Fox: "The Supreme Court has agreed to decide whether plans by the Trump administration to end the so-called DACA program for young undocumented immigrants can proceed.
The justices announced Friday they will hear oral arguments on the appeal in its next term, which begins in October. A ruling is expected in the presidential election year, putting the high court at the center of one of the most politically charged issues."
Right up there with yesterday's comment about SCOTUS saying a constitutional act by a constitutional official doing his constitutional job in pursuit of a constitutionally mandated assignment, consistent with how the job had been done by administration after administration down through the ages of this republic...was turned back because Roberts said it smelled funny.
We have become a Saturday Night Live skit from back when they were funny.
>>>Why is the border wall stupid? The only way to keep people out is with a physical barrier.
Posted by: Davod | June 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM<<<
argue the strawman ... of course we aren't going to build the great wall of north america but maybe some actual border enforcement including physical barriers wold be worthwhile.
i still find it strange Gen Kelly got high level administration slots.
I love John McPhee, also, and could care less if he is a liberal. None of his books or essays have been political but fascinating discoveries of writing you can't put down. His books on American geology are an example were detail is welcome.
I was watching some old movie about NASA sending a probe into deep space but still wanting to control it with radio signals. The lag time for the signal out and back was so long that it made for tense moments.
Strikes me that that is how we are asking Trump to manage the biggest government on this planet. Issue an order. Wait for it to get to some court somewhere. Wait for that court to think about it. Wait for the answer to come home. React and repeat.
Since TK posted it here as well as the last thread, I will bring over my response.
TK,
Thank you for the second Kelly article. Both are reporting on Kelly's comments made at Duke. The titles of both articles demonstrate the gaslighting going on, which apparently you (as well as OL and Davod) fell for.
Kelly never said the border wall was "stupid". That's a leftwinger Vanity Fair writer making shit up. Aside from the title of the article the word "stupid" isn't even included anywhere else in the article. Kelly's position that there is no need for a border wall "from sea to shining sea" is the same position as Trump's. It would indeed be a "waste of money" to build a 30'+ wall in areas where it was not needed, which is why Trump is not advocating for that.
of course we aren't going to build the great wall of north America but maybe some actual border enforcement including physical barriers wold be worthwhile.
100% correct and also the same position both Trump and Kelly share. Both articles TK linked (apparently thinking they refuted my criticism of Coulter's dishonest rant) are gaslighting readers to deceive them into thinking Kelly and Trump have opposing opinions on the border wall.
that is every probe ... new horizons at about 1 kbit/s had a latency of about 5 hrs at Pluto and 7-8 at ultima thule ... wouldn't want to hear anyone say oops at mission control.
TRUMP: “These barriers are made of steel, have see-through visibility, which is very important. …We do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shining sea. We never did. We never proposed that. We never wanted that, because we have barriers at the border where natural structures are as good as anything that we can build.” — remarks Friday in Rose Garden.
THE FACTS: Actually, he did pledge a wall made of concrete along the southern border. It’s true he did not say there needed to be 2,000 miles of it.
“The Congresswoman from Hawaii was talking foreign policy during the debate — specifically the possibility of America going to war with Iran. Important stuff, no doubt. However, as Gabbard spoke many viewers focused on her chin and what appeared to be a tiny zit — nothing that would require Dr. Pimple Popper or anything, but still … it was there,” TMZ reported. “Then it happened. Seriously, if you haven’t seen it … YOU MUST. Within a matter of seconds the blemish simply vanished … AS Tulsi was talking!!! Remember, this is on a close-up camera, ON live television.”
While her mom is Indian, Kamala's father is Jamaican and a hardcore pro-Communist economics professor who IIRC was on a student visa when she was born. Fully agree with the last sentence.
Yet if my cloud service is hacked... I go to jail (CA Data Privacy starting Jan 1, Iowa criminal code today). If LEOs can get in, criminals have a welcome mat.
