No Tariffs On Mexico

Trump announces a dramatic last-minute deal! Peter Baker of the Times goes on at length on a pint I have made before (Where? Hmm... this from Mar 2018 for sure.) - Trump creates this drama and then solves it. Or at least, "solves" it. North Korea has been the most harrowing example but the China trade war (with an inevitable "victory" in time to keep the economy humming for November 2020) is becoming the most consequential.

Comments

[Narciso]

McAfee is crazy, but the legal malfeasance hes been put through I'd extreme.

[Jane]

"JIB, my mom use to say that she thought it had to be biological because no one would ever choose something that makes life so hard."

Robin for the win! It's not a choice.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Not. But Webb Simpson does to finish 2nd.

Rory bogies 18 for a 61 but wins by a mile.

[Manuel Transmission]

I may have mentioned this before, but I recall that after the war, Britain discovered a huge sub population of boys born during the blitz who ended up gay. The presumption was that the extraordinary stress imposed on the pregnant mothers from the bombing caused some change in their development. Might have also had something to do with missing/lost fathers, I suppose, but that may have been taken into account.

So, nurture at the most primal level?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/another-way-google-manipulates-votes-without-us-knowing-a-go-vote-reminder-is-not-what-you-think-it-is_2754073.html

I am not sure this manipulates as much as this guy says it does, but am putting it up for people to take a look at.

[GUS]

It's a choice. Everything you do is a choice.
Is pedophilia a choice??

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Robin, et. al.

I agree. That is why I posted the counter-science arguments to the thesis that is not born a developed condition.

Having a nuclear family with a father who leads instead of being separate is important but then there are exceptions which tell me it is not environmental but either genetic or a wiring issue.

[Narciso]

The basilisk is a den of scum and villainy:

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/06/media-falsely-paints-trump-sons-as.html?spref=fb&fbclid=IwAR2Y9Rfh-fBhg0bx_T75Zf9R6OjeVqazeO-ZQqQGy5g9cgGhMvL5oFkvYpI&m=1

[GUS]

I don't believe gay people need to defend how or why they are or became gay. I do see ALL OF THE TIME, well meaning people trying TRYING to like gay people. I don't need to try. I like someone or I don't like someone based on their character or behavior towards others.

[sbwaters]

It's a choice. Everything you do is a choice.

Pfoui!

You can be right and wrong at the same time.

An alcoholic has a choice. Doesn’t mean the temptation isn’t compelling.

[Another Bob]

MT, “ended up gay”? Methodology? The poll or study or whatever would have been done in the ‘60s, right?

[sbwaters]

I don't need to try. I like someone or I don't like someone based on their character or behavior towards others.

Bingo!

[Another Bob]

“ I like someone or I don't like someone based on their character or behavior towards others.”

Precisely. And part of that is not requiring me to carry some of your backpack of issues.

[Another Bob]

RBG is getting quoted in pieces like this one:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/447576-ginsburg-credits-kavanaugh-for-helping-boost-number-of-female

Is she making these comments in front of audiences? This piece seems ambiguous on that.

Have there been any RBG sightings?

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Geez, I only wanted to debunk a study with counter science it has turned into who agrees and who doesn't agree. This is exactly the problem with an opinion that will not accept scientific exception. I was not making an opinion on gayness but how the science was delivered. Next time I know to not bring up science or math or logic.

It was not about Gays but about science and how it can be turned into a political argument without the hint of proof. Yes, I repeat myself for a reason.

[Captain Hate]

I can't think of the street, it could be lower Fillmore, but the blogger zombie chronicled a gay festival there and it did not do gay's any favors.

Folsom Street.

[Narciso]

Have there been studies of brain chemistry or other physiological markers, since the genetic theory has proven limited

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

CH,

Thanks. Exactly. Folsom Street Fair. Talk about the dark bottom of humanity.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

narc,
Yes. Lots of studies. I can post them but since you are a Google aficionado, I will leave it up to you. Surprise us:)

[Another Bob]

Jack, problem 1 is science itself has been politicized, and there’s no good way for rank-and-file folks to know the junk science when they see it.

So people go with their gut, or whatever evidence they themselves can see.

[Narciso]

It seems like they took poi as a how to guide:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/9/robert-mueller-exploited-cell-phone-gps-track-trum/?fbclid=IwAR2BISxdrX6mj5P-95MP2pCUQOwJUMYIfMIfRwV7lGmZ8fgb1bp7Y74vdq0

[sbwaters]

JiB, I repeat, I have no problem with what you said or how you said it. It is a valid and important point often missed.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

AB,

I doubt Dr. J will agree with that assumption. I have former associates who are science first, citizen second when it comes to their work. Sure, we have politically targetted science, AGW comes to mind. But the full academy can see through that.

