Weekend Open Thread

Lots to talk about.

Comments

[Davod]

Found at Instapundit:
"THIS IS BIG: Erdogan Dealt Stunning Blow as Istanbul Elects Rival Candidate: Opposition gets more votes than Erdogan ever did in Istanbul. “Losing Istanbul is much more than ceding control of Turkey’s largest city and commercial powerhouse. The mayor’s job was the springboard for Erdogan’s own political career, and if Imamoglu, 49, performs well in the position, then the president may find himself with a future challenger. . . . Defeat in Istanbul, home to about a fifth of Turkey’s 82 million people, also strips Erdogan’s party of a major source of patronage and handouts. By some estimates, the city absorbs a quarter of all public investment and accounts for a third of the country’s $748 billion economy. Istanbul erupted in celebration over the first opposition victory since Erdogan came to power 16 years ago. Major thoroughfares were packed with cars honking their horns, passengers hanging out of windows and waving Turkish flags through sunroofs.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-23/yildirim-concedes-istanbul-mayor-s-race-to-imamoglu

[MissMarple2]

Listening to Devin Nunes' interview, at the very end he reveals that subpoenas go out tomorrow to Twitter, Facebook, Google etc. because he is filing a $250 million lawsuit against the social media companies.

He wants their books opened and their algorithms explained because it is pretty obvious that conservatives are being discriminated against.

They go to court in August.

[Narciso79]

Wasnt me abha was in one of those provinces won in the 1934 war against idriss prince.

[MissMarple2]

Look at this cake!

There certainly are some creative and patriotic people in this country.

[sbwaters]

take away anything that could be political, like counter-intelligence. Put that under military intelligence.

Yeah, like, what could go wrong with that.

[MissMarple2]

Well, sbwaters, what IS wrong with it, compared to having a whole bunch of political hacks running it out of the Hoover building in DC, covering up any infraction of the democrats and framing Republicans?

Not to mention a good chunk of them feeding info to China or Iran or Russia for cash!

I am willing to entertain another suggestion. Have you got one?

[MissMarple2]

Dan Crenshaw lets Hillary have it in this thread:

https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1142866146816712705

[Narciso79]

Yes that's problematic, the bureau is supposed to be like Scotland yard, only criminal investigation domestic intelligence is mi 5, foreign counterpart to the CIA is mi 6,

[jimmyk]

Catching up, MM's link to that tweet about Schumer had this:

You had 8 years under Barry Soetoro O’Bozo to get this wall built. Instead you were busy getting your daughters best friend pregnant and paying for her to have ... Abortions. This poor girl committed suicide because you told her you loved her.

Is that a real story that I'd somehow missed?

[jimmyk]

This was the Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/PolizziThomas/status/1076276514285649920

[Narciso79]

Maybe he confused him with weiner,

[Narciso79]

Hes got that sinestro looking cranium which ismt conducive I dont think.

[MissMarple2]

jimmyk,

The guy who wrote that was either a New York policeman, EMT, or fireman.

Because I am from the Midwest and have only passed through at JFK airport, I had no idea if that was true or not.

I sure would like to know. If it's true, he needs to be shamed. At the very least.

[Jane]

Jimmy,

I’ve heard it before. No idea if it’s true. But hell, why not?

[MissMarple2]

Jack Posobiec
🇺🇸
‏Verified account @JackPosobiec
1m1 minute ago

BREAKING: Senators Mark Warner and Josh Hawley will introduce legislation tomorrow to require Facebook, Google, Amazon and other major platforms to disclose the value of their users' data

https://www.axios.com/mark-warner-josh-hawley-dashboard-tech-data-4ee575b4-1706-4d05-83ce-d62621e28ee1.html

[Narciso79]

Today's sermon was about this fellow

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/bible-story-of-zacchaeus.html

Who I Imagine Peter dinklage would be thr perfect casting.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.tmz.com/2019/06/23/barack-obama-george-clooney-boat-ride-suits-italy-lake-como/

Nothing suspicious here, no sir. Where is the past Italian president who did the spying for Obama?

