Trouble For Trump

This Sondland testimony doesn't sound as bad as the headline but its not helpful for Trump.

And another brutal poll, this time from Gallup, showing a slim majority in favor of "Impeach/Remove". The increase is driven by Democrats and Independents, but still.

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[James D.]

“But still” nothing!

Dishonestly sampled polls, reported breathlessly by discredited MSM spokesmodels, about a fake “inquiry” that has not actually been voted on by the House, investigating non-crimes, and you’re cheering it on, RM?

You’re smarter than that, aren’t you?

[MissMarple2]

Zach C. Cohen
@Zachary_Cohen

Spotted in the Senate basement: actor Sam Waterston
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Just what we needed: more Hollywood.

[Melinda]

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-UES) to chair Oversight.

(Shhh, don't talk about her medical issues...)

[Dave (in MA)]

James D., well, he got somebody to actually comment on the thread topic instead of launching right into an off-topic open thread, but still.

[Captain Hate]

The Club For Growth is not on the Romney band wagon.

News: Club for Growth going up with TV ads calling Romney a "Democrat secret asset" who is "'plotting to take down President Trump with impeachment"

. . . .

"Slick, slippery, stealthy: Mitt Romney had us fooled. Posing as Republican, he tried to infiltrate Trump's administration as Secretary of State," says the commercial, referring to the president's past consideration of Romney to be his secretary of state.

"Now his cover's blown - exposed by news reports as a Democrat secret asset," the ad's narrator says. "Sources say Romney's plotting to take down President Trump with impeachment."

The commercial concludes with a call to action.

"Tell Romney, quit colluding with Democrats on impeachment," the narrator says, as the senator's office phone number flashes on the screen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October

[Melinda]

I'm sorry. There are "topics"?

[MissMarple2]

I’m no expert but even I can see it’s not the same signature ! Nice try Adam ! https://t.co/foK5P4CWVD

— Stephen kravchuk (@stevenkravchuk) October 17, 2019

Link goes to a tweet which has screen caps of subpoenas. Perhaps they have added FORGERY to their list of crimes.

[MissMarple2]

MSNBC
@MSNBC
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11m
JUST IN: President Trump orders American flags in the US and around the world lowered to half-staff in honor of the late Rep. Elijah Cummings.

[henry]

Sondland Testimony? Is a transcript of the full 9 hours available? Or is this Schiff's [anal] leakeage?

[Melinda]

Same "Opening Statement" that CNN was pumping.

Use NaCl at your own recommended levels.

[henry]

Today in progland:

Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
1h

Black staffer at Madison's West High School FIRED for telling black student to stop calling him a N*****. This is so stupid it hurts my brain. You can't even parody this stuff. madison.com/wsj/news/local…

https://twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1184851309138190337

[jimmyk]

Shhh, don't talk about her medical issues...

Mel, I first thought your "pneu" at the end of the last thread was a whispered "pneumonia."

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/cummings-wife-irs-complaint/

Additional charges of self-dealing and perjury.

[Melinda]

Just phunning.

Sidney Powell’s up and running:

https://twitter.com/sidneypowell1/status/1184862937942495232?s=21

[MissMarple2]

Michael Tracey
@mtracey
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US officials deceiving the public with a false pledge of no “boots on the ground” in Syria, only for thousands of ground troops to be deployed (and sustain casualties) was never treated as a scandal. Only when those “boots” are removed does the media cry scandal

[Melinda]

MM-

That's from June, I almost bit on it myself, earlier.

[Narciso]

Right, thats why he told taylor and volker to go dark

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

Daggone it! Sorry!

[Jim Eagle]

40 minutes out of ISP at 35K feet, 600 MPH ground speed. Good flight. Mrs. JiB picking me up and we drive up to Canterbury for parents weekend topped off with the Homecoming football game against Berkshire Saturday. Frederick gets to come home with us for 3 days.

[MissMarple2]

Bluto Retweeted
TheLastRefuge
@TheLastRefuge2
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1h
Pelosi is lying. She's not engaged on any discussions on the USMCA. Completely lying. 100% Lying.

She's waiting to see if Trudeau can win re-election Oct 21st.

