This Is Why We Watch - Biden v. Inslee

My pick for the debate highlight was too silly to make the news but here we go: VP Joe Biden and Gov. Inslee were grappling on energy policy and climate change. Inslee was insisting that time is running out and we had to take BOLD STEPS NOW, leading to this classic exchange:

INSLEE: ...I've heard you say that we need a realistic plan. Here's what I believe...

BIDEN: No, I didn't say that.

We can't put up realistic plans, this is a Democratic debate!

Comments

[boris]

Good ol' Jow Blow(hard).

[Porchlight]

I began to feel a bit sorry for Joe after the first few minutes.

What a bunch of jerks.

Except Michael Bennet, who was reasonable and goodnatured, and who is far too sensible for the Dems to ever nominate.

Inslee was also polite, for the most part. I can see why some of the true believers like him.

[henry]

realistic plans are worse than republican talking points. Huff these unicorn farts and soil a street in San Francisco, comrade. /Dem

[MissMarple3]

Porchlight,

Unless they have an easy way to identify them (like DeBlasio being tall) I have trouble keeping track of who is who outside of the frontrunners.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--BIDEN: No, I didn't say that.--

That just gets funnier the more I think about it.

The part that isn't funny is that we don't need a plan at all and any plan, realistic or otherwise, will be a wealth and freedom crushing disaster solving a non existent problem.

[Porchlight]

Most of them will be gone soon anyway, MM.

I guess I find it a tiny bit heartening that a mainstream guy like Bennet can still get enough traction to at least make it to the debate stage in today's Dem party. He had to pay some lip service to fruitcake ideas here and there, but you got the impression he didn't really GAS about them.

[MissMarple3]

Savage. Randy Savage.‏ @_hublette · 2m2 minutes ago

Dem debates: Cover band at an empty bar that serves bad drinks, worse food and lots of sound/technical issues

Trump Rally: Rock Hall of Fame world tour headliner at massive sold out stadium you'll be talking about the rest of your life.
========================================
An absolutely spot-on assessment.

[jimmyk]

From the last thread:
Absent a smoking gun of them admitting they knew they were false they'll just say "in our best judgment we thought they had been verified to the best of our ability.

Somehow that doesn't work for Republicans (Libby, Flynn, et al.) even for much less serious offenses.

[Porchlight]

Vox is butthurt that people have nutty ideas.

The vast majority of these nutty ideas are conceived and birthed and reared by leftists. Vox doesn't like that this makes the left look bad. Therefore, speech must be suppressed.

[MissMarple3]

pic.twitter.com/It3T0ANlrs

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2019

6-minute video with Lou Dobbs and a Chinese expert at the link.

[Narciso]

Shes dangerous for a whole host of other reasons they consider neat.

In other news the Indian tanker captain. Thinks the Brits should have used the comfy chair.

[Threadkiller]

My guess is that one of the leaders will eventually try Ted Cruz's strategy and pick a more exciting VP candidate while still in the primary.

[Porchlight]

I'm sure you're right, TK. It's a huge mistake IMO.

[Tom R]

Bigmouths like Joe DiGenova refuse to acknowledge that they're being played by insiders they trust and keep spouting inaccurate claims.

Maybe he is a useful cog on the Kabuki wheel.

Kabuki seems like the most logical conclusion to make.

[Narciso]

Tongue planted firmly in cheek:

https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2019/07/31/its-all-about-climate-change-man/?fbclid=IwAR3Q-mWy2pajUgnicUshnslQQXl3DI8J_JJFvak5f0semsR4eo1p3XViLoQ

[henry]

this seems a threat. @jack will ignore it.

https://twitter.com/antifaintl/status/1133116125204635648

[henry]

Zoe Tillman
@ZoeTillman

NOW: A judge has denied Roger Stone's efforts to dismiss the prosecution against him. She will let him see a few unredacted sections of Mueller's report, but he cannot share them publicly

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1156948842086096897

[Threadkiller]

Kabuki is an inevitable conclusion.

