Panic On The Left Bank

An ongoing series from the Times, which one day will be gathered for their readership as "Why We Lost":

Democrats Increasingly Vocal in Calling ‘Medicare for All’ a Political Liability

Party leaders are describing the health care proposal that appeals to the party’s left as a risky bet that could neutralize one of the Democrats’ prime issues in 2020.

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[Buford Gooch]

Where everybody at?

[Buford Gooch]

The entire Democrat agenda is a political liability this year.

[hoyden]

Into life can appear a new thread when you're least looking.

[hoyden]

What was the topic?

[Barbara]

"I don't really understand how people in their 50s get stuck acting like such children. "

rse at 8:22am

rse,

I really can't explain it either. I would think that as sibs grow older they would treasure those relationships. I blame it on sensitivity overload. Family makes an easy target. For some, opinions also tend to become entrenched after a certain age as that youthful spirit that engages and discusses becomes brittle and entrenched. It's silly, really.

I love the story about the door decoration for your father's room. That he enjoyed it is all that matters. You'll have to tell us what you find for a Christmas decoration.

Posted by: Barbara | November 26, 2019 at 02:57 PM

[hoyden]

Medicare 4 Awl isn't the Democrat's only political liability.

[Jim Eagle]

I am pissed. Nowhere around my area can I find a butcher who will sell me some suet. My only alternative is to freeze some Crisco and once frozen put in a food processor and use that. You can buy it online but it takes weeks for it to be delivered since it is coming from the UK. Unlike the UK where Kidney pie is a tradition (eg. plenty of the fat surrounding those kidneys is suet).

Bummer.

[JimNorCal]

Bruce Bawer is a gay American who moved to Norway because Scandinavia was far more accepting than old fashioned America.

Over the years he's seen Scandinavian superiority just melt away.
He's a conservative commentator now and worth reading for updates on the local situation in Norway.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15208/sweden-milestone

[MissMarple2]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1199361123826487296.html

Thread by StuinSD titled:

Rep. Nunes Destroys Democrats in His Closing Statement

Lots of Nunes quotes and background to what they signified.

[MissMarple2]

Mmelinda!!! Have you seen this thread on the tribes being defrauded with bond issuances? It's from November 14 but has a lot of familiar names.

https://twitter.com/pharaohfire/status/1195065522506870786

[MissMarple2]

Also:

One America News
@OANN
#HappeningNow on @OANN
: President Trump signs an executive order which will establish a task force to investigate cases related to missing and murdered Native Americans. #OANN

[Marlene]

From the previous thread about the author Doug Wead. I have his book "All the President's Children." It is fascinating. There are inspiring stories as well as heartbreaking stories. In many instances,the daughters were strong and reliable and the sons were losers. In the early years especially,presidential children died of illness (Lincoln's) or unfortunate incidents (Coolidge's son from an infected blister) or in war (TR's son Quentin).
Fun fact: one of Woodrow Wilson daughter's is buried in an ashram in India.
I think current presidential children will fade into obscurity,expect the Trump kids. :)

[MissMarple2]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-25/northern-california-man-tells-court-he-served-as-agent-for-china

Four years in prison and a $30,000 fine.

[MissMarple2]

Zach Montellaro
@ZachMontellaro
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New Quinnipiac NATIONAL poll (counts for the December debate)
Biden 24%
Buttigieg 16%
Warren 14%
Sanders 13%
Everyone else at 3 percent or lower
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This is the Politico reporter.

[James D.]

MM @ 3:40

That’s a ridiculous sentence. He should be exercised for espionage.

[Melinda]

JiB-

Are you still down south?

[Melinda]

Here comes Nadler:

𝕞𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕒 🙈🙉🙊
@my3monkees
**NOW COMES NADLER**

Coup part 2

BREAKING NEWS: House Judiciary Committee chair Jerry Nadler schedules first FORMAL impeachment hearing for December 4 & invites Trump and his lawyers-but warns president that he doesn't have the 'right' to participate
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7…

https://twitter.com/my3monkees/status/1199418703424741378

[clarice]

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/a-national-nightmare-andrew-mccarthy-exposes-the-plot-against-the-president/

[MissMarple2]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7724189/Elizabeth-Taylors-estate-puts-1-000-luxury-items-auction.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

I actually have a vivid memory of the blue gown shown as the very first picture in this article.

