Valerie Plame is back in the news and drawing a downbeat Fact Check from Glenn Kessler of the WaPo.
Old times! In fact, I feel like a recovering alcoholic holding a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue. But let me see if I can stop at two:
First, as CIA Acting General Counsel John Rizzo eventually claimed in his 2014 book, and as Bob Woodward, Andrea Mitchell and Dana Priest had reported years earlier, Plame's "outing" was just not that big a deal in terms of national security or personal danger. A Rizzo excerpt:
Secondly, what drove this investigation? Why did Special Counsel Fitzgerald look so hard at the White House yet ignore the obvious, easily detected, unconfessed leaking from Armitage (and probably Powell, and others) from State?
I say it was a mini-Deep State Coup. Democrats allied with moderate Republicans such as Comey in a DoJ revolt intended to pare back or eliminate Dick Cheney. Fitzgerald's team took it in when Richard Armitage of State admitted he leaked to Novak. It took the sleuths at the AP to obtain Armitage's appointment calendar for June 2003 and see a meeting with Woodward. Pretty heavy investigative work!
As a recap, Cheney's man at Doj, John Yoo, left the Office of Legal Counsel in June 2003 and was replaced by Jack Goldsmith. Goldsmith withdrew the OLC opinion backing enhanced interrogation and put the warrantless surveillance program under a microscope. By December the DoJ was in something like a revolt over Cheny's handling of that, which culminated in the famous Comey/Ashcroft/Card hospital room showdown in March 2004.
And during all this, the DoJ decides (Oct 2003) to take the Plame referral seriously and actually investigate the leak Rizzo laughed off. By December, Comey was appointing Fitzgerald as a Special Counsel. The target was Cheney, not Bush, not Rove and most assuredly not "the truth" about who leaked what.
BONUS (But I can quit anytime): Why did Armitage leak at all? Surely it wasn't to punish Wilson? No, it wasn't, and stop calling me Shirley. In the summer of 2003 a dispute raged about who had said what and when about Saddam's WMDs and nuclear aspirations. The gist of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate had been made public. The CIA (with other intel groups) came down on the side of "Definitely maybe" as to whether Iraq was a nuclear threat. The State Department's INR had dissented, but that was lost in a footnote. Prophets without honor!
So when the dispute raged in June 2003 Armitage discussed with his old pals Novak and Woodward that tidbit about the CIA research effort - the CIA had cobbled together a trip to Niger that was never to going to be conclusive, sent off some retired ambassador (sponsored by his wife!) and come back with an inconclusive report. Did Armitage describe the CIA effort with the phrase "clown show"? We can only hope. But the mention of the wife's role was not meant as punishment; it was meant as a punchline.
JUST SAY NO: Don't get me started on the Tim Russert/Andrea Mitchell / David Gregory cover-up. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer testifed he leaked to reporters John Dickerson and David Gregory of NBC News, Tim Russert's underling. OK, it was Fleischer's last week on the job, he had a lot going on and he might have been wrong (Dickerson says he was, about him anyway) but... IF he leaked to Gregory there was time for Gregory to mention this to Russert, who might have then tried to confirm it in a call with Libby.
Since Libby was charged with lying about his chat with Russert (Libby said Russert mentioned WIlson's wife, Russert denied it), we can be sure that Relentless Truth Seeker Fitzgerald interviewed Gregory and nailed down his story, right?
Wrong. Dickerson says he was never formally questioned. As best I know, Gregory has never denied Fleischer's version. In retrospect, this transcript of a post-indictment Russert program reads like a hostage video, with everyone locking in their cover story. Here is Gregory:
GREGORY: And it is interesting--it's also interesting, I should just point out, that nobody called me at any point, which is unfortunately...
WILLIAMS: Apparently not.
GREGORY: ...not the point.
RUSSERT: Does anybody ever?
GREGORY: But I just wanted to note that.
RUSSERT: I've been meaning to talk to you about that.
Nobody called him, har de har. But of course, Fleiacher's testimony was that their chat was face to face, not a phone call.
But no follow-up, again, as best I know.
I MEAN IT NOW: I am completely confident that you have seen this idea no where else, and lucky you: the issue of Valerie Plame's "covert" status hinges on the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The gist: she would need both classified status (check) and "service abroad" in the prior five years (Fog!).
