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August 20, 2019

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Narciso

Well not evem close:


https://reason.com/2018/07/19/slavery-did-not-make-america-r/?amp&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR0BSAp_6fc_1zIM_gD12cO2B4eneTIduEFfXkK7d-ozPZXA7EJViMvpBWo

henry

My ancestors suggest the NYT can kiss our lily white behinds.

Quakers were pleased that, during the Revolutionary War, there was a near cessation of the importation of slaves. Under the Articles of Association, the American colonies agreed to stop the practice largely as a punitive measure protesting British trade policies. Throughout the 1770s and 80s, Quakers’ efforts to end the slave trade and slavery consisted mainly of moral suasion and petitioning. Their work met with some modest success as several states banned the importation of slaves and several abolished the practice altogether. But the rhetoric and logic of liberty was not fully extended to slaves. The importation of slaves resumed after the war, and ultimately the Constitutional Convention reached several compromises regarding slavery. Quakers were generally supportive of the Constitution but actively sought to correct deficiencies in the new plan of government in regards to slavery.

https://csac.history.wisc.edu/document-collections/religion-and-the-ratification/quaker-opposition/

henry

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Narciso

Where was the cotton going until 1865, when the uk sought replacement from wgypt which would eventually lead to the intervention in 1882.

Porchlight

They don't deserve this country.

Narciso

Tell me more about your newsletter yikes
https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/1163762115246776322

MissMarple3

Daughter told me this morning she dislikes so many churches which tell her she is a bad person.

Gobsmacked, I was surprised since her political beliefs seem to do that. I told her I was tired of the left telling me I was racist, homophobic, anti-woman, greedy, etc. and I am tired of hearing how bad our country is.

Of course she got mad but, really, talk about separate planes of thinking!

clarice

'm making mushroom curry for dinner tonight and think I'll try this keto Indian flatbread with it:https://theketoqueens.com/crispy-low-carb-indian-flatbread-recipe/?cn-reloaded=1
(only 3 net carbs each)

MissMarple3

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 16m16 minutes ago

Sorry, I don’t buy Rep. Tlaib’s tears. I have watched her violence, craziness and, most importantly, WORDS, for far too long. Now tears? She hates Israel and all Jewish people. She is an anti-Semite. She and her 3 friends are the new face of the Democrat Party. Live with it!

Narciso

Well in point of fact:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3:9-26&version=NLT&interface=amp

The Infamous Ignatz

--Narc will remind us of the correct term, but lying in pursuit of the advancement of jihad is a good thing for a Muslim.--

I believe the term is taquitos.

henry

I believe the term is taquitos.

not "intersectionality"?

Narciso

Close eniugh its a transliteration with cheese.

Narciso

Surber does have a way with words:

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/08/no-one-is-4th-in-democrat-poll.html?spref=fb&fbclid=IwAR0rAcixiIIjDfPBzZSQH2nxiqQqxKa9Q_L1kATWV5t_9f_XySE2Bq4cEfk&m=1

MissMarple3

Narciso,

Of course that is correct. She doesn't like to hear it, of course.

I just found it odd that she doesn't see how the "Everything in the US is racist and wrong and evil" line doesn't alienate people.

MissMarple3

Dr. Robert Epstein‏ @DrREpstein · 10h10 hours ago

.@HillaryClinton, whom I have strongly supported for many years, told blatant lies about me today. As a result, I have been subjected to widespread condemnation by mainstream media. I'm going to fight this. Stay tuned tomorrow for my first-ever twitter storm.
==============================
Does anyone know what this is about?

The Infamous Ignatz

--not "intersectionality"?--

Only if you're this guy and you've been plumbed with a front hole;

Narciso

Hes the one that google being evil.

Narciso

Called out google biasing results on a whole sale scale

James D.

I just found it odd that she doesn't see how the "Everything in the US is racist and wrong and evil" line doesn't alienate people.

Because the people who would be alienated are racist and wrong and evil, and thus not really people at all, so it doesn't matter how alienated they will be.