THE DEEP STATE HAS WANTED THIS AT LEAST SINCE THE CLINTON-ERA “CLIPPER CHIP” FIASCO: “Senior Trump administration officials met on Wednesday to discuss whether to seek legislation prohibiting tech companies from using forms of encryption that law enforcement can’t break.” It’s an awful idea, it’s probably unconstitutional, and why would Trump want to give the Deep State more tools to use against Americans?
Indeed. The political gaslighting going on by Trump, pro-Trump pundits, the Fake News media, Trump's political opponents, you name it, has reached the point of being out of control. Its one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributors to the infighting that occurs on this blog.
I hope the people here who dislike me realize how TK's two recent links about GEN Kelly clearly demonstrate how fellow Trump supporters are sometimes victims of gaslighting. Both of those articles intentionally and dishonestly twisted Kelly's comments out of context to gaslight both Trump supporters as well as Trump haters.
The leftwingers doing the gaslighting are trying to convince voters that Trump is so bad that GEN Kelly, who is highly respected nationwide, opposes Trump's border wall plan. That is Fake News at it's worst. If anything, since Kelly was Trump's Chief of Staff at the time he was probably the person most likely responsible for convincing Trump that a border wall "from sea to shining sea" was not feasible and a "waste of money". The gaslighting in the two articles has the added bonus of deceiving Trump supporters into thinking GEN Kelly is "backstabbing" Trump and trying to undermine him.
Only reason Kelly is getting discussed now was because of the Ann Coulter oped that got linked yesterday. She indirectly called GEN Kelly an imbecile so I made the comment I thought she was full of shit.
Has anyone investigated whether Kamala Harris might just be Obama in drag? Then we'd have constitutional grounds to stop her/his xhi third term. oh wait, Roberts is still on the bench, anything can happen.
I thought it very curious that Trump mentioned NBC's technical failures in a tweet the other night. Maybe he instinctively was on to something
I don’t believe in reincarnation but this gay trans Aztec person at Taco Bell must have got some kind of Jim Nabors upgrade.
Speaking of Sangre de los Indios, how many so called immigrants from the south aren’t even assimilated into Mexican or Guatemalan culture? Quite a few don’t speak or read Spanish, right?
My evergreen podcast DJ Dr E Michael Jones was talking about his trip to Tanzania. He engaged a guy in the few phases of Swahili he knew and the guy went to town. Dr Jones stopped the guy and confessed he wasn’t fluent in Swahili and the guy asked,”Then why did you come to Tanzania?”
There was an old joke that needs to be retired. A person who speaks three languages is trilingual. A person who speaks two languages is bilingual. A person who speaks one language is an American.
Testing!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | June 28, 2019 at 10:20 AM
Wow, clarice has TM-level posting privileges? TIL
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 10:30 AM
whoa a thread with no name and clarice dusting off here posting privileges.
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 10:55 AM
I HATE these black robed tyrants:
Fox: "The Supreme Court has agreed to decide whether plans by the Trump administration to end the so-called DACA program for young undocumented immigrants can proceed.
The justices announced Friday they will hear oral arguments on the appeal in its next term, which begins in October. A ruling is expected in the presidential election year, putting the high court at the center of one of the most politically charged issues."
Right up there with yesterday's comment about SCOTUS saying a constitutional act by a constitutional official doing his constitutional job in pursuit of a constitutionally mandated assignment, consistent with how the job had been done by administration after administration down through the ages of this republic...was turned back because Roberts said it smelled funny.
We have become a Saturday Night Live skit from back when they were funny.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:01 AM
Hi Porch.
:-)
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:01 AM
John Roberts sucks. Change my mind.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 11:04 AM
Hi OL! :)
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 11:04 AM
Can't do that for you, Porch.
U B Right about Roberts.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:06 AM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/john-kelly-unloads-working-for-trump-was-awful-his-border-wall-is-stupid
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 28, 2019 at 11:06 AM
Oops. Wrong thread.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 28, 2019 at 11:06 AM
DuckDuckGo worked for me, although I did have to sign back in using Typepad.
Posted by: Davod | June 28, 2019 at 11:09 AM
the thread with no name... is TM on strike?
Posted by: henry | June 28, 2019 at 11:11 AM
Classy guy, that John Kelly.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
Why is the border wall stupid? The only way to keep people out is with a physical barrier.
