Health Care Follies

The NY Times notes the Democratic dance around Medicare for All and the possible elimination of private insurance.

But its what the Democrats all agree on that will really get them - the idea of free health care for all undocumented future Democrats when we have an obvious shortage of health providers for low-income US citizens? More crazy faster!

On the topic of immigration, Andrew Sullivan is excellent (either Sully is back from his Palin-fueled Alaskan wilderness journey or I have joined him.) Fareed Zakaria, a reliable lefty, is also concerned about his party's position.

BONUS QUERY - BLUE STATE BAILOUT?: Would the abolition of private insurance wipe out the obligation of various states on their health plans to public sector retirees and/or their current employees? One might think so but I have not checked the details of the Medicare For All plans or the state obligations to current and retired employees. That said, Connecticut, Illinois and New Jersey are on everyone's list of states Too Big To Fail, Too Blue To Succeed.

Of course, both public and private sector unions negotiated health benefits later in lieu of (unaffordable) pay increases immediately, so union support my be soft.

DO LET ME ADD: Just to pick Connecticut at random, state budget projections show health care expenses (current and retirees) of $1.5B in 2020, $1.6B in 2021.

Projected deficits are $1.9B in 2020 and $2.5B in 2021. Eliminating the health care expense is not a complete solution but every big bit helps.

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--but there’s still ultimately an author--

An infinite number of Richard Dawkins with an infinite number of typewriters?

[Narciso79]

I think that would be a stretch pin, that would involve significant alterations or subatitutiond

[Narciso79]

This one back in march:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03/10/significant-interview-with-patrick-moore-on-breitbart-merits-a-listen-and-more-exposure/

[Narciso79]

And there is another Kim back in October, talking about the samples from yamal, since then who knows

[Pinandpuller]

Something else that’s probably nothing but I’ll throw it out:

Earth, Air, Fire and Water

Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine and Thymine

[Narciso79]

She seems to have antagonized eschembach in a post in early may.

[Pinandpuller]

How about Christopher Hitchins in hell with an infinite supply of cigarettes and pitchforks?

[Narciso79]

Wind, isnt odd that seem to be trying to ban the first one.

[Pinandpuller]

Eshembach, TX with Willie, Waylon and the boys?

[Narciso79]

Well that's one view, hell could be a realm of absence of God naturally but all contact with people.

[Pinandpuller]

A bigger stretch than the Big Bang?

[Narciso79]

Think of him, as one of buckaroo banzais bandmates (Clancy brown I think) in the field of climate realism, but she ran across a res lectroid.

[Pinandpuller]

You know what they say on /Pol? Tits or GTFO. We’d settle for boobies around here. What would taxonomy and geography of the Americas been without dirty minded Frenchmen?

Why can you say Frenchmen and not Chinaman?

[Narciso79]

The latter would be like calling them frogs, entedez:

https://youtu.be/KlLW-rezTr4

Or another group wogs

[Pinandpuller]

This one goes out to David Axlerod in genuine Northern Irish:

I Trough a Brick Thru a Window https://youtu.be/ku7Wgqfsvmo

[Jane]

Is I use me, or did Trump just tell off the Bloomberg reporter?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

There are some truly ugly, hate warped people in The Federalist's comment sections.

[Pinandpuller]

This could be a mutation: MetalTrump-Peace Sells but Who’s Buying?

https://youtu.be/ui983Y99hFs

[Jane]

Is it just me... sheesh.

[Melinda]

He’s not a fan of BBerg, at all, so not unimaginable.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--How about Christopher Hitchins in hell with an infinite supply of cigarettes and pitchforks?--

Well, if it is truly hell, I'm guessing he has the wracking, blood soaked cough but not the fags.
And the pitchforks are incoming.

[Melinda]

And most of MESSNBC came from BBergTV, btw.

[Melinda]

Their Chief News Editor once worked for MediaMatters, if you need an indication of “bent”.

And I’m done til tomorrow.

G’night all. (Pulled câble all day, by myself. Stairmaster by proxy)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Wiki says;
"The word faggot in the UK typically refers to a kind of meatball, while fag is most commonly used as a slang term for "cigarette".

