Battle Lines

The impeachment polling is shaping up as more trench warfare in 50/50 nation.

I promise you, there are people out there thinking that (to snatch a few recent examples from the headlines) the idea of hosting the G-& at Trump's Doral resort was an optically dubious decision and the Ukraine arm-twisting is not how a President should exert his power. But they're also thinking that the Warren/Sanders intended fracking ban would be a disaster. 

We're on track for another sequel: Lesser of Two Evils II. 

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[Melinda]

Or, other members of Congress are protecting their own line of business. The Katie Hill story takes an immediate bizarre twist:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1186752968642555904

And there was no arm twisting, except by MFM and Adam Schiff, that should be apparent by now.

[Melinda]

Doral was bait for something that hasn't popped into view yet, is my guess. So I'll wait until it does.

[henry]

Seems we need a Mueller level investigation of each member of Congress.

[Melinda]

And since Mueller's personal emails got pulled from his ISP (VZ), we have a whole new field of view to wait for focus.

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
15m

Republicans are going to fight harder than ever to win back the House because of what the Do Nothing Democrats have done to our Country!

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
20m

Neither he (Taylor) or any other witness has provided testimony that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld. You can’t have a quid pro quo with no quo.” Congressman John Ratcliffe @foxandfriends Where is the Whistleblower? The Do Nothing Dems case is DEAD!

[henry]

Lawyers making sausage.

https://www.wpr.org/wisconsin-supreme-court-hears-arguments-unions-lame-duck-lawsuit

[Another Bob]

“The Do Nothing Dems case is DEAD!”

If Trump hasn’t figured out that the actual facts are the last thing anyone cares about, we‘re in bigger trouble than I’ve imagined.

[Another Bob]

I don’t recall this clearly, but weren’t the republicans literally locked out of the Obamacare “debate”?

[henry]

Another Bob, yes.

[henry]

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
now

The Trump administration files suit to shut down California’s emissions-trading market designed to limit air pollution, claiming it is unconstitutional

[peter]

I am sorry to disagree with our esteemed blog host but this is not a year of choosing between the lesser of two evils. The Democrats are pure evil. Donald Trump is flawed, but his Presidency is fighting pure evil. Congrats to the nats

[Another Bob]

People are oh-so-concerned (optics or more) about the potential of Trump (who is donating his presidential salary) making a few pennies profit off the G-7? Tut tut, bad optics.

But the speaker of the house is running a Star Chamber consisting only of her caucus to manipulate election outcomes, and unlawfully overthrow the president? Shrugs.

I think TM is trolling us.

[MissMarple2]

Well, I have waited for a president like this my entire life, so I will vote for President Trump with enough joy to make up for our hosts gloom.

[Narciso]

Ask nelson rickefeller if hia brothers hotel was an emolument in 1975.

[Another Bob]

Amen, Peter, amen.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
7m
Young campus Conservatives are flocking to Turning Point USA & other Conservative speaker events all over the Country, AND IN RECORD NUMBERS. Thousands of students are turning out. “I just want to compliment the President of the United States for signing that historic Executive..

..Order a couple of months ago saying that any school that does not uphold the First Amendment Rights of its students will lose Federal Funding. We have seen a huge change in how the Universities interact with us as a national & local student organization. Our studends....

....feel EMPOWERED. There’s a movement happening on these campuses like I’ve never seen before. When you have 3000 students wanting to get into an event that couldn’t get in, that’s pretty remarkable!” @charliekirk11
Turning Point USA KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

[Another Bob]

Or if the Clinton’s throwing the travel office business to friends (and donors) was.

[Another Bob]

Charlie Kirk has some growing up to do.

[Narciso]

Taylor and schiff (and murphy) rehearsing their skit)

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
1m

Big success on the Turkey/Syria Border. Safe Zone created! Ceasefire has held and combat missions have ended. Kurds are safe and have worked very nicely with us. Captured ISIS prisoners secured. I will be making a statement at 11:00 A.M. from the White House. Thank you!

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
1m

Where’s the Whistleblower?

[Another Bob]

Trump really needs to put a “so-called” before “whistleblower”.