[Narciso]

No I would use terms I cant employ in a family blog, Kafka says hi so does no 6

[James D.]

Vox is butthurt that people have nutty ideas.

I want Vox and everyone who works for it, advertises with it or is associated with it in any way, to go bankrupt.

[Tom R]

I've tried posting a long reply to Henry and Iggy twice. Preview works and when I hit Post I get confirmation it was processed but the post doesn't show up. Any ideas what is going on with that?

[henry]

Typhuspad doesn't like the site you link to. Try bitly or something.

[MissMarple3]

Tom R.,

That is what I had happen this morning with a Washington Examiner article. I thought the Examiner had been moved to the "unapproved web site" list like some of the more obscure blogs and sites.

I just gave up trying.

[James D.]

If I was forced at gunpoint to vote for one of the Dem candidates, it would definitely be Williamson.

She may be a nut, and dangerous, but she’s not a career criminal (oops, I mean politician), and as a total outsider with no support from the Dem establishment, she’d face a lot of the same kind of resistance from her own party that President Trump gets from the GOPe, so it would be harder for her to do damage to the country than it would for any of the other Dems currently running.

[Narciso]

Back when her client was taking payoffs from Nigerian oligarchs in cold hard cash she thought different, this is the same carp they put Edwin Wilson through for 20 years, meanwhile his men Cline secord et al started up new enterprises.

[Tom R]

Dual response to Henry @8:17 and Iggy @ 10:33 breaking it up into two parts since Typepad is eating it.

Henry's comment about a DawsonSFields tweet
internet sleuths, what idiocy can't they fluff?

And people can’t fathom why it is valuable to pretend Comey isn’t on Trump’s team.

From Iggy' 10:33

Expecting the Swamp's own justice system to drain itself is unrealistic isn't it?
The only possible way it is drained is from without, not within.

People properly laugh at some of the 4D nonsense and then turn around and think the rule of law can be imposed by the very Swamp that administers its own justice

The rule of law and the Swamp cannot coexist. The Swamp controls the rule of law so the necessary pretext of reestablsihing the rule of law to eliminate the Swamp is unrealistic and as pie in the sky as 4d ever was.

Henry and Iggy's comments are connected. Fields does believe Comey is on Team Trump. I know that causes almost everyone here to automatically label him an idiot. In reality I think its more along the lines of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Comey is not an ally of Trump and those who believe in Constitutional rule of law shouldn't want that anyways. We already saw with Obama how bad a corrupt, partisan DOJ/FBI can violate the principals the country was founded on. What we really need is a DOJ/FBI that is non-partisan and follows the rule of law. If you view Comey from the perspective he wasn't on Team Trump nor was he on Team Obama and Team Hillary then DawsonSFields speculative tweets make a lot of sense. Fields is speculating that Comey is actually on Team DOJ/FBI and following the rule of law. Bear with me.

[Melinda]

Wanna bet?

[Tom R]

part 2 (third try)

Iggy's point that you cant drain the Swamp from within, it has to be from without, is probably correct. According to DawsonSFields, Spygate started long before Trump started his campaign to become POTUS. Fields, with plenty of evidence to back himself up, speculates the Obama admin was spying on a LOT of influential people to include Senators for a long time well prior to the 2016 campaign. I don't think anyone here disputes that.

Now factor in the hack of Mossack Fonseca that led to the leak of the Panama Papers in 2015. 11.5 million documents leaked to the public that revealed a global money laundering scheme that reached to the highest levels of numerous governments, politicians, Wall Street, bankers, etc. If the only way to drain the Swamp is from the outside, the leak of the Panama Papers would be the way to do it. According to DawsonSField, Comey and FBI agents he could trust (good guys, not McCabe/Strzok types) began a FBI investigation into the global money laundering scandal. This all started while Obama was still POTUS.

[Narciso]

Comey ran interference for HSBC the overworld bank of choice, Mueller was very circumspect with banamex and his firm represented Deutsche bank, whose largest shareholder is Chinese hna.

