I've Had Worse News

Not that we celebrate death around here but I'll cheer for justice:

ISIS leader al-Baghdadi believed to have been killed in a US military raid, sources say

Trump will address the nation at 9AM. I doubt it is to announce tonight's starting pitchers.

DO LET ME ADD: My kids have put up with many years of the following type of dialogue:

Eager Learner: "I hate those guys [at the DMV / at the supermarket / reffing the game/ whatever]. They are the worst!"

Pedantic Yet Seemingly Inexhaustible Dad: "OMG don't hate! We aren't haters! OK, yes, we hate ISIS. And Bin Laden, but he's dead. And Kim Il-whoever is running North Korea into the dirt is hate-worthy. That pretty much covers it. Don't be a hater."

I try to keep the list pretty short but I'm always happy to shorten it. If I were a better Christian I'd take a hate-the-sinner sin-not-the-sinner view, but I have other failings I'll focus on before my ISIS-hating rises to the top of my self-improvement list.

BONUS: Here is a transcript of Obama on Osama. Some will wonder whether Trump will also be self-congratulatory.

Comments

[The Infamous Ignatz]

That twitter feed by that Shellenberger MD guy re Newsome and PG&E has a few valid points and a bunch of stupid blather.

[Jane]

Iggy,

THE expenses are ridiculous and the laws worse, but if that doesn’t bother you, no problem. Hope you and Jim can take it back.

[Jane]

Steph, I’ll text you in the morning, since
I can’t do it from my iPad.

[MissMarple2]

Ignatz,

One of the valuable aspects of this site is getting the scoop from people who are actually IN THE AREA and know what's going on.

Sitting out here in Indiana, I don't have a clue, and have to get my info from the MSM and people on Twitter.

Thanks for letting me know!

[MissMarple2]

Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
·
5h
It has been clear all along that among Trump’s more useful side effects was inducing hyper partisan libs who pose as “journalists” to expose themselves-

But we can add to that exposing former “conservative” never trumpers who are really just emotionally unstable narcissists.

[JM Hanes]

Ignatz:

"He didn't say these are symbols of my body and blood, as most Protestants hold. He said they are my body and blood."

I wouldn't presume to challenge you on a theological basis, but in terms of language, one could certainly argue that you are simply extrapolating more than necessarily follows from what may simply be the difference between a simile and a metaphor.

Simile: I am like a kettle, boiling over.
Metaphor: I am a kettle, boiling over.

Jesus used metaphors prolifically, with what often seemed like no expectation that he would be taken literally. Ditto for both Old and New Testament writers, generally. Biblical narratives are mined for symbolism on a continuous basis in churches everywhere.

In any case, that's how it strikes me, but I'm not relying on any particular theological exegesis, let alone expertise.

[Narciso]

Something close to objective:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/a-better-obituary-and-a-useful-reminder.php

[Narciso]

Exactly its like with this series ive spoken about earlier, apocalypais, it is fairly faithful to scripture, except on possibly two points, the man of sin, is more likely to be a religious rather than a political figure and the rebuilt temple is also likely to metaphodical as well.

[Narciso]

Metaphorical, so where did this vindman character come from.

[clarice]

great link, narciso.

[JM Hanes]

Jane:

"This is not intended to be a rude question: but why don’t you people in CA move?"

I thought it was a great question, and I've been very interested in people's answers. Learned a number of things about some of our fellow posters that I didn't know, even after all these years.

[Narciso]

They want to make us believe everything of consequence only after from 2017 on, thats like saying only focus on world war 2 from 1942 on, como (whats that)

[Narciso]

Some awkward questions

https://mobile.twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/1188879280807337984

Remember with bin laden and abbotabad

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--THE expenses are ridiculous and the laws worse, but if that doesn’t bother you, no problem.--

Yes Jane, ridiculous expenses and even worse laws don't bother me a bit. In fact, I love them.
Or possibly, I think some things are worth staying and fighting for.
After all, there are forty million Californians. By the time they've all moved there will be no place to get away from them.

[JM Hanes]

I find myself wondering what the whole dead end tunnel thing was about.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Warning, spoiler

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/who-is-actually-tolerant.php
This culture war ... (rolls eyes).
Republicans don't want their sons marrying Democrats,
Democrats don't want their sons marrying women ... ridiculous
(Laughter erupts)

[MissMarple2]

The raid that killed Baghdadi shows that @realDonaldTrump—who has been repeatedly attacked by an illegitimate "impeachment" probe—kept his eye on the ball.