[James D.]

I think TM is trolling us.

Maybe he is, but I really wish he wouldn't, because it's not funny in the least. Especially with the constant downpour of MSM crap we have to wade through every day, and the stakes that are at risk.

[James D.]

Trump really needs to put a “so-called” before “whistleblower”.

Trump needs to draw some actual blood from someone prominent on the left, and not in some indefinite endless #twoweeks.

This will never stop until the Democrats and the MSM pay an actual price for their treachery.

[Another Bob]

No argument from me James. It’s already gone on too long.

[MissMarple2]

I think I posted this thread yesterday or the day before, but Stu has added to it.

ttps://twitter.com/STUinSD/status/1186629060404887552

Connection between Brennan, Cofer Black, and Mitt Romney.

Also, in the replies to Stu I found this bit of information:

Mr. Bill Morrison
@soldier4Him
·
23h
Replying to
@STUinSD
and
@POTUS
Shortly after Obama became a US Senator, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, and Eric Holder created the HOPE PAC to fund Obama's run for POTUS. The first corporate donor was Bain Capital, of Mitt Romney fame (infamy). Bain has given millions to the DNC.

[MissMarple2]

Goofed up the link:

https://twitter.com/STUinSD/status/1186629060404887552

[henry]

Miss M, I assume Josh Beckstein drove those donations, he was Managing Partner and cofounder of Bain Capital with Mitt. (Josh is someone I know a bit from Yale).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Bekenstein

[henry]

This will help.

Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
11s

Chicago calls for decriminalization of hallucinogenic mushrooms.

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-city-council-calls-for-decriminalization-of-magic-mushrooms/

[henry]

predictable:

Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
8m

Evers refusing to implement rule to drug test childless, able-bodied welfare recipients in WI. And given the hot job market, why are there childless,able-bodied welfare recipients in the first place? And where would they get the $$ for drugs if not a job?

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/wisconsin-has-yet-to-implement-drug-screening-requirements-for-certain/article_45d04f62-58c5-52c2-a782-845398a38594.html

[Captain Hate]

What the party loyalists like maryrose are having, and will have, a hard time with what is being revealed is both sides have their share of creeps although it's skewed more on the commiecrat side. It sucks to have to admit that you've been conned because that's how I felt about the Rear Admiral. Dogmatically refusing to believe that isn't a smart thing to do.

[MissMarple2]

I see on Twitter that Bed, Bath and Beyond has pulled black jack-o-lanterns from their Halloween displays (and I assume sales) because of a blackface complaint.

I cannot begin to say how stupid this is.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

Social media has ruined their con. Trump has used it to SHOW people.

A lot of people made fun of Trump as a "reality TV star" but he actually understands the power of television and social media. He uses them as tools, and by luring out backstabbers like Romney, he is SHOWING Republicans who they are.

That 11th Commandment of Reagan's is kaput when you have traitors like Mitt.

[MissMarple2]

A response to the black jack-o-lantern story, with some common sense:

Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
·
11m
Corporate America still hasn’t adjusted to the modern era. Every complaint doesn’t warrant a response.

And it’s hurting the country as a whole because whiny offended losers actually do have real power now. Corporate America is giving it to them. Just ignore them.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

You would think they would pull the blue pumpkins due to them making fun of progressive feminist males IYKWIM.

[henry]

The White House @WhiteHouse
1m

"Speaker Pelosi isn't refusing to hold a vote on impeachment.

She is refusing to hold a fourth vote on impeachment.

There have already been three votes. They all failed. Miserably."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pelosi-impeachment-votes-jason-chaffetz

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dicks-sporting-goods-ceo-seeks-to-trade-in-gun-activism-for-third-party-2020-bid

henry,

Have you heard anything about this?

[Captain Hate]

Miss Marple,

Trump's media experience was essential to his political rise. He already had name recognition to the not political types and many of them found him entertaining.

[henry]

Miss M, hearing about that focus group would require answering the landline at home. I don't know who would vote for the dude aside from Mitt, the Real Admiral and the cruisers.

[James D.]