You learn somethin new every day.

[Pinandpuller]

Some people think the Nephelim created the dinosaurs. According to the Book of Enoch they taught the daughters of man how to wear makeup. That feels true on its face.

[Melinda]

Lastly to Jane,

Your pal who wants interest rates to soar?

Tell him good luck with that. Cutting taxes and removing regulations are both permanently deflationary. So it ain’t happening on his timetable for a very long time. Ask for cash up front, if he wants to bet. I’ll cover his stakes.

[jim nj]

Interesting - a Russian Czar, a gay columnist and a "never Trump" columnist all, more or less,on the same page regarding the American electorate.

[clarice]

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2019/06/103_271476.html

[Narciso79]

It's one of those crossing the streams moments.
Putin is a Russian nationalist a warlord or a mob boss who seems himself as czar, that requires a faith alliance. Sullivan dies have odd bouts of awareness, remember his total freakout at the beginning of the term, as for Stephens he has similar instincts about Netanyahu

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Dread Butt Pirate Robert's Supreme Court defies easy political labels.
Untrue.
"Incoherent" is easy and apt.

[Narciso79]

Ms thinks the AP gets its news from earth 19, there isnt another explanation hoe they miss the boat the anchor anc thd first mate.

[clarice]

"I've waited forty years for politics to be this entertaining." – Mark Ashworth

Yes, Iggy "incoherent" is the word..or poking a finger in Trump's eye out of spite.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Interesting - a Russian Czar, a gay columnist and a "never Trump" columnist all, more or less,on the same page regarding the American electorate.--

That sentence would have been a lot more enjoyable if after "columnist" you had said "walk into a bar".

[Pinandpuller]

If you want to know how Roberts is compromised consider how sodomy is often a part of an initiation ritual into secret societies. See the Skull and Bones for one.

Yes, I know I get the Cliff Claven seat at whatever end of the world bar I can manage to belly up to.

[Narciso79]

Well if you're on a fixed income you might want more return on your money, but the other part is odd.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Co-founder of wikipedia spouts some pie in the sky stuff, but a lot of good stuff too, in probably ineffective defiance of the tech oligarchs.

[Narciso79]

How did they sign off in the new Battlestar Galactica, which glen Larson would have regarded as if it was in hell,

[Narciso79]

This is getting serious:

https://mobile.twitter.com/pnjaban/status/1145171032665235459

[Jane]

Trump is currently in his helicopter flying to NKorea to meet wth Kim Jon Un. Pretty historic moment about to take place. First president to set foot in NK in history.

[Pinandpuller]

This is a test of the Emergency Dog Whistle Broadcast System.

This is only a test

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this were an actual dog whistle you would have been told where to chimp-out.

[Narciso79]

The dark night of fascism falls in europe:

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/europe/286878/judenrein-europe?fbclid=IwAR2q0oyNnVNcDeJnfR8marCIb1iY2K6SOMTAM12DCuI9UI6G5G99IHyCiuY

[Narciso79]

Frankly I'm not too sanguine with these summits we've gotten some progress; but there has been much backsliding and the optics resemble Nixon in 72 which in retrospect was over the top.

[MissMarple2]

yay! I woke up in time!

[Narciso79]

That war really worked out;

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-germany/germany-arrests-suspect-linked-to-2015-paris-attacks-idUSKCN1TS1CE?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=69

[Narciso79]

Of course they dont give the names, because that wouldn't be helpful.

[jim nj]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/06/space-station-mold-survives-200-times-radiation-dose-would-kill-human

Amazing, which leads to this...

"The finding is also important for researchers studying the origin of life, says Paul Mason, an astrobiologist at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces.

That’s because one of the puzzles in origin-of-life research is that Earth seems to have gone from prebiotic all the way to fairly complex microorganisms early in its history—a process that some scientists think required more time than had passed since the planet first became habitable. One idea, Mason says, is that life originated elsewhere, either in our solar system or farther afield. “Now that we know that Earth life can survive in space, it is certainly reasonable to think that it could have arrived on Earth from somewhere else,” he says."

Panspermia?