[Pinandpuller]

Justin Amash destroyed by Trump supporter at town hall: https://youtu.be/hf2hjR73-Hs

[Narciso]

Well here's one;

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/9/robert-mueller-exploited-cell-phone-gps-track-trum/?fbclid=IwAR2BISxdrX6mj5P-95MP2pCUQOwJUMYIfMIfRwV7lGmZ8fgb1bp7Y74vdq0

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4m4 minutes ago

For two years all the Democrats talked about was the Mueller Report, because they knew that it was loaded up with 13 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, later increased to 18. But despite the bias, when the Report came out, the findings were No Collusion and facts that led to........

....No Obstruction. The Dems were devastated - after all this time and money spent ($40,000,000), the Mueller Report was a disaster for them. But they want a Redo, or Do Over. They are even bringing in @CNN sleazebag attorney John Dean. Sorry, no Do Overs - Go back to work!

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

sbw,

Just wanted you to know my differentiation to what the board was expecting. Thanks.

[Extraneus]

Not that I'm interested in the subject, but since you guys seem to be (NTTAWWT) I thought it might be worth looking into the incidence of homosexuality in other primates. Unfortunately, almost everything I could find in a cursory search seemed skewed by an advocate for one or the other human theory.

Apparently there is plenty of evidence of homosexual activity in other primates, but nothing I could see that indicated that there were exclusive homosexuals who actually preferred their own gender.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

The Failing @nytimes story on Mexico and Illegal Immigration through our Southern Border has now been proven shockingly false and untrue, bad reporting, and the paper is embarrassed by it. The only problem is that they knew it was Fake News before it went out. Corrupt Media!

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Clarice - Loved your Pieces a usual but what I loved the most is the illustration that you included of AOC. It particulary exposed the evil that dwells within her.

In other news Mr. TLG won his run off election and is now a proud councilman of Fairview, Texas. Won by 70% of the vote

[Extraneus]

Congrats to Mr. TLG.

[Another Bob]

DrJ is free to disagree. I did not say every scientist is crooked.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Wow. TLG. Congrats to Hubby.

[Pinandpuller]

Do you believe in free will or preordination? From what I’ve read Tourette’s is an obsessive compulsive disorder. The people who suffer from it can control their tics but it’s like an itch.

Scratching an itch can be satisfying or you can destroy your protective epidermis and end up dead.

Many itches don’t need to be scratched in front of kids. Some itches are not normal and can be treated.

And the bottom line is, itches sure as shit don’t need parades.

[Narciso]

Great news tlg.

I was watching part of a prisoner marathon on comet (the sci fi cgannel) and you look ar the news in nearly umcomprehending ways.

This our mam in Moscow routine that became a true travesty, a real immigration crisis that is being denied like thd argument clinic

[Neo]

Judge Walton confirmed the IRS's wrongdoing, saying that discrimination on the basis of name, association, or political viewpoint violates our First Amendment rights.

The reprimand continued as Judge Walton also ruled that True the Vote receive a "bad faith enhancement" to its requested attorney's fees.

The case's conclusion and judge's opinion are "clear and convincing evidence necessary for a finding of bad faith" in their discrimination against True the Vote.

True the Vote requested a recovery amount of $1.9 million in attorneys' fees. The total award amount is still pending.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2019/june/true-the-vote-wins-big-case-after-decade-long-battle-with-irs

[Melinda]

Angela was upset iBama spied on her?

http://www.tiranatimes.com/?p=142081

Well maybe it was because of that?

[Narciso]

Canadian menace will not be senied:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/9th-u-s-circuit-court-of-appeals-panel-nullifies-barrier-to-keystone-xl-pipeline/amp/

[Narciso]

Yes there is a sizable Albanian community in Germany like the one depicted in taken

[Extraneus]

So I don't remember if I mentioned it but I got an Alexa device for the car - a ROAV VIVA. Pretty nice.

"Alexa, what's today's forecast?"

"Alexa, how's the stock market doing?"

"Alexa, tell Roomba to clean."

"Alexa, what's the capital of Australia?"

"Alexa, what's the square root of 238?"

Etc.

[Melinda]

Stealing Home, Rangers: https://twitter.com/Rangers/status/1137859262888042496

[GUS]

TLG, don't let Mr TLG get a big head. 10 gallon is big enough.