So - is "service abroad" a quick trip overseas, or a formal posting? Unlitigated! However, Ms. Plame's pension benefit gets an upward adjustment for her "overseas service" spanning "six years, one month and 29 days".
So the CIA service record certainly tracks their notion of overseas service. Was the last date within five years of her outing? We don't know, in part because Special Counsel Fitzgerald chose to hide that factoid. And why would he hide it? Hard to see including a comment on her final date of overseas service as hurting either national security or his case, especially since he offered as a substitute the assurance she had flown overseas to Jordan on CIA business within the past five years.
It makes me think that the final overseas service date for which she got credit was outside the five year time frame. One more thing we won't know, unless someone wants to ask Candidate Plame. (She'll cite national security and duck it, but try anyway!)
Aha, 3rd time's the charm. Except for Plame. Even the frog she married recoiled from that kiss.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:14 PM
Uniparty scum. Who paid Armitage etc?
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:19 PM
And the Journolist early warning system came out of needing to conspire off air... instead of fumble around on air in their guilt.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:28 PM
William Happer also left the NSC, yesterday.
https://earther.gizmodo.com/trump-adviser-who-lamented-demonization-of-carbon-dioxi-1838041167
The IPCC FanBois are gleeful.
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 01:29 PM
So does Ivanka get credit for this?
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:34 PM
I suspect a different angle of attack may be in the offing.
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 01:40 PM
Just out of curiosity is one of these the official thread we're supposed to comment on or is it musical threads?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 11, 2019 at 01:40 PM
Ig, TM is updating this thread with new info. eg the bit about overseas service (in the fog), and Fitz putting a deep state pillow over the truth of it.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:43 PM
LOL:
Darren Rovell @darrenrovell
JUST IN: The US Patent & Trademark Office has issued an initial decision on Ohio State's attempt to trademark the word "THE." They have refused the application.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:44 PM
“John is somebody that I actually get along with very well. He made some very big mistakes when he talked about the Libyan model for Kim Jong Un. That was not a good statement to make. You just take a look at what happened with Gaddafi. That was not a good statement to make. And it set us back. And frankly he wanted to do things - not necessarily tougher than me. John’s known as a tough guy. He’s so tough he got us into Iraq. That’s tough. But he’s somebody that I actually had a very good relationship with, but he wasn’t getting along with people in the administration who I consider very important. I hope we’ve left in good standing, maybe we have and maybe we haven’t. I have to run the country the way we’re running the country.”
"And you know John wasn’t in line with what we were doing. And actually in some cases he thought it was too tough. What we were doing. Mr. Tough Guy.”
“And I don’t say it was his decision, you had the president and you had other people also, but he was very out there I can tell you and wanting to have them to it and I disagreed with that decision from the beginning, even though I was civilian so nobody cared. But I was out there, I was outspoken about it, I thought it was a terrible mistake.”
“Well I have five people that want it very much. A lot more than that would like to have it. But there are five people I consider very highly qualified, good people I’ve gotten to know over the last three years and we’ll be announcing somebody next week, but we have some very highly qualified people. But we were set back very badly when John Bolton talked about the Libyan model. And he made a mistake and as soon as he mentioned that - the Libyan model - what a disaster …. And he’s using that to make a deal with North Korea? And I don’t blame Kim Jong Un for what he said after that. And he wanted nothing to do with John Bolton. And that’s not a question of being tough, that’s a question of being not smart saying something like that.”
“So I wish John the best … I’m sure he’ll do whatever he can do to spin it his way. John came to see me the night before … and he sat right in that chair and I told him John, there are too many people, you’re not getting along with people. And a lot of us, including me, disagree with some of your tactics and some of your ideas. And I wish you well, but I’d like you to submit your resignation and he did that.”
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 11, 2019 at 01:45 PM
I am getting ready to go to the grocery. Alas, it's Kroger, because I refuse to shop at Walmart and on this side of town there are no other choices.