[Pinandpuller]

I was listening to more Pastor Stephen Darby. He was talking about how there’s a conspiracy against Black people to prevent them from accumulating wealth and passing it on to their kids. He’s not wrong.

[jim nj]

MM, Trump is at the DMZ.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-dmz-kim-live-intl-hnk/index.html

[MissMarple2]

Saw it!

[MissMarple2]

President in North Korea!

[Pinandpuller]

Hey jim, do you think it’s possible China is paying people like Boko Haram to destroy and disrupt infrastructure in Africa? The purpose being to increase their leverage.

[MissMarple2]

I have got to go back to bed.

See you in a few hours!

[jim nj]

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/06/white-holes-do-black-holes-have-mirror-images

Oho, ouch, my head hurts. Mathematically, "white holes" are as likely as "black holes." Since "black holes" exist, ergo "white holes."

But we have never found a "white hole." Do they derive from depleting "black holes?" Is that the only way they form?

Then, if when the "big bang" happened was it a "white hole" that can only be formed by a "black hole" which implies a time-line further back than the "big bang?"

I'm sure I'm not doing justice to the article so take a look for yourselves.

[jim nj]

PIN,

The only "conspiracy" against blacks acquiring wealth that I know of is called "welfare." Earn or save too much and you're thrown off it. There should be some kind of transition process to help people move off welfare by gradually, not abrupt;y, cutting benefits.

Blacks in the middle-class and above function financially the same as their white counterparts. They buy homes, keep up with the payments, save for emergencies, their kid's college and retirement.

China using Boko Haram? Not likely. Boko Haram is also known as Islamic State in West Africa. They may have some Chinese weapons from arms trade, bui they take their orders, if any, from ISIS.

[jim nj]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-kim-will-meet-at-dmz-on-sunday-south-koreas-leader-says

Updated story as of 5 minutes ago. Trump and Kim have met. Shaken hands. Stepped into NK territory and returned to the DMZ.

Trying to find more, but it may have been a simple grip-and-grin. Even if that's all it was it's still historical.

[jim nj]

CNN confirms with lots of coverage,

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-dmz-kim-live-intl-hnk/index.html

[jim nj]

Kim has been invited to the White House!

[jim nj]

Private bi-lateral meeting. No read-out yet on for how long.

[Pinandpuller]

That’s what I was getting at, jim. Between Planned Parenthood on one end and LBJ on the other. But what about guys like Redd Foxx and Wesley Snipes, Buddy Guy and Bo Diddley or Leon Spinks. Is there anything we can do to educate people to keep them from getting taken advantage of, or is that up to Tariq Nasheed?

[Pinandpuller]

BTW are you still going to the library? You’ve had a fairly uninterrupted streak of posting.

[Pinandpuller]

Do you remember the first conspiracy theory you ever heard? For me it was about how Ayatollah Khomeni was an imposter, much like Paul McCartney.

Maybe, maybe not, but he could have been the reincarnation of Lenin:

Documents seen by BBC suggest Carter administration paved way for Khomeini to return to Iran by holding the army back from launching a military coup

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/10/ayatollah-khomeini-jimmy-carter-administration-iran-revolution

[Pinandpuller]

The transition between Ayatollahs could be compared to Ronald Reagan being followed by a guy named Ronald Regan.

[jim nj]

PIN,

If I keep my PC by the window I get spotty coverage from OptimumWiFi. If I get a Sprint hot-spot from my library I get better coverage and can move the PC into a more comfortable location. Fewer typos that way. The last hot-spot sucked, it couldn't maintain a connection. ED disorder or something.

Yeah, they could teach personal finance in HS, but most kids, regardless of race, learn that from their parents. Allowances, savings, etc.

And anybody can get scammed or get very poor advice.

[jim nj]

Trump and Kim met for about an hour. Some seem to think the new talks may focus on intermediate issues, not de-nuclearization. All of it is speculation.

At any rate, Kim gets another meeting with the President and a verbal massage.

[Pinandpuller]

I bet some lawyers and the usual deck crew will be writing scathing posts about how PDJT pals around with dictators.

[Pinandpuller]

Is there any objection to Un visiting a house built by slaves? Is he going to get the Dalai Lama your?