[Narciso]

Lopp witts, is this thing on:

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2019/06/07/the-rise-of-progressive-occultism/

[henry]

Saavedra (vid at link):

Democrat presidential candidate Eric Swalwell: “I will be bold without the bull”

Swalwell pauses, appearing to expect applause from the audience

No one claps

https://twitter.com/realsaavedra/status/1137821371084419072?s=21

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I’ll keep that in mind Gus😉

[Narciso]

I'm sure that not necessary gus.

[Another Bob]

My first question ext, is - why?

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

https://twitter.com/SecAzar/status/1126620079918022658

https://twitter.com/SecAzar/status/1126594361343578113

https://twitter.com/SecAzar/status/1126593948326268928

https://twitter.com/SecAzar/status/1126593614929436673

https://twitter.com/SecAzar/status/1126593428769378304

These tweets are about the administration's efforts to end the HIV epidemic, and how they have secured donations of a preventative medicine from Gilead Sciences, Inc.

[Narciso]

Walton blows hot and cold, if you remember the plame case and then mist recently the emails

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Melissa A.
‏ @TheRightMelissa
8h8 hours ago
Replying to @realDonaldTrump

For the few conservatives they have left on, twitter is engaged in shadow banning of conservative content. For example twitter has made it such that my followers will not see my tweets in trending topics. Big Tech is colluding with Democrats to shut down opposition. Fascism

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Swalwell is proving how weak a field the Dems have.

Why anyone outside some congressional district in CA even care about him?

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Candace Owens
‏Verified account @RealCandaceO
24h24 hours ago

Black America has been destroyed by liberal policies, a liberal media and a liberal stranglehold on culture.

Democrats have trained us to celebrate our past oppressions as if it might catapult us into the future.

Emotion and anger is an express lane to failure.

#BLEXIT

[GUS]

There is something very WRONG about Swallwell and Schiff.
I'm guessing they didn't play well with the other boys.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Charlie Kirk
‏Verified account @charliekirk11
9h9 hours ago

It’s amazing to see Democrats within a span of 2 days go from being against Trump’s tariffs on Mexico to now being against the fact Trump negotiated a deal without any tariffs

[Extraneus]

Why?

Well, I'm a big Alexa fan. I have Show and Spot devices at home, which I've described here. I hate Google, even though their device is smarter, but I like having a willing and available assistant who has the encyclopedia memorized, and can navigate, make and answer calls, and do other tasks in addition to answering questions. I have a Garmin that takes voice commands, but navigation is all it does. I have a phone that you can say "OK, Google" to, but as I say, I'm not a Google fan. Plus, I find Alexa's voice more appealing that Google's.

[Pinandpuller]

Who was it the other day asking about White people in the Bible? Esau means red and Edom means red or sunburned. Who gets sunburned? I know Black people get tan lines for sure but come on now.

I bring that up because of several OT passages talking about God hating Esau or Edom, even in the womb I believe. Why did he hate him/them?

The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou who dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high, who saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground? (Obadiah 3)

Pride takes everyone down.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Bill Mitchell
‏Verified account @mitchellvii
5h5 hours ago

Trump wins historic landslide election.

Democrats - "Russia did it."

Trump sets economic records.

Democrats - "Obama did it."

Trump strikes historic immigration deal with Mexico.

Democrats - "Nothing changed."

[Narciso]

No that was brooksie not responding to a question about dark skinned people:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/clay-waters/2019/06/09/ny-times-runs-elaborate-front-page-sunday-smear-youtube

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Bill Mitchell
‏Verified account @mitchellvii
5h5 hours ago

Next we get to watch the Democrat Civil War between the Socialists and the Establishment during the debates in a race to see who can hate America the most to secure the Democrat Nomination.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

henry,

How is your seat of nails tonight?

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

Breitbart News
‏Verified account @BreitbartNews
4h4 hours ago

.@senronjohnson: "I called the Mexican ambassador and said regardless of what you read in the press, understand if the president is serious about this, there are not votes to override. Take that threat seriously."

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/09/gop-sen-johnson-trump-used-tariffs-brilliantly-in-mexico-negotiations/?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

[henry]

Plush JiB. I expect nothing.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

henry,

We had a saying in the expat community: "Expect the worse, be pleasantly surprised."

