Back In The Ukraine

The NY Times explains that the "focus" of the Whistleblower scandal is whether Trump abused Presidential power for political purposes in 2019. Trump wants to "deflect" from that by alleging that Obama/Biden abused Presidential power for political purposes by pressuring the Ukraine in 2016. Hmm.

The controversy has focused on whether Mr. Trump manipulated foreign policy — a military aid package to Ukraine had been delayed at the time of the phone call — to pressure the country’s newly elected president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to take action to damage Mr. Biden’s election bid.

On Saturday, Mr. Trump sought to deflect attention from that question by accusing Mr. Biden of acting improperly as vice president in calling for the ouster of a Ukranian prosecutor who had overseen an inquiry into corruption related to the oligarch whose company employed Hunter Biden.

Trump's supporters also wonder whether the Ukrainian dirt that was dished on Manafort in 2016 was put forward as a favor to Team Obama in a bid to hit Trump and boost Hillary.

As to Biden:

No evidence has surfaced to support Mr. Trump’s claim that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor general’s dismissal. But some State Department officials had expressed concern that Hunter Biden’s work in Ukraine could complicate his father’s diplomacy there.

No evidence has emerged, which might be a predictable consequence of a quashed investigation. Then again, proving there is no evidence offers the usual challenge of proving a negative. Fun for everyone!

Well. If the media can take down Trump *and* Biden its a win-win for their most engaged readership/viewership. TBF, it also creates a huge opening in the Sane Center, if there is any viable candidate left to fill it.

Comments

[mike in houston]

Dr J

I played this a lot after my dad passed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNL_wGZgV5Q

"I never will forget him, as he made me what I am..."

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Trending in the right direction! Thanks!

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

The Bee has a winner of a column on the child of the corn today.

Marionette Strings Clearly Visible During Greta Thunberg Testimony

[jimmyk]

Condolences, Dr J.

Melinda, should I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccabe-memo-suggests-rosenstein-was-serious-about-wearing-a-wire-in-the-white-house

[Jack is Back!]

MM,

I am convinced Rod was dirty, a wet finger in the wind. Then DJT confronted him, he denied,and then DJT decided to keep his enemies closer to him than his friends. A guy who has to work with the mob in NYC, can easily sniff out a traitor.

[Melinda]

Yes, but that it happened at all is the shocker. Who was being sent a message? That’s what I am dying to know....

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

I agree. I am convinced that is why the dems feared him, as he had been around their shake-down efforts for years and knew what they were up to.

It's very gratifying to know we were right, and that he was able to spot all of these bad actors.

[Captain Hate]

Deepest sympathy, DrJ.

[Jane]

So sorry Dr.J

[GUS]

I'm so confused. All these white hats and 6d chess.

What happened. We had 2 genius's here who assured me that this was a 6-D operation.

Where'd they go???

[henry]

Sanctions on Iran’s central bank.

@WSJ

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said new sanctions cut off the last remaining source of funds for Iran

[Melinda]

#wasTwoweeks

Still here, still not my game to call.

[anonamom]

My condolences to you and your family, Dr J.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

amom you have mail.

[Melinda]

Clarice & Jane,

I know you all are fans of Sidney Powell, but this letter brings my admiration for skewering poetry or prose, outside of Shakespeare, that I haven’t seen in many years. Enjoy:

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland/status/1176231346915729409?s=21

[Jack is Back!]

The Mad Cap Aventures of Bonzai Biden. Read it. He is one sick MF and has been since his youth, if you ask me.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/22/the-madcap-adventures-of-buckaroo-banzai-biden/

[Jack is Back!]

I want to add, how do these people get by us? Are we that naive that we cannot sort out the BS and lies? It is perplexing to me that we continually believe people like Biden and elect them to public office.

That said, at least Biden is up front one every comment he makes.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960

Nobel secretary regrets Obama Peace Prize.

[Jack is Back!]

Did I just make Biden Trump in the last sentence of my 7:02? But I did.

[Jack is Back!]

That award delegitimized forever for the Nobel.

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

Great Hanson article!

Also, I think the Nobel guy realizes what you said, that it delegitimized it.

[Jane]

Melinda,

You gotta love her.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
33m
94% approval rating in the Republican Party. Thank you!

[D]

DrJ:
I am so sorry for the loss of your father.
Prayers for you and your family.