[Tom R]

Part 3

Here is one of Fields key points: the main reason Obama and his criminal cabal started spying on numerous influential people is because they knew the Panama Papers implicated the large majority of their globalist/Communist/Progressive or whatever label you want to call their corrupt allies. I guess you could say the Panama Papers leak was the final trigger for Obama to go FULL COMMIE. At that point they had to do whever they could to protect the Swamp members implicated in the Panama Papers.

Remember when Hillary was reported to have said something along the lines that if Trump got elected then everyone was screwed? Analyze in the context she knew Comey's global money laundering investigation would target her and the Clinton Foundation. A Trump victory meant Comey's investigation would be allowed to proceed. On almost a daily basis there is breaking news on people getting arrested around the world who are connected to the global money laundering scandal. The Swamp is indeed in the process of getting drained from the outside.

Anyways this has gone on long enough. IMO Fields speculation on Spygate and the global money laundering scandal are highly plauisble. I definately don't think they are idiotic. If Fields is correct, then the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies to Comey. The global money laundering investigation targeted Trump's political enemies so therefore on that issue they are on the same side.

[Tom R]

Melinda @ 11:47

Were you responding to me?

[henry]

Comey follows rule of law? What part of the law says Hillary needed "intent" (which she demonstrated anyway) to be guilty of violating laws on classification, or government record keeping? That is the funniest thing I've heard yet.

[Porchlight]

Trump rally now scheduled for August 15 in NH. Since NH was stolen by only a handful of votes in 2016, I think this is a reasonable prospect for a Trump pickup in 2020.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/ckp85e/trump_rally_in_nh_cant_wait/

If I'm correct this is the first official 2020 campaign rally in a Hillary state. He visited MN in 2019 - another Parscale special target.

[Narciso]

Hive mind is very stupid:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1156848423150264320

[Extraneus]

Although a technical violation, the DOJ did not want to “make its first case against the Russia investigators with such thin margins and look petty and vindictive,” a source told me, explaining the DOJ’s rationale.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/455616-james-comeys-next-reckoning-is-imminent-this-time-for-leaking

[MissMarple3]

Another Day in @realDonaldTrump’s America. 🇺🇸 #KeepAmericaGreat
pic.twitter.com/YLjCltk23I

— The Meme Corps (@TheMemeCorps) August 1, 2019

Video at link. And it really is rather unnerving.

[MissMarple3]

"A string of court cases that have been run through the legal system that have hit DEAD ENDS...." @BillHemmer @AmericaNewsroom pic.twitter.com/lQ7tgKWM9u

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2019

Video at link.

[Melinda]

no.

[Porchlight]

Although a technical violation, the DOJ did not want to “make its first case against the Russia investigators with such thin margins and look petty and vindictive,” a source told me, explaining the DOJ’s rationale.

I think that's pretty smart. The first case needs to be slam dunk.

[Melinda]

New:

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/bwi-airport-rocket-launcher-second-found-this-week

[Narciso]

Now that's being sloppy

https://pjmedia.com/trending/climate-loon-inslee-hints-that-fossil-fuel-execs-are-murderers/

[Narciso]

Dow Hope's for another pony, I mean rate cut.

[Porchlight]

Last night, among other things like forced integration of schools, there was talk about how we have to get off fossil fuels within ten years.

Imagine. They actually think this is not only desirable, but possible.

[Narciso]

That's insane and impossible

https://freebeacon.com/politics/collins-challenger-used-pac-to-reimburse-own-contributions/

[Captain Hate]

That's a lot of nukes to build in a ten year window amirite?

[henry]

That's a lot of nukes trolleys to build in a ten year window amirite?

Logic is patriarchal, so the left doesn't use any.

[anonamom]

Just read this at Insty:

The internet was all abuzz because a mic caught Biden calling Harris “kid” when the two walked on stage. Is there any limit to how petty and self-hating these lefties are? Biden said ‘Go easy on me, kid’ and all the grievance mongers were off the races.”

