South of the Border

This is appalling:

9 Members of Mormon Family in Mexico Are Killed in Ambush

Six children were among the victims in a massacre attributed to organized crime, relatives said. Other children were rescued, some of whom hid along a roadside.

 

 

Comments

[peter]

The victims had dual citizenships to Mexico and USA. Was not aware that was a thing for Mormons. oh and first.

[Narciso]

When youre a weak horse, no one is safe,

[Narciso]

Unrelated:

https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/03/hollywoods-dark-fate-foretold-in-box-office-performance-of-dark-fate/

[Tom R]

More YouTube censorship of pro-Trump conservatives:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/youtube-bans-sebastian-gorka-because-he-wont-stop-playing-imagine-dragons

[henry]

A defensible border / interdiction zone from Monterray to Mazatlan, or even further south would work. The current border is too long.

[Jim Eagle]

Moar info with photos

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7650129/Relatives-say-5-US-citizens-killed-northern-Mexico.html

[Jim Eagle]

Another opportunity to unleash Delta Force.

[Dave (in MA)]

I wonder if any PreznitOkieDoke-supplied weaponry was employed?

[Melinda]

There were many Mormon colonies in Mexico, and a lot have been abandoned, like the one to where those families were headed, it seems.

[henry]

which would you rather have more of? Housing stock or homeless people? Forbes is staffed by imbeciles.

Forbes Tech @ForbesTech
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Apple commits $2.5 billion for affordable housing in California, only $50 million for homeless

[henry]

from wiki:

[George] Romney was born to American parents living in the Mormon colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to flee back to the United States when he was a child. The family lived in several states and ended up in Salt Lake City, Utah, where they struggled during the Great Depression.

[MissMarple2]

Now you guys know why I was so upset when my daughter went down to Mexico to get married without telling me.

Apparently the president of Mexico has turned President Trump down. He already got his son released from captivity by the cartels by paying some sort of ransom. I don't think he will be a very successful president.

[Jim Eagle]

Peter,

Don’t forget Mitt’s Dad was born in Mexico but was still able to run for POTUS.

Yoo-hoo, paging TK!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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A very good start! Please all work hard to get a final deal.
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AFP news agency
@AFP
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#UPDATE Yemen's internationally recognised government signed a power-sharing deal with southern separatists Tuesday, in a Saudi-brokered initiative to end a conflict simmering within the country's civil war
http://u.afp.com/Jrr3

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/11/04/georgetown-establishes-400k-slavery-reparations-fund/

[Tom R]

Do Brits like football more than the citizens of a major US city, perhaps San Diego?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-nfl-considers-allowing-a-chargers-move-to-london/ar-AAJS4Ts?ocid=ientp

I think it was silly for the owner of the Chargers to move the team to LA knowing that the Rams were back in town. They should have stayed in San Diego where they had some fan support.

[Jim Eagle]

Remember the London Monarchs?

When I lived in London they got huge British crowds at Wembley for American football. Lots of Expats also.

When Navy plays Notre Dame in Dublin it is a packed house. Less American expats in Ireland than in the UK.

I have feeling RG is going

[Jim Eagle]

....I have a feeling RG is going to stop by and introduce himself to TomR:)

[Narciso]

Gah the horde had mentioned this, but i thought they might have overstated it:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/05/tom-clancy-would-be-mortified-to-see-what-has-happened-to-jack-ryan/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Slow Joe's intellect is visibly declining.--

If you've got a scanning electron microscope.

[MissMarple2]

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[MissMarple2]

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WEXIT NEWS: Wheatland County (large municipal district east of Calgary) is debating and will likely pass an "Alberta First" motion today. Demands include withdrawal from CPP, establishing an AB police force, immigration oversight, and more. Barring that, they demand secession.
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Canada may end up in civil war before we do!

[James D.]

--Slow Joe's intellect is visibly declining.--

How can a nonexistent thing decline?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Western Canada has had a long history of estrangement from the East.
I can remember a strong push to secede and join the US, seems like during the Reagan years.
BC though may be getting gentrified by all the prog pukes in the Vancouver area.