If Trudeau wins, she'll quash USMCA until after 2020 U.S. election.

If Trudeau loses, she'll bring USMCA to vote.

[Melinda]

Doral for the G-7?

Trolling!

[Narciso]

Obviously a whiffle:

https://mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1184849430425542656

[henry]

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
11s

Latest: UAW says tentative 4-year deal to end GM strike includes faster path to permanent status, ratification bonus of $11,000 but 3 plants would close including Lordstown.

[henry]

In their faces.

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
5m

BREAKING: Trump picks his own hotel complex, Trump National Doral in Miami, to host the G7 meeting in June.

[MissMarple2]

😎
MAGA in this upside-down world
@TRUMPUSAMAGAKAG

Mulvaney announces the G7 will be at President Trump's Doral golf resort in Florida. (Master trolling underway.)
🤣
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I think he's trying to get a couple of them to stroke out. You KNOW they will carry on like this is the worst thing ever.

Personally, I am glad because I trust his people more than some unknown people at a Hilton or other hotel/resort.

[Melinda]

I wonder who this could be:

https://twitter.com/headsnipe011/status/1184873656763244544?s=21

(Senior FBI official not candid about intimate relationship with subordinate.)

[MissMarple2]

(((DeanObeidallah)))
@DeanObeidallah
It's garbage attacks like this by Trump on Rep Cummings that Twitter allowed on its platform that causes pain and even can make medical conditions worse by causing stress- and now it's even worse given Rep Cummings has passed. #RIPElijah #RestinPower

Quoted tweet below:

Quote Tweet
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· Jul 28
If racist Elijah Cummings would focus more of his energy on helping the good people of his district, and Baltimore itself, perhaps progress could be made in fixing the mess that he has helped to create over many years of incompetent leadership. His radical “oversight” is a joke!
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I TOLD you guys they would start blaming him for Cummings' death.

[Melinda]

Prof Maggie’s a bit more precise:

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland/status/1184864408650080256?s=21

[Narciso]

Sonuds likr blindspot was right on the nose.

Now if he could have the fee donated ti the treasury they would plotz (i think thats the term of art)

[henry]

Cummings would have been healthier if he used less cocaine.

Two can play at that game.

[MissMarple2]

Secretary Scalia
@SecGeneScalia

Heading to Texas with @POTUS
to highlight the revival of American manufacturing and investments in American workers. Texas has added 725,600 new jobs since January 2017 – including 68,900 new manufacturing jobs. #MadeInAmerica

[henry]

Pope Che to the white courtesy phone.

Bree A Dail @breeadail
8m

#BREAKING: Italian media, @espressonline has dropped a bombshell report of "serious indications of embezzlement, fraud, abuse of office, money laundering and self-laundering" in the #Vatican. Link to Italian articles, below. English translation:

https://twitter.com/breeadail/status/1184875089206140930

[Tom R]

Seems to me the flustered behavior of Pelosi, Schumer and Hoyer after their meeting yesterday between Trump indicates they were the ones who had a meltdown. The signal that caught my attention the most was when they mentioned Trump pointed out they were supporting the Communist Kurds (PKK faction) in Syria which they should be familiar with (or words to that effect).

Perhaps this is just the optimist in me clouding my judgment but to me I interpret that Communist comment of Trump's to be a sign that he is several chess moves ahead of them and the Democrats know Trump is on the offensive. How many rational 2020 voters will side with Trump once they learn that the Democrats (and a few neocon Republicans) are criticizing Trump for not protecting Communist terrorists in Syria?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/iran-claims-have-video-evidence-oil-tanker-attacks

Israel, Suadi Arania, and the US.

[Narciso]

Well he showed the picture, she looked like lucille bluth or mallory archer.

[Narciso]

I dont agree with communists obviously but it you're a kurd or even half and the us is allied with the turks and iran anc halfway with iraq, who do you trust.

[James D.]

How many rational 2020 voters will side with Trump

How many rational voters are there?

[Narciso]

Not a rhetorical question?