He must have used the same line on Ryan--and it seems to have worked both times.

[James D.]

Although a technical violation, the DOJ did not want to “make its first case against the Russia investigators with such thin margins and look petty and vindictive,” a source told me, explaining the DOJ’s rationale

It’s going to be portrayed as petty and vindictive regardless of how strong the case is. And there’s no way in hell a DC or Northern Virginia jury will convict any of these deep stagers anyway.

May as well file the charges, bleed them dry with legal defense fees, raid their homes and cart off every electronic device and scrap of paper as evidence, and just generally make their lives as hellish as possible for as long as possible.

Teach them that process can be punishment for their side, too, not just for conservatives.

[anonamom]

Michael Moore says Only Michelle can beat POTUS:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/455702-michael-moore-urges-michelle-obama-to-run-against-trump

He did predict POTUS's win in 2016, as I recall. Or maybe more accurately, HRC's loss.

[Narciso]

A chip off the old rotten block

https://freebeacon.com/politics/anti-israel-activist-receives-sword-from-venezuelan-dictator/

Hes actually a Russian enabler.

[Captain Hate]

I don't mind Biden being on the receiving end of a bunch of "unfair" slams since that's what fueled his upward trajectory. I still don't understand why that paste eating retard is running other than to ward off future DOJ action against him and his drug addict children.

[MissMarple3]

pic.twitter.com/0Zx9wr3MoP

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2019

Video at link. (It's about Comey.)

[Melinda]

I See Elijah's bride heard from the IRS.

[James D.]

I still don't understand why that paste eating retard is running

1. “It’s my turn!”
2. He’s surrounded by yes-men whose continued employment depends on constantly massaging his ego, so of course all he ever hears is that he’s obviously the best, nay, the only Dem who can beat President Trump.
3. All that sweet, sweet campaign cash they can be converted to personal use when the campaign’s over.
4. It’s not like he’s qualified to do anything other than campaign. Standing up on a stage telling lies, mangling nonsensical stories and slandering anyone he doesn’t like is pretty much his core competency.
5. His wife probably is encouraging him, because after all, would YOU want him hanging around the house all day?

[Buckeye]

All that sweet, sweet campaign cash they can be converted to personal use when the campaign’s over.

Explains why a lot of candidates are running.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Am getting damn tired of braindead MAGA uber alles types who think the president will automatically win reelection because the Dems are socialist idiots.

So is half of America, you gits.

Obama won twice and Hillary came within an inch of doing it. 100,000 votes the other way and we would have lost the electoral college.

And anyway, it's too early to make a prediction on the specific outcome at all.

One thing I can say with certainty though. If out of robotic loyalty we underestimate the opposition because of a lemming-like groupthink then we deserve to lose.

This fight will be a hard one no matter who is their nominee. We have arrayed against us the full force of the left, center left, Vichy GOP, pop culture, entertainment, academia, publishing, Hollywood, etc.

We are the Allies in 1943. No matter what happens, which way the hinge of fate turns, it will be a close run thing.

To think otherwise is presumptuously diving off a cliff. - David Kamioner - Ops Lens

[hrtshpdbox]

Biden talking to press in Detroit right now - he is on fire, speaking in complete sentences. And gave a shout-out to Booker. Biden-Booker, they'll be sayin'.

[Captain Hate]

Fuck off, Kamioner.

[henry]

Frank Scavo @fscavo
13m

Free download of "Theft Nation: How IP Theft Drives the Chinese National Business Model, and Its Effect Upon the Global Economy" from @stratnews. Formerly available only to global leaders in intelligence, trade, and politics.

https://twitter.com/fscavo/status/1156974840366022656

[jimmyk]

Not sure who you have in mind, Steph. I can only speak for myself, and I do think Trump will prevail, but it won't be a cakewalk by any stretch. Trump has a lot of energy, as do his supporters, and that will push him over the top.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

I agree with the sentiment which is also expressed by Insty...

Don't get cocky kid!