[Neo]

Hill then illustrated how this works by explaining that when she was working on a book, her phone was hacked repeatedly and that it became clear that a draft of her manuscript had been accessed. “After this, I started to get emails from people who purported to have met me at different points in my career. . . . And they’d start offering me information, you know, that somehow pertained to, strangely enough, some of the chapters that I was actually working on.”

They were trying to play me, Hill explained to the House Intelligence Community, and from her testimony that’s what Hill believed the Russians had done to Steele.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/26/new-fusion-gps-info-confirms-the-special-counsel-probe-was-a-hit-job/

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

This paragraph of that article you linked at 3:49 stood out to me:

My Chinese interlocutor was not impressed. “You’re trying to tell me that the people who run the world’s great superpower are complete idiots who don’t think about the consequences of their actions? I don’t believe you.”

Having watched the last 2 weeks of impeachment hearings, I believe it, and I bet more Chinese do now, as well.

In fact, I think that it should be obvious that President Trump (despite that Queens accent which so many despise, but which I have grown to love) is smarter than 90% of them.

[Melinda]

This one on Browder and Magnitsky is pretty thorough:

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-case-of-sergei-magnitsky-anti-corruption-champion-or-corrupt-anti-hero-a-1297796.html

[clarice]

Lynn Chu:The State Department denied Shokin a visa out of what George Kent averred, providing no facts or details whatsoever, a "broadbased consensus," that for Shokin to allege corruption at the US embassy must itself be corrupt. [p. 50, George Kent statement (out of 355 empty rambling pages, in closed session, Nov. 6, 2019)]. What this is, is self-dealing. It is bias and an obvious conflict of interest from which State Department officials had a duty to recuse from any decision upon, and refer to their White House superiors for decision. They knew the White House decision would have been to admit Shokin (and his successor prosecutors) to meet and testify to Giuliani and his team, so it was insubordinate of State to block such entry and testimony from Shokin (and other Ukrainian prosecutors). A lot of firings are very likely warranted here.

[Jim Eagle]

Mel,

I am in Florida. On the First Coast. Hammock Dunes. Sitting outside watching foursomes coming up our 18th green while I enjoy a nice Merlot while overlooking the very blue Atlantic. Does that answer your question:)

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

I am sitting in a drizzly and chilly Midwest and also sipping a nice Merlot, albeit a cut-rate one.

Enjoy your sunshine! It looks like it's going to be overcast and cold here.

[rse]

This is interesting.

The Nobel Prize awarded to Abhijit Banerjee, a CASSE signatory (making Banerjee the first Nobel prize-winning signatory).

Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy.

What gets the win vs how it is sold to the public appear to be 2 different things.

Thanks Barbara for the kind words.

[rse]

https://steadystate.org/ gives anyone more info although it may also spoil your appetite.

[Melinda]

Preeeecisely. Thanks!

https://striverestaurant.com/chop-shop/

Would these guys help?

[Captain Hate]

Hey, my annual physical lab work all came back good (a verbal evaluation from my doctor left on my voice mail rather than the real numbers; I was sweating the blood sugar one). There's something to be thankful for. Plus my wife was afraid that she might have diverticulitis but it's just an intestinal infection that antibiotics will treat.

[Jim Eagle]

Thanks, Mel. I will give them a shout and see if they have it.

[Captain Hate]

Steady State Economy sounds like an oxymoron.

[Melinda]

Paul Caruana Galizia
@pcaruanagalizia
Prime minister’s office helped assassin to try flee Malta

Times of Malta @TheTimesofMalta
Yorgen Fenech was in regular phone contact with Keith Schembri - sources bit.ly/2XQ7ycf

https://twitter.com/pcaruanagalizia/status/1199382166347681795

On the phone with the Prime Minister's Office's "Escape Help Line" is not a good look...

