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October 27, 2019

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Another Bob

“ $150K and $200K per year. That's pretty good for a four-year degree”

Yes it is, but that’s California prices.

Buckeye

The first time I went with my wife to a Lutheran Church I looked in vain for the confession part of their liturgy. When I was told it wasn't there I thought "unpossible". It wasn't the only disconnect.

CH

Come to Columbus and go to our Lutheran church some time.

We have a general confession at the beginning of every service.

In my case, I probably need it every day:)

Jack is Back!

MR,

Bullshit. I never said I was the final word on the catechism, although I have been exposed to it since my first grade in Cathollic school. All the way to 12th grade. So don't lecture me on my Catholic faith. You constantly think you are the final arbiter of Catholicism. But you are not.

Too many examples of those not Catholic receiving communion from unsuspecting preists. Give it a break. You are not the only Catholic here unlike you belieeve you are. What a disingenuous comment.

BTW,. the priest invited everyone who wanted to receive communion to come up.

Priests are stupid at times. Of course, you have never seen that. I have many times.

D

Katie Hill is a perfect example of the type weird unqualified people crazy Californians and nutty New Yorkers are electing to Congress
Remember that Massie guy that was touching people inappropriately.
If a person had a relationship with s subordinate in the business world, many times they would be fired.
Taking pictures is the stupid part of this according to Greg Gutfield.

Captain Hate

Golden State might not make the playoffs even if Thompson effectively comes back. Losing Durant and Iguodala are huge losses and when Draymond loses a step, which may have begun last season, his entire game will drop off a cliff. Curry will still have some fantastic games and Thompson can go on torrid streaks but #44 hasn't run the show since they got Durant, and it's starting to show.

D

I have to admit I have never seen that at any Catholic Church I have attended.
You are the one who thinks he is the catholic expert here not me.
I have been a practicing Catholic my entire life.
I don’t stop because something the Pope says or does bothers me.
Parish priests or the diocese can surprise me sometimes with their decisions but the people are the church not the representatives.
We can argue all night but I believe we are both strong in our faith and our love for Jesus Christ.

Captain Hate

Buckeye,

The Lutheran Church has so many synods, is it possible that some don't have a confession?

MissMarple2

Bill Kristol is mentally unfit to have a twitter account. This may be his most pathetic and cringeworthy tweet of all time.
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Another Bob

“You are not the final word on the catechism of the Catholic Church.”

Neither are you D.

So long as the person is respectful, and it sounds like JIBs friend was, priests probably care the least about this.

Communion is important to the Catholic receiving it, not the onlookers.

Buckeye

The Lutheran Church has so many synods, is it possible that some don't have a confession?

I am sure that is true.

Our church also has a more "casual" alternative service that is attended by mostly younger families with kids. Probably generally more liberal as well. I don't think confession is part of their service every week.

The service we go to is the most "traditional".

At least it isn't in German like it was when Mrs. Buckeye was a little girl:)

Jack is Back!

AB and MR,

My point is that the priest has no idea who is Catholic and in grace to receive communion unless he is very visible agnostic like Biden. Anyone can receive commioun if they want. Even Pope John Paul II was duped twice.

MR, I will bet that in your church those not Catholic or not in grace have recived communion without the preist noing it.

Jack is Back!

...noing s/b Knowing....

DrJ

AB,

Yes it is, but that’s California prices.

One is (Peninsula/Silicon Valley), the other is in Seattle. Not cheap places, but software as a business does pay well. Product cycle times are short, and software sure is a lot more predictable than biology.

D

JIB
Then that is on them .

clarice

Tom R, Flynn has not withdrawn his plea so Judge sullivan has two options:he can sentence Flynn or he can accept Powell's argument and throw out the case and begin contempt proceedings againt the dOJ and FBI wrongdoers.

D

Another Bob:
Are you catholic?
If not your opinion means nothing to me.
I never said I was the final word.
You put that label on me.
You always put your oar in when I make a comment.
Why is that.
I also sense an animosity toward me in your posts.

Jane

This is not intended to be a rude question: but why don’t you people in CA move?

GUS

Practice makes perfect Maryrose!!!

Jack is Back!

MR
You bring it on yourself with your unqualified piety of every subject. You act as if you are the only Catholic here. You are not. In fact, you are not a very knowlegeable Catholic. If I was you, I woulld think twice about challenging other Catholics as to their beliefs.

You are the only Catholic I have ever interfaced with who challenged my faith and promoted your's as superior. Look into your soul. You are not the final word.

D

Another Bob:
As long as a person is respectful?
That is not the criteria for receiving communion in the Catholic Church.
Where did you get that erroneous idea?