James D.

There is absolutely no point trying to engage the people who are producing the NYT "1619 project" with facts, logic or even appeals to common decency.

The only answer to them is "You are wrong on every level about everything you say, you contribute no value to anyone, and I am going to ignore you."

The Infamous Ignatz

Re the discussion of the IRS and the Constitution on the last thread;

The Constitution specifically prohibited an income style direct tax. Most of the revenue was raised through tariffs [external revenue] and eventually excise taxes [internal revenue].
So the Constitution may have anticipated a mechanism by which those other taxes would be regulated and collected but I don't think it's fair to say they anticipated an amendment making direct taxes legal.
The amendment process of course makes the complete repeal of the entire constitution's intent theoretically possible but I don't think they anticipated our collective IQ would decline quite as precipitously as it has.

Narciso

Ah the billy madison tack, now eduardo galeano did sheepishly admit he gor something fundamentally wromg 35 years later.

The Infamous Ignatz

More info on that WeWork scam IPO from yesterday;
Famed IPO Analyst Call WeWork Prospectus "Masterpiece Of Obfuscation"

Porchlight

Of course that is correct. She doesn't like to hear it, of course.

I don't understand how someone can be Christian if they can't accept the concept of original sin. It's, like, fundamental.

Narciso

Triple yikes. Its like when venkman says we dont make them likr that anymore.

Rocco

Here's a passage that was struck from Jefferson's original draft of the declaration. Jefferson would later blame a couple of southern states and the northern ones who transported the slaves here for striking the passage. But the seeds of abolition were planted by him at our founding.

He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian King of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where Men should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he has obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed again the Liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/03/how-slaveholder-thomas-jefferson-planted-the-seed-of-abolition/

Old Lurker

Iggy, other than finding some way for you to again disagree with some conclusion of mine, your 12:22 contains enough for me to agree with to make disagreeing with you difficult.

This started with my offering an observation in support of James' and MM's comments about the role of government employees' bad faith and/or competence in the decline of our governance, which Cap'n took off point by informing me that neither the IRS nor the DoJ et al were in the Constitution, and which you now pile on with imagining what the Founders might have been thinking in order to dispute what I said they wrote. But which you then agreed they wrote. The fact is they gave us the tools to unwind the entire system they designed, and two centuries later perhaps half of the country would do that if they could. And no, I don't want to quibble about the size of "half", nor do I want to make the mistake I made last week by calling them "neighbors" since that drew lightning too.

I stand by my point. If I could recall what my point was.

:-)

Old Lurker

Iggy, WeWork has been mesmerizing the youngsters in my commercial real estate circles. We old guys just roll our eyes.

Porchlight

A couple of friends of mine work for WeWork. I don't understand what there is to do. Be an "account manager," I guess.

MissMarple3

Porchlight,

Your point is completely correct. I do not dispute it and am stunned that she doesn't understand that a church is about saving souls and improving our walk with Christ, not a happy place for telling us how wonderful we are.

AND the very thing that she dislikes about so many churches is part and parcel of what the democrats are currently up to.

I am going to have to have a serious talk with her or get her to read a book on basic theology.

Porchlight

Rocco, the scene where Edward Rutledge of South Carolina objects to that wording of Jefferson's is a very powerful one in the 1776 musical. Rutledge calls out the northern colonies (and the Massachusetts delegation in particular) for their hypocrisy in profiting from "molasses to rum to slaves" while simultaneously castigating the Southern states for allowing the practice.

Narciso

So they maintain offices, but why is their loss ratio so crazy, its something douglas adams would conjure up.

Old Lurker

THIS "Nevertheless, on Monday FNC chief political anchor Bret Baier tried to provide one by arguing that, no, the 22-year-old network hasn’t changed and is the same now as it’s always been."

Is what happens when you spend too much time admiring your image in a mirror under klieg lights.

Fem.

sbwaters

From Narciso’s "Slavery did not America rich" article in Reason:

Taxation is a slavery admired by most of the left and much of the right.