[Narciso79]

The point was pin, he had to be suffer to die and resurrected in that way the prophesy had to be fulfilled, the Roman's and the Pharisees had to play their part.

[Narciso79]

Abha was last attacked thr same day ad the two tankers in the gulf.

[sbwaters]

Well, sbwaters, what IS wrong with it

First of all, the military has the firepower but not yet the inclination to misuse it for personal gain.

Second, the military is forbidden to engage in domestic policing.

I’d rather begin to hold people accountable for violating the law.

[Narciso79]

Abha is in the troublesome province of asir, where the master bomber and the general who ran the khashoggi operation is from.

[Narciso79]

But the problem really lies in the leadership not the organizational chart Dulles as well as hoover.

[Narciso79]

Dulles may not have been as evil as David talbotts poison pen, portrays him but he had a clinical detachment about things that was some what fatal

[MissMarple2]

https://social.quodverum.com/@ThomasWic/102317371351040024

Wictor talks about how the ICE raids were probably a strategic deception.

[Buckeye]

I don't know if Deplorable Tommy P. knows what he is talking about or not, but I'm stealing this....

"I wouldn’t piss on your teeth if your gums were on fire"

Clearly a regular guy:)

[MissMarple2]

sbwaters,

OK, but who is going to hold people accountable?

I have avoided being pessimistic, but that article of Sundance's sounded to me like about every damn person in the FBI is in on the cover-up. And probably at least half of the DOJ.

I feel like running through DC like Gomer Pyle yelling "Citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest!"

[Narciso79]

I'd say the top three layers at least miss marple, down to task force level.

[Narciso79]

Say what now:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/334061/

[Momto2]

Trump accuser with Lisa Bloom (see link below)

Commenter wrote:
And in case you forgot, I'll remind you: Lisa Bloom, daughter of Gloria Allred, was exposed during the 2016 election to be bribing women to accuse Trump. We have her emails that show the offer getting bigger the closer to the election. She even wrote "We're running out of time"

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1142489127709024256

[James D.]

The: tearing down FBI/DoJ:

It’s like a house that has an infestation of termites. If it gets bad enough, and they do sufficient damage, eventually you have no choice but to tear eveverytging down, right to the foundation.

Yes, you have to rebuild, because you need a house. And yes, the new house will likely look a lot like the old house. But you need to tear it down and exterminate all the termites that were there.

And, yes, you’ll eventually get termites in the rebuilt house, too. But st least the new infestation will start small and be easier to fight, at least for a while.

[MissMarple2]

Next week we will have to keep our eyes open.

Possibilities:

1. Dems and intelligence tried to entrap Trump into starting a war. I am hopeful he cause some of them leaking info to the Iranians, since he was smart enough to have a photographer from the White House take that video of Pelosi and Schumer reacting with glee after they met with him.

2. Nunes hinting about criminal referrals for important actors in this (possibly Wray and Boente).

3. Clinton connections to the NXIVM cult came out Friday.

4. The President leaves for the G20, with meetings with Xi.

5. Border crisis 2-week dedline with the dems looking bad and Mexico improving their standing.

That's all I can think of now, but things sure do seem to be heating up!

[Pinandpuller]

I’ve been noticing a lot of people lately, like the much maligned PDJT, giving references like Two Thessalonians or One Corinthians. Is that Confirmation Bias or The Mandela Effect?

[MissMarple2]

Ugh. Typo.

Should read "I am hopeful he CAUGHT some of leaking info to the Iranians..."

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Anonamom,

The craft community has gone insane. I was just about to post that Ravelry news. Apparently, there was a knit designer who posted there under the name "Deplorable Knitter" and presented patterns supportive of the president. Someone on the site used the flag function designed to bring awareness to pattern errors to report the pattern content to the owners of the site, and because of how this reporting can't be done anonymously, Deplorable Knitter doxed the complainer on Instagram. So Ravelry pulled down all her patterns and have issued this ban on Trump support on the site, including discussions on forums.