MM @ 9:27

This reply to that tweet is even more troubling:

Be aware, millennials are saturating Human Resource depts and will fundamentally change corporate America, for the worse, in 10 years

And of course it’ll be the worst millennials, the ones who majored in Grievance Studies and spent their spare time going to SJW protests.

[Jim Eagle]

Oh, Ed Stack, please do go 3rd party on a gun control platform.

Trump just went from winning to a Reaganesque landslide.

I have a hard time imagining Republicans, Trumpers, and even 2nd Amendment Democrats voting for a control nut.

[Narciso]

Correction, brennnan was station chief in riyadh in the early 90s, then tenet picked him for chief of staff, jiddah would be a base like a satellite, now cofer black was at large anbassador in 2002 whem burisma was founded.

[Narciso]

Hes following the adam neumann underwear gnomes profit model.

So obama could extort israel to prevent settlements but trump cant encourage zelensky to crack down.

Followinh my ludlumesque trail why were certain figures like say the two san diego highjackers or zuhair allowed to transit to and fro, because they were working with the regime in bosnia or chechnya.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/10/23/how-trump-is-beating-activist-judges-on-immigration/

This is a short interview with Ken Cuccinelli. There is also a transcript.

[MissMarple2]

The only thing I can think of Ed Stack doing is possibly shaving off some semi-normal democrat votes of those who detest the dem candidate but cannot bring themselves to vote for Trump.

That is how my dad ended up voting for George Wallace. He detested McGovern and the anti-war left.

[Narciso]

The last was working for the saudi high commission, killed an aid worker, avoided justice until he was nabbed in a plot to bomb the embassy in sarajevo sent to gitmo

[Captain Hate]

Dirty Harry said it best: HR's for idiots.

[Narciso]

A little perspective:

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/23/giuliani-style_shadow_diplomacy_par_for_the_course_of_us_history_120883.html

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/warren-jabs-at-trump-on-foreign-policy-know-the-difference-between-our-friends-and-our-enemies

This woman is going to get up on her sanctimonious high horse about as much as Romney.

By the way, I heard a speech by Secretary Pompeo early this morning, and it was quite thoughtful and had a lot of interesting points that I had not heard about, thanks to our Pravda press. He was an excellent choice for State.

[Jane]

My pool friend explained the democrat strategy on impeachment today. First I was impressed that he was trying to get informed. 2nd, I tried really hard not to laugh. It's gotta be hard to only gt half the facts.

At any rate, according to him the dems are "strategically" waiting, as more is to come out about "evil Trump whose tax cut only helped the very rich".

[MissMarple2]

Unions cheer on President Trump's return to Shale conference in Pittsburgh https://t.co/qL13MOOZpz @FoxNews #AAG #AAG2020

— All American Girl (@AIIAmericanGirI) October 23, 2019

Video of a Boilermaker's Union official at the link.

[Narciso]

So all this supposed russian bot traffic is identified by an outfit with a message board hamilton 68, run by chertoff, who in turn worked for the ukrainian they are going after.

Like angleton said, there are many rooms in the mansion.

[Captain Hate]

"evil Trump whose tax cut only helped the very rich".

Raising the standard deduction only helped the wealthy? Who knew?

[Narciso]

Guiliani for, the usa today piece (i know) mentions victor chimkin, they leave out he was a clinton foundation donor.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hawley-to-introduce-bill-moving-federal-agencies-out-of-washington-d-c-to-economically-stagnant-areas/

[mike in houston]

Copied over from last thread.

I know there are not a lot of Astros fans on this board but I found this article uplifting..

Watch MLB Superstar Altuve Give All the Glory to God After Walk-Off HR Sends Team to the World Series

https://www.westernjournal.com/watch-mlb-superstar-altuve-give-glory-god-walk-off-hr-sends-team-world-series/?utm_source=push&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2019-10-20&utm_campaign=pushtraffic

By the way, many years ago when we lived in CT. my dad's company had box seats at Yankee Stadium and I cheered for the likes of Mantle and Maris. Changed when I moved to Houston, but I believe in the jink of talking about upcoming games so I'll just be quiet. :)

[Buckeye]

So here is a $64 million dollar question.