[MissMarple2]

Since President Trump has a 94% approval rating in the GOP, tell me why any of those losers think they can primary him.

[Another Bob]

Stephanie, the CT tech give you any clues? Had an MRI years ago, and after, I asked the tech what he saw. After telling me he wasn’t allowed to talk about results, he winked at me and gave me a thumbs up.

Jack, MM, the Thomas Cook thing isn’t as bad long term. Various of the operations running under the TC name are quasi-independent. Several of the airlines will be back up and running tomorrow. Still sucks short term as many hotels are refusing TC pax outright.

[MissMarple2]

#UNGA pic.twitter.com/iIZugqjEhP

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 23, 2019

Video at the link.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Mel: "Some goings on back in Detroit that might garner attention. Vote fraud indictments"

This is from 2018, but remember the recount in MI asked by Dr Jill and reputed to have been paid for by Hillary?
As I recall they found some precincts in Detroit with more votes (for Hillary) than registered voters ... and the recount was quietly dropped.

[henry]

@realDonaldTrump

“@FoxNews bombshell information reports that the so-called Whistleblower did not have firsthand knowledge of that phone conversation with Ukraine’s President.” Wow! @HARRISFAULKNER It is all a Democrat/Adam Schiff Scam! Doing this for 3 years now, and found NOTHING!

[D]

MM:
I can’t respond to you anymore because you almost always take what I post the wrong way.
I am tired of watching my words in order not to offend you.
I made sure my son did not get in over his head in terms of government loans even when he was living on his own.
Robin:
Very smart move by your son. He will go far with that kind of motivation and focus.
I also worked a year before going for my Masters in one year.
I worked 3 jobs to pay my expenses.

[D]

JiminSunnyvale:
I remember that recount as well.

[Jack is Back!]

You have to love Trump's constituency. Targeted.

[Captain Hate]

It is perplexing to me that we continually believe people like Biden and elect them to public office.

Nowhere is Failure Theater more pronounced than in Delaware where that dumbass has been an automatic. When the Washington Generals finally had a chance, Rove pulled a giant tantrum because voters preferred COD to his crap candidate, the great Mike Castle, and the state got the bearded Marxist, Chris Coons, to replace the paste eater. That loss was 100% Rove's fault.

[Tonto]

Dr. J -- Just play the music that gives you the most comfort over and over and over.

[Captain Hate]

The loon prosecutor is attaining new levels of delusional paranoia.

[MissMarple2]

I just ran across this site after cleaning up the kitchen. It gives a very enjoyable overview of how the democrats and the deep state creeps have been losing to Trump at every turn.

It will cheer you up, guaranteed!

http://www.gettingtrump.com/

[clarice]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections

[Captain Hate]

When he gets questioned like this, the paste jar is on empty:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1176246133649068032

[MissMarple2]

Stonewall Jackson
@1776Stonewall
·
7m
psychotic Swedish teen climate freak, Greta Thunberg, and 15 other brainwashed children file climate complaints against 5 countries. . . . However, China was not one of them, despite them being responsible for highest percentage of emissions in the world. The kids are just pawns.

[Jack is Back!]

Another have to sign in. Tjppus pad sucks.

Let me say that Bide is a joke. Slaap lekker

[Captain Hate]

Trump 2020: Because Fuck You Again.

[PDinDetroit]

DrJ. - so sorry for your loss. May God provide His peace that passes all understanding.

[Narciso79]

Greta Stromberg or Greta Drax aka the fire starter.

[Buckeye]

The girls spend most of the day on the beach, so instead of going out I prepared our traditional shrimp boil.

Really good when the shrimp were just caught an hour or two ago.

[Another Bob]

“Trump 2020...”

Broken glass CH. Over broken glass.

[anonamom]

steph, no mail in my inbox.

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/trumps_personality_much_better_than_elizabeth_warrens_to_women_voters_focus_group_finds.html

[Narciso79]

Captain tupolev report to the ready room:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/09/23/major-purveyor-russia-hoax-now-pushing-investigation-joe-bidens-influence-peddling/

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Stephanie, the CT tech give you any clues? Had an MRI years ago, and after, I asked the tech what he saw. After telling me he wasn’t allowed to talk about results, he winked at me and gave me a thumbs up.

