Trump loves a brawl featuring extremist Democrats and The Squad loves attention so this scuffle works for both sides.
David Brooks is interesting on the theory of classic liberalism, ie, the non-revolutionary type which has fallen out of favor among the young and young of heart (We see you ranting over there Bernie!).
The Times notes in passing that with his "go back" comment Trump may have been aiming for a more race-neutral, politically themed "Love it or leave it". And going WAAY back, "go back" was more about politics than race:
Those who study language and rhetoric say the president’s “go back” comments — or, at least, the sentiment behind them — have roots beginning as far back as the 1600s, when dissidents were banished from American colonies for advocating total religious freedom. Later, a set of laws passed in 1798 allowed the deportation of noncitizens who were considered dangerous, were from hostile nations or had criticized the federal government.
Obviously, since everything is about race today, "go back" is as well.
And where does this leave us? Aghast and confused, which is to say, the same place I've been for a few years now. Keeping The Squad on center stage may help Trump in 2020. Having people scream Trump's a racist may have been tuned out by now. I endorse the view of Jeff Dobbs on Twitter:
I am calling for the total and complete sending of every elected official back to their countries of origin until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
That ought to buy us some time. Like, a decade or two...
From one of Trump's tweets:
Get a list of the HORRIBLE things they have said. Omar is polling at 8%, Cortez at 21%.
Ahahaha, it's actually 9% and 22% per Axios. Classic example of Trump getting the morons to correct his errors and thus spread the message even further.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 11:16 AM
Having people scream Trump's a racist may have been tuned out by now.
No "may" about it, TM.
Here's some good analysis from AmSpec, echoing what we've been talking about here on JOM:
https://spectator.org/trump-troll-level-grand-master/
There is no downside to tying the Squad millstone around the collective Dems' neck.
I wonder what those dozens of Dem House freshmen who had to run as fake Republicans to pick off R seats are thinking right now.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 11:18 AM
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump · 7m7 minutes ago
Kevin McCarthy @GOPLeader, “The President’s Tweets were not Racist. The controversy over the tweets is ALL POLITICS. I will vote against this resolution.” Thank you Kevin!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 11:19 AM
My new hero.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 11:22 AM
Porchlight,
I am listening to Tony Katz on local radio who absolutely does NOT understand that Trump knows what he is doing. He persists in thinking Trump is getting in the way of the story.
I am tempted to tweet him but I am super exasperated at his wasting my time.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 11:23 AM
What strain of weed do “Justice Democrats” smoke?
Pol Pot.
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 11:25 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-gop-representative-announces-hes-mulling-a-2020-run-against-trump
Mark Sanford! Good grief!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 11:32 AM
And where does this leave us?
It leaves us with a President who actually fights for his voters and his country and his culture, which we haven’t had since Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: James D. | July 16, 2019 at 11:33 AM
Dave
When you figure out who makes those drones, please post the info.
I am ready to place my order:)
Posted by: Buckeye | July 16, 2019 at 11:36 AM
Good Morning! I wasn't surprised that all four of Maine's delegation rebuked Trump's statements. Jared Golden (D) is the ME-2 congressman who won the seat despite Trump winning the 2nd district. ME-2 includes Lewiston,so I read Golden's statement and he agrees that Trump is divisive,blah,blah. He is walking a fine line,considering some of the constituents he represents. There is never any reporting of the Somali community in Maine,unless there are youths involved in brawls.
Posted by: Marlene | July 16, 2019 at 11:39 AM
I'm amused by the never-Trump people who saw the light and came over to grudgingly support him. This series of tweets has them wetting their pants again. They will eventually figure out that this was a good political move.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | July 16, 2019 at 11:39 AM
From Monty James (a commenter at Ace of Spades):
It's not 11d chess. It's just been so long since we've seen a Republican get in and mix it up with Democrats that we confuse it for some master plan; most of them don't like to get their bow ties mussed.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | July 16, 2019 at 11:40 AM
On the matter of the marvelous Trump tweets: wasn't it Cortez who said it's more important to be morally right than factually correct?
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 11:41 AM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1151117140965171201.html
Excellent thread by John Hayward of Breitbart, explaining how Trump has changed the method of dealing with the democrats attacks.