MissMarple2

Rasmussen Reports
@Rasmussen_Poll

17% of #Democrats Identify More With #Trump... http://bit.ly/2Jq4hKv #BreakingPoll

D

I didn’t want to do this but you struck out first.
Are you currently practicing your faith or are you still pouting because they closed your son’s school and didn’t listen to your plan to try and save it?

DrJ

Jane,

For me, I have a great business setup that would be hard to duplicate elsewhere. I have networks for lawyers/accountants/bookkeepers that would have to be replaced; I have deep connections to the local research University. I am starting to know the venture capital community.

All that would have to be replaced, and that takes time. I don't have the time.

Now I live in the most conservative county in the state. The county people all have been great to work with -- that would not be the case in Silicon Valley, for example.

We also are close to our adult granddaughter, and that matters.

So for now CA is fine in spite of the expense and state b*llsh*t. If/when I sell the business, we will reevaluate.

GUS

Jack, my former pastor was quoted in the Milwaukee Urinal as saying that he would deny the EUCHARIST to anyone in his parish, whom he KNEW, did not attend Mass regularly. For a Priest to refuse to give the Eucharist to someone he knows NOTHING ABOUT, is a dangerous operation. I have seen your knowledge of Catholicism. I too am quite knowledgable on the subject.

Captain Hate

RIP Paul Barrere: Little Feat guitarist who was an excellent counterpoint to Lowell George's slide playing. Although not an original member of the group (I just found out Richie Hayward died in 2010) he was added when they reformed the group for Dixie Chicken (I wonder if they knew or suspected Roy Estrada of being a really sick pervert) and was in the group when I first saw them.

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/paul-barrere-dead-dies-little-feat-guitarist-1203384865/

Jack is Back!

MR,

Frederick goes to the most highly ranked Catholic boarding school in America. I go to church every Sunday and receive communion there. Yes, I am stil pouting about a disingenous Bishop who is an Asshole. Bishops can be that especially this one. The School is still there empty and no buyer. So what was the point.

Again you believe in the infalliability of Bishops and Priests, It only pertains to the Pope and only on matters of the faith, not global warming or immigration.

D

JIB:
Have you taught theology or PSR
I am am sure you have done PSR.
Have you participated in high school retreats for over 30 years?
I don’t think so.
Have I done engineering in my career?
No therefore I don’t mock you for your expertise.
You believe you are the most experienced poster here and the one who always has a I can top your story post.
Hint:
It gets annoying after a while.

D

JIB:
You are misinformed.
I believe in the infallibility of the Pope only.
You are again stating things about me that are untrue.

MissMarple2

https://thedcpatriot.com/sun-looks-like-flaming-jack-o-lantern-in-new-nasa-photo-released-for-halloween/

Yes, it does. I am not one to find it neat, but rather creepy. Photo at the link.

D

Gus:
I think you are more knowledgeable than JIB.

D

I also know it only applies to faith and morals.
That is what I was taught.

D

I am also not challenging other people wrt their beliefs.
I am stating my own experience as a Catholic.
Stop twisting my words .Take a lesson from this past Sunday’s readings and be more like the tax collector and less like the Pharisee.

MissMarple2

This is a thread showing enhanced audio for the booing at last night's game by certain networks:

https://twitter.com/cooperworley2/status/1188881777076637705

GUS

I doubt that Maryrose. I see nothing that Jack has posted that isn't accurate. Your view is personal.

Captain Hate

Miss Marple,

I find pictures like that of the sun interesting because it points out what a dynamic star it is and if the public understood that better they might not fixate on minute changes of quantities of a trace gas in the atmosphere as causing the climate to change.

Jack is Back!

Annoying you maryrose,? Your schtick is getting boring.. Have I been on retreats? Share with me your expertise in Catholicism I don't have? Please. Is it teaching Cathecism for kids going into communion? Done that. Is it being a Lector or Eucharistic Minister that gets me qualified. I am both, How about you?

It is none of your business how I express my faith. You seem to think there is some kind of standard Catholics must observe to be faithful. There isn't.

You really are the kind of Catholic most observing Catholics can't stand because of your qualification to be Catholic. Stop it. From now on I will not respond. In fact, you embody the worst in my religion by questioning it.

GUS

Maryrose, you and I have discussed this a few times before......to this date one of THEEEE most important things my Son has experienced and LOVED, is being part of, and then leading SEVERAL KAIROS retreats. It changed him.