Maybe by the time I get back TM will have the final thread up.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 01:46 PM
Not going to give them a click, but Breitbart points out that the NYT takes Omar's "Some people" and shows her exactly how you do "Some THing" properly, PC style:
https://twitter.com/ATX_PATRIOT/status/1171806346603220993
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 01:50 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/09/11/9-11-victims-son-blasts-omar-at-ground-zero-memorial-service/
Includes video!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 01:53 PM
from prior thread--anonamom, of course we don't know everything yet, but everything I saw about the vape illnesses indicate they were blackmarket vapes bought off the street or vape formulas adulterated by the users.
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 01:55 PM
Ald. Ed Burke Biz Model plods along....https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2019/9/11/20860671/anne-burke-chief-justice-illinois-supreme-court
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 01:55 PM
Where are Illinois' banana plantations?
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 01:58 PM
Wow, Melinda. Burke being Chief seems to go even beyond our standard Illinois practices.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | September 11, 2019 at 02:05 PM
CNBC Now @CNBCnow
1m
BREAKING: T. Boone Pickens, the ‘Oracle of Oil,’ corporate raider and billionaire philanthropist, dies at 91
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 02:11 PM
This is not at all surprising:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-testimony-reveals-obama-ag-urged-prosecution-of-pro-life-investigators-daleiden-and-merritt
Seems like a crystal clear case of abuse of power on the part of former AG Lynch, and former CA AG Harris.
It'd be nice to see our current AG actually get off his ass and do something about it.
Posted by: James D. | September 11, 2019 at 02:20 PM
“It’s her turn.”
Biz as usual, of course.
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 02:27 PM
Brian restates the obvious:
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1171801119254884352?s=21
Posted by: Melinda | September 11, 2019 at 02:33 PM
From Kessler's column:
I don't remember that detail, does anybody else? It's certainly vague enough to sound like a touch of ass-covering either by or for Colin "Mr. Clean" Powell. I thought Armitage had admitted his guilt to Powell and that they had jointly decided that President Bush was not on their "need to know" list.All in all, Kessler's summary was better than I expected, but I thought this was totally disingenuous:
It smacks of the disclaimers that liberals feel virtually compelled to add whenever they have anything decent to say about Republicans, or a Republican President. In this case it gets Kessler off the hook for the four Pinocchios he would otherwise be forced to give the darling of leftist fantasies.Posted by: JM Hanes | September 11, 2019 at 02:35 PM
I think you're saying my point about AI was overly obvious but I'm not sure because you're being underly obvious. :)
No, it was a good point, Iggy - so was the one last night, where you reminded me that liberals have no problem embracing neocons these days. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. ;-)
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 11, 2019 at 02:38 PM
Hmmmm. this will screw up a few business models.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 02:43 PM
CNBC Now @CNBCnow
4m
JUST IN: California assembly passes landmark bill requiring contract workers to be classified as employees; bill now heads to Governor Newsom's desk.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 02:43 PM
Microsoft is so sciency: (thread)
Lukas Schlögl
@LukasSchlogl
Just priceless. An estimated 20% of genetic research papers contain errors because Excel converted some gene names into calendar dates.
https://twitter.com/LukasSchlogl/status/1170194419049365504
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 02:45 PM
henry, that should lead to an ever bigger exodus from the state.
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 02:46 PM
henry, I know that bill is largely targeted towards companies like uber etc.
But does it apply to all companies, and what does it mean exactly that contractors must be classified as employees?
If it means that contractors/temps must be TREATED like full time employees, given the same benefits, etc, I can see three results that seem inevitable:
First, companies will, where possible, cease hiring temps and replace that labor with automation, or by forcing the full time employees to do more work for the same pay.
Second, companies that can't do the above will cut the benefits that employees receive, if they have to pay those benefits to temps as well.
Third, companies that can't do either of the above will go out of business.
Which means: workers will not benefit (either losing jobs, or being forced to do more work for the same pay). Companies will not benefit (labor costs, and compliance costs will rise). Consumers will not benefit (as companies go out of business, there will be less choices for them, and less tax money coming from them).
The only people who will benefit will be the CA government bureaucrats. Which I suppose is the whole point of the exercise. As usual.
