What Next With Gallagher And The Navy SEALs?

The Navy Secretary is now out. Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher's status seems to be unclear, although a Pentagon spokesman said on Sunday that Gallagher would keep his Trident pin and retain his SEAL status.

David French (a former JAG officer) looked at this in July and thought Gallagher's acquittal on the main charges was correct.

As to the wisdom of Trump exerting his power as Commander-in-Chief and disrupting the normal system of military justice, I don't know. I don't normally think of the military as overcome with PC, nor is Trump a model of calm, judicious reflection. 

I suspect people have opinions.

Comments

[henry]

Wait... a military that spends it's time on gender sensitivity training instead of navigation is not PC crazy? Can I have some of what you were smoking during the Obama years?

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

TK: "I suspect people have opinions"

Mine: I stand with the People, against the Elites. In this case with Gallagher, against the insubordinate brass.

[henry]

Big fuss in town. Apparently the Council meets while drunk or something.

https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/waterford-may-have-violated-first-amendment-by-blocking-committee-member/article_8dac3958-a7d6-5c5e-803b-eb8156290002.html

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

From the prev thread:

"I mentioned Fedposting at one point:

Wendel Schwab
@WenSchw
Nazis are people.
...
And they still deserve to be shot.
That's very fucking important.
Some people have replied with "there aren't any Nazis anymore." Guess what? I hate to break it to you: they're in the White House, making policy and getting their sick, twisted ideology made into law."

Where are the camps?
The ones where people like WenSchw are shot.
Not the ones built by Obama which separate illegals from their (claimed) children.

[rse]

Tom is clearly not hearing the stories out of west point, annapolis, and the air force academy in co. Plus there is all that catering to cair.

Plus the debacle with trying to make all combat positions open to women even if the essence of the requirements had to be substantially 'modified'.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

If RBG was a conservative:
The NYT/WaPo/CNN would post articles every single day about how she falls asleep in hearings.
Reporters would buy drinks, offer sex and drugs to clerks in order to find out if she does any work. Or if the clerks keep it all going behind closed doors while RBG naps.
Or they'd just make up stories with no evidence.
If RBG was a conservative.

[Jim Eagle]

TM,

The military leadership has been turned upside down under Clinton & Obama. W was more concerned with wounded warriors than his DoD leadership. Now, Trump is trying to right the ship and create a disciplined military outside the PC culture first inculcated at the Academies. Take McRaven, non-academy, who writes an OpEd without fear of the UMCJ. And in that OpEd challenges Trump's position on using the military to keep America great not to keep Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan rich with terror.

BTW, in regards that cash flow curve of the Clinton Foundation, it tells me that she will run again, if only to squeeze some donor cash while basically doing her usual lazy campaigning.

[Narciso]

Yes recall the brethren and closed chambers by lazarus, which zeroed in on one of scalias clerks capaccio.

[GUS]

First and foremost.....our "HOST", is not a Conservative. I don't recall him being verklempt about OBAMA vis a vis BERGDAHL and MANNING. Their behaviors were ANTI-AMERICAN to the EXTREME.
Obama stepping in was WONDERFUL back then.
The NAVY, SPENCER in particular did not want to act in the MANNER that their CiC directed. BEEEEEEEEEEEG MISTAKE. But simply put, OBAMA ruined large portions of the MILITARY COMMAND.
Did I mention that our "HOST" is not in any way Conservative???

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

For the historians out there, has the current Dem pattern occurred in the GOP in the last, say, 100 years?
They have many candidates, but so weak politically and intellectually that with one year to go before election (and mere months to go before crucial primaries), major new mostly wealthy self-funding candidates step forward (Steyer, Bloomberg plus penniless Deval Patrick) or are rumored as 'might step forward' ((Hillary, Michelle, Oprah)?

Has this happened in the GOP in living memory? I can't think of a time, the Dem clown car campaign seems historically extraordinary.

[Another Bob]

TM: “ I don't normally think of the military as overcome with PC”

I’d normally let that pass with an eyeroll, but dammit TM you’re simply not paying attention. At. All. The military is a swamp unto itself.