[Narciso79]

The problem, is what ness discovered in putting his team together, it's hard to avoid corrupting influences

[MissMarple2]

NXIVM: VERDICT SHEET JURORS USED IN THEIR DECISION

✔︎ Sexual Exploitation of Children - PROVEN
✔︎ Child Sex Trafficking - PROVEN
✔︎ Child Pornography - PROVEN
✔︎ Human Trafficking - PROVEN
✔︎ Conspiracy - PROVEN
✔︎ Blackmail - PROVEN
✔︎ Slavery - PROVEN pic.twitter.com/dNCZhpJM54

— Tiffany FitzHenry (@Tiff_FitzHenry) June 21, 2019

Screen cap of verdict sheet at the link.

[Narciso79]

Ian Fleming as aide to admiral godfrey (the real m) was effective because he was creative strategist, he in turn helped organize the OSS

[MissMarple2]

Three related tweets from John Bolton in Israel. All 3 have photos.

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1142908166809804800

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1142908699687751681

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1142908951165591557

Bibi looks pretty happy.

[MissMarple2]

Remember when we were talking about the EPA this morning?

California gives us a perfect example.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/daniel-turner-california-green-energy-pay-to-play-politics

[Narciso79]

I noted this earlier:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ex-top-cia-official-perturbed-by-john-durhams-review-of-intelligence-analysts?fbclid=IwAR3uH5WKa0ViN4rk0Z03QP7omkqmwL7GQrR735fdqgIOzDP5BlN6LkbQmeU

[clarice]

It's hard tp respond to the ravelry nuttieness. It's otherwise a very useful site. I wrote a message to the top officer and if you are a member pls do the same.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/GY34Y0OeAS

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 24, 2019

Link goes to video with Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.

[Narciso79]

It's rather how striking how wrong zhe has been for forty years
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/01/what-will-follow-trumps-cancelled-strike-on-iran/amp

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/gw9cXRTtaR

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 24, 2019

Link goes to Jeanine Pirro's opening statement video.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-23/new-theory-suggests-we-live-gigantic-higher-dimensional-black-hole

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Can't remember who linked this the first time but it is well worth relinking and reading;
This Pride, let’s celebrate shame.
Finally a homosexual with a healthy sense of shame speaks up to try and induce some shame in his flamboyant compadres.

[clarice]

I did, Iggy. I think it's a wonderful article.

[Narciso79]

Any questions:
https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1142821253809606656

[Another Bob]

Great link Ig. I knew some gays thought it, but never thought I’d see one with the guts to say it publicly.

Bravo, Chadwick Moore.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Willis Eschenbach is an extremely smart engineer/scientist etc who often posts threads at Watts Up With That.
His twitter feed is quite eclectic and entertaining

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Credit goes properly to clarice, A-Bob.

[Captain Hate]

A former top CIA official warned of dire consequences from the Justice Department's review of the origins of the Russia investigation.

Fuck this guy in particular.

So this NXIVM case is really real? Have any of the networks, including Fox Business, said anything about it?

During the Jerry Sandusky case, there were a lot of wild ass things being reported that were never resolved; like an earlier investigator disappearing with his car abandoned and laptop innards removed, and how there was a link to highly placed people that proceeded nowhere. Frankly having an ex FBI director conducting an investigation all of a sudden leads more in the coverup territory than previously thought.

I hate to be lied to, whether gaslighting me over nothing or covering something major up. I voted for Trump in large part because I trusted him not to do that. If he disappoints me in that, and I'm not saying he has or will, I'll try to find someone better.

Trump was a major step in getting our country back but he's surely not the only one.

[Narciso79]

It's real, but as usual mist are covering with a cloth, just like the Panama papers faded out when it affected the wrong people like the leaders in Ecuador and venezuela.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

Melinda and I have followed it on Twitter. The only coverage has been from the upstate New York papers. It is absolutely real.