[MissMarple2]

45
🇺🇸
@TheTrumpPage1
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AIR FORCE ONE is wheels up to West Palm Beach, Florida!

From there the president will take MARINE ONE to Sunrise, Florida where he will host a "Keep America Great Rally" at 7pm ET tonight.

[Melinda]

Sure, just the inactive ones....

Matt Navarra
@MattNavarra
CONFIRMED: Twitter will remove inactive accounts and free up usernames in December bit.ly/2KTz5UH

https://twitter.com/MattNavarra/status/1199426523972952067

[Marlene]

Good News CH! We finally got a primary care provider in Florida. We have appointments in January. We've spent more time at the vet with the dog. :) Priorities!

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

This is why I don't get into too many arguments on Twitter. I try to keep a low profile.

These conservatives who try to amass thousands of followers are cutting their own throats, if you ask me.

[John S]

Thanks Neo for the article on Fusion, and thanks Clarice for the info about the Shokin visa refusal. It would be great if in the Senate trial, Shokin could be brought here to affirm the investigation of Burisma, and the circumstances of his firing.

I think the Dems are not going to pass up the chance to impeach Trump, no matter how weak the case. They want the list of presidents who have been impeached to include Donald Trump. If not, how weak would their hysterical claims be?

[Marlene]

me @3:39...EXCEPT the Trump kids, geez!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YqKDndyPpeJV?t=7

Link for RSBN live stream to the Florida rally.

I like them because they interview people in line and show the crowds in the arena.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/1EYKod0tee

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 26, 2019

Another Thanksgiving video (1 minute) at the link.

[D]

Captain:
Congrats on the excellent health news for you and your wife.
Are the kids coming home for Thanksgiving?
I had to sub today which is why I have not been posting.
I wish the IG report was coming out before this Judiciary committee hoax of an investigation.
Sounds like the Dems are doubling down since the Schiff show was such an abysmal failure.
Trouble is , everyone is Christmas shopping and is not paying attention.

[jimmyk]

“I really can't explain it either. I would think that as sibs grow older they would treasure those relationships.“

It’s been widely observed that however mature they may be in their own lives, when adult sibs get together they revert to childhood.

[jimmyk]

Congrats on the health news, CH!

And we have a Clarice appearance. Hope you’re having a great trip.

[MissMarple2]

Trump Rally in Sunrise Florida. Hard to believe we are still 4 hours away from it starting. A lot of the empty seats are reserved or they won't let us in there. This sports arena's capacity is 20,700. pic.twitter.com/ZyAvZQf8H4

— Maria (@ccpetsitters11) November 26, 2019

Video at link showing interior arena as of 1 hour ago.

[Buckeye]

Great news CH.

Who knew exotic brew was good for you:)

[clarice]

Thanks,Jimmyk.It's lovely here and yesterday I finally sorta adjusted to the 6 time zone shift.
Good news, CH.

[James D.]

Rse @ 4:28

Yeah. They call for a “stabilized population.” I suppose that sounds better than “mass genocide on a scale unmatched in human history.”

[Buckeye]

Well in the last 24 hours Mrs. Buckeye has decorated 2 Christmas trees and I installed hangers on the porch rails both upstairs and down for outdoor lights. She has those up as well.

Starting to look alot like Christmas!

[MissMarple2]

The Epoch Times - China Insider
@EpochTimesChina

The recently leaked docs #XinjiangPapers confirm #China is committing “very significant” #HumanRights abuses against #Uyghur #Muslims and other minority groups in mass detention, @SecPompeo
said.

[MissMarple2]

Climate Models can't tell their arse from their elbow. The Sun has already programmed an Ice Age into the climate. pic.twitter.com/zjp71pVecj

— Pure Climate Skeptic (@Carbongate) November 26, 2019

Graph at link.

