South of the Border

This is appalling:

9 Members of Mormon Family in Mexico Are Killed in Ambush

Six children were among the victims in a massacre attributed to organized crime, relatives said. Other children were rescued, some of whom hid along a roadside.

 

 

Comments

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Just checked. My Prog library in SVL doesn't carry Lee Smith's Plot Against the President.
I still have a valid card for the nearby Cupertino library. They have 1 copy with 17 holds. Now 18 LOL.

[James D.]

$1 trillion in federal spending has done nothing to close the achievement gap.

It was never intended to.

It was intended to produce students who are ignorant of history, and deficient in life skills, to make them less self-sufficient and this more reliable Democrat voters. And it has succeeded dramatically in that aim.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/04/donald-trump-rips-joe-biden-gaffes-sleepy-joe-get-off-the-damn-stage/

[Narciso]

The big story,

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/293535/the-revolt-against-iran

[Captain Hate]

4 copies in the Cleveland system with 3 more ordered. 49 holds.

[GUS]

If we have the TRANSCRIPT, why do we need the analysis and opinion of former OBAMA employees.

Oh!! Oh!! It's part of 4-D. It's kind of like GLOBAL WARMING, ......everything IS PART OF GLOBAL WARMING.

[GUS]

Jack are you watching Ajax @ Chelsea.

UNBELIEVABLE.

[henry]

A strategic bacon reserve for when the African swine flu gets to this continent, might be a real good idea.

[Buckeye]

Once teachers were no longer allowed to discipline students, achievement gap exploded.

Thugs in the cities are basically telling the teachers to eff off, with no consequences.

Not rocket science.

[Robin]

I am fully in favor of an overhaul of how we fund public education, which is where I think DeVos is going. I want to emulate the Arizona model, which is essentially vouchers that can be spent however a family chooses.

We deliberately chose to live in our school district because of the public alternative middle/high school that pperates a bit like a charter school and is basically grandfathered in as it was a 70's era experiment that has enough support in the community to keep the money grubbers from shutting it down, as they desire to do every 10 years or so.

The problem is that the school has a lottery system and the demand is incredibly high - last year only 41% of the applicants gained admission. People start questioning whether to continue to fund it whenever budget cuts are in view.

[Tom R]

Buckeye @ 4:36

My assistant principal in high school was also the head football coach. He had a wooden paddle with holes in it and every single student knew if they got into a fight, got caught smoking or broke whatever rule they were going to his office and getting their ass whacked.

[clarice]

Why don't you people bitch to the librarians about not stocking enough copies of books people really want to read?

[Dave (in MA)]

Just sayin',

United States Weather Sturbridge, MA 53° F

[Pinandpuller]

Popeye’s new Chicken Sandwich is proudly made in the USA with zero added Impulse Control.

TFW Popeye’s tries to autocorrect to Pope yeah.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--I am fully in favor of an overhaul of how we fund public education,--

I am even more in favor of abolishing public education.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

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[Jack is Back!]

GUS,

One of the most unusual games I have ever watched. Just in credible. But how can 11 guys not beat 9. Plus hand ball on Tammy was a bad call. Too many Own Goals for Chelsea.

Of course I am biased since I am a Chelsea supporter.

[Jack is Back!]

Off to dinner. Meatloaf or Shrimp & Grits?

[Buckeye]

Shrimp & Grits

[Buckeye]

TomR

Same experience in high school except it was the Gym teacher.

His arms were the size of my thighs.

I learned the hard way once.

[clarice]

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/11/04/number-democrats-showing-trump-rallies-stunning/

[GUS]

Tammy is now a bonafide EPL star. Fun to watch and tall.

[GUS]

Milwaukee public schools are a cross betweeen a JUVENILE PRISON, and a BABY SITTING outfit.

THANK YOU FULL COMMIES. Good work.

[clarice]

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/11/05/devin-nunes-house-gop-will-call-adam-schiff-first-witness-theres-precedent/?fbclid=IwAR1qQ9w9boxbZZmQvT26P4ekrP8Xa1AONnhpZcmj4Vx75n5JkdhRmEW_xzQ

[Jane]

That might make me happy Dave. Still 91 here. How rude!

[clarice]

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/293535/the-revolt-against-iran?fbclid=IwAR3OnU8DPLi0UXTS8mcoxwfOqpbqfk5FU04ST-atbBtNN-vArTHOoVgRY1A

[GUS]

Jane it's 34 in Oconomowoc WI..

[MissMarple2]

https://www.wishtv.com/news/inside-indiana-business/omalley-to-serve-as-poling-chair-of-business-at-iu/

I am not wanting this guy in my state!