Remember this line.

It is the needle that punctures all Leftist trial balloons. Leftists are —- and always have been -- wannabe slave owners who would misuse schooling, democracy, the press, and good people to achieve their unpromising ends.

Porchlight

MM, maybe you can find a book that speaks in her language (for lack of a better term) and talks about how liberating it is to realize that one is a sinner and so is everyone else. There is only One who isn't. :)

sbwaters

Slavery did not make America rich

MissMarple3

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-skimpy-electoral-base-of-the-celebrity-political-left

Michael Barone has lots of facts and figures about AOC and other leftist "stars", but in my opinion he leaves out a very important component: vote fraud.

Narciso

I think we are in dire meed of the Word, not the self imprivement rostrums that osteem a d other prosperity gospel pass off as the word.

clarice

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7372877/Ghislaine-Maxwell-STAGED-photo-N-close-friend-attorney.html?fbclid=IwAR3AFKGi12-P0n3BZXgkYNzROfWcLDvnsbZAQGMk_IgG2Zx48oyMMOoEOQY
staged photo of Maxwell in L.A.

Narciso

And dire need to, of course satan i mean darwin

Old Lurker

WeWork is a product of exploding asset "values" as described forever by Iggy, and also by what Mel meant when he warned against ignoring "pricing" in jumping to conclusions about macro economic metrics.

In many ways it is my industry, tied to land, bricks, mortar, rents and costs trying to mimic ludicrous "valuations" for companies that produce nuthin and earn nuthin for nobody, never.

Old Lurker

MM "Michael Barone...but in my opinion he leaves out a very important component: vote fraud."

Because, just like Andrew McCarthy and so many others, Barone simply cannot imagine the rules being broken beyond what ward bosses and Kennedys managed. It is the audacious magnitude of scale that befuddles him.

henry

OL, welcome to the Silicon Valley Software ponzi machine.

Old Lurker

Yep Henry.

And what mathematicians did you the simple concepts of risk and reward in pools of loans.

henry

OL, the good news? the shares will end up in a government pension plan near you.

Rocco

Porch, I didn't know that, I'll check it out thanks.

MissMarple3

OL,

I think you are right. I also think what has the Left (and their allies the media) befuddled is that so many are getting wise to them.

I STILL say Zuckerberg is a dim bulb figure head, who, by the way, has a Chinese wife, and you cannot convince me that Jack Dorsey is some super genius.

Porchlight

Rocco, the film is available on Amazon and isn't expensive. I watch it every Independence Day with the kids and we all love it.

https://www.amazon.com/1776-Restored-Directors-Howard-DaSilva/dp/B000067D1R

The story is dramatic enough that every time, I get nervous that it isn't going to work out in the end (I have the same experience with Pride and Prejudice). :)

There is a some anti-conservative bias (Dickinson of PA is the main villain here) but it doesn't occupy much space.

The Giamatti John Adams series is pale and boring in comparison IMO. :)

Porchlight

OL, very true at 12:57. They think Trump is over the top in part because they underestimate the opposition. Some of the old line conservatives just don't want to know the truth.

Narciso

Da silva was blacklisted in 1951

jimmyk

More propaganda from the NYT:

The New York Times
@nytimes
The U.S. economy is shaped by management practices invented under slavery, writes Matthew Desmond. "Cotton planters, millers and consumers were fashioning a new economy, one that was global in scope and required the movement of capital, labor and products"

It's a "story" on the "brutality of American capitalism," by someone named Matthew Desmond.

henry

The NYT has turned into a hate crime in action.

jimmyk

American capitalism is so brutal it's only dramatically improved the lives of billions of people over the last 250 years, with millions of people banging on the door trying to get in.

