry may not be in the Avis slot for much longer.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I always thought the Walrus was the Eggman.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

-- Of all the posters on this board, I have always considered Iggy the one who best displays Christian values.--

Unfortunately I don't agree with that. MM, Janet and probably several non-Christians do a lot better job than I do.
My cheesecake shots alone probably have me out of the running.

[JimNorCal]

"The difference between not allowing Obama's vote on SC and Trump, is that Obama was in his 2nd term, no chance he was coming back."

Yeah, still pretty brave.
And that guy, Merrick Garland, was about as centrist as the Dems would ever nominate.
AND, it's not like the GOPe cares to defend America.
PLUS Hillary was sure to win, which would undo the whole maneuver.

All in all, that was a puzzling move for Mitch to make. Very little upside, very risky. I wonder if Hillary secretly put him up to it ("After I'm elected I want to nominate a woman. Scratch my back here and you'll be rewarded. Cross me and you're dead.")

[MissMarple2]

Iggy,

How very nice of you to say that, but I am a very imperfect Christian, especially on nights when I am posting on my second martini. LOL!

[GUS]

What a pathetic sociopath. FOXHOLIO.

[JimNorCal]

I'll vote for Momto2 as displaying high "online" values, whether you call them Christian or not.

[Another Bob]

Ext, re. Gab vs Parler, the primary difference is Parscale’s perhaps trial balloon to move Trump there.

Gab also has some of the IMO more distasteful types that Twitter blew out, and has already become a prog target. Maybe Parler gets the same treatment if it’s successful.

If the whole thing is simply a shot across Twitter’s bow to try and get @Jack to clean up his act (or punish @Jack for his games re. Trump) I’m probably OK with that too.

[GUS]

Mueller is a fucking goof. He craved this attention.

[henry]

He left a flaming bag of dog do on Barr's doorstep.

[MissMarple2]

Listened to most of this on the radio. Mueller's voice certainly sounded weak and whiny.

Radio host thinks he is trying to goad Congress into impeachment.

[GUS]

{{If Mueller informs the public he has shared all evidence he collected of criminal activity by the Obama criminal cabal with Horowitz, Huber, Durham etc then I will be laughing my ass off for the rest of the day.}}

Not laughing are you.

[Jim Eagle]

Wow, just Wow!

Mueller couldn't have given the media and Dems more red meat than if he called Trump a fraudulent liar and crook. No need for that statement or even the depth of his report. He is more than a black hat he is a crooked black hat. His history at Justice and FBI demonstrates his incompetency and this dog and pony show only proves it.

[GUS]

Mueller said there was systematic RUSSIAN interference in our elections.

Didn't say a single word about WHAT THIS INTERFERENCE WAS AND WHY OBAMA DID NOT STOP IT.

[Captain Hate]

Fuck Mueller. The guy is Derp State personified.

[JimNorCal]

Did Mueller make his live statement?
(Will there be a new thread LOL?)

[GUS]

Mueller's speech was the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard. This man is NOT honorable.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I'll vote for Momto2 as displaying high "online" values, whether you call them Christian or not.--

And TLG and many others. I can't name everyone. But my point stands; I'm at the bottom of the heap.

[Narciso79]

Ht here Mueller there is no Russian consulate in Miami, burn notice is not real.

[Buckeye]

Doesn't sound like white hat shit to me.

[Beasts of England]

Doesn't sound like Mueller was wearing his White Hat...

[Neo]

Gerry Nadler is a Chinese spy.

I can't prove it, but I can't exonerate Nadler either.

[Beasts of England]

lol, Buckeye!!

[henry]

not just us...

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
33s

In his first public comments on the Russia report, Robert Mueller reiterates that the Justice Department couldn't charge President Trump, putting the onus on Congress for any further action

[clarice]

Iggy, Iggy, those cheesecake shots are just thanking the lord for his creations.

[GUS]

Is this the beeeeeeeeg 4-d ending???

Mueller is a slime bag.

[Extraneus]

Did he say he intends to testify at Congressional hearings?

[Narciso79]

No gus clearly its hydra.

[Buckeye]

Might wanna put TomR on suicide watch:)

[GUS]

Trump is going to eviscerate this fool. Mueller is a coward. He said NOTHING except to insinuate.

[Melinda]

"Won't testify"

[MissMarple2]

Extraneus,

My understanding is no, because everything he has to say is in that big report.

[Extraneus]

“If we had confidence the president DID NOT commit a crime we would have said so. We did not however make a determination if the president did commit a crime.”

In other words, we violated DoJ guidelines that prohibit sliming people we don't accuse of crimes.

[Buckeye]

We can expect the Democrats to subpoena Mueller.

They've gotta exploit this for all it's worth.

[MissMarple2]

William Jacobson of Legal Insurrection is the next guest on my local radio show. I will report what he says.

[henry]

shorter Mueller, "It's not my fault the DoJ didn't let me manufacture an indictment of Trump"

[Buckeye]

Mueller refusing to testify will just give the media permission to do more speculation.

I vote we send BillyBob and BillyBob's cousin Bubba to visit Mueller and kick his ass just for good measure:)

He can explain how his exercise machine malfunctioned.

[Captain Hate]

Ol' Yeller will go ballistic.

[GUS]

Multiple, systematic attempts by Russia to interfere with our ELECTION.

Yes Mr Mueller, is DJT Russian???

[James D.]

So Mueller demonstrates again what we knew all along: he’s a lying, traitorous shitbag.

What a shock.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

What an extraordinarily corrupt action. He's actually worse than Lawrence Walsh who was at least content to put his money where his mouth was and take things to court.

[Threadkiller]

Mueller Alinskyed Tom R!

The horror.

[henry]

Sean Davis @seanmdav
14m

Also, Mueller's view of a prosecutor's role -- to prove and declare a target's innocence, rather than to charge criminality -- is a despicable affront to the rule of law and the Constitution. Cops and lawyers don't grant innocence. It is our default legal state absent conviction.

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
18s

Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you.

[Threadkiller]

And to think he was winning the Mueller white hat debate...

What a setback.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Gee, I wonder why the Dems quit pressing him. Think they had a heads up?
This way he doesn't have to answer any hostile questions but does get to leave a cloud of innuendo.

[Narciso79]

He learned it from William weld, he subsequently shutdown the bcci investigation with that same logic.

[Thomas Collins]

It's 8-D chess, Buckeye. Mueller goads Pelosi to allow impeachment proceedings to begin, which will then decimate the Dems when the evidence comes out that Samantha Power unmasked a lot of folks, and the Horowitz report concludes that some naughty naughties may have been committed in intelligence gathering. Then the coup plotters slink away. All part of the plan.

[Narciso79]

That's more confusing than inception.

[Captain Hate]

Has that overfed chipmunk, Brian Cates, closed up shop?

[Extraneus]

8-D has a more jovial look than other smileys.