[Captain Hate]

Apparently the cable shows are praising Elijah Cummings for helping pass the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

He was twelve years old.
Posted by: t-bird at October 17, 2019 01:14 PM (dBiBP)

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

An older couple was lying in bed one night. The husband was falling asleep, but the wife felt romantic and wanted to talk.
She said, "You used to hold my hand when we were courting."
Wearily he reached across, held her hand for a second, and tried to get back to sleep. A few moments later she said, "Then you used to kiss me."
Mildly irritated, he reached across, gave her a peck on the cheek and settled down to sleep.
Thirty seconds later she said. "Then you use to bite my neck."
"Angrily, he threw back the bed clothes and got out of bed."
"Where are you going?" she asked.

"To get my teeth!"

[Captain Hate]

How many rational voters are there?

Quite a few. I know it's standard ledge behavior to act like Gaylord's two terms are evidence of a national retardation while ignoring the dogshit candidates the GOP shoveled in our direction.

I don't bet against the country being Reagan's shining city. Ever.

[James D.]

As an ultimate-level troll move, maybe President Trump should issue a pardon to Cummings' wife.

We all know she'll never see jail time for her corruption and thievery anyway, but the MSM would have to cover it and explain what she was being pardoned for.

[Captain Hate]

Now that's a troll move, James.

[henry]

Especially if it was a conditional pardon requiring refunding ill gotten gains.

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
5m

Great news out of Turkey. News Conference shortly with @VP and @SecPompeo. Thank you to @RTErdogan. Millions of lives will be saved!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--And another brutal poll...--

Almost as brutal as the ones that had Hillary up 10 points.
And how many of those who are in favor of impeachment are so because they think it hurts the Dems? I am.

[henry]

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
15s

BREAKING: VP Pence says U.S. and Turkey have agreed to a ceasefire in Syria CNBC.com/id/106187828

[henry]

That trolls the entire deep state / neocon cabal.

[jimmyk]

I'm sure there's a majority supporting impeachment of a President with ~50% approval. /sarc

[jimmyk]

From that Zerohedge piece: "Iran has claimed that it has footage of last week’s attack on its oil tanker while off the Saudi Arabian Jeddah port, and it proves that the attacks were carried out by Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United States."

I hope that's true.

[Sandy Daze]

I'll see your
...another brutal poll...
and raise you a
Trump is on his way to an easy win in 2020, according to Moody’s accurate election model

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/moodys-trump-on-his-way-to-an-easy-2020-win-if-economy-holds-up.html

[henry]

jimmyk, that Iran had cameras in position tells me it was more of an own goal type thing.

[Sandy Daze]

BTW - if you haven't watched AG William Barr's speech at ND Law School last Friday,

MOST STRONGLY RECOMMENDED:

https://youtu.be/tMa3nmVPcy8

MAGA-KAG

[Melinda]

She may already possess one, but not from DJT.

[James D.]

She may already possess one, but not from DJT.

All the more reason to do it. Then the MSM would have to report on the preexisting pardon and who gave it to her and why.

He totally needs to do it.

[Tom R]

How many rational voters are there?

IMO significantly more than the 63+ million that existed in 2016.

[MissMarple2]

PlayTheTrumpCard
@PlaysTrumpCard
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump

@VP
and 2 others
Ceasefire declared by Turkey, no further sanctions against Turkey as long as ceasefire holds.
US will move the Kurds out of area, and Turkey will create safezone at the border to resettle displaced Syrians.

SO great job on your little pre-planned walkout @SpeakerPelosi
⬅️
3rd Rate

[Jane]

Tom R,

I agree with you.

[Jane]

I love the pardon idea for the political affect but I hate the thought of her getting off. (Hell she probably will never be prosecuted.)

[MissMarple2]

Comments from random rational voters on my twitter feed:

Lindsey Graham can sit down and shut the f**k up unless he wants to do his job and push back on the Democrats attempted coup of our duly elected President.
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Obama has and is actually interfering in Foreign Elections..

The Bidens have actually earned billions from Foreign Governments.

But dammit, we’re gonna get President @realDonaldTrump
on something, anything even if we have to make it up.

They are FOOLS.
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18 years, thousands of US soldiers’ funerals, hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths, millions of refugees, and trillions of dollars later, both of Bush’s wars are still dragging on and he has the audacity to say this.
🤦‍♂️
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/stat
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Who wrote that for Bush?

