Health Care Follies

The NY Times notes the Democratic dance around Medicare for All and the possible elimination of private insurance.

But its what the Democrats all agree on that will really get them - the idea of free health care for all undocumented future Democrats when we have an obvious shortage of health providers for low-income US citizens? More crazy faster!

On the topic of immigration, Andrew Sullivan is excellent (either Sully is back from his Palin-fueled Alaskan wilderness journey or I have joined him.) Fareed Zakaria, a reliable lefty, is also concerned about his party's position.

BONUS QUERY - BLUE STATE BAILOUT?: Would the abolition of private insurance wipe out the obligation of various states on their health plans to public sector retirees and/or their current employees? One might think so but I have not checked the details of the Medicare For All plans or the state obligations to current and retired employees. That said, Connecticut, Illinois and New Jersey are on everyone's list of states Too Big To Fail, Too Blue To Succeed.

Of course, both public and private sector unions negotiated health benefits later in lieu of (unaffordable) pay increases immediately, so union support my be soft.

DO LET ME ADD: Just to pick Connecticut at random, state budget projections show health care expenses (current and retirees) of $1.5B in 2020, $1.6B in 2021.

Projected deficits are $1.9B in 2020 and $2.5B in 2021. Eliminating the health care expense is not a complete solution but every big bit helps.

Comments

[Jim Eagle]

Primo?

[peter]

Jack, I will be in Riverhead the morning of July 12 (which is a Friday) in case you would like to get together for a cup of coffee.

[Melinda]

I smell a set up:

https://twitter.com/edlaborcmte/status/1144704267766435840?s=21

That Betsy DeVos did this tells me that it was timed with Oberlin, a bit.

That and “Student Debt Forgiveness!11!!”..

[Old Lurker]

This:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/retirement-home-equity-college-tuition-51561739799?mod=hp_minor_pos16

...is what happens when society goes down that slippery slope of basing the price of something on one socially acceptable subjective criteria or another. Coupled with that magic word "entitled" and poof...welcome to 2019.

[Jim Eagle]

peter,

I am in Florida, probably thru July. Sorry, to miss that cuppa cofefeve:)

[Momto2]

This should be spread far and wide...CNN exposed again!

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1144995277386014720

[MissMarple2]

We are closing up pretty soon. Too hot.

[Manuel Transmission]

Good morning. Crazy week on the Front Range. Thursday on the track, we were swarmed with some little noseeum gnats, that worse than Marlene’s skeeters, would dive bomb right down your ear canals and buzz around out of reach of your greasy pinky. Yike! 100 deg air temp and 125 deg rail temp.

Heading up to Breckinridge for the day with Jr’s tribe. Granddaughter is reciting whole sections of plays she is watching. Has her new two front teeth now, but lisps a little with the gap between them.

Prolly head back tomorrow due to break in the classic summer thundybumper season.

[Captain Hate]

The rocket surgeons responding to those internment camp photos don't seem to understand that depriving the rights of law abiding citizens is different than segregating illegal invaders.

[GUS]

Mel, Imagaine Bobby Ocasio "CORTEZ" yes he lists his middle name as Corrrrrrrtezzzzzzzz, Scott, lecturing ANYONE on worthless credentials. It's fucking absurd. Affirmative Action, thy name art Bobby Ocasio-Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttezzzzzzzzzz Scott-Demogogue-VA.

[sbwaters]

dive bomb right down your ear canals

You think that’s flying.

“I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.”

[Narciso79]

Heh, sbw a star wars reference,

[peter]

thanks for the reply, j-i-b, no worries, I'll probably drive to Greenport for the day

[Jim Eagle]

peter,

Greenport is now the "new" Hamptons:) I cannot believe how it has grown. Heck, I remember when Claudios was the only place to get a decent meal or drink.

Enjoy.

CH and D,

It's being reported that the Mayflies are so thick in Northern Ohio that they are picking them up on radar. Check this guy's boat out in the link:)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayflies-swarm-ohio-lake-erie

[rse]

Not sure if anyone has posted but we lost two fine young men this week in Afghanistan. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/27/pentagon-ids-2-soldiers-killed-fierce-firefight-afghanistan.html

[Narciso79]

The Indian sourced software for Boeing inspired the captain Nemo reference
http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Articles5.htm#NEMO

[sbwaters]

Our hexagenia mayflies can be 2+ inches in length.