Posted by: Davod | June 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
Dread pirate roberts (ht marko) is every one of tribes students an idiot?
Posted by: Narciso79 | June 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
it is a clarice takeover. she's patrolling with the pistolas!
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 11:13 AM
italics up, don't shoot!
Posted by: henry | June 28, 2019 at 11:14 AM
I think he just called ALL of us stupid, Davod.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM
That's not a pistola in her left hand!!
It's a BANHAMMER!!11!! Run away! Run Away! Run away!
- Said Brave, Brave, Sir Robin.
Posted by: Melinda | June 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM
So Kamala Harris proved herself capable if Obama level misdirection?
Posted by: Narciso79 | June 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM
>>>Why is the border wall stupid? The only way to keep people out is with a physical barrier.
Posted by: Davod | June 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM<<<
argue the strawman ... of course we aren't going to build the great wall of north america but maybe some actual border enforcement including physical barriers wold be worthwhile.
i still find it strange Gen Kelly got high level administration slots.
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 11:19 AM
Yes.
She's now denying she raised he hand on illegales.
Posted by: Melinda | June 28, 2019 at 11:20 AM
I love John McPhee, also, and could care less if he is a liberal. None of his books or essays have been political but fascinating discoveries of writing you can't put down. His books on American geology are an example were detail is welcome.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/28/twilight-master-essayist-john-mcphee-beautiful/?utm_campaign=ACTENGAGE
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 28, 2019 at 11:22 AM
Posted by: Narciso79 | June 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM
you don't say!
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM
I was watching some old movie about NASA sending a probe into deep space but still wanting to control it with radio signals. The lag time for the signal out and back was so long that it made for tense moments.
Strikes me that that is how we are asking Trump to manage the biggest government on this planet. Issue an order. Wait for it to get to some court somewhere. Wait for that court to think about it. Wait for the answer to come home. React and repeat.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:27 AM
I know crazy right?
Who is the clerk who wrote that ridiculous opinion, it's like he look at nfib v sibelius and said hold my beer.
Posted by: Narciso79 | June 28, 2019 at 11:27 AM
Well they so have telemetry but one cant see what obstacles they face until the signal comes back.
Posted by: Narciso79 | June 28, 2019 at 11:30 AM
Since TK posted it here as well as the last thread, I will bring over my response.
TK,
Thank you for the second Kelly article. Both are reporting on Kelly's comments made at Duke. The titles of both articles demonstrate the gaslighting going on, which apparently you (as well as OL and Davod) fell for.
Kelly never said the border wall was "stupid". That's a leftwinger Vanity Fair writer making shit up. Aside from the title of the article the word "stupid" isn't even included anywhere else in the article. Kelly's position that there is no need for a border wall "from sea to shining sea" is the same position as Trump's. It would indeed be a "waste of money" to build a 30'+ wall in areas where it was not needed, which is why Trump is not advocating for that.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Bet Clarice has no idea she started a new thread. How fun!
Posted by: Jane | June 28, 2019 at 11:44 AM
of course we aren't going to build the great wall of north America but maybe some actual border enforcement including physical barriers wold be worthwhile.
100% correct and also the same position both Trump and Kelly share. Both articles TK linked (apparently thinking they refuted my criticism of Coulter's dishonest rant) are gaslighting readers to deceive them into thinking Kelly and Trump have opposing opinions on the border wall.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 11:27 AM
that is every probe ... new horizons at about 1 kbit/s had a latency of about 5 hrs at Pluto and 7-8 at ultima thule ... wouldn't want to hear anyone say oops at mission control.
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 11:47 AM
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ap-fact-check-trumps-shift-on-a-concrete-border-wall
TRUMP: “These barriers are made of steel, have see-through visibility, which is very important. …We do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shining sea. We never did. We never proposed that. We never wanted that, because we have barriers at the border where natural structures are as good as anything that we can build.” — remarks Friday in Rose Garden.
THE FACTS: Actually, he did pledge a wall made of concrete along the southern border. It’s true he did not say there needed to be 2,000 miles of it.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 11:52 AM
an fyi i have no idea why tom brought me into his pissing contest. i was responding to davod.
