She Had A Plan

Elizabeth Warren releases her Medicare For All fan fiction.

She will hold down costs by paying current Medicare reimbursement rates, in a fantasy taken seriously by on one.

NY Times:

Would ‘Medicare for All’ Save Billions or Cost Billions?

...

In our current system, doctors, hospitals and other health care providers are paid by a number of insurers, and those insurers all pay them slightly different prices. In general, private insurance pays medical providers more than Medicare does. Under a Medicare for all system, Medicare would pick up all the bills. Paying the same prices that Medicare pays now would mean an effective pay cut for medical providers who currently see a lot of patients with private insurance.

For a Medicare for all system to save money, it needs to reduce the health care industry’s income somewhat. But if rates are too low, hospitals already facing financial difficulties could be put out of business.

Politico:

Medicare for All' backers find biggest foe in their own backyard

Hospitals threaten to derail big and small Democratic plans for coverage expansion.

On the revenue side Sen. Warren proposes a spate of new taxes and a level of IRS enforcement and taxpayer compliance that seems unprecedented (in a "Gee, how come nobody ever thought of THAT?" kind of way) - she hopes to raise compliance from 84% to 92%, which is great. Why not 95% like in the UK?

Left unmentioned: the rest of her plan includes having government office workers check under the cushions of every sofa in Federal offices for spare change. Another revenue source is money left by the Tooth Fairy.

This will work.

No it won't. Politico again with Obama alums rehashing their battle scars and guessing Warren has no chance with this.

Comments

[Narciso]

The definition of useful idiot:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/1190459526593556485

[GUS]

Honey, should we have CONGOLESE food for dinner????. Maybe some "fufu, with plantains and rice???"

If FULL COMMIES want to merge white America with the Congo, why don't these fuckers move to the CONGO. Then there could be "diveristy" there, and the LIBTARDS would be happy.

Biden could sniff a goats ass.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Heh.

[Narciso]

Considering about 5 million?? Have reputedly occurred since susan rice was on point in that region, largely for control of that rare earth used in cell phones.

[Narciso]

Sids spawn has been a hamas fan boi, as well as for tommy boy and hearts putin for cereal.

[Narciso]

Well from a certain point of view:

https://humanevents.com/2019/11/01/cnns-reliable-gaslighting/

[Captain Hate]

The definition of useful idiot:

Defending someone of kicking a woman in the stomach while defending the Venezuelan government? Outstanding humanitarian imo.

[Narciso]

Admittedly hes right about the russia matter, but thats just blind squirrel.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

From clarice's CTH link;
The surreply argues;

The government had no legal obligation to provide exculpatory Brady material prior to the plea agreement (Nov 30th, 2017).

I didn't realize that Flynn wasn't actually charged until Dec 1st, after he signed the plea deal.
Neat trick; don't charge the subject of an investigation with what you're threatening to until after he pleads and you don't have to show him how you framed him until after he's hung himself.

[Captain Hate]

How little self esteem does a cum dumpster need to be impregnated by Sid's needledick?

[Captain Hate]

Does anyone know what the new timeline is on Flynn's case after Sullivan cancelled the, I think, 11/7 hearing? For the people who would know these things, like clarice, does Sullivan have multiple cases going on at the same time that would explain all these delays? Because surely he has a staff to handle the grunt work and this legal crap isn't particle physics.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

If California could get a special waiver from the Feds for its smog laws why can't other states get special waivers to prevent Californians moving to their states and polluting them with their ideology?

[clarice]

December 18 is the last date I saw CH. Powell still has time to file a surreply.

[Jane]

"Van Grack wrote that handwritten notes, interview report, drafts of the interview reports and statements are “consistent and clear” that Flynn made “multiple false statements” to agents over his communications with the Russian ambassador on Jan. 24, 2017. "

That's a lie. The entire thing was a set up.

[clarice]

Iggy --you succinctly framed the frame. Better than anyone else has.

[Narciso]

Ah the dc court of appeals site is conveniently down

[Jack is Back!]

Taking racism to a new level of idiotic.

'Little White Town' in Devon changes signposts over claims of racism

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/01/little-white-town-devon-changes-signposts-claims-racism/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget&WT.mc_id=e_DM1131206&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sat&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sat20191102&utm_campaign=DM1131206

[Gentlejim]

Captain,
If Sullivan’s docket is anything like our local courts there isn’t an abundance of free time.