[henry]

Solomon. State though Biden “owned” Burisma issue.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/in-midst-of-2016-election-state-department-saw-burisma-as-joe-bidens-issue-memos-show/

[Marlene]

Shrimp and Grits are my guilty pleasure here in Florida. Yummy!

[jimmyk]

What’s the JOM take on this new testimony by Sondland on the quid pro quo? Haven’t read the transcript but it seems like it’s all his subjective understanding of what Rudy might have been thinking. Hardly a smoking gun, but the NYT and WaPo are in an orgasmic state.

[MissMarple2]

MMCOWRD (AKA.. MadCow)
@MMCOWRD
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1h
For those who don't understand AMLO's statement, the Mexican Constitution will not allow any foreign military help in the country.

[Melinda]

OKeefe follows up::

UPDATE: @ABC Insider leaks internal network email to @Project_Veritas; email spreads statement from President @jamesgoldston and @arobach that is almost identical to statement given to @NPR three months ago.

#EpsteinCoverup

https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1191813217238102017?s=21

[Tom R]

This seems pretty bizarre. The article claims the Mormons killed today in Mexico are connected to the NXIVM sex cult.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/women-killed-in-mexican-cartel-murders-had-alleged-ties-to-sex-cult-nxivm/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Melinda]

More OKeefe:

https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1191813553659006977?s=21

[Tom R]

jimmyk @ 5:36

Congressman Mark Meadows essentially says its a nothingburger and that Schiff is twisting the words of what Sondland actually said.

[MissMarple2]

Tom R,

Just got a text from a friend alerting me to that NXIVM connection. I honestly don't know what to think.

[anonamom]

31 holds on 4 copies on order for my library

[Melinda]

The “transcripts” from the “inquiry” I’m sure came straight from the court reporter, Ms. Damasay Chiffsay.

[Jane]

Go to Amazon and buy it. I paid top dollar, it's cheaper now, and it was worth every cent. If I lend it out, I'm charging a fee til it's brought back.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--What’s the JOM take on this new testimony by Sondland on the quid pro quo? --

My take is;
1. Withholding aid to get that crooked family behind bars is a public service worthy of a medal.
2. Lying Dem spin cycle #5348 since mid 2016.

[Jane]

Except to Marlene because I know where she lives!

[Jane]

Plus because it's so fact specific i need some people with a better memory.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/11/05/how-trump-exposed-the-conservative-intelligentsia/

[Narciso]

This guy is the mifsud specialist,
You see other places where he has spoken out here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CJBdingo25/status/1191368910613962752

[GUS]

Miss Marple, I think it has something to do with "Binders".

[Marlene]

Thanks Jane! I read the Strassel book on my Kindle and hubby is mad because he wants to read it. :) I'd like to read Mollie Hemingway's book,but I don't know how much my BP can take.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

The MollieH book Justice on Trial is terrific

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/04/nats-star-ryan-zimmerman-message-trump/

[JM Hanes]

jimmyk:

Wish I could remember for sure, but I believe I read Sondland's "new" testimony consists of saying something like, on second thought he had "come to believe" there was a quid pro quo. So it's not new facts, just a revised opinion.

[clarice]

TomR and MM, read the damn Post story--they recruited girls from there to be nannies in upstate NY using as a ploy they'd be out of danger. Doesn't mean the group was part of that cult.

[GUS]

We have the TRANSCRIPT and we have SONDLANDS' SECOND OPINION.

Pretty easy huh??

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

Will do!

[Narciso]

Yes but its a meg ryan state.

[JM Hanes]

It's come to this, as we knew it inevitably would, of course:

Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say

I don't think I even need to bother commenting on where this comes from and where it's going, do I?

[jimmyk]

“Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say”

Be my guest, go right ahead, scientists.

[Narciso]

What does this mean;

https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1191855891211079681

[JM Hanes]

Further to my quest to identify races where my $$ might be most effective:

The 10 most vulnerable senators in 2020: Republicans play defense

The 10 most vulnerable House members in 2020: Democrats dominate

Do y'all know anything about any of these folks?

[Melinda]

Here comes the next phase of Alinsky::

Tymoshenko, who served as prime minister of Ukraine from January to September 2005 and again from December 2007 to March 2010, met Rudy Giuliani — just as the Trump-Rudy back-channel diplomatic campaign in Kyiv was heating up.

https://twitter.com/democracyjourno/status/1191852327482855424?s=21

(It’s BuzzFeed, so you know it’s straight outta Brock.)

[GUS]

Yes..."scientists say".

Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaaha

[Melinda]

And fresh Sidney::

#VanGrack just advised by letter that he got the authors of the raw notes backwards!! Since March 2018 when first disclosed! All the more reason to require originals of everything without redactions, handwriting samples, all 302s, audit trail, metadata-entire file!
@GenFlynn

https://twitter.com/sidneypowell1/status/1191854192878592000?s=21

[Captain Hate]

Texas Monthly, a pretty liberal magazine, published a nice epitaph on Beto's campaign, noting that he had destroyed his ability to ever run for office in Texas again. They had what I thought was a good take on how he went so wrong - first, he never realized that during his Senate run, he was totally a media creation, with fawning adulation. And that was all "look at young, hip, Moderate Beto, who is Friendly and Cool, compared to that nasty mean old Ted Cruz!!!"

Beto thought it was all about him and how great he was, but it was just marketing. So he went national thinking it would happen again, but here came Butttigieg, and he was the same as Beto but a point higher on the Victimology pyramid, so all of the media support dumped Beto and moved to the new exciting Gay Guy, who was otherwise the same.

This is where Beto should have started to try and develop his own political voice, but he panicked and decided he REALLY needed to go Total Woke to get the magic back. And that's when he started to talk about confiscating guns, and penalizing churches. His plan not only failed miserably, it was so badly thought out that it destroyed his chance to ever run for any public office again. Bye Bye Beto!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 06:01 PM (Kpl3J)

[GUS]

All this "opinion" from the FULL COMMIE. Zero evidence. Wait til the FISA info gets released.
You'll have EVIDENCE, not opinion.

[Narciso]

Yes her man mccallion sued firtash and lost a defamation charge, the notion there is a white knight anywhere in this fmr soviet sqtrap is dubious.

[Marlene]

JMH,Susan Collins is probably in for the run of her political life. Her opponent,Sara Gideon is an attractive and popular southern Maine candidate,although her campaign has already had some campaign money *issues*. Maine is trending blue,despite ME-02 going for Trump. The ME-02 Dem Congressman (Jared Golden) voted for the impeachment inquiry,so he got his marching orders. We heard lots of grumbling about Collins over the summer. She hasn't announced her run for a fifth term, but a good source told me that McConnell will put all his eggs ($$$) in the Collins basket before any other tight race.

[Narciso]

The team taylor kent vindman seem to overlap with tymochenkos term

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Marcy Wheeler's opinion of Sydney Powell is rather low.

[Momto2]

JMH - Still steaming from this comment "Perdue has his work cut out for him in this demographically shifting state. He needs to turn out rural, conservative voters who are loyal to the president, while not turning off well-educated, suburban voters repelled by Trump." What about well-educated suburban voters who love Trump? Just so pathetic...

Not sure how things will shake out in Georgia. I'm sure the Dems will pour $ into Ga. with an open seat at stake. I'm fairly confident Alabama will replace Doug Jones.

[Narciso]

Muellers star witness (or so she deluded herself into believing)

[clarice]

She's right, Iggy, in that Brady material is not ordinarily produced before a plea agreement, still this case is special and at a minimum he was purposely entrapped and was entitled to see the original interview notes.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Judith Curry on an interesting paper called Escape From Model Land.

[MissMarple2]

Momto2,

I am with you. I have a BA, live in the suburbs, and LOVE President Trump!

I am way tired of hearing people trash him. I do not find him vulgar or abrasive, I find him charming and friendly, a few cuss words don't bother me, and I LIKE the guy!

President Trump is way smarter than the news people think. How do they think the President has gotten all of this stuff done?

[Captain Hate]

The Children of the Cornhole doing what they do best

https://newrepublic.com/article/155602/booing-trump-corrects-media-bias

[Jane]

Marlene,

You and hubby can come over and pick 2 - I think I have 6. I’ve got a day or 2 left on this one and I’ll either read andy McCarthy or Strassel next. If hubby wants Strassel, I’ll concede for a week!

[Jane]

Great conversation on Lou Dobbs about renaming the drug cartels “terrorist organizations”. Changes all the rules.

[Jane]

Bevin is leading. I don’t think that was expected before last night.

[Another Bob]

Re. the latest FBI screwup in the Flynn case, when does this judge decide he’s had enough of being embarrassed by the government turning his courtroom into a clown show?

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Brady material is not ordinarily produced before a plea agreement--

I find that a thumb on the scale of justice in favor of the prosecution that is incompatible with the American theory of justice.
It allows the prosecution to suppress exculpatory material that would in many cases no doubt lead to a different or no plea agreement if it were revealed.
I don't care if it's a pedophile, a rapist or a serial killer case; it allows the state to unduly pressure a citizen into confessing to a crime without actually charging him with it until after he confesses. It is institutionalized, SCOTUS approved prosecutorial abuse IMO.

