Nate Silver's 538 has polling indicating post-debate changes in polling position. Unsurprisingly, Biden lost support and Harris gained it. However, more Biden supporters moved to other candidates than to Harris.
Personally, I was delighted to see Kristen Gillibrand's net favorable rating decline, although probably not by a statistically significant margin. Boo 'er off!
You have to admit that the B-2 is some flying machine. I only wish it was during my time. I would have worked my ass off to crew it.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:08 PM
I love this President. What a guy!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 07:09 PM
MM,
What I love is how the left are going apoplectic during his speech and flyovers.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:12 PM
Jack a B-2 flew low and slow over my in-laws house in Washington County, Wisconsin on July 4, about a dozen years ago.
WOW.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:13 PM
Somebody has to teach kids our real history.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 07:13 PM
What a GREat Great speech!
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:15 PM
the author is John Dingell's son
That apple ended up very far from the tree.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 07:15 PM
Indeed since the schools womt do it and they replaced schoolhouse rock with good morning America, not good for anyone.
So how is the inland situation, matt?
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:16 PM
Jib,
Where are you watching the heft?
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:17 PM
DJT has helped the FULL COMMIE back themselves into a corner.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:17 PM
Somebody has to teach kids our real history.
No kidding.
He can do this next year, too, even better.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 04, 2019 at 07:18 PM
Oh, for Christ's sake, does this is what it takes to be a Ph.D.? Boy, Frederick has written more historically competent essays than this guy. We have a problem in higher education and it is that we are handing out Doctorates to people with these kinds of theories and considerations. What an asshole.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49177/hammer-salon-attacks-declaration-independence-josh-hammer
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:19 PM
Jane,
Heft? I am in Florida on the First Coast in The Hammock.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:21 PM
I men the “left”
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:21 PM
Has Trump referred to himself yet? We'd have heard 50 "I's" by now from Obama.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 04, 2019 at 07:23 PM
‘Mean”. Obviously i’m Losing my mind, but the real problem is that my nails are long and they are screwing up my typing.
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:23 PM
Well hes mostly an idiot, why else would he be at the Huff po:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_9650168
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:25 PM
Jane,
Pick any website. CNN/MSNC, the alphabets, NYTimes, WaPo, HuffPost, Salon, etc. It's really predictable. I would love to give the Media the benefit of the doubt but because of our friends sbw and Don Surber, I have to be more considerate.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:26 PM
What aGREAT speech!
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:27 PM
Real granite columns, and a wife with toned arms.
Did Reggie Love have toned arms.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:29 PM
Finding interesting reading material is a challenge the local paper is mercifully short, but still encrusted with mind Arson barnacles.
That sbw scrapes off with a cutlass
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:29 PM
CH,
Remember Dingell was a blue dog NRA supporting Dem. Hard to do with a majority Dem congress. And he headed Energy committee and supported every damn coal, gas and nuclear developments.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:31 PM
CNN has a "panel" discussing the things.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:33 PM
Gus, if you are forced to watch CNN find a different hospital!
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 07:34 PM
Baghdad John Kirby is speaking. Fucking clown.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:34 PM
Just came to me:
Who on the left has made as much money on their anti-American song as Lee Greenwood has made on his? Another metric no one has measured because of the results.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:34 PM
Trump tearing up at the end there?
Posted by: Another Bob | July 04, 2019 at 07:35 PM
I was, AB.
Posted by: lyle | July 04, 2019 at 07:37 PM
CNN Is what I catch on Pluto TV, which makes the doctor who reruns seem normal, they're all skrulls change my mind.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:38 PM
No Jane, I watched it on FOX.
I went to CNN to see the FULL COMMIES piss all over themselves. It's sad.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:38 PM
Another Bob, I don't know about Trump tearing up, but I sure was.
I know every one of those service songs plus all 3 words of the Battle Hymn of the Republic. I learned them in grade school, thanks to Jean Ann Carson, my wonderful music teacher. I can sing along with them today.
How wonderful to see that music, hear our history, and see those flyovers! What a wonderful President!!! I am so proud of him, and so proud we elected him!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 07:39 PM
Yeah, but in reports from the infallible press, we are only an ordinary, maybe kind of country. Mollie Hemingway is my new heroine, BTW.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:40 PM
Funny huh? The New York Slimes isn't even average.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:43 PM
Hugo Gordon should take his yellow blazer back to England where it belongs since he doesn't understand us or our convictions. No wonder we won back in 1783.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:43 PM
I have just been told that the children in the camps are being abused, that I am following an evil man, that I am brainwashed, and my daughter is ashamed of me.