[Captain Hate]

Thanks, Gentlejim, but Sullivan may not be like a local court.

[Captain Hate]

I'm going to book group in case someone answers my questions and it looks like I'm being an unresponsive ingrate.

[Gentlejim]

Captain,
Very true. I should have added that Sullivan’s court is extremely similar to our local courts with its glacial pacing. We just completed a trial on a homicide from almost 7 years ago. Delay wasn’t caused by a lack of a suspect. He was charged within 48 hours of the deed.

[MissMarple2]

Hey, when do we turn the clocks back? Tomorrow?

[henry]

Yes

[Narciso]

At 2 am tomorrow,

[Porchlight]

Wow, had no idea, thanks for the reminder.

[Jack is Back!]

England got steamrolled by South Africa and The Springboks are rugby World Cup champs. Their 3rd.

[Narciso]

Have to make sure, since we have a special 10:30 church service tomorrow

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Phones and many other devices will auto update in case you're worried about the time

[sbwaters]

Turn 'em back today, before you go to bed.

[Narciso]

Seriously whats the uk good for anymore,

[Narciso]

20 points, thats a nuking from orbit.

[hoyden]

You know what fat chance means?

Dang. I can't make it fit.

[JM Hanes]

It was such a treat to meet-up with Mel & Co yesterday, and yes, time flew way too fast. We should have gotten together at 2:00 tonight! As you can imagine, we had plenty to talk about -- and we didn't even get to politics, which was a rather nice change. Thanks so much for getting in touch and making a stop en route, Mel. It was really special to get to say hello, for real, here in my own neck of the woods.

[Narciso]

Was it in august whem i met with catsmeat and rg?

[Narciso]

Just cruel to point out her failures that way:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1190391291428900866

[Narciso]

Indeed:

https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/01/the-impeachment-dog-bites-orange-man-scam/

[Narciso]

This is like getting stuck in the tar pits and saying eureka.

https://mobile.twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1190281768294858752

[MissMarple2]

Thanks!

Indiana didn't have DST until Mitch Daniels was governor, when he convinced the legislature to institute it because of confusion with shipping and airlines.

Arizona still doesn't have it. The reason the two states didn't have it was because Eugene Pulliam, publisher of the Arizona Republic and The Indianapolis Star, hated it and campaigned against it. Once he died, there was no resistance, so when Daniels was elected governor it was one of the things he wanted to do.

Since I didn't grow up with it until the 90's, I dread it every year.

[Narciso]

One its something we borrpwed from the germans after they lost the first world war, two its arbitrary whem they decide to institute it.

[Narciso]

Yes i know she doesnt care, its as much debt as the emtire iceberg part of the budget.

[Jack is Back!]

MM,

How is Dan Quayle related to the Pulliam's?

[Narciso]

Grandson, i had to review that, qayle took out the eminense gris birch bayh and they never forgave him for that.

[MissMarple2]

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[Jane]

Here is the story of Flynn -

2 days after Trump won, Obama warned him about Flynn, which Trump thought was a very odd priority. Obama's concern was the Iran deal which Flynn vehemently opposed. Obama was worried Flynn would assist him in ending the deal.

Other than a visit to Russia in June 2013 at Obama's directive there were no visit or connections, until Stefan Halper made up the story about Flynn's dalliance with Svetlana Lokhova. It was meant to frame Flynn. Was Obama aware? No one knows.

Strzok was very concerned that Flynn would get a job with Trump and screw up Crossfire Hurricane,

[Narciso]

Btw guess who arramged that visit according to julia ioffe, fwiw, none other than the good colonel vindman.

[Jane]

Obama's hundreds of allies in the Intelligence community were also worried about Flynn. He wanted to cut down the NSC staff by a third.

He also wanted to remake the entire IC - drain the swamp.Trump was interested. It was an existential threat.

[Jane]

Let me know if you want me to keep going.

[henry]

Keep going

[D]

Jane:
Keep going.
It all becomes so clear now.
How awful it was to have Obama until the very last second undercutting America, plotting against a newly elected President and trying to sabotage our ability as American citizens to elect the person we wanted to succeed him.
After he cheated in Florida to win in 2912 and lied about Benghazi, this was his final act of treachery, giving the go ahead for Hurricane Crossfire.
There is a reason no candidate of color is winning the Dem nomination at present. I denounce myself.