If Trump, for whatever reason, decided he was no longer a candidate for 2020, could another "Republican" step in and win??

[Narciso]

Hmm:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GPollowitz/status/1186998264719138816

[Tom R]

Charlie Kirk has some growing up to do.

AB @ 8:40

Why would you say that about Charlie Kirk? Is it because he is not displaying the negativity and pessimism that many on The Ledge display about the future? I would think what Kirk describes happening across campuses nationwide would encourage you that Trump and the MAGA agenda is winning over the hearts and minds of the nation's youth.

[Lili-beth]

”Folks, Tulsi and Jill are both Red,
Trump can’t keep me out of his head,
my pantsuits are trendy!”
Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s...
“And Epstein is happy he’s dead!!”

[henry]

perfect Lili-beth.

[Narciso]

15 page opening atatement, the indianopolis monologue in jaws (writtem by milius ans edited by shaw was 10)

[henry]

this again.

Adam Klasfeld @KlasfeldReports
2h

Good morning from New York.

Trump's subpoena fight with Manhattan DA Vance heads to the Second Circuit this morning at 10 am EST, and then the arraignment of Giuliani's associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman start at 11:30 am EST.

Properly caffeinated, for @CourthouseNews.

[JimNorCal]

"But they're also thinking that the Warren/Sanders intended fracking ban would be a disaster."

And the fracking ban is not all. Not by a long shot.
How about spying on your political opponents using govt agencies? How about threatening businesses and forcing them to "donate" to approved "community" groups? This sh*t is real.

[Narciso]

Heh lilibeth.

Why did they pick as envoy someone who last been there in the timoshenkp administration?

[D]

I agree with JamesD and Another Bob.
Some decisive action needs to come down on the Dems involved in the coup against Trump’s administration.Sooner rather than later.
Perhaps President Trump has no plan. That possibility also needs to be considered.
Where are the Senste Republicans?
Last I heard Graham is waiting for Horowitz report before he does anything.
This is not acceptable and shows no plan on the part of the majority party in the Senate.
How can the administration light a fire under these guys?

[henry]

How Mao of him:

Simon Rabinovitch @S_Rabinovitch
33m

I've heard employees of Chinese state firms complain about the time that they now need to devote to studying "Xi Jinping Thought". But this takes it to a new level: one third of their working hours!
(From a @Gavekal report)

https://twitter.com/S_Rabinovitch/status/1187003635399397378

[Captain Hate]

LOL Lili-beth!

After Ace wrote his mocking salutes to the crazed nature of the Democrat candidates, it is noticeable how many MSM outlets began to panic. So, I think I'll "write" a LAT column that regurgitates the New Yorker and NYT pieces advocating for Michelle Obama to save the Democrat party, and enter the race. And when I say "write" I mean plagiarize.
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at October 23, 2019 10:22 AM (LISuA)

[Buckeye]

Repubs are trying to storm Schiff's hearing, at least so says Gallagher.

[henry]

Ivan Pentchoukov
@IvanPentchoukov

RIGHT NOW: Group of about two dozen Republicans enter House Intelligence Committee impeachment hearing. Some are not part of the proceedings.

[JimNorCal]

An indication of returning sanity?
Jeez, this choice shoulda been obvious months, even a couple years, ago.
"We're on track for another sequel: Lesser of Two Evils II"

[henry]

They should have a sit in.

[Narciso]

They have set many tripwires, to prevent info being gathered, eickenrode as one of durhams investigators is just one. Lawfare comducted through the campaign legal center.

[Melinda]

Who will deliver the pizza?

[Narciso]

Where did they get their law degree

https://mobile.twitter.com/jabeale/status/1186796512308793345

This is like a python sketch.

[Narciso]

Im going to blackmail you with something you arent aware of, come again?

[Captain Hate]

mike in houston,

Even though I'm cheering for the Nats I also like the Astros.

[Captain Hate]

Tom R,

Sundance is like a Patterico level brain without the NeverTrump obsession.

[Narciso]

Hope springs eternal, i guess:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[MissMarple2]

matt,

I never got interested much in baseball because we don't have a major league team and when I was a kid, the minor league ball park was out on the west side in a high crime area so my dad didn't like to go.