I am going to start looking for senior housing where I can live by myself. I cannot take it anymore.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 07:46 PM
Heck even cornwallis would be embarrassed by his countrymen today to say nothing of kitchener or napier.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:47 PM
Remember Dingell was a blue dog NRA supporting Dem.
Eh, the WSJ, back when it was a decent newspaper, fairly well skewered his role in an academic fraud case that I can't remember the particulars now but he came off pretty bad.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 07:48 PM
Was that the David baltimore case at John Hopkins
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 07:49 PM
And Tulsi just lost a lot of her independent support.
https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1146826917968044033?s=21
Posted by: Another Bob | July 04, 2019 at 07:50 PM
CH,
Whatever. My point was that John III may not have fallen that far from the tree..
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 07:52 PM
Ari Fleischer
Verified account @AriFleischer
That was the best speech Donald Trump has ever given. Wonderful tribute to the USA.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 07:52 PM
Sounds like your daughter eats the shit that FULL COMMIES feed her. So sorry Miss M.
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 07:53 PM
that I am brainwashed, and my daughter is ashamed of me.
Whoa. If I even thought my daughters were thinking that about me, there'd be hell to pay. I'm sorry you have to endure that disrespectful nonsense.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 07:55 PM
GUS,
Indeed she does. Started when she was living in Milwaukee and getting her Masters.
She hates Trump because he resembles her dad, whom she despises for reasons I need not explain. You cannot reason with her.
Mostly I don't talk politics with her, but it has become apparent to me that I need to find a place by myself and quit being the housemaid and utility payer.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 07:56 PM
Bingo, narc; do you know the details of that?
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 07:56 PM
MM,
Find a way to get out now!
Assisted living will take your SS and Medicare. Then they subsidize you. Food, Board and their schedule.
Think it all through.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 08:01 PM
Jack,
That is what I am going to do. My one problem is my dog, because most places won't take pets.
I am done with this. I have to figure out a way to get internet where I move to, though.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 08:05 PM
Miss M, what is her MASTERS in, and where did she receive it?
Posted by: GUS | July 04, 2019 at 08:05 PM
I initially bought the story:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-scientist.com/commentary/dingell-hearings-on-science-fraud-more-overkill-than-oversight-61966/amp
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:06 PM
Brit Hume
Verified account @brithume
One thing the Trump speech was not about: it was not about him.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 08:06 PM
GUS,
Masters in Library Science at University of Wisconsin. She had an undergrad in Fine Arts from Herron School of Art at IU. When she got married and moved to Milwaukee, her husband was a painter andwasn't earning very much money.
His sister talked her into the Library Science thing and got her to borrow money not only for the schooling but for their living expenses. So she has a huge amount of student loans she is carrying. (Needlss to say, no one asked me for my advice. I had gotten her through undergrad with NO DEBT.)
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 08:09 PM
Jesus, Narc, were you even born in 1989? Why do you keep commenting on things that never happened in your adult lifetime as if you are some kind of expert pundit. It is getting tiring, guy.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 08:12 PM
Tucker is on a roll tonight.
Posted by: Buckeye | July 04, 2019 at 08:13 PM
Thanks, narc; that's pretty much how I remembered it. There's even been a book written about it and it's a major component of at least two other books.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 08:14 PM
Congressional oversight does seem to be a much a scam as blue ribbon committees,
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:15 PM
Its like the story behind the Warren hastings impeachment, a hack who had been passed over for the top Indian civil service post conjured it out of this air,
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:18 PM
Happy Fourth of July to all. It’s my in/laws 60th anniversary, and they rented a house in East Quogue, MY with (nearly) all their children and grandchildren. Went to Tiana Beach where they charged $25 to park. The parking attendants were these very cute high school kids from the Town of Southampton and I would bet they know Frederic.
I wish everyone s happy Fourth of July.
Feel better Gus
Posted by: peter | July 04, 2019 at 08:20 PM
Where did that come from, Jack? July 4 seems as good a day as any to talk about past things.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 04, 2019 at 08:20 PM
Its like the BBC with that agitprop starring Emma Thompson as their trump/le pen composite, of course HBO snapped it up.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:21 PM
Catching up.
GUS. Quick recovery please. After being on the market for a couple three years, Steve Miller’s place finally sold for half the $17M he was asking. Went to some Microsquish dude.
JMH. Your post caused me to go look at my archive drive and found about 350 shots from 9/12. Almost like you, I only had a few of the gang. I think I was already honoring the low profile we generally honor. No shots of the luncheon and no shots of the Union Station repair after everything was over. Definitely some of Jane and Caro and Caro’s signs. Mostly shots of the amazing variety of brilliant signs that still ring true today.