[peter]

My son told me that Mitt Romney's grandson was dressed as Pierre Delecto for Halloween and quite the hit on social media. Even his grandkids know he's a dork.

[henry]

Schiff isn't very bright.

CNBC
@CNBC

House Democrats ask White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to testify in Trump impeachment probe cnb.cx/2pIZJsc

[James D.]

Even his grandkids know he's a dork.

They probably know better than anyone else. How many times do you think he's asked them for help "getting on the Twitter" ?

[Narciso]

Likewise:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jabeale/status/1191765010973970434

[Tom R]

I am perfectly fine with the US military helping Mexico weaken the drug cartels. A few well place drone strikes will go a long way to remind the cartel members that the US can kill them at a moments notice and they won't have time to prepare. Of course someone else will step in to take their place and we will just drop a drone strike on them as well. Rinse and repeat for as long as it takes and you don't have to risk the lives of US troops.

[Buckeye]

I like the drone strike idea TomR, but augmented with some of those refurbished A-10 Warthog.

The Warthog drivers need some live fire exercises to maintain proficiency:)

[Jane]

Was this posted?

Lee Smith's Book Will Make Patriots' Blood Boil

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/lee_smiths_book_will_make_patriots_blood_boil.html

[MissMarple2]

NEW: Joe Biden is headed to Elizabeth Warren's Boston backyard for a fundraiser on Thursday.

The huge list of Massachusetts co-hosts — among the lengthiest I've seen — would appear to be message-sending to the state's senator. pic.twitter.com/HFjbuTrcmH

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) November 5, 2019

Link goes to a screen cap with a list of co-hosts.

[henry]

Co-hosts? or co-conspirators?

[Tom R]

Twitter allows a promoted ad paid for by the Senate Democrats.

https://twitter.com/dscc/status/1179050796081659909?s=21

[MissMarple2]

https://magamedia.org/2019/11/05/do-you-want-to-dance-2/

Sean Spicer made it through another week of Dancing With the Stars. This article makes the point that Spicer doing well indicates that the President has a lot of influence. Also, this has the video of Spicer's dance from this week.

[Tom R]

Jane @ 1:08

Are you ever going to tell us who Lee Smith says was Nunes source (that Obama was spying on Trump)?

[Melinda]

NYT Politics
@nytpolitics
Gordon Sondland, a key impeachment inquiry witness, acknowledged delivering a quid pro quo message to Ukraine in a major revision to his testimony nyti.ms/2qnKzss

https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1191786927734874114

(Who made the revisions? Strzok?)

[henry]

might convenient timing.

The New York Times @nytimes
5m

Breaking News: The U.S. ambassador Gordon Sondland, a key witness in the impeachment inquiry, acknowledged delivering a quid pro quo message to Ukraine in a major revision to his impeachment testimony nyti.ms/2PS9zme

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html

[henry]

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman
41m

“They Allowed It”: A Justice Department Employee Said She Was Raped By A Senior Official. New Documents Show A Pattern Of Harassment At The Department.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/justice-department-metoo-sexual-harassment-assault-aponte

Edison Aponte, who had worked at DOJ since 1994

[Tom R]

Related to MM's 1:23

Leftwingers don't like democracy when the outcome isn't what they want.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/carrie-ann-inaba-sean-spicer-being-safe-on-dwts-is-frustrating/ar-AAJT3OB?ocid=ientp

[Jim Eagle]

This should be a fun film. Features Malcom Gladwell:)

Autonomy: For those who like cars and their future.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/autonomy/id1483260948

[John S]

Henry, i looked at the NYT article about Sondland's "bombshell", and basically Sondland is now saying that he "came to believe" that the aid was tied to an announcement of Ukrainian investigation. So another non-participant giving his opinion

[Dave (in MA)]

Have any of the loons started bleating Reichstag Fire yet?