The president has shown what true leadership looks like. pic.twitter.com/T05iZyNCCG

— Rep. Doug Collins (@RepDougCollins) October 28, 2019

Link goes to video with Maria Bartiromo.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--you are simply extrapolating more than necessarily follows from what may simply be the difference between a simile and a metaphor--

Quite possibly, since I haven't cut off my hand or plucked out my eye.
But the context does seem to convey something more.
In the eternal end, it's not that important:
In the essentials, unity.
In the non-essentials, liberty.
In all things, charity.

[JM Hanes]

Ignatz:

"By the time they've all moved there will be no place to get away from them."

That's already proving problematic, if Bozeman is typical. They move away from California and then lobby for all the same kind of laws and policies that drove them away in the first place. It seems to be a matter of wanting to control everything in their viewsheds -- both literally and figuratively.

[DrJ]

Jane,

The funny thing about strict laws is that the stricter they are, the more they are ignored.

I bought my last house in the Santa Rosa, CA area. The building codes frankly are ridiculous. So most country properties were "nonconforming" -- that is, people made changes or added parts to the house or buildings on the property without permits.

Most were done well. The house I ended up buying had a nonconforming room added to the garage. It was fine.

The important thing is if the crazy laws are enforced. Here in Placer county the crazy ones are not.

Nothing can be done about the taxes, but the rest of the dreck usually can be ignored.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-baghdadi-raid-timeline/timeline-anatomy-of-a-raid-how-the-united-states-took-out-baghdadi-idUSKBN1X60P8

[Narciso]

Thats a very good obit, probably richard spencer who is their middle east correspondent qrote it, yes it has that human interest material. And some auppositions.

It doesnt eeally explain why him, he was the last man of the iraqi resistance standing the new guy afari is from middle management. Iraqi army core.

[MissMarple2]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DeptofDefense/status/1188938493394870272

Medal of Honor will be awarded to this man this week.

[MissMarple2]

Nytol, everyone!

[Narciso]

Spider gets stuck in his own web

https://amp.ft.com/content/34be76ce-f708-11e9-a79c-bc9acae3b654?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6&__twitter_impression=true

[Narciso]

Hes all thr way around the bend:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/28/washington-post-columnist-blowing-up-three-children-with-a-suicide-vest-proves-baghdadi-wasnt-a-coward/

[Narciso]

To they took a spike to the terminator series, guess what they did in their sjw memory hole mania?

[JM Hanes]

From Last Week's Top 5 Space & Science Headlines.
Titan's Dunes (all 4 million square miles of them!):

“Bottom line, we don’t know exactly what the sand is and we don’t know how it got there,” says Ralph Lorenz at John Hopkins University.

And On this day in history:

In 1636 Harvard College was founded in Massachusetts. 
In 1793 Eli Whitney applied for a patent for his cotton gin (the patent was granted the following March). 
In 1886 the Statue of Liberty, a gift from the people of France, was dedicated in New York Harbor by President Cleveland. 
In 1919 Congress enacted the Volstead Act, which provided for enforcement of Prohibition, over President Wilson's veto. 
In 1922 Benito Mussolini and his Fascist Party took control of the Italian government. 
In 1936 President Roosevelt rededicated the Statue of Liberty on its 50th anniversary. 
In 1940 Italy invaded Greece during World War II. 
In 1958 the Roman Catholic patriarch of Venice, Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, was elected Pope; he took the name John XXIII. 
In 1962 Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev informed the US that he had ordered the dismantling of Soviet missile bases in Cuba. 
In 1980 President Carter and Republican presidential nominee Ronald Reagan faced off in a nationally broadcast, 90-minute debate in Cleveland.

In 2019.... they'll probably skip this year in the Oct 28th litany.

[Narciso]

That is fascinating jm about titan, you think of it like a icy ball, like io was a volcanic cornucopia (i think only outland has really set any recent story 1982, their version of high noon.)

[jim nj]

Melinda,

Had to smile at your post on Tahir Square in Tehran.., no, Cairo...,no...

Baghdad and the rest of Iraq have been at a high boil for about 10 days now. I've posted a little on that, but with Iraq, Lebanon and even parts of Egypt protesting it's easy to confuse them.

