Here we go with the story and complaint.
I'll say this - with these document dumps Trump is clearly teeing up a "You're Damn Right I Ordered The Code Red" defense. It's a longshot but I could consider backing him for Royal President Showman for Life if Trump comes out and says "Deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you WANT me to build that wall. You NEED me to build that wall."
A man can dream.
Stephanie says no way she can get into this comment thread,TM
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 11:31 AM
Testing to see if I can get in.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 11:39 AM
Works for me.
Posted by: Buckeye | September 26, 2019 at 11:41 AM
I see no such evidence that would suggest any sort of queer defense like that, TM.
CH posted a comment from Jerryskids, on Patterico's used tampon of a website, that wonderfully expressed how we got Trump. Jerryskids had a follow up:
Frankly, TM, I don't know what the fuck you are rooting for.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM
I see no such evidence that would suggest any sort of queer defense like that, TM.
CH posted a comment from Jerryskids, on Patterico's used tampon of a website, that wonderfully expressed how we got Trump. Jerryskids had a follow up:
Frankly, TM, I don't know what the fuck you are rooting for.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/25/coulter-trump-mount-rushmore/?fbclid=IwAR0emR_ojVN6BpZgh_yTj-Z_1p6VOpck7Zu1-CqG2mHRF2YcXBXrKVpM-DY
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM
TM,
I want to know who can follow the Best President in My Lifetime!
Melinda and Jane and I think he has had this planned out, and given how some of these ads ran RIGHT AFTER Pelosi did that impeachment crap, professionally done with clips of various nutso dems calling for impeachment, it does seem he has gamed a lot of this out.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM
Melinda and Jane and I think he has had this planned out,..
This is another reason I have little to add to JOM anymore. I am watching a whole different show and I lack the ability to retroactively connect dots the way some can.
Trump does well on his heels and he has been on his heels for too long. I don't see this as part of some great concocted plan. It is brilliant counter-punching at best.
I'll comment here again when Trump lands a decisive blow.
Maybe in 2weeks? Probably longer.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 11:48 AM
I am going to try signing out and see if I run into the same trouble that Stephanie and JiB reported. If I can never get back in, bye...
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | September 26, 2019 at 11:50 AM
TK,
Let's use a little logic:
1. Please note how quickly the video ads roll out after something, like the impeachment call. Trump was ready for that.
2. Note how he played the reluctant person to get them to demand, DEMAND the release of that transcript, which just happened to mention Crowdstrike! Oh, and by the way, he had Rudy over there TEN MONTHS AGO, and we never heard about it.
3. Who knew he was going to draw 50,000 Indian-American voters to El Paso, and get that amazing Modi introduction?
I know you don't think he plans things, but he HAS to. It's his nature. You just don't decide one day to buy a plot of land and just start willy-nilly putting up a skyscraper. To do that you have to plan, and in construction there are a lot of moving parts.
Try to enjoy the show, even if you think it's simply defensive. It's amazing how it ALWAYS blows up in the dems' faces, isn't it?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 11:54 AM
Brit Hume
@brithume
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1h
As of Wednesday morning, when the Urkaine phone call transcript was released, the public knew more about what transpired on the call than the whistleblower knew when he/she filed the complaint.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 11:55 AM
I'm still logged in so I will add this. The hearing is decisively going in the favor of Dem/Media sound bites and quotes. Including several Republicans who have said they disagree with how Maguire handed as well as Turner (R) who said he thought the president's actions, revealed in the transcript, were inappropriate.
Maybe a random Twitterer will blow some smoke up some asses that claims the contrary. Again, I am watching a different political show, so who knows what is happening.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 11:57 AM
Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
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2h
The "whistleblower" complaint reads as if it were written by Adam Schiff. @realDonaldTrump
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 11:57 AM
The loon prosecutor is scribbling more stupidity. Gang bangers must be relieved.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 12:00 PM
Whistleblower's "sources" are comprised of what he heard from colleagues, from colleagues' colleagues, and on CNN and in the Washington Post and other mainstream media. There IS no "whistleblower" as a direct witness to anything.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:02 PM
I know you don't think he plans things,
I never said that. I am saying that the "logic" used stems from the notion that he plans everything.