Posted by: James D. | September 11, 2019 at 02:52 PM
"gig employees" includes musicians, bands, actors, etc. right?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 02:52 PM
TK:
I always liked John Bolton's outspokenness, but I gave up on any hope of him accomplishing anything when he that jaw-droppingly stupid remark about the Qaddafi model. In addition to being the one thing that would send Kim's paranoia sky-rocketlng, the timing could not possibly have been worse. There's no way Kim would ever truly trust President Trump enough to negotiate in good faith, if Trump didn't disavow him in a convincing way. I'm also trying to remember any former co-workers who have ever had good things to say about him. I originally heard that Bolton was on the outs with the Prez over Afghanistan, which I didn't really get, but this makes perfect sense.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 11, 2019 at 02:54 PM
henry - A similar problem with .pdb (Program Database) files being left behind by Visual Studio for debugging being sometimes mistaken as the much older file format Protein Data Bank, using the same file extension.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | September 11, 2019 at 02:56 PM
Wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein was seen getting off his private plane in the U.S. Virgin Islands by an air traffic controller with girls who appeared to be 11 to 12 years old in 2018.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/11/jeffrey-epstein-seen-with-young-girls-getting-off-his-plane-in-2018.html?
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 02:59 PM
James d--they accelerate what they've been doing--move HQs to Az or Nevada.
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 03:12 PM
So, I am forced to go to the literature. You can read it too!
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1911614
Patients reported using 14 distinct brands of THC products and 13 brands of nicotine products in a wide range of flavors. The most common THC product that was reported was marketed under the “Dank Vape” label (reported by 24 of 41 interviewed patients [59%]).
Majority of patients used brand name THC product, not black market.
As noted above, many chemical constituents that have been detected in e-cigarette liquids could cause acute and subacute effects. These constituents may also undergo thermal decomposition (pyrolysis) by the metallic e-cigarette heating coils to produce new compounds in aerosol with different toxicologic profiles.28,29 The coils may also release metals such as manganese and zinc into the aerosol, which can be toxic when inhaled.30 Alone or in combination, these substances could result in a variety of pulmonary illnesses such as chemical pneumonitis, acute eosinophilic pneumonia, acute and subacute hypersensitivity pneumonitis, lipoid pneumonia, metal fume fever, and polymer fume fever. Acute lung injury and ARDS could result in severe cases.
Posted by: anonamom | September 11, 2019 at 03:13 PM
James D. | September 11, 2019 at 02:52 PM
How far does this go before the “moneyed interests” in Cali say “enough”?
Posted by: Another Bob | September 11, 2019 at 03:15 PM
https://reason.com/2019/09/09/study-finds-that-the-vast-majority-of-respiratory-diseases-in-vapers-are-linked-to-illegal-thc-products/
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 03:19 PM
From the Reason article:The new study, reported Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, focused on 53 patients who had vaped within 90 days of their symptoms, typically within the previous week. Their median age was 19, and nearly a third were younger than 18. Among the 41 patients who were "extensively interviewed," 80 percent reported using THC products, 7 percent mentioned CBD products, and 17 percent said they had vaped nicotine only. The authors note that "information on product use is based on reports by the patients, and patients may be reluctant to report illicit drug use."
The description of the vapes used by the patients indicates that most were black-market products represented as containing cannabis extracts. "Patients reported using 14 distinct brands of THC products and 13 brands of nicotine products in a wide range of flavors," the researchers say. "The most common THC product that was reported was marketed under the 'Dank Vape' label (reported by 24 of 41 interviewed patients [59%]). Patients reported use of a number of different e-cigarette devices to aerosolize these products."
It's not clear whether any of the products in the THC-only cases were closed-system devices such as Juul, as opposed to refillable vaporizers. Nor is it clear whether the cartridges or e-liquids used in the devices were legally produced, illegal knockoffs, DIY solutions, or mystery fluids concocted by third-party suppliers.
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 03:20 PM
Heh.
"DoJ: Dog ate my notes….."
https://www.independentsentinel.com/doj-lost-their-own-notes-wont-turn-over-evidence-in-flynn-case/
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 03:26 PM
anonamon, definitely better to just light up the doobies the old fashioned way, amirite?
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 11, 2019 at 03:27 PM
I'll bet those Flynn notes are sitting on a little side table in Peter Strock's house.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 11, 2019 at 03:29 PM
The 9-11 troother loons are out in full force on Twitter today.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | September 11, 2019 at 03:30 PM
I'm lucky to be able to have time to walk these days, so I'm listening to more podcasts.