Isolationist? Who slapped Kim? Who slapped Xi? Who slapped Mexico? ...while Obama and Bush trembled in shadow of powerful figures. Trump just slapped them w/ $1000 bills, not bullets. Works for me.

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
4m

This deal could NEVER have been made 3 days ago. There needed to be some “tough” love in order to get it done. Great for everybody. Proud of all!

[James D.]

Jane, I hate the idea of her going free, too - but a DC area or Baltimore jury wouldn't convict her in a million years.

So might as well at least score some political points and make some MSM heads explode.

[MissMarple2]

henry,

Remember that state department guy who resigned and carried on about how he had NEVER read a letter to a foreign leader like that? He had been a career guy for something like 37 years.

[MissMarple2]

Rand Paul blocked the resolution against Trump in the Senate.

[henry]

Miss M, 37 years? That's a lot of cocktail parties.

[henry]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
39s

This is a great day for civilization. I am proud of the United States for sticking by me in following a necessary, but somewhat unconventional, path. People have been trying to make this “Deal” for many years. Millions of lives will be saved. Congratulations to ALL!

[Dave (in MA)]

Are they specifically linking him to the 1964 act? There was a 2004 Civil Rights Act that he was involved with.

[Captain Hate]

The State Department careerists must be ready for Jonestown 2.

Drink the koolaid, tools...

[Tom R]

If you enjoy reading Democrats who comprehend the dire straits their party is in then read this oped.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/466188-democrats-have-reason-to-worry-after-the-last-presidential-debate

[Melinda]

I’d venture “elites” support is far less than even the skeptics think after three days of Barcelona riots and a host of UK “yobs” tanking spoiled brat “Existentialists” off of trains so they can go to home in peace. I know in Spain, 30% unemployment gives a person a LOT of time to think about that predicament and its causes.

Brussels has created itself a nice little situation.

[henry]

The crook is the sane one?

Joe Biden @JoeBiden
1d

Let’s put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.

Where do the other 8 months come from? Your paycheck. #DemDebate

[Tom R]

Perhaps my 4D Chess confirmation bias is kicking in but I am willing to bet anyone here a six pack of beer that Trump and Erdogan had this kerfuffle all gamed out and agreed upon long before the actual events took place this past week. Both leaders get something they want out of the agreement which is a classic Trump Art of the Deal negotiation tactic.

[Captain Hate]

Anybody tired of winning?

[hrtshpdbox]

Me three, Tom R and Jane. Just like he knew what he was doing in 2016 when he campaigned in Wisconsin and Michigan, Trump knows what he's doing now with his attention to states like Minnesota - he wants to turn even more of the map red this time, and he constantly wins converts with his winning policies.

[Tom R]

CH @ 2:27

The Crimson Tide got me addicted to winning and Trump is my daily fix.

RTR

[hrtshpdbox]

And another brutal poll, this time from Gallup..

Fully armed with all extant dire info, including the results of this poll, the betting odds of Trump's reelection has actually improved slightly over the last couple of days. He remains the clear favorite.

[Gentlejim]

Tom R,
Get the vertigo sorted out?

[Porchlight]

Hahaha, epic move by Trump. But I don't expect anything less.

He probably told Nancystenyschumer yesterday that they would likely regret walking out of the conference.

Those 129 Repubs who signed the Dem "resolution" must be having a rough day.

[James D.]

Those 129 Repubs who signed the Dem "resolution" must be having a rough day.

If they had any decency, they'd admit they were wrong and apologize to the President. But I won't be holding my breath on that.

[henry]

Here's the lefty spin:

Frida Ghitis @FridaGhitis
1h

So, Turkey gets its way, Kurds lose, no sanctions on Turkey. And Erdogan coming to the White House. Awful

[jimmyk]

Sandy@1:46, that was a great speech. Thanks for linking to it.

[Captain Hate]

I've never had this much fun winning before, even during Reagan.

[Jane]

"So might as well at least score some political points and make some MSM heads explode."

Has she been charged?