[Tom R]

Here is the problem with lowering the standard and electing Harold Baines to the MLB Hall of Fame. Pretty much every single player listed in this article was statistically a better player than Baines. Do they all get in?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28007863/thurman-munson-dwight-evans-lou-whitaker-included-hof-panel-ballot

[Dave (in MA)]

NEW: Joe Biden is headed to Elizabeth Warren's Boston backyard for a fundraiser on Thursday.

I wonder if he's got a designated handler to make sure he's facing the front of the stage from now on.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I read that as Biden was going to be fundraising literally in Warren's back yard and thought it was rather innovative for the two of them.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

That Autonomy documentary looks good. I love to drive and would hate to relinquish it, though I do when in the car with my husband.

[James D.]

To show I can be at least somewhat objective (on occasion) when it comes to sports, I'll say that neither Munson nor Mattingly belong in the Hall of Fame.

Had he not died in the plane crash and played another few years at or close to the level he had demonstrated, Munson would be an obvious pick, but you can't assume it.

Mattingly was a great player, but he was only truly elite for 2-3 seasons before the back injuries really impacted him. It's just not enough to go to the Hall.

Of the other names mentioned, I think Lou Whitaker absolutely belongs in the Hall, and I don't see how it's even a close discussion. I'd say the same for Steve Garvey.

I'd say a definite no on Tommy John. If he had won 300 games, I'd feel differently, but he didn't, and he's a victim of his era. Had he put up the same numbers and especially the longevity in today's game, he'd be a lock to go in. And an even more definite no for Marvin Miller, who did tremendous damage to the game.

That leaves Dwight Evans, Dale Murphy, Ted Simmons and Dave Parker. From memory, I feel like Parker was probably the best of those four over the longest time (but I could be misremembering).

[henry]

Sara A. Carter @SaraCarterDC
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#BREAKING:

Kurt Volker, fmr US envoy to #Ukraine, told House #Impeachment Panel that:

"@realDonaldTrump did NOT tie Ukraine meeting to push for @JoeBiden probe"

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no story yet.

[Dave (in MA)]

I'd put Parker and Evans in. Evans had 1 more year than Parker, and about 50 more HRs, .370 OBP, while Parker had about 100 more RBI, .338 OBP.

[Porchlight]

Entering Mexico is your first mistake.

[henry]

More coming to Miss M's viewpoint.

❌Tenser, said the Tensor❌ @bobaloo_1
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Replying to @drawandstrike @JamesAGagliano @SidneyPowell1

Sadly, this calls into question the integrity of the FBI as a whole, including the highly suspect "302" process. Who now would ever willingly sit down for an interview with the FBI without lawyers and audio/video recording equipment present, knowing what we know now?

[Porchlight]

Don't get me started on the self-driving cars, Robin. ;)

[Jim Eagle]

JamesD,

Tommy John may not be a good candidate for the HOF, although he ranks 7th in wins by a southpaw and first with 184 no decisions.

This guy should be: Dr. Frank Jobe (deceased) who developed "Ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction" or aka Tommy John surgery.

Think of all the arms he saved:)

[Captain Hate]

And an even more definite no for Marvin Miller, who did tremendous damage to the game.

Scumbucket who never played or managed? Fuck that shit!

I agree with Tom about Baines and I liked him as a player and person; he just isn't HOF worthy. Barely Hall of Very Good.

The baseball HOF has integrity compared to that shitshow in Canton which has multiple Harold Baineses every year. I particularly like that some years they induct nobody! Standards, how do they work?

[Porchlight]

John S, thank you for reading the NYT piece so we didn't have to. :)

[Tom R]

James D @ 2:12

I'm a Red Sox fan and with no doubt both Mattingly and Munson were better players than Baines. Baines had a career WAR rating of 38.7. Every single player listed in that article had a higher career WAR stat than Baines.

Don Mattingly 42.4
Thurman Munson 46.1
Dwight Evans 67.1
Dale Murphy 46.5
Dave Parker 40.1
Lou Whitaker 75.1
Tommy John 61.5
Ted Simmons 50.3

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I would think that in Austin you are sharing the road with them already, Porch.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Thurman Munson is my all-time favorite player - I was a catcher for many years and he was my hero....and secret crush. I did love the 70's Yankees.