The PowerLine blog talk with Heather macDonald is awesome. I won't post a link ... it's like 2 hours long. But wow, if you get the chance to hear it you'll learn a lot!
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 03:31 PM
So condi goes on camelbert show, did she bring a hazmat.
Posted by: Narciso79 | September 11, 2019 at 03:37 PM
Just a reminder: Today we fly our flags at half-mast, because "some people did something."
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 03:42 PM
Back from Kroger, and everything put away.
Boy, I get a mental workout figuring out which is a better buy: 2 All pod packages of 16 with a free package of 70 Snuggle dryer sheets or 2 packages of Tide pods of 18 at 3.99 each with 1.00 off coupons on each.
Multiply that by paper towels, toilet tissue, dog food, etc. and by the time I am at check out my brain hurts. On top of that, my daughter was with me so we had to detour for her stuff (which she paid for).
It is HOT. 90 degrees here. I am ready for some cooler temperatures.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 03:48 PM
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/09/11/npr-reporter-pays-tribute-to-the-late-t-boone-pickens-by-trying-to-get-him-canceled-over-donations-to-republicans/
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 03:53 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/pace-of-border-wall-construction-doubled-work-on-private-land-begins
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 03:55 PM
I can't keep with all the new terminology. "Cancelled" means what? Disrespected? Villified?
Posted by: jimmyk | September 11, 2019 at 03:59 PM
I guess the third time's the charm on this blog post. Keeps getting longer and longer--and more interesting.
Bolton is gone, but boy are they going to say lots of good things about him in the New York Times and the Washington Post. Of course a few weeks ago they worried about Bolton the Warmonger & The Face of Evil and all, but that was then and this is now.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | September 11, 2019 at 04:03 PM
Yeah, I was going to ask jimmyk's question.
I assume you're banned from FB or Twitter.
But can you cancel a dead person?
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 04:04 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-the-eu-wants-a-superstate-just-as-hitler-did/
Good job, Boris! That should get the Remainers' heads exploding!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 04:05 PM
T. Boone predicted we would end up a net oil exporter before anyone else. But what made me and other Vietnam era vets smile the most was his challenge to Kerry to put up or shut up in which Kerry refused to supply the documentation required which would include ALL copies of his 214 including the reported one that showed a "Misconduct Discharge" that Carter later changed to "Honorable"
We have two Swift Boat vet's here and they both say Kerry was a disingenuous, nose in the air, egalitarian, who would lie to prove a point which everyone else would look at as BS.
RIP Boone Pickens even if you thought Wind would be the new sexy thing:)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 04:08 PM
JimSunnyvale,
I missed your post. What do you mean you can't walk? More info, please. If not, best of luck dealing with it. Prayers included.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 04:20 PM
Sorry, JiB, my health is excellent :)
I have lots of walking time, which I love! (I'm retired)
And I'm listening to lots of podcasts, not just music.
PLBlog has a terrific podcast up with Heather MacDonald.
It's great! So informative!
But 2 hours long, so other than me who has time to listen to it?
That's my intended gist and sorry to alarm anyone.
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 04:34 PM
the BEST article on John F'n Kerry and his military records (from 2011).
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_109691?guccounter=1
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 04:40 PM
Hey TM, you can get a Vuvuzela!
@yalemenssoccer
🎺 VUVUZELA GIVEAWAY 🎺
The first 75 fans to arrive tonight at Reese Stadium will receive a vuvuzela to cheer us on! Oh anddd FREE FOOD for all students in attendance! #12thMan #ThisIsYale
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 04:45 PM
Sydney Powell using the Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse strategy of mass annihilation of prosecutors complaint.
https://www.scribd.com/document/425448644/Flynn-Motion-to-Show-Cause-and-Compel
Independent reports keep saying Judge Sullivan is smiling when Sydney makes her statements.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 04:51 PM
This:
Nor is it clear whether the cartridges or e-liquids used in the devices were legally produced, illegal knockoffs, DIY solutions, or mystery fluids concocted by third-party suppliers.
contradicts this, which has no basis whatsoever from the NEJM article to my reading:
The description of the vapes used by the patients indicates that most were black-market products represented as containing cannabis extracts.
Both sentences are in the reason article clarice posted above.