NO they didn't but I got an email from the doc that there were 'abnormalities' and she would discuss them at the Wednesday appointment. The email did include the results might as well put em out for all to see.

Lower Thorax: Trace left pleural effusion. Left lower lobe atelectasis and/or
scarring.

Liver: Diffuse hepatic steatosis. Hepatomegaly measures 21.8 cm maximal
craniocaudal dimension.

Gallbladder/Biliary Tree: Normal.

Spleen: Normal.

Pancreas: Normal.

Adrenal Glands: Normal.

Kidneys/Ureters: No hydronephrosis or hydroureter on either side. Evidence of
ectopic insertion of the right ureter on the bladder dome likely postsurgical.
No definite radiopaque upper urinary tract stones in the collecting systems or
along the course of the ureters.

Gastrointestinal: Incomplete gastric distention limits evaluation. No evidence
of bowel obstruction. Normal appendix.

Bladder: See above for details regarding right ureterovesicular junction.
Incomplete urinary bladder distention limits its evaluation. No definite
intraluminal radiopaque stones.

Uterus/Adnexa: Absent uterus. No large adnexal mass.

Lymph Nodes: Normal.

Vessels: Abdominal aortic atherosclerosis without aneurysm.

Could all be related to insulin resistance or could be cancer I guess. I googled all the terms.

I did have a bad inhalation of some Diet Dr Pepper a few months ago that I thought I was going to have to call 911 and figure out how to tell them I was choking on liquid but I finally spit it all over my laptop. I guess not getting it all out could spiral to a lung infection...

They did diagnosis strep in my UT, so that could have spread. Lots of possibilities.

Just loved the hey it's abnormal let's talk at Wednesday appointment, though. Nothing like an email like that full of med terms to get the BP to skyrocket. Just dayum.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Sent it again amom. Thanks!

[Narciso79]

I was watching a rerun of the season finale of ncis la (which had a little fan service, to the original precursor jag) and its striking how the plot had a missile attack in part tatgeted on the kingdom, launched from iraq (although the islamic state is responsible) now four months later, we're in the attermath of such a scenario

[Narciso79]

Indeed its like when i was flagged years ago witu e coli (note to self, dont schedule a blood test near your birthday

[Narciso79]

I was reminded because of this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-saudis-look-for-iran-link-in-weapon-systems-11569171598

[Captain Hate]

Btw I got my last update from Mrs KK stating he's coming home today and is doing very very well. It was nice of her to send those dispatches to at least some strangers but honestly having tasks like that breaks up the unrelieved worrying and surely has a beneficial component of doing something good.

[Captain Hate]

Same here, AB...

[Captain Hate]

Maybe Iowa wants to amend its Constitution:

https://newrepublic.com/article/155138/kamala-harris-moving-iowa

[Narciso79]

Thats a terrifying enail, even i hadnt watched enough House to realixe what they are talking about.

[Buckeye]

I'm with you guys too.

I wouldn't let any of the Dem misfits walk my dog.

[Narciso79]

Oh that allen ho character got one year of supervised relief in addition to his two years, for violating the atomic energy act shirley.

[Narciso79]

So this oligarch was berezovsky big,

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/onyshchenko-releases-alleged-recording-implicating-poroshenko-zlochevsky-graft.html

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

Here's MY focus group. All women in their late 60's or early 70's. There are 6.

Two are long-time democrats, watchers of MSNBC or CNN, and loathe Trum no matter what.

The other four LOVE him, think he's funny, cheer when he goes after the democrats, and are not bothered a bit by his language.

Myself, I find him charming, considerate of the average people who cross his path (military and relatives, children, construction workers, ICE and Border Patrol, farmers, etc.), and seems to be well-liked by world leaders like Morrison and Modi. (He even got a chuckle from the Pakistani PM today.)

I think this "boorish" persona was created by the dems from their watching The Apprentice and reading the tabloids. They also think he is stupid. Neither are true.

[Narciso79]

These writers at bloomberg and company they dont even check the links that lead from wikipedia

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/reform-watch/prosecutors-put-zlochevsky-multimillionaire-ex-ecology-minister-on-wanted-list-377719.html?cn-reloaded=1

[Narciso79]

Took me five minutes to find out they are full of (redacted)
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/396015.html

[clarice]

Gee, stephanie..You look good though so there's that.