Posted by: rich | June 28, 2019 at 11:52 AM
Rich,
Because you made the same point Trump and GEN Kelly made which I agreed with.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 11:54 AM
She's now denying she raised he hand on illegales.
I saw it with my own eyes, as did millions.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 12:00 PM
So was I, Rich.
It is not a pissing contest unless somebody pisses back.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 28, 2019 at 12:00 PM
It’s true he did not say there needed to be 2,000 miles of it.
And that would be the crucial difference wouldn't it AP, you lying apparatchiks.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 12:01 PM
#pimplegate
“The Congresswoman from Hawaii was talking foreign policy during the debate — specifically the possibility of America going to war with Iran. Important stuff, no doubt. However, as Gabbard spoke many viewers focused on her chin and what appeared to be a tiny zit — nothing that would require Dr. Pimple Popper or anything, but still … it was there,” TMZ reported. “Then it happened. Seriously, if you haven’t seen it … YOU MUST. Within a matter of seconds the blemish simply vanished … AS Tulsi was talking!!! Remember, this is on a close-up camera, ON live television.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/damonheller/status/1144068837584691200
Posted by: Neo | June 28, 2019 at 12:01 PM
What is going on?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | June 28, 2019 at 12:05 PM
And Yang's microphone suffered individual, and timely outages, like when he would try and speak.
Donna Brazile passed her Dem Secretish bag o' tricks over to Tommy "X as in Marx" Perez.
Posted by: Melinda | June 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM
Hah!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/27/chuck-todd-spoke-more-words-debate-7-democrat-candidates/
Posted by: Melinda | June 28, 2019 at 12:12 PM
Discussing Tulsi has TK offered up any comments on her being born in American Samoa. At least it's an American conclave unlike Cruz's Canada.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 28, 2019 at 12:14 PM
She's now denying she raised he hand on illegales.
Actually she is saying she didn't understand the question.
Posted by: Jane | June 28, 2019 at 12:15 PM
BTW Kamilla isn't black, her parents are both Indians. And she grew up in Canada. And her lies know no bounds.
Posted by: Jane | June 28, 2019 at 12:16 PM
she is saying she didn't understand the question
what a coincidence. she doesn't understand economics either.
Posted by: henry | June 28, 2019 at 12:19 PM
Jane,
While her mom is Indian, Kamala's father is Jamaican and a hardcore pro-Communist economics professor who IIRC was on a student visa when she was born. Fully agree with the last sentence.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 12:21 PM
I think I read that Harris is one quarter black. Her dad is from the West Indies and is half black. And he doesn't support her candidacy at all.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 12:23 PM
Didn't understand the question. Yeah right. They talked about it for several minutes afterwards. Liar.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 12:24 PM
Yet if my cloud service is hacked... I go to jail (CA Data Privacy starting Jan 1, Iowa criminal code today). If LEOs can get in, criminals have a welcome mat.
THE DEEP STATE HAS WANTED THIS AT LEAST SINCE THE CLINTON-ERA “CLIPPER CHIP” FIASCO: “Senior Trump administration officials met on Wednesday to discuss whether to seek legislation prohibiting tech companies from using forms of encryption that law enforcement can’t break.” It’s an awful idea, it’s probably unconstitutional, and why would Trump want to give the Deep State more tools to use against Americans?
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/334564/
Posted by: henry | June 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM
Porch @ 12:01
Indeed. The political gaslighting going on by Trump, pro-Trump pundits, the Fake News media, Trump's political opponents, you name it, has reached the point of being out of control. Its one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributors to the infighting that occurs on this blog.
I hope the people here who dislike me realize how TK's two recent links about GEN Kelly clearly demonstrate how fellow Trump supporters are sometimes victims of gaslighting. Both of those articles intentionally and dishonestly twisted Kelly's comments out of context to gaslight both Trump supporters as well as Trump haters.