TM: “nor is Trump a model of calm, judicious reflection.”

And that’s just a lazy strawman.

Gallagher’s treatment seems to bear some hallmarks of some ambitious O-5 or O-6 disliking him and looking to make points by feeding an exaggerated story to the chain. Then the flag lions start roaring only to remind everyone they’re the lions.

I can easily see some admirals thinking they needed to remind the SEALs who’s in charge, and if Gallagher was ruined in the process, well that’s the cost of their idea of “good order”.

Was any officer charged in relation to these events?

[Narciso]

It came from some squabbies who were upset over boot camp but it was rubberstanped by some superiors.

[MissMarple2]

I agree with Jack.

I posted a Twitter thread by a career military guy some days ago in which he explained how much the enlisted guys and junior officers LOVE President Trump.

They consider that he actually cares about them and they have seen improvement in pay, equipment, medical care (both in military hospitals and the VA) and more intelligent use of troop deployment.

To have someone publicly dispute him as the former Navy Secretary did is not acceptable, and had he not done something there would have been more public spouting off by Obama-era types. That simply cannot be allowed.

[GUS]

Do we have our first TRANNIE Navy Sec yet??
Now would be the appropriate time.
It would be so "judicious" and such.

[MissMarple2]

I have to dispute the "Nor a model of calm, judicious reflection" insult in a separate post.

President Trump did NOT fire all of the ambassadors immediately like President Obama did.

He has put up with the 2-year Mueller investigation and this sham impeachment without much more than some Twitter insults.

He has managed to accomplish a lot of things including tax reductions, prison reform, and relative peace in the Middle East.

He answers FAR more press questions than President Obama ever did.

Last night he, Melania, and Barron were at his hotel in DC, and he stopped to shake many hands while people applauded them. He seems very calm and friendly to me. (I posted a link to the video at the end of the last thread.)

The level of attacks he has tolerated would have broken any other president. I consider him exceptionally patient!

[Narciso]

From the last travismockasham

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/11/spot-the-crime-in-progress.php

[sbwaters]

TM: the normal system of military justice

Assumes facts not in evidence.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
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“President Trump is facing a process which is unprecedented for its unfairness.” Sam Dewey

[James D.]

President Trump did NOT fire all of the ambassadors immediately like President Obama did.

Or all the US Attorneys, as Bill Clinton did.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Support for Impeachment is dropping like a rock, down into the 20’s in some Polls. Dems should now get down to work and finally approve USMCA, and much more!

[lurkersusie]

We keep seeing this ad on TV.
No comment yet from from our Representative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX5LSOD1TLs

[Narciso]

Frenchs mustard throws everyone under the bus, except possibly the good colonel.

[Buckeye]

lurkersusie

Cunningham will likely keep his mouth shut and his finger in the air as long as he can.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Deplorable Don Surber, I saw this linked at Insty but checkout the details noted by Don.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/11/highlights-of-news_25.html

"The China Law Blog reports on the kinds of questions that western businesses operating in China are raising; China's serious economic downturn and rising authoritarianism (snip)

"A new post on the site describes the consequences of a sharp downturn in the Chinese economy: a new mood among many Chinese businesspeople that they are at the end of the long Chinese boom and that there's no reason not to burn their bridges with non-Chinese firms, because they're not going to be doing business with them for much longer no matter what."

The story said, "Western firms hiring Chinese manufacturers find themselves taking delivery of junk that is totally unlike the samples they received before placing their main orders; discovering that their trademarks have been registered in China by their manufacturers (which means they can't change suppliers, since the crooked manufacturer now owns the exclusive right to produce their products); finding that their manufacturers have disappeared (or that they never existed in the first place); and claims by Sinosure, the Chinese state-owned insurer that is supposed to protect Chinese manufacturers who've been stiffed by foreign partners, have exploded, as the insurer's foreign offices file legal claims against Western businesses that are having disputes with manufacturers."

[hoyden]

Maybe in hindsight it was an unforced error to not fire all the Obama attorneys and ambassadors.