[Barbara]

I like Spengler's review of Andy McCarthy's new book, Ball of Collusion, posted on the last thread by Clarice. Here's the link again if you missed it:

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/a-national-nightmare-andrew-mccarthy-exposes-the-plot-against-the-president/

McCarthy's analysis is excellent. The only question that I have for him is why didn't he provide this more informed and robust information in explanation or in part defense of President Trump earlier - say a year or two ago? Was it based on his discomfort with the President from Queens? Was it to keep the substance of his book secret until it was published thereby enhancing its sales? Or perhaps Mr. McCarthy wasn't quite sure which way to bet on the outcome of the various plots to remove the President.

Others may have a different perspective on this. All I know is how frustrating it was to hear Andy McCarthy equivocate or remain virtually silent as these matters were being discussed by panelists in various interviews.

I picked up a great acronym from JiB here a day or two ago. YMMV

[Tom R]

Warren loses 14 points in one month. Biden still considered the most electable candidate. LOL

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3650

[Barbara]

s/b robust argument

[Dave (in MA)]

Somebody on my hometown FB posted a meme that had this pic alongside Melania and "What an improvement". He was accused of photoshopping.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/former-us-first-lady-michelle-obama-attends-a-roundtable-news-photo/1060720140

[Buckeye]

Biden still considered the most electable candidate. LOL

Nothing an indictment couldn't fix:)

[Barbara]

She sits like a man.

Now, I suppose that comment means I've broken some newly minted sin like Climate Change Denier.

[Jim Eagle]

All those pushing for Moochele to run should stay away from Casinos and betting.

[John S]

Thanks to you all for educating and entertaining me 24/7. I have read this blog for years and love the warm characters as well as the ones with sharp edges. I just got a new project to work on, and I am feeling the relief of getting work that I have been hoping to see for a long time. I certainly will be enjoying the Thanksgiving holiday. Only downside is, instead of everyone complimenting me on my Aunt Frieda's sweet potato recipe, I am being usurped by my son with his yam recipe.

[henry]

Congrats on the project John S.

[MissMarple2]

My sister the nurse called me to see if I had seen President Trump's comments at the turkey pardon (which she found hilarious) and also to tell me about the 60 Minutes Australia interview she had watched about Epstein and the girls he had exploited.

She said she thinks this is going to get ugly, especially after I told her about Ed Buch and Adam Schifft.

More people are paying attention to this than we realize.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Hello to all. We’ve been on the road since 7:00 am. Not a fun trip. Has been raining most of the time and had to sit for 40 minutes because of an accident. I’ve been using the time to read The Plot against the President. It’s a great book. I thank God for Devon Nunes.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!!

[Narciso]

Good news captain

[KevlarKid]

"What racism?"
- Morgan Stanley [sic]

[MissMarple2]

We are supposed to have high winds here tomorrow and Thursday. The other reason my sister called was to tell me if she loses power that we will all just have to eat PBJ at home and we will have turkey on Friday or Saturday.

[D]

Happy Thanksgiving TLG!
JohnS:
How wonderful to hear your voice.
Please feel free to post more often.
Kudos on the project.

[MissMarple2]

Benny
@bennyjohnson
🚨
BREAKING
🚨

President Trump says he will designate Mexican Drug Cartels as foreign Terrorist Organizations

[Captain Hate]

Are the kids coming home for Thanksgiving?

No, they'll be here for Christmas.

[Jim Eagle]

Somehow, I feel we have missed a bullet by staying in Florida this Thanksgiving.

Today for his driving lesson, I had Frederick drive I-95 south to Daytona, then after buying so new runners at theNike super store he drove us back home. More miles to register.

If you can drive I-95 during Thanksgiving weekend, you can drive anywhere.

[KevlarKid]

Soldier on, CH! Best wishes to the Mrs.

i'm taking colloidal silver drops, a natural antibotic agent to support against systemic infection flareups. fyi.

[Captain Hate]

Congrats on the new project, John S.

[MissMarple2]

Reuters
@Reuters
·
5h
U.S. goods trade deficit narrows sharply in October https://reut.rs/37GUPwU

[Another Bob]

"What an improvement"

$500 for a hi-res copy of that image? Getty really gets that kind of scratch for what amount to stock photos? Damn.