[D]

Should be 2012.

[Narciso]

So you see how far back they were setting this up, they saw flynn as an obstacle as far back as 2013, since he was the strategist behind the surge.

[D]

Does Beto get to keep all the money he raised for his ill-fated campaign?

[Jack is Back!]

Jane,

Are you summarizing Lee Smith's book or are those your own insights? Keep it going!

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Pres Obama was not as idle and ineffectual as some say.
At the very least he had many eager helpers.

[Narciso]

This is why they went after nunes and by proxy his staff, as codevilla puts it they are all about self preservation, now accomplishing something useful is beyond them.

[Narciso]

He didnt have to be, if all the key people at the irs at doj in the organs as they would say in the parlance were on the same page.

[Narciso]

Was anything they said true, any of it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1190676425524809728

[JM Hanes]

Jim Sunnyvale:

I had very mixed reactions to the article you posted yesterday: American Women Need to Shift Their Priorities If They Want to Be Happy. I was willing to ignore the irony of David Brooks as spiritual advisor to America's women, till I got to his conclusion, which is that the solution to our ills is to:

Put love and relationships first—focus like a laser beam on finding a man with whom to share your life—and fit everything else in around that.

He forgot to add, "and live happily ever after…. " What I object to is the whole idea that there is one prescription for happiness, aside from the question of whether or not it is sex/gender dependent, when the fact is one size does not fit fill all. That, in many ways was/is where the feminist movement itself ultimately went wrong.

IMO, the really "Big Lie" was that women could have a career and raise a family too, without having to sacrifice anything on either side of the equation. Feminists told us we could have it all, and we wanted to believe them. The corollary, however, was that women ought to have careers, and ought to be able to handle both career and family successfully. That was a lose, lose proposition psychologically for all but a very talented few.

In order for women to have both a career and a family, you do have to give up things, like control of your children's development to someone else by, for example, putting them in daycare, and, of course, you have to be able to afford daycare and hope you find practitioners you trust. On the flip side, jobs which allow you to leave work for special occasions or childhood traumas, and teachers meetings, are not generally the ones where you'll be smashing through glass ceilings.

So, women who stayed home, felt as though they should be doing "more important" work as well. Women who put off having families for careers felt bereft at a deeply fundamental level. Both groups resented each other. Women who tried to do it all, felt like failures when they found themselves floundering. Or were just exhausted, by trying to pursue a career while also ending up doing all the traditional household things like cooking & laundry etc. that women had always handled, in addition to all the things that men were doing career-wise. It was a recipe for constant, soul crushing guilt no matter what choices you made.

And that's just how the women's movement affected women who had the luxury of choice. It should have died a natural death once the marketplace for women opened up, back in the 70's and 80's, when the early feminists had made a real difference in terms of opportunities for women.

The antidote, however, is not for women to try to recreate the pre-feminist 50s/60s culture for themselves. That's certainly not an era I'd choose. I don't know what Brooks' advice to men might be, but not everyone gets to marry the man of her dreams or the perfect woman, even if, as the author asserts, "The real secret to success is choosing the right person to marry." If that is the only route to success, you're still going to have an awful lot of unhappy people out there. In fact, it's probably easier to find that someone if you're not focused "like a laser" on the pursuit. Relationships are important, all kinds of relationships, and a happy, supportive marriage is a gift, and a trust. I do think it's incredibly important to have interests or a job which is not dependent on whom you marry or being married, though, something which can help sustain you in the event of loss or enrich the lives of those around you too. The notion that there is a single formula for happiness or success is, a depressing, self-defeating principle, IMO.

[D]

Narciso:
“All about self preservation”
So true.
This is the motivation behind all of this Russian collusion and impeachment
Treachery.
Unfortunately once all is revealed by Horowitz and Barr/Durham the full ugly picture of their perfidy will be revealed.
They all put on a brave face each day, but their nights must be long and worrisome.
The bigger they are, the harder they will fall.
It can’t come soon enough for me.

[Narciso]

If eickenrode is one of the investigators, i wonder how that can happen,

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

"Does Beto get to keep all the money he raised for his ill-fated campaign?"

Maybe it is as simple as re-depositing to his wife's account?

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

JMH, crazy busy but looking fwd to reading yr long response in a while!

[sbwaters]

JMH, Brooks? Really? Brooks?