In Iraq they are protesting corruption, high unemployment, a non-functional government riven with sectarianism and some are fed up with Iranian influence.

Lots of violence going on. Many killed, even more wounded. Reports of snipers taking out people. Indiscriminant use of tear gas...

[Captain Hate]

It's so liberating to not have to pretend to like gasbags like Will and Boot.

[Narciso]

Why would ahe still live there:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1X60FF

[jim nj]

Vindman? Wasn't he one of the Ghostbusters?

[clarice]

Why Nancy wants a vote on impeachment:https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/346723/

[Narciso]

Beirut and Baghdad have iranian proxies, , the latter were the militias that were deputized into the islamic state fight.

[Narciso]

This is one of them:

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/asaib-ahl-al-haq#highlight_text_7962

[Narciso]

You note how that clan gets around, ayria lebanon or even jordan

https://mobile.twitter.com/AcrossTheBay/status/1188847667155263489

[Narciso]

Even when you know the players,

https://mobile.twitter.com/PolatCanRojava

[Narciso]

So did they feed the times or did the times prompt them.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Wretchard's latest.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Spengler's latest.
"It's Time for Every American Patriot to Rally Around Trump: The American Republic Is at Stake"

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Great line from Spengler;
"The parade of striped-pants cookie-pushers from the State Department feeding information to closed-door Democratic Party kangaroo courts in the House of Representatives is irrelevant. "

[Narciso]

I meant to bring elizabeth price foleys op ed, one of the few useful elements still extant in the journal

If the kurds knew thix bit of info a momth ago, its a game changing bit of intelligence dont you think?

[Narciso]

Of course its ridiculous:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jabeale/status/1189028584100421632

[Manuel Transmission]

Re places to live, we spent a lot of effort sorting that out 25 yrs ago.

No income tax, check.
No air conditioning required, check.
Almost never freezing, check.
Beautiful scenery in all directions, check.
Almost every conceivable outdoor sport available, check.
Blue county, yes, but we can chase them off with only a handful of wireless brain implants if/when the balloon goes up.

[Narciso]

Except that instance was a way to obscure al quedas advance

https://mobile.twitter.com/marcthiessen/status/1188458464823173120

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Wireless brain implants--

Heh, heh.

[Narciso]

Chinese conatanza?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1188922563587661830

[Narciso]

Back to this again?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Heminator/status/1188907687108665345

[jim nj]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-judges-gerrymandered-gop-friendly-districting-eric-holder

North Carolina judges toss GOP's 'gerrymandered' districts, in major win for Eric Holder initiative

[Narciso]

Seems like even too much of a challenge for olivia pope:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/nbc-covers-for-katie-hill.php

[Narciso]

When the courts away, the mice will play,

[The Infamous Ignatz]

BTW, get ready Tennessee.
I know not a small number of Californians headed that way or considering it.
Of course they're all conservative Christian friends but still, Tennessee seems to be in.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

I've always liked Sir Charles but he clanged on off the back of the rim when he pulled a LeBron, re China.
Disappointing.

[jim nj]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-emissions-california/gm-toyota-fiat-chrysler-seek-to-intervene-in-california-emissions-suit-idUSKBN1X728Y?il=0

I think it's in their best interests to back Trump and the feds against California.

The other automakers that cut a deal with California acted as a cartel in my opinion.

"After the four automakers — including BMW AG— announced the voluntary California agreement, the Justice Department sent letters to them warning the agreement “may violate federal antitrust laws,” according to documents seen by Reuters."

I think the feds should play a little hardball on this. If California and Democrats want to make this an issue we should go scorched earth on them.

I think there should be one nation-wide set of rules for all domestic automakers rather than some companies that think they might have an edge over the others to cut sweetheart deals.

I also think they should find something other than CAFE as a measurement. It tends to subsidize foreign manufacturers that have larger markets of gas-sipper buyers in their home markets.

[jim nj]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-defends-integrity-of-durham-investigation-explains-italy-trip

Barr defends Durham probe, rips Comey FBI for ‘failure of leadership’

[Barbara]

This is such a rich thread, so even though I'm far behind out her on the left coast I'll put my 2 cents in on a couple of things.

As a Catholic taught by the nuns eons ago, I tend to take things fairly literally. Although I realize that the New Testament comes down to us through translation over the ages, I note that when Jesus said something that was difficult for his apostles to accept, he never backed down. When some disciples walked away, he turned to his apostles and asked, "Are you going to leave, too?" That's pretty much the benchmark for me. As a believer in his life, death and resurrection , it's not a great leap for me to accept him at his word. As a result the part of the Mass that includes the consecration of the host and communion is particularly important and special to me.