[JohnH]

JiB, you asked last night about experience in giving a car as XMAS gift. One year I gave my wife a “new”, used AUDI A4 cabriolet. Lots of considerations for me. Sorta like our money to begin with so is it really a gift? She would have said no if asked. Stopped at the dealership on our way home from work. Surprise! Red bow. She drove it home in snow flurries with the top down and heat cranked (Wisconsin late Dec).

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Another item noted in the Surber piece
"3 SEALS who testified on #EddieGallagher behalf are now being retaliated against. Lt. Cmdr. Robert Breisch, Lt. Jacob Portier and Lt. Thomas MacNeil may also be at risk for losing their TRIDENTS. Please show them your support"

It's just a twitter post, no proof offered but something to track.

[MissMarple2]

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/fusion-gps-interview-glenn-simpson-on-the-steele-dossier.html

Julie Kelly linked this in a thread, in which she says she is really curious who thought it was a good idea to trot Glenn Simpson out right now. She highlights some of the bizarre statements in the article in her thread, in case you don't want to read the entire thing.

https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1198961575081762816

[Tom R]

The organization that leaked the Panama Papers has another expose this time on the ChiComms.

https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/exposed-chinas-operating-manuals-for-mass-internment-and-arrest-by-algorithm/

[MissMarple2]

I now have to call the service company for an appointment for our furnace. It's either the sensor, blower motor, or thermostat.

I talked to the husband of a friend yesterday and that is his opinion. The thing kicks on every 5 minutes, runs for a minute or two, and then goes off. Sometimes it doesn't kick on at all, then it will go through that on-off cycle for an hour.

I hope they can come this afternoon, and I will be able to keep Maggie outside so that she won't "supervise." Jack I can put in my bedroom.

[Narciso]

The aforementioned squabbies who set this plot in motion.

[henry]

Did Fusion GPS hire Prince Andrew's PR staff?

[Sandy Daze]

PRESIDENT TRUMP loves the Navy in particular, and all services more generally.
Often when a guest in the Whitehouse, you'll see him with the Navy flag behind. President Trump is more 'image aware' than any president, ever. There's a message here, but the Nav doesn't have its receivers on. For example:

[Sandy Daze]

But the Navy, like the other services I suspect, but I observe the Navy more closely, has become infected with globalists.

SAD !

BAD !

HULK MUST SMASH !

[sbwaters]

Hey, MT!

Which Roland keyboard? Which Apple Python app?

Thnx.

[Narciso]

Remember that heater issue last year, another contractor aaid it was the control board that wasnt available.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--As to the wisdom of Trump exerting his power as Commander-in-Chief and disrupting the normal system of military justice--

Gallagher was sentenced in July. He was at the stage now where other completely discretionary disciplines might or might not be enforced. Trump as CiC is part of that process and so there was nothing disruptive or even particularly abnormal for the top dog to prevent a lower dog from biting someone.
Among the enlisted especially, the enforcement of the UCMJ has never been considered particularly fair or non-arbitrary. In the last couple of decades of lawfare and fastidious PC prosecutions over sexual harassment and Islamic niceties it is rightly despised as a club for enforcing unserious and arbitrary political bullshit.

[Narciso]

The dinghy as usual misses the boat. (See what i did there)

[Melinda]

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You can dunk on Mike Bloomberg for running for President, but he’s the only candidate to successfully implement a wealth tax on Wall Street. 😬

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

CNN Determined to Normalize 'Throuple' Queen Katie Hill
This chick is mental.

[Sandy Daze]

I cannot fathom that the Navy/NavSpecWarCom who continue down the path of Trident Review Board for the other SEALs.

Mentioned earlier that these are outsized men with outsized personalities, and outsized opinions.

BUT, it would be a case of outsized stupidity to pursue a Trident review after the Gallagher imbroglio. I don't think even SEAL leadership is that stupid.

Or, as Jim Croce wrote/sang:

Yeah you don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Slim

https://youtu.be/TajUFGstkk4

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

TONTITOWN, AR—In a surprising turn of events, the Duggar family discovered a kid they forgot they even had in the cushions of their living room couch Tuesday morning.
The boy apparently subsisted on Goldfish crackers, cheese sticks, and juice boxes that got dropped in the cushions as he waited for rescue for several years.