Jane

Dr J,

I totally get it. I didn’t move while I was working either. Now that my costs of living are 1/4 of what they were in MA, it occurs to me, I was getting screwed. There are downsides: the doctors suck; it’s hot etc. but IMO worth it. And MA was nothing compared to. CA. Still I get it. It’s a hard thing.

MissMarple2

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/22/the-real-experts-on-climate-change-advise-presiden/

This has a list of people advising the President on climate, and none of them are Norwegian high school girls.

Jack is Back!

GUS .

Frederick goes on an Emmaus retreat in a few weeks. He is looking forward to it. We had to write love letters to him to be read duiring the retreas. A fun thing to do.

Jack is Back!

Test

D

Y s Jack I am currently a Eucharistic minister, just like you.
Yes I have taught theology classes to high school students.
I have given witnesses on Kairos retreats,
I have done regular retreats since the 70’s
How like you to play can you top this.
I can match you in all this.
I have prayer services at the Normandy Nursing Home in the 90,s.
I am not questioning your faith.
I am merely stating what the basic Catholic beliefs are as I understand them.
You made it personal.
I wish your son Frederick all good experience on his Emmaus retreat.
The letters are an important part. Next year he will be eligible to be a leader.

MissMarple2

Captain Hate,

I like pictures of the Sun, too Do you remember that GE program which debuted when we were kids, "Our Mr. Sun"? That's where I first learned about sunspots, although I am sure most of it is outdated now.

I got into a discussion about weather/climate and how opinions have changed over the last 40 years with my sister the democrat, who of course has all the mainstream media hogwash memorized.

I finally told her that if she wanted to see the real statistics, she could find them, but I wasn't going to get in an argument. I did tell her that we would have a colder winter this year with more snow, so be prepared.

D

Gus:
My niece returned from hers a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it.

Jack is Back!

Test!

MissMarple2

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7622565/Donald-Trumps-decision-withdraw-troops-Syria-jeopardised-Baghdadi-mission.html

This entire story is BS because it is all based on reporting what the New York Times says, based on unnamed Pentagon officials.

So, basically, third hand gossip which, for all we know, could be entirely made up!

Captain Hate

Our Mr. Sun sounds familiar, Miss Marple. I remember seeing something that showed huge solar flares that should have disabused anyone of thinking that the sun's output was constant and unchanging.

Obviously NASA is monitoring this constantly and could pipe up instead of staying silent and letting the usual suspects be bloviating asses. Of course when you depend on them for your funding there's a problem.

Jack is Back!

MR,

Despite your quals, you are still a PITA with yoiur goody-gooo-two-shoes approach to otther Catholics. I have never met someone like you in any church or community I have ever belongid to.

I wish you well but give up your aovery santicmontious representation. You are now where more Catholic than the rats in the sanctuary.

MissMarple2

Rebecca Kaplan
@RebeccaRKaplan

Speaker Pelosi, asked by @AlexNBCNews
to comment on the impeachment resolution:

“It’s not an impeachment resolution.”
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Luke Thompson
@ltthompso
·
1h
She doesn’t have the votes.

Narciso

The sun is 55 times our diameter and 330,000 times our mass, arrogance that we can influence things to any degree is incredible.

MissMarple2

Captain Hate,

I found it on You Tube! My memory is off, it was presented by Bell Telephone.

Directed by Frank Capra!

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfomqnif34

DrJ

Jane,

On top of it, our real estate costs are very low owing to MrsJ having bought a real fixer 30 years ago. It is not paid for, but we pay less than what rent would be on a very low-end studio. And we have four buildings on the property.

Taxes are another matter. At least CalFire and the county sheriffs are very good.

Jane

DrJ,

I wonder what you would spend for the same thing somewhere else? Not encouraging you at all, but CA scares the shit out of me. Cost is only one element.

MissMarple2

President Donald Trump tells supporters that Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is ‘dead as a doornail’ https://t.co/h0F6o760vn pic.twitter.com/eJf0wTHtu8

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 28, 2019

First link goes to story, second link goes to video. "Dead as a doornail" works just fine for me!

Jack is Back!

Ryan Fitzpatrick the most underrated QB in football. Dolphins up 14-0 at Pittsburgh.

MissMarple2

https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/utility-says-power-lines-may-have-started-2-california-fires

There is dispute about this on Twitter. I have no idea.

Narciso

It really does seen dangerous to atay in california with this criminally irresponsible governance.

DrJ

Jane,

We have a pretty unique property. Two of the four outbuildings I use for my company and its lab. It is hard to find a comparable property elsewhere. I'm sure they exist, but they are hard to find.

We are in a comparatively low-cost part of the state. Elsewhere? Depends on the location, I suppose. Austin TX would probably cost more; FL would be less.