As far as staying or leaving California, that's a difficult question. One of my sisters plans to leave for the very issues raised here. However, I feel very much like Dr. J and Iggy do on the matter. When fires raged through California during Governor Gray Davis' term, Californians rose up and threw him out. It was really an exciting election. Unfortunately, we got the Governator who was owned and operated by the Kennedy family. I have hopes that Californians will throw this government out, too. The sooner the better, but I'm not taking any bets.

[jim nj]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/middleeast/lebanon-salame-economy-collapse-intl/index.html

Lebanon 'days' away from economic collapse if no political solution to protests found, says central bank governor

"Lebanon's banks have been closed since the demonstrations, sparked by a series of proposed austerity measures including a tax on WhatsApp calls, began nearly two weeks ago."

[jim nj]

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/10/28/cal-governor-wants-warren-buffet-buy-pge-blackouts/

Yeah, like Warren really wants to scoop up PG&E
because it fits into his style of value-investing.

The damn company is bankrupt with near limitless liabilities every time it turns the power back on.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Joe continues to bungle
He was asked if taking "fossil fuel" PAC money was ethical

https://100percentfedup.com/joe-biden-in-hot-water-after-comment-to-female-supporter-look-at-my-record-child-look-at-my-record/
Joe Biden In Hot Water After Comment to Female Supporter: “Look at my record, child. Look at my record”

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Conservative guy dates "mattress girl"
I am resolutely avoiding reading the comments ....
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/346707/

[MissMarple2]

I will probably go back to bed, but I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep right now, so here I am.

And what do you know, the President posted on Twitter 4 hours ago, at MIDNIGHT! After all he did yesterday, he was still up. Amazing!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
4h
“Americans know by now that the Impeachment inquiry is just another hoax and silent coup to remove the President from office.” J.J. Crovatto Don’t worry J.J., Schiff is a leaker & corrupt politician who made up what I said on the call in order to hurt the Republican Party & me!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
4h
“There is no underlying crime in that transcript.” @IngrahamAngle
100% correct, and the Whistleblower disappeared after I released the transcript of the call. Where is the Whistleblower? That is why this is now called the Impeachment Hoax! The Do Nothing Dems are Doing Nothing!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
4h
The only crimes in the Impeachment Hoax were committed by Shifty Adam Schiff, when he totally made up my phone conversation with the Ukrainian President and read it to Congress, together with numerous others on Shifty’s side. Schiff should be Impeached, and worse!

[jim nj]

https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/27/our-bankrupt-nomenklatura/

VDH

"Take all the signature brand names that the Baby Boomers inherited from prior generations—Harvard, Yale, the New York Times, NPR, CNN, the Oscars, the NFL, the NBA, the FBI, the CIA, the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, and a host of others. And then ask whether they enhanced or diminished such inheritances?"

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
4h
“This is a big win for America, and also for President Trump.” @nypost

[MissMarple2]

jim nj,

The Victor Davis Hanson article is a ringing indictment of the "elite" and my generation's lack of contribution to the culture.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/28/jim-cramer-those-who-said-trade-war-would-hurt-us-should-apologize.html

I think we have a bunch of financial experts who know about as much as the foreign policy experts.

Which is pretty much nothing.

[MissMarple2]

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/28/how-the-obama-administration-set-in-motion-democrats-coup-against-trump/

This is an excerpt from Lee Smith's book.

[jim nj]

http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/October%202019/USAF-Collecting-Data-for-Potential-X-37-Space-Plane-Replacement.aspx

"In July, then-Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson revealed more details about the OTV, saying it "can do an orbit that looks like an egg and, when it's close to the Earth, it's close enough to the atmosphere to turn where it is." Military.com first reported on her remarks.

"Our adversaries don't know—and that happens on the far side of the Earth from our adversaries—where it's going to come up next. And we know that that drives them nuts. And I'm really glad about that," Wilson said."

I find that interesting. Our adversaries can plot their exposure to our fixed satellites, but not this one that can vary its orbit.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2019/10/28/here-are-the-countries-on-the-brink-of-recession-going-into-2020/#360b1a263017

Guess which country isn't on the list.