Also, what's important is that Kirsten Gillibrand's father was involved in it, I think her stepmother as well, and the cult bundled a bunch of individual donations to Hillary. I think Podesta had some contacts with them as well.

They also had about 11-12 large daycare centers scattered around the world, including Mexico and the UK as well as the US.

Melinda probably could add more.

[Narciso79]

Just like the awan bros hack, but we see how there are interests that protect the perpetrators. I didmg put much stock in q, because the premises didnt make sense.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-presidential-transition-vetting-rnc-686f1655-8731-43fe-964b-819e541eaee3.html

This explains (according to the source) some of the problems with the vetting process for administration hires.

Looks to me like it got shoved off on inexperienced people in the RNC, who didn't know how to dig into backgrounds. Trump should hire someone like Corey's Digs to do it. That gal can find out anything!

[Captain Hate]

Idiot Jellobrain's father involved is a BFD but we might be getting close to a "what if there was a really big story that the MFM refused to cover" territory. Fortunately we have a President who loves to crash that party.

[Captain Hate]

Looks to me like it got shoved off on inexperienced people in the RNC

Top.Men.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Scientists dropped 17,000 wallets in 40 countries to see who would turn them in...or not.
Interesting and maybe a little surprising, to me anyway, to note the country at the bottom.

[Narciso79]

She looked slightly vampiric in that workout video like the slightly strigoi looking Jean Carroll (just like the ambulance chaser on the strain)

[Another Bob]

Re. that Chadwick Moore piece...

I don’t think the homosexual life today is nearly as hard as is frequently claimed, and certainly not as hard as 50 years ago. But do they not understand how much easier it would be if they could throw the freaks over the side?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/exclusive-corrupt-clinton-foundation-foreign-policy-director-amitabh-desai-appears-to-have-vanished/

[Narciso79]

I was referring to gillebrand, then she did another where she was hosting a kegger.

[Another Bob]

There’s a recent photo making the rounds of E. Jean and Lisa Bloom.

That certainly ups her credibility. /sarc

[Another Bob]

Never mind. I see it above. That’ll teach me to do proper catchup...

[Captain Hate]

maybe a little surprising, to me anyway, to note the country at the bottom.

Why? It's a totalitarian state with active concentration camps for ethnic minorities, about which our unfree press doesn't seem very interested. Minding your own business is surely the safest behavior.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-23/trump-xi-take-center-stage-as-central-banks-shift-economy-week?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business

It;s in Japan and the first meetings are on Tuesday.

[Narciso79]

So a thirty year old retracted allegation was enough to tank puzders nomination whereas he was replaced by epsyeins facilitator in palm beach that's a coimcidence.

[MissMarple2]

I’m heading out today. Our first stops will be in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia & the UAE, two great allies in the challenge that Iran presents, and we’ll be talking with them about how to make sure that we are all strategically aligned and how we can build out a global coalition. pic.twitter.com/txu0pA2xr4

— Secretary Pompeo (@SecPompeo) June 24, 2019

2-minute video with Pompeo at the link.

[Narciso79]

Yet his part in that matter didnt come to light.

[Pinandpuller]

This is about a mayoral election but I think it's good that Texas has a law prohibiting vote harvesting.

Posted by: MissMarple2 | June 23, 2019 at 12:42 PM

Who will pick our votes?

[MissMarple2]

Dark to Light
‏ @pushforward40
4h4 hours ago

Today on CNN @AdamSchiff pulled back his support for impeachment saying he does not feel comfortable to recommend impeachment of @realDonaldTrump! Does anyone else find that odd considering for 2 yrs he said he has concrete evidence that Trump colluded, obstructed & broke laws?
============================
This is odd, assuming the poster is correct. (I don't get CNN so have no idea what he said.)

One wonders if he has pulled back because of information that Barr has on him.