[henry]

because government protection of privacy is so good they never get hacked.

CNBC
@CNBC

Two Silicon Valley congresswomen propose a new federal agency to enforce online privacy rights cnb.cx/2PP7w2n

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

How do you write "I am from the government and here to help you" in ASCII?

[Dave (in MA)]

I can think of another HOF in Ohio that makes Canton look like it's comparatively sane.

[Tom R]

BTW I forgot to check Steve Garvey and turns out he was the only player listed in that article with a WAR (38.1) below Baines 38.7).

In other words, of all the players listed in that ESPN article, the player most comparable to Baines was Garvey and he had the worst stats of anyone listed.

[henry]

JiB, I think they switched to emojis, which I don't speak.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Trump should have followed the Andy McCarthy suggestion [and mine] and simply stated from the outset quid pro quo is simply another name for foreign policy; it's how it's done.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

-- I did love the 70's Yankees.--

Yeah, what was it with those guys? I hate the Yankees and even I liked that team.

[Porchlight]

I would think that in Austin you are sharing the road with them already, Porch.

I've seen a couple. Creepy af. I loathe them.

[Jim Eagle]

Dave,

Rock and Roll HOF?

[MissMarple2]

NO ONE I talk to about those 302's understands why they are still allowed.

When I first heard about them, I thought they were honest and simply transcripts. Now I find out they are "recreations" and "impressions" and OUTRIGHT LIES!

Abolish the 302's and start video taping interviews.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President. Link goes to video.

Club 45 on NBC Today Show. Showing our strong support for the President! @DanScavino pic.twitter.com/rSVQDeAhNX

— Club 45 USA (@Club45USA) November 5, 2019

[MissMarple2]

Thank you so much CLUB 45. You are truly Great Americans. See you in Florida! pic.twitter.com/0NuayEXEPn

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 5, 2019

Link goes to video.

[Jane]

MM,

I didn't recognize one name on the list. I've been gone for awhile but I think they are small players.

[Dave (in MA)]

*ding* JiB

[boris]

"Trump should have ... stated from the outset quid pro quo is simply another name for foreign policy"

It's the old "corrupt intent" argument that doing something perfectly ordinary, with multiple ordinary motives, is impeachable if a prog flunky thinks it was a political impulse.

[mike in houston]

Here is the site for KY results tonight. Polls close at 6:00pm but KY is split by time zones so I wouldn't look for numbers until 7:00 pm EST.

https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/KY/97213/web/#/summary

[henry]

CMP @CtrMedProgress
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BREAKING: Procurement Manager for Advanced Bioscience Resources, decades-long partner with @PPFA confirms on witness stand in federal court that ABR receives intact fetuses for organ harvesting

#PPSellsBabyParts #ReleaseTheVideos

youtu.be/ndJMawjoyPc

https://twitter.com/CtrMedProgress/status/1191808204633559040

[MissMarple2]

https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-virginia-roberts-unsealed-memoir-2019-8

[MissMarple2]

Much more of this stuff and there are going to be mobs with torches and pitchforks chasing people up and down the street.

[Buckeye]

Much more of this stuff and there are going to be mobs with torches and pitchforks chasing people up and down the street.

Sounds good to me!

[Melinda]

Snorfle.

Voice of Washington’s Silenced Majority 🇺🇸✝️
@WA_Silenced_Maj
Bahahahaha- @Lisa_Herbold is really a class act.

1) She owes the @IRSnews tens of thousands. 💵

2) Hates the police then asks for special favors. 👮‍♀️

3) And spends OUR money on increasing homelessness.

Welcome to #Socialism - Undo this mistake. #VoteToday or put up with it.

(((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio @jasonrantz
My favorite part of the text is when Seattle councilmember Lisa Herbold texts the chief of police, expecting some special treatment, and the chief responds "Who is this?"