Why it's the one led by the Very Stable Genius!

[jim nj]

jim nj,

The Victor Davis Hanson article is a ringing indictment of the "elite" and my generation's lack of contribution to the culture.

Posted by: MissMarple2 | October 29, 2019 at 04:40 AM
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MM, no I think it's not that we didn't contribute, but that these organizations were "captured" or "co-opted" while we weren't looking.

The founders of most of these endowments would be appalled at what their money is being used for nowadays.

[MissMarple2]

Snow is falling across the southern Rockies early this morning and will continue through the day today. Snowfall totals in excess of a half foot are possible along the Front Range for places like Denver before tomorrow morning. pic.twitter.com/vucw78CCZh

— AccuWeather (@breakingweather) October 29, 2019

Map at link.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/uk-world/1006622/tv-star-johnny-ball-says-plants-in-the-ocean-theory-disproves-man-made-climate-change/

"In an interview with The Courier, the 81-year-old said he believes children across the world are being scared unnecessarily by the declaration of a ‘climate crisis’ at a time when millions worldwide have been mobilised by the campaigning of child environmentalist Greta Thunberg."

[MissMarple2]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/giuliani-position-giving-trump-bad-advice-homeland-security/story

Another who left government and got a position lobbing grenades from a news consulting position.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jilliandonfro/2019/10/28/palmer-luckey-anduril-technologies-forbes-under-30-summit/#16f587862d60

“I think that a lot of the employee rebellion angle has been hyped up by executives in Silicon Valley who have a very different motive in mind,” he said on stage at Forbes 30 Under 30 Summit in Detroit. “I think that this narrative that the companies are doing what their employees want is very convenient, because it also happens to be exactly what they need to do to be able to cater to the Chinese market.”

[MissMarple2]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/kanye-wests-conversion-could-be-a-cultural-wrecking-ball/

This is a very interesting article.

[MissMarple2]

Heather
@hrenee80

Why should we care how the Ukraine call made people feel?
Of course it makes the sissies sad. Everything makes the sissies sad.
This entire Trump Presidency has been about hurt feelings.
No one asked me about my feelings when Obama was President.

[MissMarple2]

https://cbs4indy.com/2019/10/28/family-of-hoosier-killed-by-isis-reacts-to-death-of-groups-leader/

Peter Kassig was a North Central high school graduate from Indianapolis.

[henry]

Re snow...have a dusting here this morning.

[jim nj]

I've been trying to understand the reversal in the Covington kids lawsuit.

The judge knocked out 30 allegations, but re-instituted 3.

All are statements of the Indian, Mr. Phillips, that the WaPo published.

They were false and defamatory. The WaPo went with them. Did they have a responsibility to verify them before reporting them?

I'm having some trouble with this. Spoken word is slander, right? Printed word is libel, right?

If you don't verify the facts behind the slander is the libel your own?

[MissMarple2]

jim nj,

I have absolutely no idea. Maybe clarice or one of the other legal people can explain it.

[MissMarple2]

I am going to lie down for a bit.

No doubt the President will post while I am gone.

henry, you are on duty!

[jim nj]

Is the issue that the WaPo, and others, should have known of the Indian's background and prior false statements? I think yes, as those facts came out later.

The discovery phase could be interesting. When did the WaPo know that it's original reporting was wrong? I can't remember what they did, but a retraction and apology would be better than a, "We stand by our sources."

[jim nj]

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/the-isis-caliph-is-dead-but-who-was-protecting-him/

Turkey?

[jim nj]

nytol

[henry]

new

[Another Bob]

“retraction and apology”

The retraction is one of the biggest cons in “journalism”. It isn’t possible to unring the bell. It doesn’t cost the “journalist” nor his employer anything, and it never makes the victim of the false reporting whole. There needs to be a real cost to getting it wrong.

The WaPo “reporting” (spit) about Sandmann and Nathan Phillips (note you hardly ever hear that liar’s name) was criminally wrong. For every legal protection “journalism” gets, there ought to be a more stringent legal standard applied. Instead, the opposite happens - the legal protection produces more lies. Bertelsman only brought back three of 33 false statements WaPo made.

[Jane]

"The important thing is if the crazy laws are enforced. Here in Placer county the crazy ones are not."

The problem with that stuff is you can get targeted. The dems are very good with that. Of course that stuff happens everywhere of you are on the 'wrong' side.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

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