[D]

Steph:
Good thoughts and best wishes for the Wednesday.
Will be praying for a good result.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/p5imhMJqS1

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2019

Romney will learn to keep his mouth shut. Trump destroys him with the video at the link. HA!

[Narciso79]

They should make it very simple, schedule an appointment, to address areas of concern, dont freak me the hell out.

Btw that last decision in the interfax link was reversed by a superior court in june.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

After reading that VDH essay on Shurff Joe, where he equates him with Walter Mitty, it's pretty hard for me not to think of him as Biden Munchausen from now on.
There's no heroic tale too tall for him to star in. If he wasn't in politics he'd be in a conservancy.

[Narciso79]

I would say emilio bideno, i dont know if hes been through the 4th dimension.

[Captain Hate]

I watched that video multiple times. I might bookmark it for when I need a good reminder of things sometimes aren't always as bad as they seem.

[Narciso79]

Wait what?

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/court-reinstates-case-against-mykola-zlochevsky.html

[The Infamous Ignatz]

I cannot begin to keep track of these various Russian and Ukrainian crooks, spies, billionaires, politicians and oligarchs.
Is there a good guy among them anywhere?

[Narciso79]

Probably the guy they are throwing shade on, the point is they are selling us a truckload of manure again. This is joe wilson 'no yelloecake' all over again.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Who is it who "exonerated Biden and son?
Peter Strozk, Andrew McCabe, James Comey and Loretta Lynch?

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Gee Clarice, Thanks! They said the same at Whitey Bulgers funeral... ;)

They should make it very simple, schedule an appointment, to address areas of concern, dont freak me the hell out.

How bout 'I have received your results and I will see you on Wednesday.' Finis, no crap a layperson can't follow and will google and go all hair on fire.

[Narciso79]

That was my feeling.

[D]

Iggy:
Your comments on Joe Biden are spot on.
WRT the other post, I have never watched a
Star Trek episode.

[Buckeye]

Hard to believe a bunch of kids from Oslo doing Bluegrass this well.

Released yesterday.

https://youtu.be/iMbbTQrC41o

[clarice]

I;m having minor surgery tomorrow. If you never hear from me again, you'll know I'm gone. If I'm still alive I'll check in later tomorrow afternoon.

[jimmyk]

All the best, Clarice.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Best wishes, Clarice.

[Narciso79]

Best wishes clarice.

[D]

They are eviscerating Biden on Hannity.
Giuliani is en Diego!

[D]

Should be en fuego

[D]

Good luck Clarice!

[boris]

Or San Fuego

[Narciso79]

Oh thats not what we were told:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NSCAfghan/status/1176212078069276677

[Jane]

Clarice,

If you don’t come back, i’ll Kill you!1

Best of luck tomorrow!
9hope I don’t get arrested for my joke)

[clarice]

Thanks.

Jane, that's inspirational!

[D]

Boris:
Good to see you.

[Narciso79]

Before
https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1176266758996426753/photo/2

[Buckeye]

After Jane's post, what can I say:)

Hope everything goes well tomorrow Clarice.

[Catsmeat]

Dr.J--my condolences to you and your family. Hard!

Clarice, you'll be fine, you too Steph.

Dippi Longstocking's face as her press conference at the UN was interrupted by Trump coming in, like the boss he is, was priceless--rage and hate. Poor pathetic child.

[Another Bob]

“Dippi Longstocking”

LOLOLOLOL!

[Narciso79]

Hah thats the best one yet, catsmeat.

I dubbed her initially firestarter,

[Captain Hate]

Dippi Longstocking

LOL. Perfect.

Best wishes, clarice.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--WRT the other post, I have never watched a
Star Trek episode.--

Oh my. You have lived a sheltered life.
Here's my recommendation Maryrose;
Find the episodes, I, Mudd, The Trouble With Tribbles, This Side of Paradise and, my personal favorite, A Piece of the Action.
You'll enjoy them AND be in on more pop culture references. A twofer.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

In a better world Greta Thunberg's parents/guardians/doctors etc would be charged with child abuse.
And the UN, ecofreak and Dem creeps using this poor disturbed child for their authoritarian political purposes would be horse whipped.

[Narciso79]

Ive also referenced the gamesters of triskelion , but i never liked that one, thats where the ahock collars come from, that i suggesr to motivate enefell players