[MissMarple3]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 8m8 minutes ago

Our representatives have just returned from China where they had constructive talks having to do with a future Trade Deal. We thought we had a deal with China three months ago, but sadly, China decided to re-negotiate the deal prior to signing. More recently, China agreed to...

...buy agricultural product from the U.S. in large quantities, but did not do so. Additionally, my friend President Xi said that he would stop the sale of Fentanyl to the United States – this never happened, and many Americans continue to die! Trade talks are continuing, and...

...during the talks the U.S. will start, on September 1st, putting a small additional Tariff of 10% on the remaining 300 Billion Dollars of goods and products coming from China into our Country. This does not include the 250 Billion Dollars already Tariffed at 25%...

...We look forward to continuing our positive dialogue with China on a comprehensive Trade Deal, and feel that the future between our two countries will be a very bright one

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
12m

Our representatives have just returned from China where they had constructive talks having to do with a future Trade Deal. We thought we had a deal with China three months ago, but sadly, China decided to re-negotiate the deal prior to signing. More recently, China agreed to...

...buy agricultural product from the U.S. in large quantities, but did not do so. Additionally, my friend President Xi said that he would stop the sale of Fentanyl to the United States – this never happened, and many Americans continue to die! Trade talks are continuing, and...

...during the talks the U.S. will start, on September 1st, putting a small additional Tariff of 10% on the remaining 300 Billion Dollars of goods and products coming from China into our Country. This does not include the 250 Billion Dollars already Tariffed at 25%...

...We look forward to continuing our positive dialogue with China on a comprehensive Trade Deal, and feel that the future between our two countries will be a very bright one!

[MissMarple3]

Regarding the President's tweet:

If you didn't listen to Dr. Pilsbury talking to Lou Dobbs in that video the President tweeted (I know some people are in places where they can't listen to videos) I want to emphasize one thing Dr. Pulsbury said: the Chinese didn't realize that they would be expected to sign a legally binding agreement, where Chinese companies could be sued by US companies.

They thought they were just going to be able have an informal agreement with a sense of purpose but nothing legally binding.

So that's why they wanted to renegotiate before they signed, seemingly at the last minute.

[Captain Hate]

Obama won twice and Hillary came within an inch of doing it.

Gaylord won against two terrible candidates who I'm embarrassed by having voting for and won't make that mistake again. He also followed a terrible Bush presidency that only the biggest pom pom wavers would call anything but a disaster.

Trump was an unknown quantity in 2016. For every protest voter there were surely offsetting people who were afraid he'd be in over his head. I'm not taking anything for granted but I'm also not reacting well to hair on fire arguments.

[MissMarple3]

I am with Captain Hate. Trump has proven that he can handle the job and that he keeps his promises. Those surely will bring him more voters than last time.

Of course we have to work and show up, but I would point out all the work in the world couldn't pull Romney over the finish line. Trump did it without any of the high-paid consultants. This time his campaign manager is Brad Parscale, who has to be a genius. Who else would have thought of the Trump straws?

I think Trump will win and I am not going to give one inch in my effort, so please knock off with the insults to people who aren't as pessimistic.

[Porchlight]

To think otherwise is presumptuously diving off a cliff. - David Kamioner - Ops Lens

Fine. The smarter-than-thous have their place, they can sound the alarm from their perch above the battlefield.

Meanwhile a very large number of optimistic foot soldiers are needed on the ground and in the foxholes.

When the rank and file are gloomy and pessimistic, then I'll start worrying.

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

[Melinda]

Go back to that polling analyst from the night before last. They're trying to force positions that the public currently doesn't want, with most on a two to on against.

That's not a tough sell.

[hrtshpdbox]

I think Trump will win in a rout, but I can see as of today that the nominee is Biden; you know the Kamala train has ground to a halt when Michael Moore comes out today saying only Michelle Obama can beat Trump. Either Michelle actually does decide to run, or Barack will soon be conferring his mighty blessing on Slow Joe. Biden, because he is not a SJW, will be the hardest candidate for Trump to beat. Pennsylvania might go to Biden, Florida would be more in trouble against Biden than against any of the others.