My B-2 story. Driving down Case Rd going to KOSU one Saturday morning with about a 1000 overcast. Quiet. Nothing going on. As I glance across the field, what looks like a UFO slips out of the cloud layer aimed right at me. I damned near drove into the ditch. It slowly rolled away from me revealing its bottom profile. No sound. Holy crap!
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | July 04, 2019 at 08:21 PM
“Where did that come from”
I’ve also assumed narc is over 30.
Posted by: Another Bob | July 04, 2019 at 08:24 PM
Great photo at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 04, 2019 at 08:29 PM
peter,
not many friends over the canal but they could be. $40 at Cooper's Beach in Southampton.
CH,
Just tired of his google pasting of shit he has no first-hand knowledge of. It seems to be his MO. there is no post he won't comment on. No one has the knowledge to do that. It is just disconcerting for me, and I know him. I have paid for his lunch. He thinks he knows about the Sand Box and he knows nothing only shit he knows to be true. But I lived all over it for 2 years and his version is like nothing I can even imagine as reality. I think he is a fantasist but everyone adores him.,
Good. I think he is a googler full of shit.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 08:31 PM
Yes tulsi ultimately doesn't get the point, theres like a scrambler that prevents them fro. groking the real deal,
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:32 PM
(sigh)
Posted by: Another Bob | July 04, 2019 at 08:33 PM
I filled in the link, because contrary to opinion, I don't remember all the details, Baltimore ultimately was vindicated but just like Sen chief Gallagher or Lewis libby at great cost,
That is why Tom r's facile notions that everyone will turn out fine, sometimes that's true but more often than not charlatans and demagogues prevail.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:39 PM
MM’
You kids sound like my mother. Get out and have your own life. It’s scary but you will make it work.
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 08:42 PM
Hang in there narc, you're one of my favorites out here!
Honestly JiB...scroll the fuck on by. That was uncalled for!
Posted by: Rocco | July 04, 2019 at 08:47 PM
Fireworks all over the beach. Beagles not impressed.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 08:47 PM
What struck me about that piece is posse comitatus is always presented as an unalloyed good. Which is understandable one doesn't want an warranted long term domestic military intervention but as with the military authorities in post war Europe, itd occasionally necessary
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:49 PM
This is a very important Italian-American holiday, The Feast Of the Strong Ice Cream. Happy Il Forte Gelato everyone!
Posted by: cathyf | July 04, 2019 at 08:50 PM
Nice to read on the 4th of July:
"I came to America because it was the land of the free, not the land of free stuff, the land of the brave, not of snowflakes, where freedom of speech was always more important than the percieved violence inflicted by a telling of the truth.
I came because it let me be me."
Posted by: joan | July 04, 2019 at 08:53 PM
Thanks rocco.
There are supposed to be legal ethical standards that prevent inappropriate inquiries or ensure accountability, but that's only as good as those willing to abide by them
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 08:53 PM
Rocco,
I know him you don’t. Not uncalled for. He comments on stuff he has no knowledge of only through google. Do you really want to rely on that?
I think if narciso is the basin of truth here then this is thetime to leave for good.
My God it’s as if Goebbles was resurrected..
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 08:54 PM
That post was from a thread from rising serpent, but typepad wouldn't let me post the link along with the quote.
I tried again, and still can't get the link to come up.
Posted by: joan | July 04, 2019 at 08:55 PM
Last timeI'm biting the hook, MM. Tomorrow morning start by calling here:http://indianapolisseniorapartments.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwx_boBRA9EiwA4kIELritCMjNS9bfOhuoque82GrF4GutvLfFjBDAe4sehH_oLBQMjdJIPxoCnx4QAvD_BwE
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 08:57 PM
I'll toast to forte gelato any day, cathy f.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 08:58 PM
JiB!! Stop it.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 08:59 PM
Sorry, Clarice and all, I know he is a favorite but his commentary on shit he knows nothing about except through Google, which can be dismissed or accepted but mostly in my experience is wrong. Sure, he is a great guy to talk to but I am just tired of him commenting on everything posted here as if he has first-hand knowledge which he doesn't.
You want to accept him as your pet project, go for it. Me, I am past all that. No one without a job knows that much.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 09:06 PM
The fireworks display is fantastic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03K5VZj0NNk
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 09:09 PM
I’m at son’s family and grandkids house playing outside among mosquitoes, then off to watch fireworks I just want to go home and watch Trump’s speech
Posted by: Texas Liberty Gal | July 04, 2019 at 09:10 PM
Wow, I would have loved to be there for that fly-over! It must have been pretty thrilling. Gives new meaning to "wing man."