If you put dank vape in at Amazon, you get plenty of products:
https://www.amazon.com/dank-vapes/s?k=dank+vapes
****
The Ground Zero ceremony is so beautiful. Simple and perfect. Thank you Fox for such extensive coverage.
Posted by: anonamom | September 11, 2019 at 04:56 PM
Interesting posts on Sasse by President Trump which recognizes the true conservative that he is.
He votes the correct way.
Bolton is a good man.
I don’t believe in trashing someone once our President determines they are no longer useful to him in his administration.
There is a tendency to do that on this blog.
As for Romney.
All I can say is he occupies a lot of head space in many of the posters here.
He only has one vote in the Senate and what he says doesn’t carry much weight with the general public.
Rand Paul was very impressive today on Fox during their 9/11 coverage.
I like him for 2024.
Love the topic of this thread.
I give Plame. 10 percent chance of winning her election.
Agree with TM’s summary of the situation.
Still remember the media dismay when Cheney refused to come and testify.
Posted by: D | September 11, 2019 at 04:59 PM
Cancelled is what happened to Roseanne, Garrison Keillor, that young man in the DOJ or State Department recently, whose sarcastic FB post was used to accuse him of antisemitism, and he lost his job. (He's since been rehired.)
May be more specifically related when old stuff is dug up and used to that to somebody.
Posted by: anonamom | September 11, 2019 at 05:00 PM
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 05:08 PM
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 05:09 PM
Third try.
Check out the union statement in this PL piece.
https://tinyurl.com/y5z54fbb
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 05:11 PM
This thread lists all of the Motion to Compel items which Flynn's attorney has requested.
https://twitter.com/hereforthejava/status/1171871768643956736
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 05:15 PM
Funny stuff Jim,Sunnyvale!
As far as the Oregon unions, now that I understand the stupid user interface (hint, vegetables don’t have bar codes) I am delighted to not talk to cashiers. The “do you want to sign up for a loyalty card?” crap is a single button [ima pay cash], and my life is not diminished in any way by skipping that drivel.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 05:18 PM
An interesting snip from the book Oxygen by Nick Sand. A long time ago, continents clustered near the equator so this did not occur, but with land masses both north and south of the equator, we have a built-in CO2 feedback control system.
"Rock can be eroded by dissolved carbon dioxide, which is weakly acidic. As a result of this reaction, CO2 is lost from the air and becomes petrified in carbonates.
But when glaciers form over land, the underlying rock becomes insulated from the air by the thick layer of ice."
(thus, CO2 increases, the Earth warms, the glaciers retreat, land is exposed, CO2 decreases, the Earth cools, glaciers advance ... and we have a cycle).
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 05:19 PM
Wrapped and easier-to-read version of the thread I linked in 5:15.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1171871768643956736.html
This is the list of all of the Motion to Compel items which Flynn's attorney has requested.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 05:19 PM
I'm still mystified by how long it's taking to get a sentence pronounced for Gen Flynn.
Hopefully the whole thing is rolled back now!
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 11, 2019 at 05:21 PM
D:
"I don’t believe in trashing someone once our President determines they are no longer useful to him in his administration. There is a tendency to do that on this blog."
I hope you weren't directing that complaint at me; perhaps I've missed some other conversation on this subject in an earlier thread. As it should be clear from my comment above, I gave up on Bolton before Trump asked him to resign. It's not like I spend my time here endorsing every move the President makes. I think I explained my reasoning pretty clearly.
Ditto for my criticisms of Romney, which I believe have been well earned. I fought for him in 2012, but I think he developed a serious case of Trump derangement syndrome. And as far as I know, he has yet to push any of the transformative legislation that Republicans have been promising us for so long. Perhaps he only makes the news for legislation aimed at tying the President in knots. It might go a long way to mitigating the contempt I have developed for the man, if you could point to any reform-minded proposals he's been offering in the Senate. Something other than raising money, which helps but doesn't automatically cure all ills.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 11, 2019 at 05:22 PM
So condi goes on camelbert show, did she bring a hazmat.
She'll fit in well and probably trash DJT.
Good riddance to Pickens; better than Lurch for sure but otherwise as trustworthy as McCain or Romney.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 11, 2019 at 05:23 PM
Well she said something about how we cant a abandon afghan women or aomething.