The Infamous Ignatz

OL,
The only thing I was disagreeing about is that the Founders would ever anticipate a country in which a boneheaded dolt like Ed Markey would be the heir of John and John Quincy Adams or that some brilliantined, perverted mediocrity like Navine Gruesome would ever be elected governor of any state.
I think they figured we'd either be gobbled up by a greater power or have undergone a second revolution before we'd entertain the idea of voluntarily electing a caste of particularly dimwitted and truculent centipedes to rule over us.

cathyf

As anyone who knows anything about the Civil War knows, that was quite simply free-market capitalists fighting a war to end the competitive advantage of Democrats who didn’t have to pay their workers.

jimmyk

I think they figured we'd either be gobbled up by a greater power or have undergone a second revolution before we'd entertain the idea of voluntarily electing a caste of particularly dimwitted and truculent centipedes to rule over us.

No, I think when Ben Franklin said "A republic, if you can keep it," he had in mind precisely the kind of decay from within that has taken place.

D

Iggy and Jimmyk:
You are both correct.
I can’t remember a time when we have had such rotten leaders in Congress.
Omar and Tlaib are not representing their constituents here in America.
They are spokeswomen for the Muslim brotherhood and Palis.

jimmyk

The Founders hoped that by establishing a republic rather than a democracy it would better withstand the tendency toward tyranny. But a lot of their concerns were about the people remaining virtuous and religious. Both Adams and Franklin have statements that “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom" (Franklin).

henry

scan of crowd at link.

BNL NEWS
@BreakingNLive

RACE TO 2020: WATCH: Major crowd, aprox. 12,000 people, attended an Elizabeth Warren rally in Macalester, Minnesota yesterday:

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1163857583934988295

Captain Hate

Because, just like Andrew McCarthy and so many others, Barone simply cannot imagine the rules being broken beyond what ward bosses and Kennedys managed. It is the audacious magnitude of scale that befuddles him.

I'm still not sure what value to assign to vote fraud. The party that most people here believe is victimized by it shows no willingness to confront it, going back to Nixon in 1960. So it remains a mystery number.

Melinda

OL-

I think it’s more likely that “No major convictions means no major deal.” For Barone.

Buckeye

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom"

When the news clip aired of the "Obamaphone" gal during Romney's run for Prez, I knew we were on our way down the sewer.


henry

Lindsey Graham @LindseyGrahamSC
3h

Congresswomen @RashidaTlaib and @IlhanMN Omar are calling on Congress to reconsider aid to Israel?

I have.

It’s time to provide MORE assistance to Israel for their missile defense program.

Buckeye

It is Minnesota henry.

Porchlight

RACE TO 2020: WATCH: Major crowd, aprox. 12,000 people, attended an Elizabeth Warren rally in Macalester, Minnesota yesterday

There is no Macalester, MN. She was at Macalester College in St. Paul.

Macalester was where you went when you couldn't get into my alma mater. Low rent commies.

henry

Thanks. smarter optics than three rubes and a corn dog in Iowa.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

I think I've figured out Miss Lindsey's fetish.

He has one of those ball inflator thingies that thee gays parade around with at the Folsom Street fair, and he occasionally inflates his.

No idea how else to explain his on again off again Trump imitations and reverting to McCain lite.

Jack is Back!

Frederick starts his 5th Form (11th grade) in a few weeks. This year he is taking American History. I am not familiar with the textbook, it could be a clone of Howard Zinn's work, for all I know. So, I have added 3 books to his dorm room library: Brian Lamb's "Booknotes: Stories from American History", based on his C-Span show. Also "The Great Republic: A HIstory of America", by Sir Winston Churchill and edited by his grandson, Winston S. Churchill. The best single volume history of the United States published outside the country. Lastly, "1776", by David McCullough.

I told him that they were to be used as reality checks and to supplement any critical thinking in terms of papers and/or supplemental discussion. I've read all 3 and found them to be very informative especially Churhill's opus.

His En

Jack is Back!

His English elective is "The Psyche", for the Fall semester in which he reads, "The Turn of the Screw", "Dracula", "The Shining" and others to be listed later. In the Spring semester he is signed up for "Literature of the Vietnam War", which I am really curious about what angle the school is going to come from.

jimmyk

When the news clip aired of the "Obamaphone" gal during Romney's run for Prez, I knew we were on our way down the sewer.