First line:
"The "understanding" until now has been that Democrats get to be as vicious, racist, and divisive as they want to be, freely challenging the patriotism of anyone who disagrees with their policy agenda, and the only acceptable GOP response was a meek call for unity."
Original thread if you want to see how many people are in agreement:
https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1151117140965171201
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 11:46 AM
But what if Pelosi had successfully marginalized the Squad? That was her plan. She very deliberately goaded them into a public fight. Trump barged in and made sure they are going to stay front and center in the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Neo | July 16, 2019 at 11:57 AM
Helpful hint of the day for all the toxic males on JOM:
Order a bra! One damn Amazon order and I have boobs all over my FB feed!
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 12:02 PM
Stephanie, I already have a slingshot.
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 12:04 PM
Boulder sized?
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 12:07 PM
neo,
Pelosi successfully marginalizing them as far as policy and such hurts them, but helps the democrats, as they don't look so crazy.
Trump now has the crazies front and center, and while Omar may be backed by her Somali Minnesotans, New Yorkers are going to not only boot out AOC but some may be taking a second look at Trump. As will a lot of other Americans, who are sick of being lectured to by people on the left.
That's what I think, anyway.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 12:09 PM
“Order a bra! One damn Amazon order and I have boobs all over my FB feed!”
Do I actually have to order one or can I just Google them? :)
Posted by: jimmyk | July 16, 2019 at 12:10 PM
Donald Trump’s plan must have been to see who amongst the Dems, GOPe, and the media has the attention span of a gnat.
All of them, apparently.
Nothing about "Then come back and show us how.... ....it is done." — and that is in the same series of tweets — says that Trump is racist or xenophobic.
Posted by: sbwaters | July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
I miss Hit!
Posted by: Jane | July 16, 2019 at 12:14 PM
It's just been so long since we've seen a Republican get in and mix it up with Democrats that we confuse it for some master plan
I don't think this works, because no Republican has ever done what Trump does.
If people can't figure out what you are doing (over and over again) and you keep doing it and keep succeeding (over and over again) then yes, you are a master, by definition.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Do any of the Squad currently have Dem challengers?
I don't see it. Who is brave enough to take them on? Your house will be firebombed.
Personally, since they're so toxic to Dems' chances elsewhere, I don't mind if they don't get beaten. As Nancy says, they're only four votes.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 12:16 PM
G (*)(*) G L E away Jimmy! See what happens.
Every time I hide a bra ad on FB, I swear three more start appearing.
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 12:17 PM
Ig, if you (by chance) are on this thread, now or later, I just read your comment about the woman you've been interested in for some time -- plus you remarking (paraphrase here) 'you might try it with her again in six months or so.'
Ig, people don't change, especially twisted, mental cases. There is something wrong with her that you can't fix, not with your compassion or love. You will be oh, so sorry if you become involved with her. Again, people with devious intent, and she certainly used it in this instance, enjoy their little games. She's sick.
I'm blunt, but would hate to see you hurt by a cancerous mind, and she seems to have one.
I'm so sorry
Posted by: joan | July 16, 2019 at 12:20 PM
I do, too, Jane.
Posted by: clarice | July 16, 2019 at 12:20 PM
https://twitter.com/BryanLlenas/status/1151152200510574593
Bombshell in the Epstein courtroom. Thread from a Fox reporter. First line:
"Wow. Epstein accuser lawyer Brad Edwards drops bombshell saying Epstein, during his 13 month jail sentence in which he was allowed to spend 12 hours a day in his private office adjacent to his attorney, had office visitors and engaged in sexual abuse while in custody."
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 12:22 PM
This ties Epstein to Khashoggi. fwiw
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/investigative-journalist-explains-why-jeffrey-epstein-might-have-needed-a-fake-passport/
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 12:25 PM
Mark MeadowsVerified account @RepMarkMeadows · 16h16 hours ago
Think about where we are: we’ve got an overwhelmed southern border and humanitarian crisis, and this is the left’s response:
- Decriminalize border crossings
- Free healthcare for illegal immigrants
- Abolish ICE
- Refuse increased border security
- Oppose citizenship question
Posted by: MissMarple2 | July 16, 2019 at 12:27 PM
Trump focuses attention on the 4 young color-coordinated morons, and leaves the 25 candidates in a media vacuum. Polls indicate that the majority of Americans agree with Trump that the 4 color-coordinated morons are in fact morons, and that we are fed up with their nonsense. Trump had a clear strategic reason for the tweet.