[MissMarple2]

https://www.waynedupree.com/charlotte-barbershop-owner-raises-funds-to-help-14-hs-students-clear-debt-to-graduate-with-class/

A nice story on someone making a difference.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

My wife found out that our dog (a Schnauzer) could hardly hear, so she took it to the veterinarian. The vet found that the problem was hair in the dog's ears. He cleaned both ears, and the dog could then hear fine.

The vet then proceeded to tell Andrea that, if she wanted to keep this from recurring, she should go to the store and get some "Nair" hair remover and rub it in the dog's ears once a month.

Andrea went to the store and bought some "Nair" hair remover. At the register, the pharmacist told her, "If you're going to use this under your arms, don't use deodorant for a few days." Andrea said, "I'm not using it under my arms."

The pharmacist said, "If you're using it on your legs, don't use body lotion for a couple of days." Andrea replied, "I'm not using it on my legs either. If you must know, I'm using it on my Schnauzer."

The pharmacist says, "Well, stay off your bicycle for about a week."

[clarice]

I'm with you, Gus. Judge people on their own.

[Pinandpuller]

When I was a kid my dad had these circular magnets that were split in half. I used to have fun trying to push the like poles together. I didn’t realize all I had to do was convince the two like poles they were in love and buy them a cake.

[Jane]

ABob,

As you know, my biz partner is a lesbian. She and Mary, a cardiologist have 2 kids (from the same father). Both kids are straight. Amy is the best parent i’ve Ever seen. They have men in their lives, tho not a father. Having grown up without a father I would have killed to grow up in a home like that.

Not all heterosexual families are ideal. But ideal parents are a gift from God.

[Another Bob]

I’ve done a little development work relating to Alexa-enabling devices.

I’m one of those curmudgeons who has a general problem with always-on microphones (with cameras coming) in my home, car, etc. going to places unknown being used for reasons unknown.

I suppose these days, that’s a bit get-off-my-lawnish.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.newsmax.com/ruddy/london-donald-trump-visit-christopher-ruddy/2019/06/09/id/919559/

My London driver knows President Trump. (He truly does, used to do the limo service for Mar-a-Lago.)

[Narciso]

It seemed fishy to me:

https://irancommentary.wordpress.com/2019/06/09/my-twitter-account-has-been-suspended/

[Jane]

Gus,

That is the only thing you have ever said about gays, I agree with, “they need to be treated like everyone else”. I look forward to you doing that.

[Pinandpuller]

I will treat people as individuals but I refuse to pander to the gay trans Boy Scout leader who insists South is North.

[Jane]

No one said you should pin.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Up is North. Get with the program. :)

City Slickers

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President. Link goes to a cartoon.

The Trump-hating media/dems now face a YUGE dilemma--how NOT to give @realDonaldTrump credit.#MexicoCavesAfterTariffThreat pic.twitter.com/VCzIZd0ExF

— Larry Elder (@larryelder) June 8, 2019

[Another Bob]

I’ve owned up to the bell-shaped curves Jane. I wish Mary, Amy and the kids the best. Your post a while back about the success of one of the daughters shows they’re likely well on their way to being successful adults.

IMO, as good as you see the kids’ lives with their non-father male role models, a father who lives with and is committed (e.g married) to their mother and loves them all would be better.

YMMV, but I’m pretty sure.

[Narciso]

You would think this would be a bigger story sarc:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/facebook-gave-data-access-to-chinese-firm-flagged-by-us-intelligence.html?fbclid=IwAR30DSfcefWV9q_5gCAhEQjVGu5UvsBw-XEOSxoJFg2mmS8FaRlL1Q-U5Sw

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Yay! Congrats, Mr TLG

[Another Bob]

Funniest thing I’ve heard today.

Dodgers playing Giants in SF.
Dodgers’ Max Muncy launches a homer well into the bay.
Giants’ pitcher Madison Bumgarner thinks Muncy is admiring it too much and tells him so.
Muncy’s response:

“You don’t want me to watch the ball? Go get it out of the ocean.”

[MissMarple2]

There are so many depressing tweets about abortion, but this is a really inspiring story about a woman and her husband who made it through a high-risk twin pregnancy and refused abortion.

There is a beautiful video at the bottom of the article.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/pregnant-womans-ultrasound-reveals-high-risk-momo-twins-but-she-rejects-option-to-abort_2955013.html

[Another Bob]

And BTW Jane, probably no such thing as ideal parents. They all make mistakes.

[Extraneus]

I’m one of those curmudgeons who has a general problem with always-on microphones (with cameras coming) in my home, car, etc.