The other problem is that we have Republican like Romney who seem to think that it is sufficient to signal their own virtue. Franklin and Adams were not talking about office-holders needing to be virtuous.

Buckeye

JiB

It is good you won't be sitting in his classes.

I have a sneaky suspicion you would get pissed off pretty frequently:)

He'll be fine. He has a good head on his shoulders.

Buckeye

Excellent point jimmyk.

Jane

"It is the audacious magnitude of scale that befuddles him."

Which IMO is a good sign as it indicates it hasn't always been this corrupt. (Probably more corrupt than they imagined - but nowhere to this level.) It's the post-obama America.

I've been waiting for Andy McCarthy's book to arrive (for a long time now). It will interesting to hear what he has to say about how wrong he was.

mike in houston

Porchight,

Here is the scene you were talking about. Living in CT back in the day, I was lucky enough to see the original Broadway production. I can still remember the final scene when the scrim lowered and the Declaration was on it, and the actors were arrayed like the famous Trumbull painting. Gave me chills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeuaTpH6Ck0

Jane

JIB,

Megan started senior year/first year of college yesterday - they combine them. Amy thinks last year was the hardest and this year will be a lot less stressful, altho I think Megan thrives on stress.

Her school is science/math oriented and she is in love with math. I think she plans on going to MIT as a sophomore next year. She took a course there this summer and I assume she nailed it.

Does Frederick have any idea what he wants to do next year? It sure is fun watching these kids grow up.

Porchlight

mike in houston,

Thanks - I knew you'd know and appreciate it. :)

D

Porch:
Loved 1776”
A production from New York came to Cleveland and we went to see it!
Frederick can take the American History AP exam even if he isn’t taking the AP course.Is he taking any AP classes.
Jane:
I assume Meghan has already taken AP Cslculus and the AB and BC exams.
She can take AP math courses during the school year at her local college as well.

henry

Oil fields, even abandoned oil fields, still contain significant amounts of oil. The researchers have found that injecting oxygen into the fields raises the temperature and liberates H2, which can then be separated from other gases via specialist filters. Hydrogen is not pre-existing in the reservoirs, but pumping oxygen means that the reaction to form hydrogen can take place.

https://phys.org/news/2019-08-scientists-hydrogen-gas-oil-bitumen.amp

D

APChemistry, Physics and Biology exams can also be taken this year or next.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Having trouble finding Almond Flour at my local grocery stores but I did find coconut flour. Any comments? Simple recipes?

This article suggests avoiding almond flour and using coconut instead. Not particularly convincing but moredata points
https://empoweredsustenance.com/avoid-almond-flour/

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Sounds about right to me...

"An Indian walks into a cafe with a shotgun in one hand and pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter:

"Want coffee."
The waiter says, "Sure, Chief. Coming right up."

He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee . . .

The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp, turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun, causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then just walks out.
The next morning the Indian returns.
He has his shotgun in one hand, pulling another male buffalo with the other.

He walks up to the counter and says to the waiter:
"Want coffee."

The waiter says, "Whoa, Tonto!
We're still cleaning up your mess from yesterday. What was all that about, anyway?"

The Indian smiles and proudly says,

"Training for a position in United States Congress . . . Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up, disappear for rest of d

boris

ay

clarice

Jim, costco,com (Kirkland) and Jet.com(Blue Diamond) both carry almond flour at the best prices. Coconut flour absorbs more liquid so recipes that call for almond flour cannot be easily substituted with coconut flour , Bob's red mill also on line carries it. I think it has a more neutral flavor than coconut flour does.

Other nut flours like walnut can be used in its place.

If you have a powerful blender you can turn blanched almonds into flour.

Rocco

From the Library of Congress, "Religion and the Founding of the American Republic."