Still, Trump is a force of nature, and at the end of the day most voters will reward a good first term.

[Tom R]

Meanwhile a very large number of optimistic foot soldiers are needed on the ground and in the foxholes.

Porch you are welcome to fight along side me in my foxhole all the time :-)

[henry]

election memory is short term. By next fall the Dem nominee will be "moderate" without a trace of all things that poll badly. Trump should win, but I do not expect a cakewalk.

[Porchlight]

Obama won twice and Hillary came within an inch of doing it.

That's just it. Even a crap President like Obama who got royally spanked in his first midterm was able to easily win re-election two years later.

And after he was done, the most name-recognized candidate in the last thirty years couldn't beat a septuagenarian upstart running in his first election ever.

In 2019 that upstart is arguably the most successful Republican incumbent in modern history who has kicked ass up and down the field for two and a half years even as he was being opposed by nearly everyone except those that voted for him and restrained and hounded by an investigation which only the total diehards now fail to realize was partisan illegal bullshit.

A little perspective, please.

[henry]

less hyperbole please.

[Porchlight]

I wasn't addressing you, henry. I'll insert as much hyperbole as I like. If anyone deserves it, it's Trump.

[Tom R]

Henry @ 11:53

Keep in mind while the Hillary email server investigation was going on its highly likely Comey was also investigating the global money laundering scandal.

As I see it there are two perspectives to view how Comey handled the Hillary email server scandal: the idealistic view and the pragmatic view.

In an ideal world the FBI conducts a non-partisan, objective investigation into Hillary's email server, provides the evidence they collect to the DOJ, the DOJ indicts Hillary for committing multipled federal crimes related to protecting TOP SECRET classified information, and Hillary is forced to withdraw from the 2016 Presidential campaign. That all happens in an ideal world. How history plays out after that is a crap shoot. Biden would likely be the selected choice to replace Hillary. Trump got a lot of Democrat crossover votes in a lot of blue and purple states that he won. Does Trump still win Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin if he is running against Biden?

In a pragmatic world Comey knows a lot of his CounterIntel agents running the Hillary email server investigation are corrupt, hyper-partisan and Hillary supporters. Peter Strzok is the best example. He knew from the outset his corrupt agents weren't trying to nail Hillary, they were trying to protect her. Even if Strzok does an objective investigation and tries to nail Hillary, the Lynch DOJ still had to make the decision to indict her. Comey's comment that no reasonable prosecutor would indict Hillary is 100% true. Since everyone expected Hillary to win the election, what Democrat US Attorney working in the Lynch DOJ would commit career suicide and indict Hillary? That was never going to happen and Comey knew it so he took the pragmatic approach.

How many people here at JOM were enraged after Comey's press conference where he explained in detail all the crimes Hillary committed but was not going to be indicted for? My guess is almost everyone was pissed off. I know I was. Multiply that rage across the entire country and the end result of how Comey handled the Hillary email server IMO caused a LOT of voters to support Trump. What Comey clearly told the country was that Hillary Clinton was above the law and would not be held accountable when it was clear she had committed a federal crime. I think Comey screwed Hillary over twice, intentionally, because he knew she was corrupt, had committed multiple crimes, and thru the Clinton Foundation was intimately involved in the global money laundering scandal.

[Captain Hate]

Also I don't react well to arguments that badmouth the voting public. Sure a lot of times people get elected that I didn't support but that's not because voters are stupid; almost always it's because the person I supported ran a terrible campaign. The GOP has developed a really bad attitude regarding taking the base for granted and acting like their candidate doesn't have to earn their support. Trump, from the private sector, understands working hard to create a brand and never failing to appeal to existing and potential customers.

In a way it's embarrassing that no non ruling class Presidents have happened since Coolidge, I guess. It's up to us to make sure non political class candidates keep happening.