[Captain Hate]

I haven't noticed them being worse than usual, Jack, but there are often pronounced differences between close to the lake and where I live.

[Captain Hate]

Just looked at the linked clip: Yow those are bad!

[Narciso79]

Yikes, that does look disturbing

[Jim Eagle]

sbw,

In that link, there is a photo of what appears to be 2"+ Mayflies.

Down here it is the love bugs. Sometimes driving over Lake Jessup on the 417 toll-road, you can pick up so many that you can't see through your windshield. I hate those damn things.

[clarice]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/06/29/federal-judge-delivers-massive-blow-to-trumps-border-wall-funding-n2549213
Pissant judge thinks he's the chief executive,

[Narciso79]

Hes a Covington drone probably worked with Mueller in northern California

[GUS]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-campaign-pulse-shooting

Typical fucking libtard slime.

I'm sending an e-mail to Congresstard Darren Soto.

[MissMarple2]

I am home. We closed up early due to heat.

Will check around and see what's going on.

[Jim Eagle]

Hell of a game in Rennes, FR: Sweden 2- Germany 1. Germany favored by a mile but Sweden, who has never beat the Germans, is everything Germany never expected.

[Melinda]

Hey, whaddya know! Italy has a corrupt teachers union too!

https://twitter.com/cesaresacchetti/status/1145020953572892673?s=21

[Captain Hate]

I hope Thomas smacks that skidmark black robed tyrant so hard that he has to go to the proctologist to get the Sierra Club and All Criminals Love Us removed.

[GUS]

This is the disgusting POND SCUM that has infiltrated American politics.
MEET YOUR JOM-CONGRESSTARD OF THE DAY!!!!!

Meet Darren Soto
Darren Soto was elected to Congress in 2016 to represent Florida’s 9th Congressional District, which includes all of Osceola county, and parts of Orange and Polk counties. Darren is proud to be the first person of Puerto Rican descent to serve in Congress from Florida.

Darren Soto is an accomplished lawyer, legislator, environmentalist, and proud progressive representing the diverse, hardworking people of Central Florida in Congress. After graduating law school, Darren went into practice in Orlando to stand up for people in the courtroom (and play music on the side). He became involved with the Young Democrats and was elected to the Florida House at the age of 29. He served for 5 and a half years in the Florida House of Representatives before he was elected to Florida Senate, where he served for 4 years. During his nearly 10 years in the Florida Legislature, Darren worked to bring high-paying, high tech jobs to Central Florida; protect our clean air, land, and water; expand and protect health care; help families facing foreclosure; and improve education.

Darren is a graduate of Rutgers University and George Washington University School of Law. His wife, Amanda, has worked as a math and science teacher in the Osceola and Orange County public schools and is a retired member of the Orange County Classroom Teachers Association.

[Jim Eagle]

Not only is Rapinoe an Anti-American American Skank but she is now an AOC Super-Skank. I hope if the team wins, Trump doesn't invite them.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rapinoe-accepts-aocs-invite-to-congress-after-saying-she-wont-go-to-f-ing-white-house

[Jim Eagle]

GUS,

Osceola County is like 55% Puerto Rican IIRC.

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/29/new-york-times-public-shame-border-agents/

The author foresees agents being shamed at church after being photographed "ripping children out of their parents' arms."

She is an assistant professor at a UK university.

I say we start shaming people who are published in the New York Times.

[Jane]

JIB,

Are you getting this rain? Pouring like a banshee - thunder and lightening. 3rd day in a row, supposed to continue for 10 more.

[Captain Hate]

See you next Tuesday, Rapinoe.

[Buckeye]

JiB

Trump already extended an invitation to the gals, win or lose.

The Skank won't be missed.

[jimmyk]

“I hope Thomas smacks that skidmark black robed tyrant”

Roberts will come to his rescue.

[GUS]

Jack, this little boy pretend Congressman who is "PROTECTING MY (OUR) CLEAN AIR" is from N.J.
He was backing a candidate that pretended to be a cardiologist and who had claimed to have removed 77 bullets from 32 victims of THE PULSE nightclub.

Fuck him and everything he PRETENDS to stand for.

[Jim Eagle]

Jane,

Yes, it started to come through about an hour ago. Not bad yet, just some thunder but no much wind. When we get the wind then we get the deluge.

According to the maps, it came by you and then headed direct east where it joined another system over the Bahamas and is now coming into us from the East heading NW. A little unusual pattern but not unknown.