Posted by: Narciso79 | September 11, 2019 at 05:25 PM
Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA,
Could it be that the judge has been delaying because he was suspicious of the prosecutors and hoped that Flynn would get a clue to switch attorneys?
That's all I can think of.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 05:30 PM
As mark steyn points out, the process is the punishment.
Posted by: Narciso79 | September 11, 2019 at 05:30 PM
Well she said something about how we cant a abandon afghan women or aomething.
Always with her priorities straight. Augusta National really chose well with her and Goodell. Maybe Condi will bring Strobe Talbot on to see if he can drink water while she discusses foreign policy. The clapping seals should be happy.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 11, 2019 at 05:33 PM
LOL. One of the attorney's for Flynn in that motion to compel is resident/office in The Villages, FL. I wonder what his golf cart looks like, a courtroom replica?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 05:35 PM
Video at link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 05:36 PM
Jim:
"DoJ: Dog ate my notes….."
Didn't that dog eat some notes FBI notes in the Plame case too? I'd have said that dog is too old to hunt any more, if it were anywhere but DC.
If I believed in Special Counsels, as much as I believe in the curative potential of irony, I'd appoint one to investigate James Comey.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 11, 2019 at 05:37 PM
Eickenrode, dont know if it was a terrier or a chihuahua at fault.
Posted by: Narciso79 | September 11, 2019 at 05:40 PM
Speaking of Plame, the MFM was certainly more gleeful at the preliminary steps of the Palin's divorce than the dissolution of the match in Hell between deskbound Mata Hari and Sumo Wilson. I hope plucky Val can afford some female support garments in the settlement.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 11, 2019 at 05:43 PM
Video at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 05:56 PM
I haven't figured out why twitter videos don't play for me.
What did Condi say?
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 11, 2019 at 05:58 PM
Thank you Miss M. Condi nailed it!
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 06:00 PM
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 11, 2019 at 06:01 PM
Video at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:02 PM
T,
See if the video here works:
https://twitter.com/kjdrennen/status/1171783594467110912
It's at the top of the thread.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:05 PM
Rice surprised me with that answer. I'm glad to have been wrong.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 11, 2019 at 06:07 PM
I understand Condi was fabulous.Re4fused to take the bait to slam Trump.
I'm with you , JMH.
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 06:09 PM
More on Dank Vapes:https://www.inverse.com/article/58581-dank-vapes
Posted by: clarice | September 11, 2019 at 06:10 PM
Link goes to Miami Herald article.
Is this guy GOP or dem?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:10 PM
She'll fit in well and probably trash DJT.
She did a great job of shutting Savannah Guthrie down today when Savannah wanted her to say the Russians elected DJT.
I would actually say she defended him--and his voters.
Start at 7:14
https://www.today.com/video/condoleezza-rice-remembers-9-11-on-18th-anniversary-68656197875
Posted by: anonamom | September 11, 2019 at 06:10 PM
No need to go offshore now. Save the political bullets for when it is needed.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | September 11, 2019 at 06:18 PM
Brian Mast is a RINO (CR rating 52) who doesn't list his party affiliation in his House bio.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 11, 2019 at 06:18 PM
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/radio-wave-bubbles-milky-way-black-hole
Posted by: jim nj | September 11, 2019 at 06:19 PM
Miss M, GOP or Dem? Swamp.
Posted by: henry | September 11, 2019 at 06:20 PM
Great news, nappers!
https://www.foxnews.com/health/napping-heart-health-study
Posted by: anonamom | September 11, 2019 at 06:20 PM
This only aired once. Video at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:27 PM
CH, re: Pickens, according to Hoyle you have to wait three days before saying "Good riddance" about the newly-deceased. You are permitted, though, to say "I shall issue my epitaph in three days", which seems to sort of tip one's hand.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 11, 2019 at 06:31 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/51632/study-finds-media-losing-fake-news-war-badly-james-barrett
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:37 PM
Jennifer Franco
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Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 11, 2019 at 06:39 PM
--Boy, I get a mental workout figuring out which is a better buy: 2 All pod packages of 16 with a free package of 70 Snuggle dryer sheets or 2 packages of Tide pods of 18 at 3.99 each with 1.00 off coupons on each.--
Depends on whether you're using them as appetizer, entree or dessert, no?
I reckon they are keto friendly though.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 11, 2019 at 06:47 PM