Posted by: Neo | July 16, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Seems relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_OMrvt-r7Q
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 12:49 PM
Precisely, Neo.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 12:49 PM
If I "went back to wherever I came from" I'd be about 200 feet away from being a constituent of Ayanna Pressley's and probably at risk of getting gerrymandered in at some point.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 12:52 PM
Meet "Charlene": https://youtu.be/7sVElxRKQ0E
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 01:03 PM
Another nail in the coffin of Europe:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-judge-rules-jewish-womans-killer-not-responsible-because-he-smoked-weed/
Somehow he was still able to shout "Allahu akhbar!" in his stoned state.
Posted by: jimmyk | July 16, 2019 at 01:06 PM
Oh, great— let’s legalize pot!
Posted by: cathyf | July 16, 2019 at 01:07 PM
Shirley they cant be serious?
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:12 PM
They never move on:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-islam-muslim-comments-democracy-tory-leadership-contest-a9006211.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR2R0OnZV8320FacCedT0NchsZ_wARPzLTsw-HyQYH_zW-LkFYdljFiWn4I#Echobox=1563263058
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:25 PM
Safety Tip: Don't piss off the judge.
Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman
30m
BREAKING: Roger Stone has been ordered to stop posting on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter — on any subject — after a judge found he violated her previous order limiting what he could say publicly about his criminal case
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1151173965488021505
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 01:29 PM
Now you see why CNN went out on a limb with that el Pais story picked up in various places
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:32 PM
Oh the ice bomber identifies as Emma (as in Goldman) and durruti (Spanish anarchist)
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:38 PM
He was radicalized by hearing about the electiroal college growing up in Holland at age 13, and he was a folksinger
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:42 PM
Do they have a link to what Stone tweeted?
His name came up recently when prosecutors, at his trial, admitted that the Russiansocial media trolls had no connection to the Kremlin.
Does Stone need to shut up because of this?
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 16, 2019 at 01:46 PM
jimmyk @ 1:06
Maybe one of the victim's neighbors should go smoke some pot and then head over to the judge's house and kill his family.
They wouldn't be responsible for their actions, after all.
Posted by: James D. | July 16, 2019 at 01:49 PM
after a judge found he violated her previous order limiting what he could say publicly about his criminal case
How is that constitutional in the first place?
Posted by: James D. | July 16, 2019 at 01:51 PM
He was on infowars (before they banned it from twitter, and Joe piscopos show? Four days ago.
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 01:58 PM
TK, there is a twitter thread at the link. The judge talked about it.
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 01:59 PM
After yesterday's jihad squad fiasco, we ought to scrap the chess analogy and move on to pinball , I think.
Posted by: clarice | July 16, 2019 at 02:00 PM
But the ice bomber had accounts on Facebook so did his black bloc affiliate,
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 02:03 PM
So you think a boycott really matters, it means only these jackalope will be presemt.
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 02:06 PM
Remember who that (redacted) amy Jackson is, she represent William (cold cash) Jefferson, she bought the lies about klimnik.
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 02:08 PM
The Jihad Squad is just another formulary name for Trump Red Pills.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | July 16, 2019 at 02:15 PM
What is the advantage of an instapot over a regular old crock pot? They have a fantastic deal on Prime Day, but do I really need one more appliance in my kitchen when we eat out 4-5 nights a week?
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 02:16 PM
Instapot is awesome for taking what's in the CrockPot overnight, to done and on a plate in 25 minutes.
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 02:18 PM
instapot is a pressure cooker. it is supposedly faster.
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 02:18 PM
No evaporation, though, that's the downside.
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 02:18 PM
Yet they go to court every time...
MacIver Institute
@MacIverWisc
“Republicans won with court-drawn maps in the 1990’s and 2000’s as well as in the 2010’s. The Democrats’ efforts are based on sour grapes because they haven’t won in 30 years no matter how the maps were drawn.” - @SpeakerVos
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 02:20 PM
Good grief:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=382300
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 02:24 PM
We got an Instant Pot for Christmas.
The other great thing about it is, you can saute onions or brown ground beef etc right in the pot and then add everything else for your slow cooking, instead of having to use 2 (or more) separate pots to do that.