I think it is a feel good security blanket used to forcibly not see when he is actually in trouble. And I don't mean trouble as in "doing something wrong." I mean it in "his hands are tied."
This mess we are witnessing is a counter-punch to yet another attack. If it was planned, he would not have released the transcript and compromised all future conversations between heads-of-states.
A system that protects executive conversations has just taken on water and Trump is scooping from outside the boat to the inside.
Maybe his plan was to leave executive conversations compromised so a much stronger GOP can spy on Dem executives? Baloney.
He is reacting to another attack. He didn't plan any of this episode.
Later.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 12:05 PM
I know you don't think he plans things,
I never said that. I am saying that the "logic" used stems from the notion that he plans everything.
I think it is a feel good security blanket used to forcibly not see when he is actually in trouble. And I don't mean trouble as in "doing something wrong." I mean it in "his hands are tied."
This mess we are witnessing is a counter-punch to yet another attack. If it was planned, he would not have released the transcript and compromised all future conversations between heads-of-states.
A system that protects executive conversations has just taken on water and Trump is scooping from outside the boat to the inside.
Maybe his plan was to leave executive conversations compromised so a much stronger GOP can spy on Dem executives? Baloney.
He is reacting to another attack. He didn't plan any of this episode.
Later.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 12:05 PM
Link goes to a tweet and a video.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:06 PM
Schiff is making an ass of himself. As usual!
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 12:09 PM
http://writingdreams.net/author-spotlight-hope-by-seelie-kay/
Because he is a goddamn traitor and he should be taken out and shot.
Simple enough?
Posted by: James D. | September 26, 2019 at 12:11 PM
Meant to quote this:
So why would Adam Schiff fabricate information and behave like this?
Not the url that I just posted on my personal author website!
Posted by: James D. | September 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM
Shem Horne
@Shem_Infinite
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15m
Devin Nunes just used his closing statement to advise the House Democrats that if they want to impeach the President they need to go to the floor of the House of Representatives and hold a vote to impeach, like the constitution says.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:14 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/26/rep-schiff-fabricates-trump-transcript/
If Nancy doesn't get it now--he just fried her and her party.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:15 PM
I just contributed to DJT's anti impeachment fund..I bet the money's pouring in fast.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:19 PM
CBS---"big bowl of nothing" "No quid pro quo"--Of course, Andrea finds "secret language" in there.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:21 PM
http://dcwhispers.com/dems-poke-the-silent-majority-bear-again-trump-2020-campaign-raises-5-million-in-just-24-hours/
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:22 PM
The NYT also lies in its front page article, connecting the "favor" with the discussion about the firing of the prosecutor, and eliding Trump's reference to the 2016 election and Crowdstrike.
Posted by: jimmyk | September 26, 2019 at 12:25 PM
Seems to me Schiff just screwed himself, Biden and the 4 other democrats who actually colluded with Ukraine.
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 12:26 PM
Jane, clarice,
Is there enough stuff here for a class action lawsuit against Schiff et al?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:32 PM
From Trump's speech yesterday:
Strange timing on Trump's part to execute plan Embarrass Pelosi during UN Week. His kabuki lamenting is part of the plan that he used to undermine his global accomplishments.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 12:32 PM
No,MM..on what theory? If we allow people to sue Senators for lying, the courts would be tied up forever.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 12:37 PM
THE TIDE TURNS: Democrats FREAK OUT After Transcript Reveals POTUS Trump Is on Crowdstrike Trail — He’s Going After Origins of Russia Hoax!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/the-tied-turns-democrats-freak-out-after-transcript-reveals-potus-trump-is-on-crowdstrike-trail-hes-going-after-origins-of-russia-hoax/
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM
tk, I don't think Trump planned this or wants this, just like he didn't plan or want Mueller. I think he is, as you say, counter-punching pretty well, but I don't think he'll completely have his bearings until he feels he's got it all figured out himself. So..right now, the ship of state is listing a bit while the criminal, amoral, non-patriotic Dems sow their oats. I do think it will take less than two weeks for Trump to vanquish them, because they are patently out of touch with good Americans and their values; we shall see.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 26, 2019 at 12:40 PM
https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/1177219400476311560
Kyle dissects the whistle blower memo. Pretty good reading.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:44 PM
Judicial Watch
🔎
@JudicialWatch
Weeks after JW reported that the sheriff of North Carolina’s biggest county released numerous violent illegal immigrant criminals from custody, new federal stats reveal that the problem is statewide.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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8m
That, and many other reasons, is why Republicans will win North Carolina!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:46 PM
Was ig Trump's plan to release this transcript all along? Well before the whistleblower? Did he set the whistleblower up so he could get the transcript out?