Every part of the country has its disasters. The Bay Area has earthquakes (we don't get them here). Others have hurricanes like you do or tornadoes. Much of the Midwest in addition gets terrible lake-effect snowfalls. AZ gets flash floods and dust storms in addition to terribly hot weather. We have fire, and you have warning about that.

No place is perfect.

clarice

So we're off theological disputes now. Good. Let's get back to what we are good at mean-spirited snarky political discussions %6^)

MissMarple2

What are the odds: Both Rachel Maddow and Cindy McCain wearing boots in public recently.

Is there more than meets the eye? pic.twitter.com/m0nwl271Op

— Shirtless Pundit 🇺🇸 (@zachhaller) October 29, 2019

Photos at the link. Cue spooky music....

Jack is Back!

Tripping over their lies and exaggerations?

The Infamous Ignatz

So Katie Hill resigned from congress because someone committed a cyber crime agin her?
Slutty AND stupid. A deadly combo.

Jack is Back!

Iggy,

What corner of Cal did she Represent?

henry

Visiting California? I’d wear muck boots... but I’m more interested in function than style.

MissMarple2

Just because he looks like one of those old guy Muppets is no reason to think Bernie Sanders is a nice guy:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/sanders-tells-black-student-he-should-respect-police-to-avoid-being-gunned-down/

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Interesting. Lancaster is gearing up as a marijuana cultivation center.

California's 25th congressional district is a congressional district in the U.S. state of California that covers part of northern Los Angeles County and part of eastern Ventura County. It includes the cities of Santa Clarita, Simi Valley, Palmdale, Lancaster, and the northern part of the San Fernando Valley. The incumbent Representative Katie Hill announced her resignation October 27, 2019. There is some question when the resignation takes effect.

The Infamous Ignatz

I think she in North LA or someplace down south Jack.

JM Hanes

Miss Marple:

"Dead as a doornail." I must say I prefer "Deader 'n a doornail," myself, but I won't quibble.

The Infamous Ignatz

Never mind. :)

The Infamous Ignatz

I was always partial to dead as a hammer.

The Infamous Ignatz

Katie certainly represented Simi Valley appropriately.

Jack is Back!

Isn’t that part of the metro LA more conservative?

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Jane I left you at message at the JOM FB page.

MissMarple2

A thread about the corruption and incompetence of PG&E, the California Electric Regulatory Commission, the legislature and other entities by an irate Californian:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1188466346675167232.html

PS: Does Gavin Newsome still have an open presidential campaign?

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Dead as roadkill n just as splattered. ;)

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

We're stuck in CA a while, I think.
Mrs JimNorCal is still working and the last child entered 9th grade this year. We also own a couple of properties that we rent out and need to keep an eye on. We've talked of moving along in 4 years when the Short One leaves for college.

Speaking of properties reminds me of OL. I remember him telling us about his kids describing their father's job as "he spends a lot of time on the phone calling plumbers" or some such. Love that story :) :)

Narciso

Heh, well i think the value of the Word is more important than doctrinal disputes that have diluted its power certainly over the last half century if not millenia.

Buckeye

Iggy

Is the propane generator hanging in there?

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Where is OL?????

Jack is Back!

Off to bed.

Slaap lekker tot morgen.

Narciso

Gah do they ever get a clue:


https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1188980732007473152

Narciso

Life imitates art:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexanderMcCoy4/status/1188955029178408960

Narciso

They are like mushrooms arent they


https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1188976326927114243

MissMarple2

This morning MARINE ONE was wheels down in Chicago. pic posted by Dan Scavino. pic.twitter.com/1dXhzwabJq

— 45 🇺🇸 (@TheTrumpPage1) October 29, 2019

Cool picture of Marine One in front of the Chicago Skyline at the link.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Jane: "This is not intended to be a rude question: but why don’t you people in CA move?"

KK makes the point: why do WE have to move?
Why can't we stay, and fight to take it back?

The Infamous Ignatz

We're not quite done with the theological stuff clarice, because I've actually had a go round with my pastor a time or two on this.
This is what the bible says about communion; Christ makes his pronouncement about it being His body and blood and to take it in remembrance of Him. Paul notes in 1 Corinthians that certain members had been taking it in an unworthy manner; drinking up all the wine and eating all the bread like a bunch of stupid gluttons with no spiritual intent or understanding to the purpose of the act. He therefore admonished believers to examine themselves to make sure they were not likewise ignoring the spiritual purpose of communion.
That's it.
There is no talk of anyone being unworthy by virtue of their sin, confessed or unconfessed, or anyone being unqualified because they go to the wrong church. If you're a believer you take communion, Period. Everything else is the addition of human doctrine.
Christ died on the cross, once, for all and His work was then "finished". His grace covers my sins; past, present and future. I do not fall from grace anew each time I sin. Nor is my salvation restored when I repent, because it was never lost. I am made righteous at the moment of my salvation and remain so, because it is the righteousness of Christ covering me, not my own good deeds which are of no value in this respect.
More importantly it is when I am at my weakest and most in need that I more than ever need that connection to Christ which is why Hebrews 4 says;
"For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need."