[Narciso79]

Well hes been talking out of his hindquarters so long:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/1142958803375349761

[MissMarple2]

A comment under that tweet above says there is a 4-minute phone call between Schiff and Valerie Jarrett which includes a discussion which could lead to charges of treason.

Again, I have no proof and people just say crap in the comments, so who knows?

Here is the link to the tweet with the comments, if you are interested. There are about 140 right now.

[MissMarple2]

Oops! Here's the link.

https://twitter.com/pushforward40/status/1142913725583777795

[Momto2]

92% of left-wing activists live with their parents and one in three is unemployed, study of Berlin protesters finds:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top

[Captain Hate]

I don't find it odd that Schiff is a gutless liar, if that's responsive to the question posed.

[Momto2]

There may be others but according to a Ravelry person on Twitter, this is an example of the "hateful" patterns that caused Deplorable Knitter to be flagged which started this ball rolling. She designed it to celebrate the President's announcement of his reelection campaign last week.

[Narciso79]

An explanation for the axios leak:

https://mobile.twitter.com/pspoole/status/1142933355996110849

[Narciso79]

I mean he did the vetting, weasel and nose hes blaming somt underlings

[Narciso79]

Shes a crazy hack who was initially triggered by Bristol Palin
https://mobile.twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1142954885505306625

[Captain Hate]

I'll give Cates credit for pointing that out, even if it was begging to be done.

[Pinandpuller]

'Tis but a scratch

[Narciso79]

So doc brown wants to cancel all student debt, not just a portion,

[Pinandpuller]

Tell me again how PDJT is worse than Gov Kate Brown. No Senator is illegal!

[Narciso79]

Boris Johnson is still going to stay with carrie symonds, she could the royal marines older sister

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Why? It's a totalitarian state...--

True. I hadn't really considered that because in all my interactions with Chinese people they have been honest and scrupulous. They never stole any of my laundry or shorted me on the chow mein.
Kidding.
They were however pretty inscrutable. At least I never successfully scruted any...when I could tell them apart.
Kidding again.

[Narciso79]

Mostly authoritarian except they've been picking up the yen for mao of late.

[Momto2]

Here is another example of the "subversive, hateful" patterns that Deplorable Knitter designed. Just imagine the turmoil this caused the over 800,000 members. They banned her and removed ALL of her patterns. They closed the thread where members were asking questions about the policy. Nice!

[MissMarple2]

Momto2,

The Deplorable Knitter should sell her patterns on her own site.

[MissMarple2]

Brandon Straka
‏ @usminority
Jun 22

I spent yesterday afternoon in downtown LA.

I had to see for myself if the conservative media was exaggerating the situation. They haven’t even come close to conveying the actual horror.

I walked blocks & blocks of the tent city & interviewed “residents”. Video coming.
755 replies 5,959 retweets 14,749 likes

======================

This is the really impressive gay guy who founded the Walkaway Campaign. He won an award from the San Diego Republicans this week. When he has the video up I will post it.

[Momto2]

Oops - it's 8 million members, not 800,000.

[Momto2]

I think she will, MM. Many knitters on Twitter say they are deleting their accounts.

[clarice]

I wonder how many patterns for pussy hats had been posted on ravelry.

[Narciso79]

Many many I'm guessing

[MissMarple2]

Guess I will head to bed.

Good night, everyone! I bet tomorrow is going to be busy!

[Pinandpuller]

Elizabeth Warren wants to dole out $50 million dollars for gay reparations. Do we need to give up any first born sons while we're at it? I guess all of that's done under the table.

[Pinandpuller]

I don't if Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olberman are still alive but if they are I bet they would both enjoy a gift card from Bed Bath & Beyond.

[Captain Hate]

Bed, Bathtub Boy and Beyond for THE FOLKS!!

[Pinandpuller]

Why do people insist on pronouncing "erudite" wrong?

Can you imagine if people pronounced the Greek goddess with an extra random vowel like "Af-re-oh-di-tee"?