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

My mother and both of her parents were teachers. When they first started talking about a union, I can remember all 3 of them being upset.

My grandfather said they were PROFESSIONALS and unions were for factories and such. He got really upset atthe people who were talking it up. (This was in the late 60's.)

Now we see that he was right.

[Marlene]

Jack,the love bugs started to swarm by the time we left Florida in May. The first night we stopped at our hotel,the car was plastered with them. Some of the newbie snowbirds in our community were horrified by them,especially the sticking to the car. What a mess.
I expect the mosquitos in the woods,after all it is the woods. :) But I'm old now and seem to get a bad reaction. The bites become welts.

[Captain Hate]

My grandfather said they were PROFESSIONALS and unions were for factories and such. He got really upset atthe people who were talking it up. (This was in the late 60's.)

Exactly. I didn't go to college to join a union and be forced to call some malingering jackoff "brother". Fuck that shit.

Not that unions, in an ideal situation, can't provide a useful function by guaranteeing a degree of skill in the crafts. But once the mob got involved it was all over.

[MissMarple2]

Where the fact checkers at?#DemsGoneWild #DemDebates2020#KamalaHarris2020 all pandering and false virtuosity. No message, no political platform, again. pic.twitter.com/pY8gXmwsJo

— Rorschach (@MeRorschach) June 29, 2019

Photo at link. As you can see, the high school was integrated.

Heard a dem county chair on the radio on the way home. He was already talking about Harris and her epic moment.

She's able to get away with her fakery because the media lets her and people under 30 don't know recent history.

[Jim Eagle]

What the Dems, the media and the young people don't realize is that there is a couple of guys named Trump and Parscale that will devote their campaign to educate everyone about their opponent whoever it may be.

It would not surprise me that after the last Dem debate that Brad lit up a 6" Churchill cigar much like Red Auerbach used to do.

[Jim Eagle]

Sweden upsets Germany. But England still has more blondes:)

[Captain Hate]

The Restraining Order is upset at the gerrymandering decision. It's called winning, punk.

[jimmyk]

Where the fact checkers at?

Hey, the Babylon Bee was on the case:

@TheBabylonBee

Kamala Harris Claimed Americans Don't Want To See A Food Fight. Fact Check: FALSE

[Buckeye]

JiB

My family is, after 12 generations American, as much of a hodge-podge of ethnicity as you would expect. Pretty much every Northern European country represented with a touch of American Indian for good measure

I have three sisters who as kids were all blondes and blue eyed with the exception of one with hazel eyes, like my mom.

I have a very English surname, but all three sisters look like they would have been on the Norwegian team, not England.

[Jim Eagle]

The London Series game may have the biggest crowd so far this year in MLB. Olympic Stadium seats 60K. It's a sellout.

Yanks up 8-6 on the Bosox's. UK crowd loves home runs since it reminds them of 6's in Cricket. Only the top of the 3rd. LOL.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/29/donald-trump-taunts-cnns-jim-acosta-how-is-your-book-doing/

In case you missed this exchange at the press conference.

[Jim Eagle]

Umm, Buckeye, Vikings, the East Coast of Britain = lots of blondes in England:) But they didn't influence the Irish or Scots as much. Wonder why?

[MissMarple2]

Buckeye,

I am a hodge-podge as well. Danish, Scot, German Jewish, French.

All of us 5 kids had blue eyes. 2 brown hair, one red-head, 1 blonde, and 1 with coal black hair (and the bluest of all our eyes).

The only ancestors who were here before the Civil War were the Scottish branch.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/29/italys-trump-salvini-wants-build-wall-stop-illegal-migration-balkans/

[Buckeye]

But they didn't influence the Irish or Scots as much. Wonder why?

Maybe the English gals were better looking and "more friendly":)

[James D.]

MM @ 1:47

You beat me to it - I was about to post that link.

If that's how the Left wants to play, there are plenty of conservatives ready to respond in kind.

[Buckeye]

My earliest, at least so far that has been identified (except the Injuns) was English 1627 to Jamestown.

Last one identified was pre civil war Irish potato famine escapee.

[Captain Hate]

Trump trolling Acosta is outstanding. The NeverTrump dopes will never get it; they're Mr. Jones in Ballad of a Thin Man.

[henry]

Votes for cash & cigarettes in LA.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Indictments-Charge-Widespread-Voting-Fraud-Scheme-in-Los-Angeles-511971752.html

[Jim Eagle]

The thing is that people like Acosta and others don't even know how much they contribute to the cult of The Donald:) The Irish call them "eejits".