[D]

I reviewed today's Posts.
No one insulted anybody.
I watched the debates to reassure myself that none of these jokers can defeat our President.
We will have to continue to work hard ?but I am confident President Trump will prevail.

[Porchlight]

Other than the Bushes I don't view any Republican presidents since Coolidge as ruling class - but maybe it depends what you mean, Cap'n.

henry, sorry, that came off more aggressive than I meant it. I was responding to Kamioner, who himself was aggressive toward the so-called "braindead MAGA uber alles types." Without whom Trump would likely never have been elected.

[Porchlight]

Truman was also not ruling class, though he did come out of a political machine and succeeded a patrician.

[henry]

porch, agree on Kamioner. he comes off as a #nevertrump scold in key ways.

[Porchlight]

Porch you are welcome to fight along side me in my foxhole all the time :-)

Thanks Tom R. We at JOM may not always agree, but I think most of us like a happy warrior.

[boris]

I think Joe and Beth have something to say about too much pessimism :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPB3ztilOM

[Porchlight]

henry, he's right that there is a good reason to be cautious. There always is. It's just the attitude - scold-ish, as you say.

[Captain Hate]

I should've thought that through better, Porch. Ike was kind of a gray area because military isn't the private sector and to achieve his rank meant understanding politics. Nixon had a business existence but was primarily a pol. Ford was a pol. Reagan was a self made actor who turned to politics later.

Nobody but Perot and nutjobs like Nader used the Presidency as an entry level undertaking.

[henry]

Of course they did. They is the SV method.

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
9m

Facebook hits fresh session low as Dow Jones reports that the FTC is examining whether Facebook bought companies like Instagram and WhatsApp to neutralize rivals and the agency is reaching out to founders who sold companies to Facebook

[Melinda]

The whole OpLens piece:

https://www.opslens.com/2019/08/harris-driven-to-her-knees-as-biden-surges/

[MissMarple3]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/01/liberal-watchdog-fusion-gps-trump/

Another liberal group paying money to Fusion GPS.

[Jane]

This is the first election that I can remember where one candidate acts and talks like he has dementia. Surely I'm not the only person to notice.

He also has never held a job in the private sector, and has no accomplishments that he can name.

Now maybe the majority of voters don't pay attention, but that is a pretty big leap.

[henry]

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
1m

From @WSJopinion: California’s attempt to rig the ballot against Trump shows the extent to which Democrats have become so unhinged in their hatred that they are willing to violate political norms to oust him, writes The Editorial Board

[MissMarple3]

pic.twitter.com/cbw3KXwvES

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2019

6-minute video at the link.

[hrtshpdbox]

Biden took his Adderal or Aricept, or both, today for his mini-presser, he seemed right as rain in the clips I watched.

[Tom R]

For your entertainment:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/07/31/trump-era-calls-for-marianne-williamson-spiritual-politics-column/1878296001/

[hrtshpdbox]

California might be able to keep Trump off their primary ballot, but they can't keep him off the election day ballot (I don't even think they think they can).

[henry]

If California is worried Trump will win there... I'm gonna need moar beer.

[Threadkiller]

That is an interesting thought, Hrt. California went to the "top two" primary system which eliminated any possible write in candidates on the General ballot. If national law forces Trump to be on the General ballot, it could completely unravel this miserable primary system.

[Porchlight]

I gotcha Cap'n. I thought you meant Ivy League/blue bloods. Leaping from the private sector directly to the presidency is certainly rare, but then, it always has been.

[Captain Hate]

Ol' Yeller pointed out that state laws cannot overrule the Constitution regarding eligibility for President.

[Porchlight]

Does anyone get the sense that the DNC nominee is already selected? Or is the party truly divided enough that non-selected candidate has a chance (at least until the superdelegates get their marching orders)?

[Captain Hate]

Porch, the point that I poorly tried to make was that the Founders didn't imagine politics as a lifetime career.

[Porchlight]

Oh yes, for sure, Cap'n. I rarely say this, but they should have known better. :)