[Marlene]

Okay Jane,I'll be in touch. We are bringing Scout to a new kennel on Thursday for a temperament test. Ha,I hope he doesn't flunk the test.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

That Cornhole article is not only logically ludicrous but delusional.

[henry]

Iggy, I agree on the Brady Material. The objective is s just result, not an inflated kill count for a prosecutor.

[Narciso]

I noticed sonora where the atrocity happened, was the base of the caro quintero who was the one behinf the camarena kidnap and murder.

[Tom R]

Clarice @ 6:19

I suggest you take your own advice and read the story as well. Once you do you will see that my comment was correct. According to the article, the Mormon community these slain Americans lived in was CONNECTED to the NXIVM sex cult.

The outpost Mormon community in Mexico is where underlings of Nxivm leader Keith Raniere recruited young women to work as nannies in an upstate New York compound run by the accused cult — suggesting at least in part that the jobs would get the girls away from their home region’s drug violence, according a man hired by Raniere to produce a documentary about the group.

Do you really think the recruited young women actually ended up working as nannies?

[Narciso]

Organization, that became the heart of the sinaloa cartel, guzman loeras.

[Captain Hate]

Lots of hanging judges at the Marcy Wheeler site ready to toss rights of the accused in the wood chipper. Must be prosecutors with substance problems.

[Jane]

We know for sure the WP and NYT made up stories to aid and abet the deep state. I don’t see any chance at consequences except exposure. Can someone tell me I’m wrong?

[MissMarple2]

Ugh. Hoggsett the Democrat was re-elected mayor by a fairly large margin.

That means more potholes unfilled and more electric buses. Plus a democrat in charge of the elections next November.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--According to the article, the Mormon community these slain Americans lived in was CONNECTED to the NXIVM sex cult....
...Do you really think the recruited young women actually ended up working as nannies?--

I believe clarice was referring to the connotation that "connected to" means "a part of" not "a victim of"; a connotation I noted myself.
It may not have been the intended implication but that's what it sounded like.

[lurkersusie]

Stacking the jury

Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
·
Obama-appointed judge allows anti-Trumper whose husband worked on DOJ's Russia probe to remain in Roger Stone jury pool.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/05/roger-stone-judge-anti-trump-juror/

[Another Bob]

Janice Dean rips Any Robach a new one...

“ “I was caught in a private moment of frustration...” Give me a break. If you’ve got a camera in front of you in a studio with a mic on, you’re not in private. What a bunch of baloney. Own it, @arobach. Shame on @abcnews. God bless the victims.”

https://twitter.com/janicedean/status/1191765615708659715?s=21

[Jane]

Joe Biden has an editorial in USA Today sayin Trump has no idea what he is doing on Foreign policy. It’s almost as funny as it is pathetic.

[Another Bob]

Bevin 53-48 with 40+% in.

[henry]

And there goes another deep state money spigot:

@WSJ

The Justice Department says it is stepping up efforts to target bid-rigging and other types of collusion that cheat the government in the contracting process

[Catsmeat]

Ig, Marcy didn't know when she wrote that that the DOJ has just fessed up that the two agents' notes were mixed up--whoops! The whole question of which agent wrote what when is hugely important and it looking like Pientka was not the main note-taker but our friend Peter S., who was of course out for blood.

[Tom R]

Iggy @ 7:58

The article could use more details but based on the choice of wording it sounds to me like it was Mexican girls getting recruited as sex slave, not white Mormon girls.

...the jobs would get the girls away from their home region’s drug violence

Would that region in Mexico be the home region to white Mormon girls? Also, sounds like that Mormon community is a mission. They wouldn't need to become nannies to escape the drug cartel violence. They would just go back to their permanent home in the US.

[Narciso]

Marcy had a soft spot for terrorists like awlaki, im old enough to remember that.

[lurkersusie]

Haha...

Anthony Scaramucci on Twitter: "You may be proud of your “Where’s Hunter?” T-shirt...but we’re really proud of ours...You see, we know where Mitt is...he’s listening, he’s hearing, he’s seeing, he’s reading and he’s coming.... https://t.co/sCUTWW6IHA #...

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Elizabeth Warren's 'Meme Team' Flops Spectacularly on Launch Day.
Features this excellent nick for her in the comments;
"Pocahonky"

[Narciso]

How about we wait till the funeral heh tom r,

[Narciso]

Huh tom r, the fact that family lost two siblings back 10 years ago.