Watching those videos I can get a glimpse of the attraction. Thanks for brining that link over!

[Narciso]

Sundance has been fairly solid on the facts of this cabal, its just the facts and the law doesnt matter. There have been some blind allies, obviously sue gordon was involved but at arms length.

[JimNorCal]

LIli-beth that was great.

[Narciso]

What a tedious punk hes already graduated to fideloflake level

https://mobile.twitter.com/justinamash/status/1186836363234238469

[MissMarple2]

Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
·
11h
You mean the Kurds, who died by thousands fighting ISIS, didn’t just throw open all the prison doors and let them all go when we stepped aside???!!

Gosh, how dumb do you have to be to think that would happen?

[Narciso]

And of course he opposed the syrian withdrawal, now kyle orton who knows the terrain, and hence cant stand any of the factions, reminded me of the arab countries that were supposed to replace us but flaked.

[JimNorCal]

For TM and anyone else who missed it, the Trump org donates profits from foreign groups to the US Treasury.

ABob:
People are oh-so-concerned (optics or more) about the potential of Trump (who is donating his presidential salary) making a few pennies profit off the G-7?

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/10/trump-wont-profit-from-g-7.html

The Associated Press (link) reported on February 25, 2019, "President Donald Trump’s company said on Monday that it donated nearly $200,000 to the U.S. Treasury to make good on its promise two years ago to hand over profits from foreign governments using its properties.

"The Trump Organization said a check for $191,538 sent to Treasury represents profits from embassy parties, hotel stays and other foreign government spending at its Washington hotel and other properties last year. The voluntary donation is up from $151,470 sent a year ago to cover the president’s first calendar year in office.

"Trump announced the donation plan before his inauguration two years ago in response to criticism that in refusing to sell off his business, people would suspect his decisions in office would be influenced by spending at his properties and not necessarily reflect the public interest."

[Narciso]

No christiane we arent buying your atrocity theatre, again:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1186839530369880068

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-facing-snub-from-chicagos-top-cop-report

I entered the contest with a $25 donation. I would probably have a heart attack if I were chosen. LOL!

[MissMarple2]

Melania Trump
@FLOTUS
·
1h
Today starts #RedRibbonWeek. There is no room for illegal drugs in our schools & communities. I encourage youth to take the pledge this week & choose to live #DrugFree. #BeBest

[Threadkiller]

The Sundance link I read painted Hannity and Graham as morons and opportunists. Did he get that wrong?

[Narciso]

You noted my gruber reference.

Graham has the gavel, do not gab

[henry]

From Miss M's link, Chicago Police leading by example.

Plus, Johnson may be interested in keeping a low profile these days: He’s coming off a recent mini-scandal in which he was found asleep in his vehicle, reportedly after having consumed “a couple of drinks with dinner,” according to Mayor Lori Lightfoot.

[Narciso]

Interesting:

https://mobile.twitter.com/badluck_jones/status/1186857073759399936

[Tom R]

TK @ 10:53

Sundance painted Hannity as a "Decepticon" which is the term he uses to describe someone who publicly portrays themselves as a conservative and Trump supporter but who privately is opposed to Trump and the MAGA agenda.

[Threadkiller]

Busy day today, but when I get back I plan on birthering the thread with my thoughts on the Michigan lug nut case. The court had it right. The Japalopocrook lawyer's opinion is typical hooey.

No time to find the link. Jim posted it on the last thread.

[Narciso]

I would drink if i had that job, because i know its a no win situation, its like being the chief of culiacan.

[James D.]

If Trump, for whatever reason, decided he was no longer a candidate for 2020, could another "Republican" step in and win??

No.

It's difficult to think of anyone in the party with a national reputation who I have the slightest trust in, outside of President Trump. And I think that I am FAR from alone in that.

[Narciso]

No i dont think so, but he cant just settle for statements, take nunes as the benchmark.

[JimNorCal]

Buckeye:
If Trump, for whatever reason, decided he was no longer a candidate for 2020, could another "Republican" step in and win??

I'll vote a tentative "no".
Which is disappointing and a bit scary ...