I'm familiar with Catholic doctrine regarding who may take it and I disagree with it, of course, since I'm not Catholic.
I tend to agree with the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation, or at least the mystery of it, because He didn't say these are symbols of my body and blood, as most Protestants hold. He said they are my body and blood.
I also disagree with most Protestant doctrine on the subject since it has misinterpreted Paul's caveat in 1 Corinthians on examining oneself beforehand. It is widely viewed as having to first make oneself righteous or worthy enough to receive communion. Neither Christ directly, nor Paul indirectly says or implies that and it is in any event contrary to the universal doctrine of righteousness in Christendom.
That's my two cents.
If you disagree take it up with our High Priest, whom you can boldly approach. :)

Melinda

Steph-

OL is on a self-imposed time out, yet also awaiting a hard drive from me. Speaking of over due tasks....

The Infamous Ignatz

--Iggy

Is the propane generator hanging in there?--

Yes and no, Buckeye. Had an episode this afternoon. Finally figured out the choke is screwy which was messing with the governor every time a load came on line. The solution was super high tech. I put a vise grip on the air cleaner to keep the choke from moving too far. Problem solved.
A half hour later the power came back on.
But they're saying it's definitely going off again tomorrow. I was actually surprised they restored it at all since the Red Flag starts at 8AM tomorrow morning.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Hero dog gives statement, about one minute.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Thomas_Firenze/status/1188927185970749447

The Infamous Ignatz

--Isn’t that part of the metro LA more conservative?--

Yeah, she beat a Republican in 18.

Narciso

Wells that the trick, isnt it, how does one prove one self worthy, 'not be guilty of thr body and blood of jesus chrisr'

MissMarple2

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/28/vindman-testimony-trump-national-security-000305

A senior White House official plans to tell House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that he believed President Donald Trump undermined U.S. national security when he urged Ukraine’s president to investigate his political rivals, according to a copy of his opening statement obtained by POLITICO.
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So what? Who cares what he BELIEVED? So, he had a different opinion. A bunch of those people in the Senate and House signed that objection to the Syrian withdrawal.

Then we got Al-Baghdaddi.

Opinion differences aren't illegal.

The guy's name is Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, and I bet no one has heard of him until Schiff needed someone to be a witness.

Pfft.

Narciso

Christ, that half hour survey of the bible made me think, man rebelled against god, not merely cause of the serpent because hr wanted to, man killed his brother, stained the earth with other sins that required the flood, for a time obeyed the covenant, but ultimately strayed, even when the rules were made crystal clear on mt sinai, withim a few generations they strayed again.

Narciso

Ah well thats an old card the played as far as the mining of haiphong harbor and iran contra.

Narciso

Im referring to the time of judges, in the last instance, this would lead to the subjugation of the kingdoms of the north and south by assyria and babylon.

The Infamous Ignatz

--"This is not intended to be a rude question: but why don’t you people in CA move?"--

Some of my family came out before the Gold Rush even started. My mom's mom could remember coming out later as a little girl in a covered wagon from Kansas.
Why should I leave this state because a bunch of East coast pencil necks moved out here to create third world shitholes in their blue hea-VONNS? I should leave because a couple of pinko googles and a thieving little Data with a bad haircut moved into Palo Alto or because a third rate Don Draper is now our gubnuh?
FTS, as CH would say.
The vast majority of the geographic area of CA is as red as Idaho.
And since I am of the opinion that there is no political solution to our current national crisis I'm perfectly willing to wait until the creeps who wrecked this state can be driven out of it or buried under it; their choice.

Buckeye

Not to mention Vindman was born in Ukraine.

He was basically a translator.

Narciso

Hes properly credentialed harvard binghamton et al, was the hamdover from ciaremella his linked in is sketchy.

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/10/28/melania-trump-celebrates-halloween-in-groovy-michael-kors-trench-coat/

Lots of great pictures, not only of Melania but the President and the kids, including a fairy princess and an elaborate Tyrannosaurus rex!

Narciso

It just strikes me history in that region did not begin 2018, closer to 2014.

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