This exhibition demonstrates that many of the colonies that in 1776 became the United States of America were settled by men and women of deep religious convictions who in the seventeenth century crossed the Atlantic Ocean to practice their faith freely. That the religious intensity of the original settlers would diminish to some extent over time was perhaps to be expected, but new waves of eighteenth century immigrants brought their own religious fervor across the Atlantic and the nation's first major religious revival in the middle of the eighteenth century injected new vigor into American religion. The result was that a religious people rose in rebellion against Great Britain in 1776, and that most American statesmen, when they began to form new governments at the state and national levels, shared the convictions of most of their constituents that religion was, to quote Alexis de Tocqueville's observation, indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. The efforts of the Founders of the American nation to define the role of religious faith in public life and the degree to which it could be supported by public officials that was not inconsistent with the revolutionary imperatives of the equality and freedom of all citizens is the central question which this exhibition explores.

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/

Buckeye

JimSunnny

We have a grocery store that caters to the "hipster" crowd in Columbus.

That is where if found most of the oddball stuff, almond flour, swerve sugar replacement (erythritol), and the like.

Stuff is a bit pricey.

jimmyk

Bari Weiss is less insane than most NYT writers, but here, while she acknowledges they're not covering the story about Miftah, the anti-Semitic organization that was sponsoring Tlaib and Omar, she of course blames Trump.

https://twitter.com/newsbusters/status/1163890694613655552

(Short video at link.)

MissMarple3

pic.twitter.com/WyGbgUGEhJ

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 20, 2019

Link goes to clip from Lou Dobbs.

Jack is Back!

Jane and D,

Frederick is more jock than scholar but he is trending toward serious academic discipline. He is very verbal and visual oriented although he loves hard science. He knows this year is make or break for getting everything in shape if he wants a good college. Looking at Biomedical Engineering and using his Crew credentials as an assist.

MissMarple3

Retweeted by the President. Video at link.

Sunday on Full Measure: Claims of media bias aren’t new, but they are heightened. What will this mean for the 2020 election? Find out results of our Full Measure poll. #2020 pic.twitter.com/r0H6i94NuK

— Full Measure News (@FullMeasureNews) August 16, 2019
Jack is Back!

Jim, if you are in Sunnyvale area there should be a Whole Food on every street corner😎

Catsmeat

RSE, you are doing a great job with your very difficult situation with your parents. And that link was indeed just ghastly--run, do not walk, from public schools and many private ones.

James D.--I always agree with you!

narc, "malefactum of american history"--one of your best!

Dave (in MA)
ay Posted by: boris | August 20, 2019 at 03:16 PM

It was a Fonzie scheme.

MissMarple3

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/20/flight-logs-prove-alleged-epstein-victim-linked-prince-andrew/

MissMarple3

https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/judicial-watch-files-complaint-with-rhode-island-supreme-court-against-u-s-senator-sheldon-whitehouse-for-unauthorized-practice-of-law/

Catsmeat

Oh, and I have a boy too (my last child of four and latter of the boys) as a senior this year (a year ahead of Frederick). Football varsity DE, Eagle Scout, straight As, 5 APs last year (all 4s and 5s), 5 APs this year plus Calc III. Also, he's a sweetheart who moreover hates to spend my money, and gorgeous. I am hereby bragging! Won't do it anymore. GUS will understand (that's so nice, GUS, you still have my Christmas card!).

Narciso

Thanks i was thinking of that witches guide in salem, but thats what zinn and lepore wnd up being, this will become lesson plans by spring at the latest.

Thats a fascinating surveu of works, heney james, stoker and king, jib

Narciso

Doesnt seem that run down of a place:

https://mobile.twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1163818845359841280?s=12&fbclid=IwAR10zf39nAJyGud6BV5GNKt-gp1qICk6vqLIfnCsa8-KFhTLB8fzKveX1xQ

D

Catsmeat:
Sounds like your son has the complete resume to attend the college of his choice.
Good luck to him in the college choice process.
JIB
If Frederick is very verbal,an AP English course would be recommended.

MissMarple3

President Trump and the President of Romania. Answers questions from the press. 29 minutes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duyOnksOaoQ

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