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

If Trump were as unpopular as Acosta seems to think (along with a bunch of the blue check mark MSM on Twitter) his book wouldn't be in the cellar on Amazon and there wouldn't be tens of thousands showing up for Trump rallies.

To go to a Trump rally, you have to be willing to register for tickets, wait in line for many hours, and sit in a crowded arena or auditorium, with no refreshments.
You do this IN PERSON, where you can be photographed, not anonymously on Twitter or some other social media site.

Saw my first Trump bumper sticker today. (New design, not from 2016.)

[GUS]

Liberals and VOTE FRAUD??

That goes together like

LIBERALS and BABY KILLNG!

Such nice people.

I was in the St Vincent De Paul store yesterday, and I heard a couple o grey haired libtards talking about the CATSKILLS. They were humorous.
As I walked thru the parking lot with MRS. I said OUT LOUD. "IN GENERAL, libtards are pretty stupid"
A lady passing us, looked at me and said YEP.

[MissMarple2]

Highlighted quote from the Financial Times interview with Putin, screen cap shown at link.

Jeebus. Putin gets it pic.twitter.com/7WmbTzOTRO

— ThunderB, Hineni (@ThunderB) June 29, 2019

[Jim Eagle]

14-6 Yanks.

Like I told TomR, it’s what an English wants to see.

Just like in Cricket, bad bowling aka pitching.

[Catsmeat]

Jack, to make the lovebug problem worse, they are almost always squashed in pairs, mid-copulation!

narc, I know about Warren Hastings' trial because Jane Austen and her sister attended--they were family friends of Hastings and were on his side. Also, I won't forget that Nemo is Moriary argument--very interesting!

[Neo]

Guess the party ...

Indictments Charge Widespread Voting Fraud Scheme on Skid Row in Los Angeles

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Indictments-Charge-Widespread-Voting-Fraud-Scheme-in-Los-Angeles-511971752.html

[Captain Hate]

Speaking of baseball, I missed this until now

https://mobile.twitter.com/fsmidwest/status/1142227961107513344

Cards fans are the best!

[Neo]

NYT: Trump Consultant Is Trolling Democrats With Biden Site That Isn’t Biden’s

[henry]

A call for docking should get NYT banned from social media (by terms of use at FB, Twitter, etc).

@ChuckRossDC

NYT op-ed: Border agents should face “serious social costs” and public identification (aka doxxing)

[henry]

doxxing

[GUS]

Neo, who is the FULL COMMIE, NEVER LET A CRISIS THAT WE CAUSED, GO TO WASTE PARTY?????

[MissMarple2]

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/america_talked_out_of_liberty.html

This pretty much sums up what we have discussed here.

[Manuel Transmission]

Well, after stopped traffic spread over about 200 sq miles in central Colorado, we finally ended up at an outdoor hippie mall in Golden. This is like Seattle’s traffic except spread over everywhere. Must be related to that crushing miserable economy the progs are yelling about.

[MissMarple2]

Local weather guy:

John Dissauer
‏Verified account @johndissauer
13m13 minutes ago

DID YOU KNOW: #Indianapolis hit 90° today for the first time since September 20, 2018. #INwx

[MissMarple2]

Hey @ArianaGrande - You've come to perform at @TheFieldhouse on the perfect day. We've been working on our moves at #PackTheParks and are ready to step in for your back-up dancers -- just say the word. pic.twitter.com/jpbe7DIz0X

— Mayor Joe Hogsett (@IndyMayorJoe) June 29, 2019

Our dem mayor. Video at the link. He's the white guy in the front row.

I would like to point out that my street looks like it was strafed by a B-52, as do many others. I would also like to point out that we have an increase in homicides, particularly shootings.

All this guy does is photo ops.

[Captain Hate]

Don't worry, henry, I read your links.

Sometimes...

[Jim Eagle]

GUS,

Left the Baseball game for the Senior Open and Steve Striker has a 3 shot lead over Jerry Kelly. Two Cheeseheads fighting it out. David Toms tied with Jerry.

[Jim Eagle]

...Stricker....Damn.

[Marlene]

Man Tran,now I know the daughter and son-in-law are also stuck in traffic. :) They flew out to Denver last night and today were going to Boulder. They are seeing her cousin in a suburb of Denver tomorrow and then going hiking. I'm pleased about her seeing her cousin,they bonded at the wedding earlier this month. What is funny is that the daughter is the oldest cousin and the cousin she's visiting is the youngest. They also have similar personalties and I find that amusing.