[Pinandpuller]

TOUR.

[hoyden]

Babble: The 'Debates' and the SCOTUS
By Clarice Feldman

[DrJ]

Your weekly Clarice:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/babble_the_debates_and_the_scotus.html

[henry]

Trump crosses NK border:

https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1145266508110675971?s=21

[Pinandpuller]

The husband, wife, and infant had left a poor but comfortable home in El Salvador in hopes of getting asylum in the U.S.A., where they could get better-paying jobs. They'd both had jobs, don't seem to have been in serious want, and weren't under any kind of threats or persecution.
When they got to the U.S. border they were told they faced a long wait because of the surge of asylum-seekers.
They had Mexican visas that allowed them to work in Mexico for a year, so they could have waited it out, but decided to swim the river instead.
And so the man and child drowned.

AND IT'S ALL TRUMP'S FAULT.

[clarice]

Good morning,JOM:Thanks hoyden and Dr J!

[Pinandpuller]

Turns out he did do something:

SUGARCREEK, Ohio — The Sugarcreek Police Department --- A Sugarcreek Police Officer is recovering in an Akron hospital after being stabbed by a man during a traffic stop.

After being stabbed, 37-year-old Police Captain Brian Dalton shot and killed the male suspect. The incident took place around 10 a.m. Wednesday near TMK Farm Service in Tuscarawas County.

The motorist had reportedly driven through a no-trucks zone, damaging property. He allegedly stabbed Dalton in the neck with a screwdriver after the being told he would need to appear in court on a property damaging charge.

Police have identified the deceased male as Elijah Collins III, 32-years-old truck driver from High Point, N.C

https://youtu.be/078KAno2ufk

[Buckeye]

Great Clarice!

[jim nj]

Sounds like a recent "Blue Bloods" episode. Danny pulls into a gas station, sees something weird in the cashier's station he doesn't grasp, but his radar is up. Guy steps out of the gas station with a long bloody screwdriver.

Babbling nonsense he advances on Danny who repeatedly tells him to hold his distance. Danny has his gun out and the guy keeps advancing. Finally he lunges at Danny with the screwdriver held high in attack mode. Danny falling back shoots him twice in the torso and kills him.

Whether in film or reality, screwdrivers can be lethal weapons.

I am curious to know if the screwdriver was sharpened in any fashion.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
41m41 minutes ago

Leaving South Korea after a wonderful meeting with Chairman Kim Jong Un. Stood on the soil of North Korea, an important statement for all, and a great honor!

[clarice]

A most in depth account of busing and Berkeley:https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/more-than-gotcha-kamalas-busing-blunder/?fbclid=IwAR2N7ZH_6UreecWuAiuX5huL2kfmdVyoi9TDbNBqzJAdmNitezyR7PC-iIg

[Buckeye]

Had dinner with friends last night. Their son graduated Miami University this spring and they told a story of one of his best buds.

The kid graduates Summa Cum Laude, 4.0 GPA and scores in the 99+ percentile on the MCAT.

He has not yet been accepted to a Med School. His "crime" is he is a white male.

I'm glad the white male surgeon who operated on me got in before SJWs started running admissions.

[hoyden]

Clarice pairing commentary on the Democrat debate and recent SCOTUS highlights the craziness that permeates our political and judicial institutions.

I can imagine the Roberts court to hold that Teh Won's EO's are sacred doctrine that supersede our Constitution. Obama acknowledged he had no legal authority to create DACA, he created it anyway, and now the SCOTUS is set to declare Obama's EO's as settled law. Right up there with Global Warming.

[hoyden]

Commentary on Portland Antifa attacking reporter:

Antifa has replaced the KKK as the militant arm of the Left.

In the comments:

Can we please go back to calling them Klantifa?

[MissMarple2]

Delighted to be in Ulaanbaatar & looking forward to meeting with officials to find ways to harness Mongolia’s capabilities in support of our shared economic & security objectives. Thank you for the warm welcome Secretary of State @davaasuren_d pic.twitter.com/AN8T1AHryg

— John Bolton (@AmbJohnBolton) June 30, 2019

Photo at the link.