The transcript undermines the idea that Trump always has his chess pieces lined up for the next 3500 matches.
Why does Trump need Ukraine to help him out on stuff he has known for years and is slowly trickling out at politically expedient moments?
If that was a private conversation, it is a window into how much intelTrump still needs to prove anything against cabal members.
If it was planned long ago to release this transcript after UN week was destroyed by media speculation of impeachment, then I guess the bigger plan was to deceive everyone into believing that Trump is still on a fishing expedition trying to build a case against his enemies.
I assume indictments will be dropping shortly.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 12:46 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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3m
A whistleblower with second hand information? Another Fake News Story! See what was said on the very nice, no pressure, call. Another Witch Hunt!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:47 PM
Melinda, Jane,
Look at THIS!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:49 PM
We are on the same page, hrt. Except for the 2 week estimate.
I am done ranting here. I will be back when Trump lands a real blow on these assholes.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2019 at 12:50 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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1m
Adam Schiff has zero credibility. Another fantasy to hurt the Republican Party!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:50 PM
henry,
I have to run out. Could you check the President's tweets? Thanks!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 12:52 PM
I would guess the timing of this is the Democrats choice, to distract from the IG report coming out about FISA abuse. I'm skeptical that they are actively trying to take out Biden. Probably just an unintended Captain Tupolev move.
Posted by: jimmyk | September 26, 2019 at 12:53 PM
I would guess the timing of this is the Democrats choice, to distract from the IG report coming out about FISA abuse. I'm skeptical that they are actively trying to take out Biden. Probably just an unintended Captain Tupolev move.
Posted by: jimmyk | September 26, 2019 at 12:53 PM
Buckeye: [Mutt] probably figured if he was part of the administration, he could "steer" Trump in a direction that would keep the spotlight pointed in a different direction.
Ahem. At himself?
Posted by: sbwaters | September 26, 2019 at 12:58 PM
Typhuspad acting up. I haven't had any problems with signing in or getting involuntarily signed off, though.
Posted by: jimmyk | September 26, 2019 at 01:05 PM
I really think Romney is an idiot. Another one of those guys born on third base and thought he had hit a home run.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 01:08 PM
Signed in on my phone, even through upgrade. But can’t sign in on anything with useful cut&paste.
Typhuspad at its tricks.
Posted by: henry | September 26, 2019 at 01:25 PM
“There IS no "whistleblower"
Clarice has this exactly right.
Whoever this assclown “whistleblower” is, he invented a story. Unnamed “whistleblower” claims that unnamed WH people told him of deep concerns of other unnamed WH people, and that still other unnamed WH people took various actions etc. etc. All of it shaded by unsubstantiated presumptions that it all was illicit.
Posted by: Another Bob | September 26, 2019 at 01:26 PM
Did DaveMA ever get back in LOL?
I think I'll sign out and back in too
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 26, 2019 at 01:38 PM
I did a sign out but there was an auto-sign-in when I clicked to write a comment
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 26, 2019 at 01:40 PM
I, personally, loved Tucker bringing back Digenova last night - to double down on Napolitano instead of apologizing for calling him a fool. And Tucker cast all sorts of shade on Shemp, as a bonus.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 26, 2019 at 01:57 PM
I heard my neighbor talking to a friend saying that they heard from some dude that’s friends with the neighbor’s ex-girlfriend’s cousin’s dog walker that Typhuspad is run by Ukrainians.
Explosive Can’t Sign In Disorder.
H/T TK
Posted by: Gentlejim | September 26, 2019 at 01:57 PM
Thru Nov 21. Why can’t Pelosi’s House pass appropriations bills?