[MissMarple2]

Does any of this surprise you?

Does anybody this surprise you? It shouldn’t, Warren lied about being a Native American to advance her career. When asked if she was running for president during her Senate re-election bid, Warren said no. #Pattern https://t.co/7WrRi9FpMY

— Corey R. Lewandowski (@CLewandowski_) November 25, 2019

Link goes to a Boston Herald article pointing out her pattern of lying.

[joan]

There is nothing that President Trump has done, no decision he has made, no matter how pro-American or positive for our nation or its citizens that will be applauded by east or west coast liberals. They are blinded by foolish arrogance and contempt, both for the president and his voters.

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1198970612926099458

Leaked 2-part phone call between Victoria Nuland and the former Ukranian ambassador during the Obama administration.

[Jim Eagle]

AB,

Gallagher was the only enlisted to be pardoned, the other 2 were officers, one 1st Lt. and the other a Major.

[Jim Eagle]

But now that I have reread your comment I see where you were referring to the action Gallagher saw. My apologies, AB.

[henry]

Hmmm:

Kimberly Robinson @KimberlyRobinsn
10m

#SCOTUS won’t hear No 19-345 Johnson v City of Ferguson, dismissing civil right suits against Ferguson officers related to the 2014 killing of Michael Brown.

[MissMarple2]

My daughter has a friend with 2 young boys. Yesterday she found the Elf-on-the-SHelf in the trash.

She asked them why they had put it there. The older one said that it was STARING at them and was creepy.

She asked them what they thought Santa would say.

He tol her "That's on you. YOU bought it!"

LOL!

[Rocco]

MissM,

My furnace kept turning off so I searched a bit on line and found that it was cycling on and off three times before shutting itself off. The culprit was a dirty flame sensor rod and whn I told the repairman what I found, he agreed and after he cleaned it, it worked fine. That's my guess, a soot covered flame sensor rod.

Good luck in any event.

[Dave (in MA)]

Impeachment polling is not heading in the direction they'd hoped--so they dug up some old audio from a couple of years ago of the strip mall rub & tug billionaire criticizing him.

[MissMarple2]

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/25/blockbusters-buried-in-the-ig-report-on-fbi-misuse-of-confidential-sources/

This is important.

I STILL want those 302's abolished unless recordings of interviews are also done.

I don't mind an agent supplementing a recorded interview with his observations, but without a recording, an agent can make stuff up and there is no way to refute it.

[henry]

This guy expects another dud from Horowitz.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/whitewash-ig-report-on-fisa-abuses-by-obama-administration-will-disappoint-the-right/

I'll wait to see if the report shows up, then worry about what's in it.

[D]

Henry:
That is a good strategy.

[MissMarple2]

Rocco,

Thanks!

[MissMarple2]

Furnace guy will be here between 12 and 2. Now I can have 1 more cup of coffee before I get busy.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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34m
“The Democrats are getting hit and slammed on Impeachment. It is getting less and less popular by the day.” @kilmeade
@foxandfriends

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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25m
Another new Stock Market Record. Enjoy!

[MissMarple2]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2019/11/24/even-vanity-fair-knows-n2556996

Headline:

Uh Oh: Lefty Media Realizing Impeachment May Be Bad for Democrats

[MissMarple2]

Reuters
@Reuters
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Wall Street opens higher as report sparks trade deal hopes https://reut.rs/2XJmf0J

[henry]

Gus:

Guitar exhibit. Page etc.

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/the-met-plays-it-loud/

[MissMarple2]

CBS DELETED this entire episode from their official website... pic.twitter.com/jbzdiMZWBb

— I STAND WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP☆ (@martucci_peter) November 17, 2019

Video at link.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I wish the Navy would focus on not crashing their ships into other ships than pursue vendettas against the people they send out to do the dirty work.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

"Warren lied about being a Native American to advance her career. When asked if she was running for president during her Senate re-election bid, Warren said no"
And now，the lie "my kids went to public school"

If Joe goes to jail ....
If Warren self-combusts ....
Who's the next front runner?
Sanders? He's not even a Dem.