I hear ya, but once I realized that Google had all of my emails, every receipt from everything I'd ever bought online (most of which were from Amazon), all of my correspondents and every private email I'd sent anyone, I moved to Fastmail and Brave browser or Yandex on the phone. So Google now knows nothing about me, unless I leave my Android phone's location services on, and I never see their ads. Amazon already knew plenty, and I trust their motives more than the rest. They're just trying to sell me stuff.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/09/mnuchin-us-economy-is-worlds-bright-spot-no-sign-of-a-recession.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

This has never been about individuals or whether some heterosexuals are bad parents and some homosexuals are good people.
Nor is it about civil rights.
Now, my personal opinion is a homosexual has some type of mental issue as do millions of other people but that itself is neither here nor there either.
This is about culture and the health of society.
I am not aware of a single culture that has normalized and mainstreamed homosexuality and celebrated it that hasn't been on the cusp of failure. I'm not sure it's even a cause so much as a symbol. A culture and a society so enervated and so dissipated that it is reduced to championing a small percentage of people doing some weird stuff as the institutions that sustain it whither is not a healthy one and one that is in dire straights. Doesn't mean it's lost but it better get its stuff together.
One of the unfortunate truths that every society must accept but none seem capable of is if certain characteristics are not disapproved of by society that society will not survive.
What comes after is always worse for not only those who were not asked and told not to tell, but for everyone else as well.
Diversity, unfortunately in the real world, celebrated for its own sake is death as society atomizes and tyranny rises to control the chaos.
And every tolerant good hearted person always thinks it'll be different this time and it never is because human nature and behavior is immutable.

[Narciso]

Oh wait you didnt know, oops:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/09/iran-linked-terrorists-caught-stockpiling-explosives-north-west/

[Jane]

ABob, my problem with that is I didn’t have a father (after age 7). My life would have been a hell of a lot easier i’m Sure if I did. But i’m Surely not going to let anyone take anything from me as a result!

[Narciso]

As with the 'free speech movement' well who could possibly object to that, well theres the rub.

[MissMarple2]

Paul Sperry
‏ @paulsperry_
6h6 hours ago

Sen. Grassley has put a hold on a top IC nominee b/c of ODNI Dan Coats' refusal to share #SpyGate documents: "I learned that the Justice Department has taken the position that Director Coats has prohibited them from sharing the requested records with the [Judiciary] Committee."

[Narciso]

You ought to consider where you are george:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/09/the-conservative-sensibility-review-george-will-trump

[Pinandpuller]

Every heresy has its root in confusing nature and person-St John of Damascus

[Narciso]

Omg the irony can open up the multiverse:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-06-06/herbert-sandler-of-golden-west-and-propublica-didn-t-like-crooks

[Narciso]

Wait this one leads straight to vormir:

https://archives.cjr.org/feature/the_education_of_herb_and_marion.php

[MissMarple2]

BREAKING: Crane falls in Downtown Dallas that was being used on a high rise apartment complex.

It is believed to have fell due to a storm that was passing through. pic.twitter.com/7Oqkd5GJ9A

— 𝕄𝔸𝔾𝔸🇺🇸🅟🅐🅣🅡🅘🅞🅣🇺🇸𝕊𝕋𝔼𝕍𝔼™️ (@RealMAGASteve) June 9, 2019

Video at link.

[Narciso]

Mind you this is the same fool who would try to hang Mnuchin for trying to samvage indybank.

[Narciso]

This is why the prisoner marathon seems eerily appropriate.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I'll try to raise a Beasts sighting with the following;
Vettel surely deserved that penalty as he blocked Hamilton with that old garbage scow of a Ferrari.

If that doesn't work we might have to question Bear Bryant's ancestry.

[Jane]

ABob,

Let me continue - would I have been a different person if I had a father? Absolutely. Would I have been a better person? Who knows. When I was 7 I decided I would never get married. Did that open the door for more success? Who knows. Would I have been happier? Who knows? But I an who I am, and it ruffles my feathers when it is implied I could have been better if fate were different. So I apologize if I’m overreacting.

[Manuel Transmission]

AB, no idea how that Brit thing was evaluated, but I can imagine a basic observation that, like many of us might observe, if you used to be able to count gays in your immediate environment on one hand and a decade or two later you run into them everywhere you turn, well, you can draw reasonable conclusions.

For instance in our very liberal neighborhood, I know of one couple who are our next door pals. That and a couple that hang around our community theater.

[Narciso]

Hes been at one or two althouse threads.