MT:
I'd have loved your B-2 flyover too!
Back in the day, I used to spend time at a place up on the eastern edge of the Appalachians here in NC. I don't know which type of planes they were because I rarely ever saw them, but they used to practice low level reconnaissance out of Goldsboro flying west, and we were the first really sharp shift in elevation they came up on. Contra your experience, it was really, really loud, and sounded scary powerful -- except that it always gave me the warm fuzzies, thinking these guys were out there looking after us.
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 04, 2019 at 09:11 PM
You hear a smattering of fireworks here, they were much more ever present in south Florida imho.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:13 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-put-citizenship-back-in-the-census-11562264430?mod=rsswn&fbclid=IwAR2n-1Hif1ipRjpRxRbpcsoAP4q8VPwMLkmn_jdlAh4bawUlgfTJRRX3-I8
14th Amendment argument:
Congress has dealt with suffrage-abridgement problems through other constitutional and statutory means, especially the Voting Rights Act. But that doesn’t change the constitutional obligation to obtain citizenship data. A future Congress could decide to rely on Section 2 to enforce voting rights, particularly as the VRA’s core provision, requiring Justice Department approval when certain states change voting procedures, becomes irrelevant because of changing attitudes and Supreme Court precedent.
Significantly, the last time the Supreme Court addressed Section 2, it emphasized the need to give effect to both Section 1, which includes the Equal Protection Clause, and 2 of the 14th Amendment. That case, Richardson v. Ramirez (1974), involved an equal protection challenge to California’s policy of disfranchising felons.
The president should issue an executive order stating that, to comply with the requirements of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, the citizenship question will be added to the 2020 census. In addition, he can order the Commerce Department to undertake, on an emergency basis, a new Census Act rulemaking.
That would trigger another round of litigation. Opponents would choose a federal district court likely to block it again, and the Justice Department would have to seek the Supreme Court’s intervention during its summer recess. While rare, such an emergency review has happened before. With the justification for the citizenship question being clear and compelling, the administration should prevail.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 09:18 PM
JMH,
Probably Seymour Johnson before they shut it down in the late 70's. F-16's most likely. Enjoy the thunder.
My last post. Enjoy.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | July 04, 2019 at 09:21 PM
The fireworks are wonderful. It's like peering into the deep space Trump Nebula!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 04, 2019 at 09:22 PM
Yes its tempting, maybe next time:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RonColeman/status/1146935677239607298
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:25 PM
Sleep tight, Jack!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 04, 2019 at 09:26 PM
IMO Narc is one of the smartest people here, and he’s not a bragger. I appreciate him a lot.
Posted by: Jane | July 04, 2019 at 09:27 PM
Rest up, JiB.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 09:29 PM
Dread pirate robert@ht mark o, didnt concern himself with any of this, she just threw out a grenade back to the same Obama judge and ducked
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:32 PM
Clarice:
I haven't read the SCOTUS ruling because
I'm just too damn lazyI've been so busy. Does you know upon what reasoning the other 4 justices based their opinions?Posted by: JM Hanes | July 04, 2019 at 09:33 PM
It looks very convoluted:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotusblog.com/2019/06/opinion-analysis-court-orders-do-over-on-citizenship-question-in-census-case/amp/
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:41 PM
They should make it that can be simply understood and serve as a basis for further decisions.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:44 PM
jmh, it's one of those cases where there were multiple opinions. This is the best analysis I've found:https://www.scotusblog.com/2019/06/opinion-analysis-court-orders-do-over-on-citizenship-question-in-census-case/
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 09:45 PM
When the redistricting isnt done up to date that means scores of voters may not be on the right voter rolls, but one cant deny them so one ends up filling out those pesky provisional ballots and we saw how that played in last fall didnt we.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:49 PM
We were on pin and needles to see if Abrams or gillum would win, but hes under criminal investigation right, which runs as fast as a Galapagos turtle.
Posted by: Narciso79 | July 04, 2019 at 09:52 PM
Thanks Narciso & Clarice. I'll check out the SCOTUSblog column.
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 04, 2019 at 09:57 PM
--Like Rick Wilson says, “Everything Trump touches Dies”. --
If only that were true there are a whole lotta people I'd love to see him reach out and touch, starting with the bulbous Bette.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 04, 2019 at 10:01 PM
jmh, there were several blogs there dealing wih various of the opinions as well, but on a quick search now I couldn't find them easily.
Posted by: clarice | July 04, 2019 at 10:03 PM