Brooks writing about ethics is like Brooks writing about phlogiston. Ignorance pursuing the pointless.

[D]

JMH:
Agree with your assessment.
This is what I did.
I stayed at home for 3 years and my husband adjusted his working schedule while I went back full time when my son was 4.
He attended half day pre-school.
My husband put my daughter on the bus to school as my day as a teacher started at 7:25.
I arrived home at 3:00 to pick up my son and then meet my daughter’s bus at 3:30.
Needless to say I never kept any student after school, because I was traveling from the East side to the West side.
We were supposed to be Super Mom back then.
I laugh about it now and wonder how we were able to pull it off.

[JM Hanes]

Not to worry, Jim Sun. It didn't seem nearly that long when I was writing it. Should have divided it up into more paragraphs. And then deleted every other one.

[Jane]

So the story became that Flynn had been compromised by Lokohva (and thus Russia even tho Lokova lived in GB). Halper started it and Chistopher Andrew (Halper's colleague, and Lokohva's professor) gave the media 2 sources for verification- both false. They were working for the deep state.

The media went nuts. David Ignatious was and is a big player. He accused Flynn of speaking (colluding) with Kislyak about Obama's policy. Flynn was concerned Obama's sanctions on Russia in the days before he left office, would screw up Russian relations for Trump (Probably their intent).

Flynn did not report his discussion to Pence, - he was doing his job and probably should have but it was during the transition, which was the reason Pence fired him.

[JM Hanes]

D:

You were Super Mom back then!

[Narciso]

And ahe had received a major payout from the leading bank, and had started wirking as a historian.

[JM Hanes]

Jane:

Thanks for laying this out. The Flynn part of the whole shebang is the one I have known the least about, aside from the plea bargaining part which came much later.

[Narciso]

Like zombies they are:

https://mobile.twitter.com/donnabrazile/status/1190645773240864770

[Narciso]

Sadly there is precedent for this.

[Captain Hate]

JMH,

Rest assured the next time I visit my Durham buds I'll darken your doorstep either before or after.

[JM Hanes]

Any time, Captain! That would be great.

[Jane]

Obama had imposed 2 groups of "sanctions" on Russia. The last ones, days before Obama left the WH were intended to screw Trump and further the whole "collusion" narrative. (The first ones were after the annexing of Crimea.)

Flynn, and a lot of people did not consider the stuff done days before as "sanctions'. He told Pence he didn't discuss "sanctions" with Russia. Then the WH told the press there was no discussion of "sanctions" with Kislyak.

Sally yates, of Crossfire Hurricane fame went to the WH to warn don McGahn that indeed flynn had discussed "sanctions.

The press went nuts about the so-called "sanctions. McCabe brought "evidence" to Pence that was the opposite of what Flynn told him.

The WH was in disarray because of the transition. The FBI was out to get Flynn because he wanted to cut the bureau. Trump got bad advice from a number of people.

When Flynn left the WH he was vilified as a liar and a Russian stooge.

[Jane]

Flynn was the first casualty of cross-fire hurricane initiated by Obama. The plot was just getting off the ground.

[MissMarple2]

I am at an open house for my son and his new wife.Back later.

[Jane]

JIB,

That is a recap of Chapter 10 of Lee Smith's book. The whole thing is amazing. But since Flynn was on the radar I thought I'd post it. It is so loaded with facts that it will take many reads to absorb. Ch 11 which I'm about to read is called: "Becoming Deep Throat". Maybe you guys should guess who that is about.

[Jane]

BTW JIB, the whole book indicates that the one person aware of what was going on, and trying to warn the WH was Devin Nunes.

[Jack is Back!]

Like the original Deep Throat, the Deputy AG, McCabe?

[clarice]

With hard work and enough money you can do it all..But if the job you are holding doesn't pay enough to hire good household help and you are unwilling to cut back your hours for a few years, you cannot. A lot of working mothers who aren't earning a great deal, would have more household income if they stayed home for a few years. That's the fact.Cook your own meals --it will cost you about 1/4 the cost of picking up prepared meals, ordering in or eating out, for example.

[Captain Hate]

The press went nuts about the so-called "sanctions. McCabe brought "evidence" to Pence that was the opposite of what Flynn told him.

So this was the background on Pence and Flynn being at odds? Did Pence ever believe what McCabe told him? Badly naive if so.