[D]

Marlene:
My kids have 17 cousins and it is interesting who ends up bonding and hanging out together.
Hope your daughter has s wonderful time in Colorado.
OL:
So glad the wedding was wonderful.
We were on Cape Cod the week before and went over to Martha’s Vineyard for a day.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/29/trump-kamala-harris-received-too-much-credit-for-attacking-biden/

[Captain Hate]

LOLGF

https://newrepublic.com/article/154351/supreme-court-seems-oddly-ambivalent-lied

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

It was never really a mystery why the Trump administration sought to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census: to bolster white political power by reducing nonwhite participation.

Cap doesn't call em Children of the Cornhole for nuthin.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

I had a great meeting with President Xi of China yesterday, far better than expected. I agreed not to increase the already existing Tariffs that we charge China while we continue to negotiate. China has agreed that, during the negotiation, they will begin purchasing large......

.....amounts of agricultural product from our great Farmers. At the request of our High Tech companies, and President Xi, I agreed to allow Chinese company Huawei to buy product from them which will not impact our National Security. Importantly, we have opened up negotiations...

.....again with China as our relationship with them continues to be a very good one. The quality of the transaction is far more important to me than speed. I am in no hurry, but things look very good! Their will be no reduction in the Tariffs currently being charged to China.

[Neo]

Boeing's 737 Max software outsourced to $9-an-hour foreign engineers

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2019/06/28/boeing-increasingly-reliedon-outsourced-9-hour-engineers-test-software

[Buckeye]

But Neo, they probably paid the testers $9.50/hr.

[henry]

Was that $9 paid to the Indian shop? I doubt the coders got that much.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
21m21 minutes ago

I am in South Korea now. President Moon and I have “toasted” our new Trade Deal, a far better one for us than that which it replaced. Today I will visit with, and speak to, our Troops - and also go the the DMZ (long planned). My meeting with President Moon went very well!

[Buckeye]

I doubt the coders got that much.

Undoubtedly true Henry.

[Buckeye]

The reality isn't that Indian software developers would be incapable, but these outsource approaches are frequently a poorly managed cluster.

[henry]

Churchill’s two nations separated by a common language comes to mind.

[Extraneus]

Anthony Weiner spotted brunching with mystery woman on Wall Street

But Weiner appeared to lose his sense of huma after making eye-contact with a Post reporter who a waitress seated by chance at the table next to him — close enough to nearly bump elbows with the selfie-crazed Democrat.

[Extraneus]

I once hired an Indian Java programmer-contractor who worked with us on site for over a year on a web-based data analysis system. Very excellent guy. He even let me look at snapshots his mother had sent him of three girls from which he could choose his wife. We both agreed on the selection.

[GUS]

JiB, Kelly and Stricker are both MADISON as is ANDY NORTH. Stricker played for ILLINOIS (fucker), and married the UW COACHES daugheter.

[MissMarple2]

Earlier: President Trump opens meeting with Saudia Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. pic.twitter.com/OAL0pXUAq7

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) June 29, 2019

Video at the link.

[GUS]

So the question of CITIZENSHIP doesn't apply to WHITE PEOPLE.
What RACE are Mexican???

the LEFT the FULL COMMIE LEFT, needs to be put down like the EVIL RABID DOGS that they are.

[Rocco]

It's time for the Milorganite throw down. Here's what I'm doing this weekend. (not with the same equipment this dude is using but with the same ferts)

I couldn't post just a link after my text but it does seem to work using the html tag.

[GUS]

Milorganite is MILWAUKEE HUMAN WASTE.

SOLYLENT BROWN.

[GUS]

Miss M!! We hit 90 two days in a row at my place.
I love it.
Pretty sure Henry is as warm.

[Jim Eagle]

When I answer the census all I give is my name, address, who lives here, my nationality, profession, and whether I am a house or apartment. Never been challenged. Give them nothing more.

[henry]

AC helps.

[MissMarple2]

This guys is a complete ass. That is all I have to say.

Mitt Romney
‏Verified account @MittRomney

The President’s praise for MBS, the man who US intel says ordered or authorized the heinous murder of a WaPo columnist & Saudi dissident, sends the wrong message to the world. It’s past time for Congress & the administration to impose sanctions for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.