[JimNorCal]

Oops! Failed Mel's intelligence test and didn't notice the new thread.
I've got 5 or 6 excellent posts for anyone who goes back! LOL

[Narciso]

One of obamas favorite columnists.

[Tom R]

GJ @ 2:37

For the most part Yes thanks for asking. My vertigo problem appears to have been a combination of inner ear vestibular issues (BPPV) and visual. The BPPV part got resolved with physcial therapy and getting the microcrystals in the inner ear to go back where they are supposed to be. That took about 6 weeks to resolve and I haven't gotten dizzy from turning my head, bending over, etc for about a week now. The visual part still triggers from time to time and walking down hallways and thru cubicle farms in the office is what triggers it. Fortunately that goes away after a few minutes. What is still unknown is why I had a nonstop splitting headache for 4-5 weeks 24/7. That is the main reason I didn't post here as well as shunned pretty much everything politics related during that timeframe. Having a constant headache made me pretty irritable and for someone who tries to have a positive, optimistic outlook I figured it would be best to just chill out until I felt better.

[Captain Hate]

Good news, Tom, and best wishes going forward.

[henry]

Tom, glad you are recovered.

[hrtshpdbox]

Those 129 Repubs who signed the Dem "resolution" must be having a rough day.

Is it too late for Steven Bannon to see to it that they're all primaried?

[JimNorCal]

"BREAKING: Trump picks his own hotel complex, Trump National Doral in Miami, to host the G7 meeting in June."

Surber covered this. Trump donates ALL profits from foreigners who stay at his hotels to the US Treasury. Top that, Joe Biden.

One of my excellent posts at the tail of last thread LOL

[Porchlight]

I didn't know that, Jim. Good ammo for the haters.

Tom R, very glad to hear you're feeling better.

[Captain Hate]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1184633572558139392

[Porchlight]

I've never had this much fun winning before, even during Reagan.

Trump said we would get tired of winning. His enemies certainly are fatigued.

[Captain Hate]

A handy list of the GOP Senators who Must Not Be Trusted, and also a clear explanation why Trump finds it impossible to get anything actually passed, the 10 GOP Senators who voted to override Trump's veto and say that there is NO border emergency:

Blunt
Collins
Lee
Murkowski
Paul
Portman
Romney
Rubio
Toomey
Wicker
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2019 03:11 PM (Kpl3J)

[Porchlight]

Good roundup of the Dems getting thoroughly spanked in Louisiana on Saturday.

https://spectator.org/a-red-wave-through-the-bayou/

[Porchlight]

I wonder if Rand Paul might be willing to bend a bit now that Trump has given him a head pat with the Syrian withdrawal.

[Tom R]

Adam Schiff is accidently correct.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466327-schiff-mulvaney-comments-on-ukraine-aid-have-made-things-much-much-worse

“I think Mr. Mulvaney’s acknowledgment means that things have gone from very, very bad to much, much worse,”

That is a correct assessment for the future of those Democrats who were involved in the corruption surrounding the 2016 election. Trump's phone call to the Ukrainian president is one of the best political gambits of his presidency. He killed two birds with one stone by bringing attention to both the personal corruption of Joe and Hunter Biden as well as the Democrat's collusion with Ukraine during the 2016 election. The real kicker though is who else besides Biden did the Ukrainian government engage in quid pro quo deals with? How much of the billion dollars in US taxpayer money sent to Ukraine as foreign aid got moneylaundered and sent directly right back to the coffers of US politicians via campaign contributions, donations to foundations etc?

[Captain Hate]

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1607484-lebron-james-china-comments

[Melinda]

Some may have noticed that Mueller’s office did a doc drop around midnight last night. All new items. Diggers, Inc have been at it ever since. This guy’s slice has been dedicated to Andrew Weissman’s calendar, for example. Just so you get an idea of just how thoroughly this has been self-crowdsourced::

https://twitter.com/revisitedrick/status/1184877547391213568?s=21

Enjoy. I know I am.

[Melinda]

Good thread on the resumption of The Great Game. Next year would be the 100th anniversary of the Sevres Treaty, where a vote on autonomy for the Kurds was promised.

Better links are embedded, naturally: https://twitter.com/GrayConnolly/status/1182288250414620672