Also an update: a complaint has been made against Herbold.

mynorthwest.com/1583148/lisa-h…

https://twitter.com/WA_Silenced_Maj/status/1191787771624476672

[Melinda]

Keto Alert!!!

[email protected] 🌟🌟🌟
@QTAnon1
America

Its now your CIVIC DUTY to eat Bacon!

Pork Pile-Up Continues: Bacon Levels In US Cold Storage Surge To 48-Year High | Zero Hedge zerohedge.com/markets/baco

https://twitter.com/QTAnon1/status/1191610315449856000

[JimNorCal]

Someone needs to make a video "Hitler learns of the bacon glut"

"Steiner ... Steiner's forces will eat it.
"Fuhrer ... um ...Fuhrer, Steiner ..."
"Steiner has turned vegan"

[Melinda]

MM-

Would that be an Overton Window being shifted?

[MissMarple2]

You mean not only are all of the equities at record highs, but BACON is at a record level?

Is there anything Donald J. Trump cannot do?

[henry]

Mark Meadows @RepMarkMeadows
10m

Seeing many overblown (and outright false) reports about Ambassador Sondland's testimony. Here's what he actually said.

1. I did not (and still don't) know why aid was held up
2. I "PRESUMED" it was because of corruption
3. I told Yermak my assumption

See paragraph 4 here:

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1191810986082258944

[MissMarple2]

https://heartlanddiaryusa.com/2019/11/05/greg-jones-tells-our-story-how-real-conservatives-took-back-the-republican-party/

Very interesting. The democrats do not realize how their anti-American stance drove people away, and the Never Trumpers do not realize how much they are despised by normal people.

[Jane]

Well then lower the price!

[Jane]

I hate to say this but it's so bloody hot outside, it feels like July.

How rude!

[Melinda]

Storage indicates not available to public marketplace, artificial shortages. Pork belly prices establish bacon market pricing.

And ne'er the twain shall meet.

Until the Govt gets out of the stockpiling biz.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Trump may need to release bacon from The Strategic Pork Bellies Reserve to offset the Organization of Porcine Exporting Countries cartel.

[Jim Eagle]

jane,

78F here. Nice breeze off the ocean. I think the east coast of Florida gets to lower temps than the west coast because of the Gulf being an enclosed heat sink. Enjoy your Autumn:)

[Jane]

The leaves are definitely not changing.

Re: Quid pro quo: If you read the transcript it's hard to see a quid pro quo.

[Narciso]

What i figured, its like the courtroom sceme in bananas.

[Narciso]

Bit on the wet side over here.

[Tom R]

Seen on Twitter:

How are Democrats supposed to win in 2020 if we can't even get Sean Spicer off Dancing With The Stars?

[Melinda]

"You don't need to read the transcript. Trust me."--

Modern Day Schiffisms.

[Melinda]

Praying Medic
@prayingmedic
Question: "The whistleblower laws protect the whistleblower. You know it's illegal to out a whistleblower?"

Sen. @RandPaul: "Actually, you see you've got that wrong." pic.twitter.com/2FpiKo6Li1

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1191766167146221569

(Link goes to clip of reporter trying to school Sen. Rand Paul, who in turn gets schooled.)

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! Yeah,it is hot here,but I'm not complaining! When the locals complain,I guess it is really hot and we've heard lots of complaints. :)
The dog goes out on the lanai to chase geckos and decides it is too hot and barks to come inside.

[Narciso]

Those words they are using:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/05/real-talk-impeachment-is-going-poorly-for-democrats-and-the-media/

[MissMarple2]

Last week’s NAEP results painted a disturbing picture. Our education “system” is failing entire communities. $1 trillion in federal spending has done nothing to close the achievement gap. It’s time to #RethinkSchool because our students deserve better and we can do better. pic.twitter.com/bAbp2nUIef

— Secretary Betsy DeVos (@BetsyDeVosED) November 5, 2019

Video at the link.

I, myself, would prefer to go back to the "old school" way of doing things. It seems when we "re-think school" it always ends up getting more messed up.