[John S]

Wow. Such nice people here. Thank you.

[Marlene]

Yes Jack, I-95 anywhere between Florida and Maine is a nightmare. The daughter and son-in-law are going to a restaurant in Baltimore tomorrow night. I asked her if there is a back road they can take. :)

[Marlene]

Jack,I'm smiling about Frederick's driving lessons. The daughter took her driver's test in a snowstorm in Caribou,Maine. That is why she rolls her eyes when there is two inches of snow in DC.

[MissMarple2]

Sidney Powell
🇺🇸
⭐
⭐
⭐
@SidneyPowell1

#BREAKING Government filing motion to abate schedule in @GenFlynn
case as we await Judge Sullivan's order on our motion for exculpatory evidence & #IGReport

[Another Bob]

We won’t be eating much tomorrow, as prep for big meal Thursday, and wife didn’t feel like cooking tonight.

So we hit Chick-fil-A. Damn good chicken sandwich. Not seeing how Popeyes could beat it.

[henry]

Marlene, the back road is worse. ;)

[Marlene]

Yeah henry,no good options.

[Another Bob]

JohnS, what’s the nature of the work?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

You poor midwest saps.
Out here in sunny, balmy CA it's 34 and snowin like a mutha.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Mrs Ig always had a supply of colloidal silver drops and nasal spray on hand, KK.

[Jim Eagle]

And at one time Frederick had the Irish in his top ten schools to apply. I wonder if this changed his lineup?

https://www.breitbart.com/education/2019/11/25/notre-dame-students-call-for-the-removal-of-white-authors-from-curriculum/

[John S]

AB, my work is consulting. Economics.

[MissMarple2]

VP Pence up!

[Another Bob]

Thx John. Can you say what you’re being asked to accomplish?

[JimNorCal]

"You poor midwest saps.
Out here in sunny, balmy CA it's 34 and snowin like a mutha."

Down in Silicon Valley it's 48 with a cold drizzle.
First rain we've had in a while so ...

[MissMarple2]

RSBN has a camera outside where there is a HUGE crowd watching on big screens standing and taking video on their phones.

[MissMarple2]

HAHA!

He just told the crowd he was "working his ass off"!

[jimmyk]

58 and sunny here in NYC.

[MissMarple2]

jimmyk,

Enjoy it, because it is going to go away soon.

[MissMarple2]

Boy, the enlisted guys will appreciate his explanation of pardoning those 3 guys and how people in "air-conditioned offices can complain but he will always stand with the people in the field".

[MissMarple2]

So far, he's trashed Hillary's pay-for-play, her deletion of the emails, the so-called elite.

He told the crowd if what they are seeing on those debates are the elite, then the crowd is the super-elite, because they are smarter, sharper, and better looking.

HA!

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Great news John S. So happy for you

What does abate the schedule mean from Sidney Powell’s comment

MM-Love play by play of Trump. Please keep up!!

[MissMarple2]

Texas Liberty Gal,

He's now going over the Ukraine call, the president of Ukraine standing up for him, etc.

Calls those who testified against him low lifes.

I LIVE the Queens accent, so those who wring their hands about it can get bent.

[MissMarple2]

LOVE, not Live.

[MissMarple2]

"A rigged system which enriched themselves at your expense."

"If you want to understand corruption, look at Joe Biden."

"Where's Hunter Biden? He got all that money without knowing anything about energy, got thrown out of the Navy."

[Barbara]

It's a nice comfy 61° here in Southern California going down to 51° overnight. Rain is expected tomorrow and Thursday. We could use it.

Those winds you're expecting, Miss Marple, blew through here yesterday. These were not the hot Santa Ana's, but roaring cold weather winds. I thought we were going to get a brief rain shower, but we'll have to wait until tomorrow for that.

Congratulations, JohnS! Nothing like having good work to do that you enjoy.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Glad to hear you had good news CH

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Heh. Low lifes.
There's nothing a little pill in a bow tie or a clench-jawed frau like Mzzzz Fiona like less than being mistaken for someone inferior to the hoi polloi.