The leftwingers doing the gaslighting are trying to convince voters that Trump is so bad that GEN Kelly, who is highly respected nationwide, opposes Trump's border wall plan. That is Fake News at it's worst. If anything, since Kelly was Trump's Chief of Staff at the time he was probably the person most likely responsible for convincing Trump that a border wall "from sea to shining sea" was not feasible and a "waste of money". The gaslighting in the two articles has the added bonus of deceiving Trump supporters into thinking GEN Kelly is "backstabbing" Trump and trying to undermine him.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 12:30 PM
A felon who by law cannot possess a firearm? A day ending in y.
Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
1m
Update: Officials identify suspect accused in shooting death of Racine Officer John Hetland as felon Dalquavis Ward via.fox6now.com/Hl17E
Posted by: henry | June 28, 2019 at 12:30 PM
Pretty bad when after listening to those 20 candidates, Kamala Harris is the only one you'd want on your side in a knife fight.
And then, only if she was in front of you.
Posted by: Buckeye | June 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM
I can't figure out the Kelly angle, Tom R. I don't trust many sources. Seems not worth fighting about most of the time, though.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 28, 2019 at 12:35 PM
Porch,
Only reason Kelly is getting discussed now was because of the Ann Coulter oped that got linked yesterday. She indirectly called GEN Kelly an imbecile so I made the comment I thought she was full of shit.
Posted by: Tom R | June 28, 2019 at 12:45 PM
Vanity Fair is mostly the former.
Posted by: Melinda | June 28, 2019 at 12:45 PM
Footage has surfaced that shows what was happening on the other side of the chain link fence that made AOC cry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbN9nwrAbFs
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 28, 2019 at 12:54 PM
How bad is it on the border? This bad:
Unknown medical issues and diseases.
A 10 year old girl found with 20 different semens inside her.
More an inhumanitarian crisis than anything.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/texas-medical-professional-migrants-quarantined-with-unknown-disease-10-year-old-girl-found-with-20-types-of-semen-in-her/
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 28, 2019 at 12:55 PM
You all should pop over to the new thread and check out the nifty chart.
Posted by: Gentlejim | June 28, 2019 at 12:58 PM
Kamala mother is from India and her father was from Jamaica.
"Jamaica?"
Willie Brown: "Yes, I did."
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 28, 2019 at 12:59 PM
Apologize for starting this thread. I've no idea how this happened.
Posted by: clarice | June 28, 2019 at 01:58 PM
Has anyone investigated whether Kamala Harris might just be Obama in drag? Then we'd have constitutional grounds to stop her/his xhi third term. oh wait, Roberts is still on the bench, anything can happen.
I thought it very curious that Trump mentioned NBC's technical failures in a tweet the other night. Maybe he instinctively was on to something
Posted by: peter | June 28, 2019 at 03:09 PM
20 different "varities" of SEMEN....... DIVERSITY!!!!!!!!!!!
Get WAYFAIR on the phone!!!
Posted by: GUS | June 28, 2019 at 05:05 PM
I'm so so so sorry. I thought the 20 varities were inside of KAMALTOE.
Posted by: GUS | June 28, 2019 at 05:07 PM
Is this Clarice prepping the pistolas?
Posted by: Another Bob | June 28, 2019 at 06:46 PM
I don’t believe in reincarnation but this gay trans Aztec person at Taco Bell must have got some kind of Jim Nabors upgrade.
Speaking of Sangre de los Indios, how many so called immigrants from the south aren’t even assimilated into Mexican or Guatemalan culture? Quite a few don’t speak or read Spanish, right?
Posted by: Pinandpuller | June 28, 2019 at 09:20 PM
My evergreen podcast DJ Dr E Michael Jones was talking about his trip to Tanzania. He engaged a guy in the few phases of Swahili he knew and the guy went to town. Dr Jones stopped the guy and confessed he wasn’t fluent in Swahili and the guy asked,”Then why did you come to Tanzania?”
Posted by: Pinandpuller | June 28, 2019 at 09:28 PM
There was an old joke that needs to be retired. A person who speaks three languages is trilingual. A person who speaks two languages is bilingual. A person who speaks one language is an American.
Posted by: Pinandpuller | June 28, 2019 at 09:46 PM