Posted by: James D. | July 16, 2019 at 02:24 PM
Narciso, "French" is the proper name for someone who advises surrender at every turn.
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 02:28 PM
Local Fox anchor caught on video dropping f-bomb as she apparently blasts station execs for asking her to hide her presence on conservative social media site
Posted by: Extraneus | July 16, 2019 at 02:28 PM
Thanks for the input!
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 02:32 PM
This fat twit has been wrong for 15 years of so, going back to the national post,
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/leftist-writer-at-the-nation-calls-for-tucker-carlson-to-be-ostracized/
Posted by: Narciso | July 16, 2019 at 02:37 PM
Snorfle (or how to get banned in TWTR in 3..2..)::
https://twitter.com/ali/status/1151189183970439168?s=21
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 02:38 PM
Seen on Zuckerborg...
STORM THE CLINTONS' ESTATE
THEY CAN'T MAKE ALL OF US COMMIT SUICIDE
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 02:39 PM
Democrats apparently believe voters are too stupid to comprehend who they are voting for or why they are voting for them.
https://thinkprogress.org/democrats-sue-over-florida-law-that-puts-trumps-name-at-the-top-of-the-2020-ballot-db0a3c3886c3/
Democrats argue that people sometimes decide their vote based on where a candidate’s name appears on the ballot, a phenomenon known as “position bias.”
Posted by: Tom R | July 16, 2019 at 02:40 PM
Jeet the Hut
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 02:41 PM
Ana Navarro is the Mollie Hemingway from the Bearded Spock Universe.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 02:43 PM
Transgender Weightlifter Wins Two Gold Medals in Women’s Division
Posted by: Extraneus | July 16, 2019 at 02:44 PM
Get back Loretta
Posted by: boris | July 16, 2019 at 02:45 PM
You acquire crap that then thrives at the expense of competitors... Monopoly much?
CNBC
@CNBC
Facebook tells congress it shouldn't be broken up because Instagram and WhatsApp have thrived
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/facebook-says-instagram-whatsapp-are-better-off-as-part-of-the-firm.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 02:46 PM
LOL Dave @ 2:43
Posted by: Tom R | July 16, 2019 at 02:46 PM
No evaporation, though, that's the downside.
Yeah, everything comes out kinda mushy.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 16, 2019 at 03:04 PM
Stews and soups, however....
Thai style soup in 20 minutes? I'm all in.
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 03:19 PM
Like this one:
https://www.instapottinwithpoonam.com/tom-kha-soup/
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 03:20 PM
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/we-all-wanted-to-love-the-womens-soccer-team/ says it well.
Posted by: rse | July 16, 2019 at 03:22 PM
Did this one too:
https://www.kitchentreaty.com/instant-pot-vegan-golden-lentil-spinach-soup/comment-page-2/
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 03:25 PM
Note: I am an omnivore with strong Keto tendencies, spouse refuses to give up the pyramid and is easily swayed by Today Show propaganda. Today's theme? "Plant-based"....don't get me started.
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 03:26 PM
CNBC @CNBC
2m
R. Kelly denied bail in sex crimes case cnb.cx/2jPbA56
Posted by: henry | July 16, 2019 at 03:36 PM
Newly back from a couple weeks in China and lots of catch-up to do.
In my emails I see this, I wonder if this has been discussed or if anyone knows more. Did PDJT nominate this guy? The email does NOT mention President Trump, but does make a reference to "business as usual".
AFA.org:
Judge (Suleyman) Ozerden is the district judge for the Southern District of Mississippi who refused to protect Christians from being forced to follow the Obamacare contraceptive mandate. Judge Ozerden refused to hear the complaint of the Catholic Diocese of Biloxi, whose leaders said the contraceptive mandate violated their religious liberty and the deeply held religious belief in the sanctity of human life.
It's no longer business as usual with America's activist judges, so it can no longer be business as usual in choosing America's judges. We must choose committed constitutionalists who will fight to set the American judicial ship right, and Judge Ozerden has proven by his record not to be that.
TAKE ACTION: Urge your U.S. senators to vote against the confirmation of Judge Ozerden to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.