@CNBC
Senate has the votes to pass short-term funding bill, dodge government shutdown
Posted by: henry | September 26, 2019 at 01:58 PM
JiB, Dave and Narciso also cannot get into JOM today.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 02:03 PM
Misspellings at an all time low.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:04 PM
Captain,
Clarice is still here. (ducking from pistolas) :)
Posted by: Gentlejim | September 26, 2019 at 02:06 PM
I think that "minor surgery" was getting a new keyboard.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:08 PM
Because you can’t blame DJT for a shut down at year end if there is NO SHUT DOWN at year end.
Posted by: Melinda | September 26, 2019 at 02:08 PM
NYT knows.... what a surprise. (Not)
BREAKING NEWS: WHISTLEBLOWER IN UKRAINE CASE IS A CIA OFFICER - NYT
Posted by: henry | September 26, 2019 at 02:09 PM
And I agree with box as usual...
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:10 PM
Vid from White House
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1177280815404859392?s=21
Posted by: henry | September 26, 2019 at 02:11 PM
saw that MM.
Clarice alerted me to this: http://dcwhispers.com/doh-did-you-know-theres-a-treaty-between-the-usa-ukraine-regarding-cooperation-for-prosecuting-crimes/
Clinton started a treaty allowing the president to ask Ukraine for cooperation in crimes' investigations.
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:14 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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3m
Liddle’ Adam Schiff, who has worked unsuccessfully for 3 years to hurt the Republican Party and President, has just said that the Whistleblower, even though he or she only had second hand information, “is credible.” How can that be with zero info and a known bias. Democrat Scam!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:17 PM
Supposedly this is the whistleblower:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_M._Gordon
Read the end of the "Career" paragraph.
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:17 PM
One of the biggest red pills for me to swallow is realizing that the intel community mostly consists of people like Sue Gordon, Evan McMuffin and Valerie Plame rather than Jack Ryan and Mitch Rapp.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 26, 2019 01:51 PM (N4xQB)
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:18 PM
I am back and I see everyone is having problems. I am still signed in via Twitter.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:18 PM
Not everyone, Miss Marple.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:20 PM
Jane,
How do we know that is a real law? And if it is, was she fired for cause?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:22 PM
What is real law?
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:24 PM
Thrilling to see that someone with a BS in zoology was Deputy DNI.
Captain,
The keyboard comment was funny.
Posted by: Gentlejim | September 26, 2019 at 02:26 PM
btw, after I signed out and flicked Safari out from my phone and THEN started Safari and browsed to JOM ... at that point I could not log in.
Now I'm on another device.
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 26, 2019 at 02:27 PM
Jane,
A real law is one actually codified and not made up by some leftist who edited Wikipedia to suit his own purposes.
It seems to me if firing Gordon was against the law we would have heard about that before now.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:27 PM
Gordon was next in line to be promoted (part of the Brennan cabal) and Trump declined to appoint her.
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:27 PM
If we allow people to sue Senators for lying, the courts would be tied up forever.
I don't really see why that's a problem.
Seriously, though, what will it take to force at least some tiny measure of accountability on our government employees?
Are we going to have to march two or three million strong on DC and stay for weeks to get these people to honor the oaths they took and do their jobs and stop lying to us ALL THE GODDAMN TIME?
Posted by: James D. | September 26, 2019 at 02:28 PM
"What is real law?"
I said that poorly. What law are you referring to MM? The treaty?
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:29 PM
Jane,
I was referring to the sentence which says "According to law, the Deputy DNI succeeds the DNI..."
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:32 PM
MM,
i don't think you can force a president to appoint someone by law. They all serve at his pleasure. I didn't see (or don't remember) the reference.
Posted by: Jane | September 26, 2019 at 02:32 PM
Ned Ryun
@nedryun
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10m
Listen, far be it from me to judge, but why does Fox keep on putting fringe elements of the Republican Party, people that only represent 6% of the party? Putting on Never Trumpers like Steve Hayes is not reflective of reality.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:33 PM
Paul Mirengoff of PowerLine has a post up about double standards in the media. It ends:
"Like other Democratic partisans, the Post is quick to read into Trump’s utterances things that don’t appear on their face. When it comes to Democrats, its reporters become very literal.
Funny how that works."
Life is short ... but if you have the time, read Mr Mirengoff's post from a few days earlier about "Shoe On The Other Foot". To my eyes he indulged in the same fault as the WaPoo.