Now I wonder what's going on in Mongolia? (When I was a kid the capital was spelled Ulan Bator.)

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-kim-will-meet-at-dmz-on-sunday-south-koreas-leader-says

[MissMarple2]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/451044-trump-makes-history-crossing-into-north-korea-before-announcing

[MissMarple2]

Jack!

https://www.wthr.com/article/beagles-sniff-out-snails-luggage-atlanta-airport

[Jim Eagle]

Bravo Zulu, Clarice. A good morning tonic.

[MissMarple2]

https://apnews.com/453b88591bbf430db98b487f2aac30b1?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

The Latest: Trump says ‘great honor’ to stand in North Korea

[James D.]

The only "conspiracy" against blacks acquiring wealth that I know of is called "welfare."

And it IS a conspiracy! Starting from the “war on poverty” everything the left has done for the last nearly 60 years has been explicitly designed to destroy wealth and foster dependence.

I’m serious. If you wanted to totally wreck the black community and create nearly inescapable generational poverty, what you you do differently than the Democrat Party has done since 1960?

[MissMarple2]

Dennis Rodman
‏Verified account @dennisrodman
7h7 hours ago

Wishing my friends, @realDonaldTrump and Marshal Kim Jong Un a very good meeting... Much love to you both and keep up the wonderful progress! #PEACEANDLOVE

==========================

Unbelievably, I had forgotten about Dennis Rodman!

[MissMarple2]

U.S. President Donald Trump meets North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas, becoming the first U.S. president to set foot in North Korea when he briefly crossed the military demarcation line. More here: https://t.co/NpcdzIOTl7 pic.twitter.com/1eqbE1NVhA

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) June 30, 2019

Links to both article and a video clip.

[clarice]

Thanks.

[MissMarple2]

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/06/highlights-of-news_30.html?spref=tw

I always enjoy Don Surber's recaps.

[Narciso79]

The Klan is not the left's, it's the Confederate resistance thr down scale advance army of the southern bourbons.

Excellent clarice, it seems Robert's seems to be poaching at least one clerk from tribe

[Narciso79]

Busing is the urban equivalent of sending kids from southie and long island to Vietnam, the likes of Kevin white and the white stocking judge were never affected I beat Bundy's ford foundation was somehow involved

[Narciso79]

Garrity, that was the one, yes the Massachusetts legislature created the sw9rd.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-press-secretary-stephanie-grisham-roughed-up-by-north-korean-security-guards

She's tougher than Sean Spicer or George Stephanopolis.

Sarah Sanders would have done the same thing, though.

[Jane]

Did anyone else see Gordan Chang last night on Fox, before the NK arrival?

What he said was incredibly interesting to me. He believes that the one thing we don't get about NK is that both Kim, and his father's goal was to keep the people poor. Otherwise he believes he will lose his power. So these opportunities to make the country great are fairly unpersuasive.

The other thing that keeps coming up is what Obama did to Khadafi. He surrenders his weapons as asked and then he is murdered - by Hillary pretty much. So why on earth trust us?

What an interesting night.

[jimmyk]

Busing is the urban equivalent of sending kids from southie and long island to Vietnam

Yes, lost in the whole kerfuffle over Biden and busing is that opposing it was the correct position. First, the feds had no business getting involved, and second, it was terrible policy. It also happened to be wildly unpopular. If I recall correctly, George Wallace actually won the Michigan Democratic primary in 1972 because the issue was so heated. But of course in the swamp of the current D party, to hold such a position is forbidden.

[Narciso79]

Yes but the solon cant admit this, because hes been virtue signaling at least since bork, much like whitey bulger's blood sticks to weld and muellers cravat ties, (I dont know if they do wear that type of tie, but it makes for good imaging)

[James D.]

He believes that the one thing we don't get about NK is that both Kim, and his father's goal was to keep the people poor. Otherwise he believes he will lose his power. So these opportunities to make the country great are fairly unpersuasive.

How is that any different than the goal of the Democratic Party in this country?

[Narciso79]

Think of the Qaddafi hit like the diem coup, whi would trust us going forward that's why sukarno slaughtered 500,000 two years later, take no chances