At least 79 members of Congress, including Mick Mulvaney (R-SC), who is now acting White House Chief of Staff, and Mike Pompeo (R-KS), who is U.S. Secretary of State, signed on to a letter to the court in defense of religious liberty and the sanctity of human life and on behalf of the Catholic Diocese.
Judge Ozerden refused to hear the arguments of these members of Congress and chose instead to side with the Obama Administration and its contraceptive mandate.
Posted by: JimNorCal | July 16, 2019 at 03:38 PM
Howie Carr's poll question: Who is your least favorite member of The Squad?
Posted by: Marlene | July 16, 2019 at 03:47 PM
On no Trump is in trouble.
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/07/14/poll-megan-rapinoe-beats-trump-hypothetical-presidential-race/
the fact that he polls in the low 40s against any Democrat he gets tested against shows that electability concerns are overrated and Democrats should feel comfortable voting for the candidates they like the best, not just the ones they think have the best chance of beating Trump
Hopefully the Progtards truly believe that.
Posted by: Tom R | July 16, 2019 at 03:51 PM
Someone here asked about Instant Pots on the in-house discussion board, and of course someone had to virtue signal about not electronically crossing the Amazon picket line to get one.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 16, 2019 at 03:54 PM
I needed flea treatment for the dog.
I crossed the picket line.
So sue me:)
Posted by: Buckeye | July 16, 2019 at 03:57 PM
Pfft. I've been clearing out my wish list of stuff that is actually on sale and buying it. Nice to haves, not must have type stuff. And Ariel's new "kitchen" was an additional 20% off today for her birthday present.
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | July 16, 2019 at 04:03 PM
Enjoy it. Detail: hand wash the removable silicone seal after each use.
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 04:04 PM
Not gonna lie. Saved about $600 yesterday on Amazon Prime Day buying my son a notebook computer for college as well as a lot of home supplies stuff for his dorm room.
Posted by: Tom R | July 16, 2019 at 04:04 PM
There's an Amazon picket line? What's the latest grievance?
Posted by: jimmyk | July 16, 2019 at 04:06 PM
We bought one of these a few years ago for my granddaughter. I must say, it went together nicely and it's solid.
https://www.kidkraft.com/us_en/pink-vintage-kitchen-53179.html
Posted by: Rocco | July 16, 2019 at 04:07 PM
Howie Carr's poll question: Who is your least favorite member of The Squad?
Tlaib. In addition to being as dumb as a plank, shared by them all, she's the most physically repellent.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 16, 2019 at 04:11 PM
President of Planned Parenthood removed during secret board meeting:
https://twitter.com/GentlemanRascal/status/1151224169683652608
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 04:18 PM
Congrats on all your good news!
Whenisthe baby due?
I agree wrt Tlaib.
Physically repellent with a potty mouth.
Probably former president of the man haters club .
Posted by: D | July 16, 2019 at 04:18 PM
TomR, while my youngest was at wrestling practice, (Mercyhurst Junior College) his roommate was in their room sleeping with the door opened. He woke up to find a black student in the process of stealing my son's play station or whatever the hell it was. It turned into a big deal with my son on the wrestling team and the thief on the hoop team. I knew of the problem at the time but didn't know until recently just how serious it was. Many fights ensued.
Posted by: Rocco | July 16, 2019 at 04:19 PM
PP:
Gee they even treat their own people like dirt,
Posted by: D | July 16, 2019 at 04:20 PM
iBama appointee tries for permanent ban on citizenship question:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/judge-permanently-blocks-citizenship-question-2020-census/index.html
Posted by: Melinda | July 16, 2019 at 04:21 PM
My least favorite member of the Jihad Squad:
Posted by: fdcol63 🇺🇸 | July 16, 2019 at 04:21 PM
[U.K.] Library cancels long-running Christian playgroup after people complain that the children are singing songs about God
Posted by: Extraneus | July 16, 2019 at 04:22 PM
Don't know all the details but apparently Pelosi said something inflammatory against Trump on the House floor so Collins raised a point of order that she violated parliamentary rules, requested her comments be removed from the record, and called for a vote to temporarily suspend Pelosi as Speaker for the rest of the day.
Posted by: Tom R | July 16, 2019 at 04:25 PM
Ext, had to make room for this, you know:
Posted by: fdcol63 🇺🇸 | July 16, 2019 at 04:27 PM