Why does it take RINOs so long to notice Dem perfidy? Come on!
Posted by: JimNorCal | September 26, 2019 at 02:37 PM
BREAKING: Senate votes 53-44 to confirm Eugene Scalia to be Labor secretary, replacing Alex Acosta, who resigned in July after facing criticism of his handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case - NBC News
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:40 PM
Link goes to screen cap of a portion of the whistle blower's complaint.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:42 PM
Definitely the paste eater's son:
My favorite part of the Hunter Biden story is that he told the Navy Reserve Board and his family that on his way to his weekend service he stopped at a bar and was offered a cigarette by some strangers that was laced with cocaine.
The sort of thing that happens all the time.
You know, how when you're walking down the street and "some guy you never saw before" gives you something, and mirabile dictu, it turns out to be stolen?
I hate it when that happens. One reason I never go walking down the street.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2019 02:40 PM (d0vJg)
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2019 at 02:44 PM
rse-
Aside from the fraud angles, note the opioid scammers in this list:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/florida-and-georgia-health-care-fraud-law-enforcement-action-results-charges-against-67
Posted by: Melinda | September 26, 2019 at 02:44 PM
Porchlight,
I hope you see this:
https://humanevents.com/2019/09/26/reddit-is-suffocating-the_donald/
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:51 PM
Rudy Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
The complaint of the so-called whistleblower, tells you on the first page his information is questionable. He says “I was not a direct witness...“ and additionally states over 20 times “I was told”, “I am concerned”, “I learned”, and not once did he say “I know”.
Under Anglo-American law, that is described as hearsay. Inadmissible because it is inherently unreliable. The definitive conclusion that this is somehow credible is impossible to make unless you’re entirely prejudiced.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:53 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7503985/Jean-Luc-Brunel-flees-Brazil-Paris-police-launch-official-investigation-raid-modelling-agency.html
Epstein crony.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 02:59 PM
Video of Rush at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:06 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/26/whistleblower-complaint-doesnt-do-democrats-any-favors/
Behind the paywall, so all I know is the headline and tweet.
It's by Henry Olson.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:08 PM
America Haters. We don’t want them. We don’t need them. Still, they keep coming. Really makes you think: https://www.kstatecollegian.com/2019/09/22/response-the-multicultural-student-center-is-a-step-forward-not-backward/
Posted by: Pinandpuller | September 26, 2019 at 03:10 PM
Ah, Brazil. That's where he was hiding. Someone is watching his cash trail.
Posted by: Melinda | September 26, 2019 at 03:11 PM
Melinda,
Isn't the president of Brazil a pro-Trump guy?
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:17 PM
Let me venture a guess--Schiff thought he'd pull this off because he never imagined Trump would release the transcript.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 03:21 PM
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/463252-irs-estimates-average-annual-tax-gap-of-441-billion-for-2011-to-2013
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:21 PM
Here's that article, Miss M. I find that if I open wapo in an incognito window, it really has no idea who I am (at least for awhile).
________________________________
Opinions
The whistleblower complaint doesn’t do Democrats any favors
By Henry Olsen
Columnist
September 26 at 1:56 PM
The whistleblower’s complaint that launched the current impeachment controversy has now been released. It offers little new information not already in the public domain. Furthermore, if it continues to be relied upon as evidence justifying impeachment, Democrats will have to make some hard choices about how to proceed.
The complaint is broken into four parts. The first describes the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The second alleges that White House officials improperly placed records of the call in an “electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature.” The third recounts a series of “ongoing concerns” that relate to meetings between Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and Zelensky aides and other meetings involving U.S. and Ukrainian diplomats to discuss how to proceed or “navigate” the president’s requests. The fourth recounts a series of news stories and tweets regarding the president’s actions and thoughts regarding Ukraine.
Aside from the second allegation, there is nothing new we have learned from the complaint. A rough transcript of the July 25 phone call was released Wednesday for all to read. The information in the third section is either standard operating procedure in this White House (Trump’s unpredictability regularly leads foreign governments to seek guidance from administration officials on how to proceed) or reflects what we already know, that Giuliani plays an unusual and disturbing role in this matter. The fourth is simply recitation of matter already in the public domain.