[Jane]

At that point he didn't know Capt. Trump and his people had no idea who were the allies and who were the enemies. Hell they are still dealing with that. And the enemies had banded together long before Trump even decided to run for office.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Amazing;

According to wiki the actual number is estimated to be 2.4 million.

[Jack is Back!]

Well, if my life or liberty was at risk, I sure as hell want Flynn in my corner versus Pence. Pence is okay as a VP and he backs up Trump but he is no national security maven.

[clarice]

Even before Lisa Murkowski was born:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191031154948.htm

[The Infamous Ignatz]

JM,
I never thought I'd defend David Brooks, but his article seems fairly unremarkable, despite the usual stupidities he can't seem to avoid. And it's not directed at women, but people in general.
The blockquote you attributed to him is actually a quote from Suzanne Venker, who you linked.
And I suspect she is dealing in generalities not absolutes, in the same way one might say fathers are essential to a child's upbringing.

[Jane]

It wasn't just Pence, it was Bannon and Prius too. Nunes warned them if they didn't wake up they would be gone soon too.

Hmmm

[Pinandpuller]

Hey Miss Catsmeat, this slattern is trying to put your sector out of business. Then in the middle of all that she promotes her own book: https://twitter.com/danaschwartzzz/status/1190315124952690689?s=21

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

JMH, great write up!
The things that Brooks gets right are
1) pendulum has swung too far
2) it's a healthy situation if most women and most men are trying to create harmonic relationships in order to create strong family environments for raising kiddos

We're never going back.
And feminists have in large part gone off into an unhelpful philosophical space (imo)

The Conservative side is blessed by so many strong, independent women but the Progressive side has the talkers.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

All this horse race stuff changes day to day but so amusing to see each Dem fall back when examined at all closely!

https://nypost.com/2019/11/01/biden-slides-to-fourth-in-new-iowa-poll-buttigieg-surges/
"Joe Biden slipped into fourth place among presidential candidates in the 2020 Iowa caucuses, behind front-runner Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and a surging South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, according to a new poll released Friday."

Dear God, let it be Sen Warren! LOL 😂

[Narciso]

I thought that was going to be some kind of gargoyle from ancient days,

[Narciso]

Doc brown is catching up to chief wampum, that has to have the bankers a little concerned.

[Narciso]

Ignatius is a prince of the Post, his father was manager of the post after having served as navy secretary.

[DrJ]

Michigan 38, Maryland 7. The game was closer than it appears.

[Captain Hate]

At that point he didn't know Capt. Trump and his people had no idea who were the allies and who were the enemies. Hell they are still dealing with that.

Thanks, Jane.

[Narciso]

Maryland only scored in the third quarter, how is that close.

[Captain Hate]

Faint praise, DrJ. It was homecoming so I hope most of the alumni parked in the designated lots and took the metro to the Nats parade.

[Robin]

The blockquote you attributed to him is actually a quote from Suzanne Venker, who you linked.
And I suspect she is dealing in generalities not absolutes, in the same way one might say fathers are essential to a child's upbringing.

Venker is the one who wrote to young women at Princeton (I think, one of the ivies) and told them that was where they should be looking for husbands. Boy, did she step into a hornet's nest.

Women can't have everything ALL AT ONCE. I read wise advice from a homeschooling advocate who suggested thinking about life as a set of chapters, each with a different focus.

[Barbara]

Reposted from the last thread.

It was partially a rhetorical auestion, but one can see how such a confab can go far afield of the original charter.

Posted by: Narciso | November 01, 2019 at 01:19 PM

I agree.

The only modern day example that I can provide on how an Article V Convention can go sideways is the history of redistricting in California. It varies with each attempt, and the outcome depends on how savvy the participants are. Politicians tend to protect what is theirs, and as in the jungle, the strong tend to dominate the weak. Of late in California, that usually means the Democrats eat the Republicans' lunch.

I like what JM Hanes suggests, that such a convention be limited to a specific Article of the Constitution. If that is the case, my preference is to use the established Amendment process. It's cumbersome and lengthy, but it narrows the focus and ultimately brings whatever is proposed down to the states for approval.

Posted by: Barbara | November 02, 2019 at 03:13 PM

[Narciso]

Of course that earlier link suggests alaska had a tropical climate many many moons ago, because rhinos are not northern animals