As a result, Democrats now have a difficult choice to make. The wisest course of action would probably be to drop the complaint as a significant piece of evidence, since it raises almost nothing new. That would be politically embarrassing since they have made so much of it, but they could claim that the whistleblower’s job has been done since it unearthed the alleged wrongdoing and placed it in the public domain.
The alternative course sets the Democrats on a dangerous path. If the whistleblower’s complaint is probative of impeachment, then the whistleblower must testify to find out who gave the person the information that is described. That cannot be done without Republicans present and likely means the whistleblower’s identity must be disclosed. It is one thing to keep that person’s identity secret when the matter is largely handled internally; it is quite another when it is being used to try to remove the democratically elected leader of our nation. The accused must have a chance to confront and cross-examine the witnesses against him, and that right applies as much to Trump as it does to anyone accused of wrongdoing.
Investigation of the whistleblower’s allegations also inserts the House Democrats into the deepest workings of the administration, such as the alleged discussions among White House officials to “lock down” records of the phone call. The president would be remiss if he did not assert executive privilege over these discussions. That will inevitably present Democrats with a Hobson’s choice: Either delay the impeachment hearings to fight such assertions of privilege in court or drop the matter to proceed to a vote without having all the evidence before it. Neither will help them achieve their likely aim: the swift resolution to impeach the president before the election year starts in earnest.
Republicans will surely want to probe the whistleblower’s connection to his or her lead attorney, Andrew Bakaj, if the complaint remains relevant. Bakaj has worked for three Democratic senators and, curiously, once served at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine. The complaint is dated Aug. 12 and alleges that the whistleblower has received facts from “more than half a dozen U.S. officials” relating to the president’s purported misdeeds “over the past four months,” i.e., since sometime in April. Bakaj donated to Democratic campaigns through Act Blue on April 26; the Washington Free Beacon reports one donation was earmarked for — you guessed it — Joe Biden’s presidential campaign. These facts could be coincidental, but don’t expect Republicans and the conservative media to let them go unnoticed.
Republicans would also be wise to read the complaint carefully. The author distinguished between “White House officials” and “U.S. officials.” The former group are clearly political appointees, but the latter group could include career government employees. The complainant only identifies “White House officials” as sources of his information in connection with the July 25 call and subsequent alleged use of the alternate storage system. All other information the person recounts, including the “facts” that started the complainant’s concerns, come from “U.S. officials.” Expect Republicans to try to uncover who these people are, and expect the president’s media defenders to allege this is further proof of the “deep-state conspiracy” against Trump.
The fire this whistleblower sparked is now raging throughout the capital. In fanning those flames, the Democrats might find they can neither control the conflagration’s course nor prevent the whistleblower from getting burned.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | September 26, 2019 at 03:23 PM
Thanks, hrtshpdbox!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:24 PM
Really weird stuff starts about 1/2-way through on attached video. I have no idea what she's saying since I don't speak Swedish.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | September 26, 2019 at 03:30 PM
Just a matter of time until the whistleblower's name is recealed. The NYT starts the ball rolling
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistle-blower-is-a-cia-officer-who-was-detailed-to-the-white-house/ar-AAHToDz?fbclid=IwAR29uXkz8J6Z_cZ916cV27RnQiyTn_9drc3DINcY_BAJOpIGyAsie8sDAsQ
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 03:48 PM
@Simpsonreport
@JackPosobiec @julie_kelly2 Small world--Did you see who took Hunter's place at Burisma, 6 months after Hunter left? Cofer Black, CIA and a former Romney advisor. And who took Black's former position as Director of Nat'l Counterterrorism? Brennan. See:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/mitt_romney_adviser_sits_on_burisma_board_of_directors.html
Posted by: henry | September 26, 2019 at 03:51 PM
Maybe if citizens had the right to sue legislators over the (entirely predictable) disastrous consequences of bad legislation, we’d see less of it:
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/09/26/california-shocked-find-bill-decriminalizing-retail-theft-resulted-retail-theft/
Posted by: James D. | September 26, 2019 at 04:08 PM
Prosobiec is wrong. Cofer Black was on the Burisma Board all the time Hunter Biden (who just left this April) was there.I believe Black is still on that Board.
Posted by: clarice | September 26, 2019 at 04:12 PM