I'd still be interested to hear responses to my 8:30 question

[Rocco]

Agree matt, and if they weren't colliding with commercial vessels, they were being seized by Iran.

[MissMarple2]

Jim,

The last time I remember a lot of democrat candidates was in 1960. Seems like there were 6 or so and Kennedy ended up winning. That is the closest to the situation they have now, and most of the dems then (although I was only in the 7th grade) seemed more normal.

I cannot see how any of these misfits can defeat President Trump, and that includes both Biden and Bloomberg. He will roll over either in the debates like a steamroller.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

MissM that 11:15 is priceless

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

MissM, have we ever had a clown car like this on the Repub side?
That was my question

[Rocco]

A basic safe boating course teaches who has the right of way when two vessels meet in a crossing situation. Briefly, the rule states that any vessel approaching yours from dead ahead, say 12:00 o'clock to about 22 1/2 degrees abaft the starboard beam or roughly 4:00 o'clock is called the stand on vessel and must maintain her course and speed so the give way vessel, your vessel, knows exactly what the stand on vessel will do. I hope that makes sense.

Take a look at where the Fitzgerald was hit.

https://gcaptain.com/high-resolution-photos-us-navy-destroyer-collision/

[Buckeye]

JimSunny

I think the Dems thought Biden was their "safe" establishment play, and letting the other libtards mouth off for a while was harmless.

Then the Hunter fiasco happens and the libtards run the train off the track, and their play went from OK, to gloomy, to really dark.

I don't think Steyer, Bloomberg or Patrick will get many excited.

Real question is whether Michelle or Oprah get their arm twisted. They would be more formidable and more attractive than Curb Dive.

Curb Dive will of course offer herself up as the savior if no strong potential candidate emerges.

[MissMarple2]

Buckeye,

Oprah can try, but first she will have to overcome the MANY videos of her sucking up to President Trump and suggesting he sounded like a president.

Michelle is not going to run. I used to think she would, but they have their millions and she enjoys flitting around to the glamorous places. By the way, what are those 2 girls doing?

[Buckeye]

By the way, what are those 2 girls doing?

Hard Seltzer and blow would be a good guess:)

[henry]

Calling Tupelov... your torpedo is here.

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/11/25/boomerang-liberal-watchdog-group-publishes-foia-documents-target-giuliani-fail-realize-documents-detail-bidenukraine-corruption/

[MissMarple2]

Jim,

The closest we had to this was 2016, when we had all of those candidates besides President Trump.

Of course all of the experts had picked Jeb, Cruz, or Walker but week after week, Donald Trump held center stage with the highest poll numbers.

That idea of rallies and collecting data from those who signed up was sheer genius. And let me tell you something, the rallies are FUN, which is something else the democrats haven't figured out.

As far as I know, last election was the most candidates we have ever had for the GOP. Usually there are 2-3, all expected to run for some time before they announced, and all pretty much boring. W had more personality than his dad, but look at who his campaign manager was! Mr. Boring himself, Karl Rove, who seems to have disappeared.

Interesting stuff to think about.

[JM Hanes]

TM:

And I thought I was late to the party when I posted my Spencer comment on the last thread!

In a nutshell, the one disrupting the system here was Spencer — contradicting his CiC in public, and trying to do an end run around his superior to get his own way and threatening to quit if he didn’t. That was before I read his resignation letter, which showed zero respect for the President or even the office he holds and zero recognition of his own disruptive behavior.

[clarice]

Yes, JMH.I agree.

[Melinda]

OK, that FOIA effup is funny.

[anonamom]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/historian-trump-one-of-americas-great-presidents-impeachment-no-scar

from Insty

[rich]

>>>MissM, have we ever had a clown car like this on the Repub side?
That was my question

Posted by: Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA | November 25, 2019 at 11:39 AM<<<

I was going to say 1980 but that sorted into a three horse race pretty quickly and Anderson tried the spoiler route after

maybe 1964 (getting well before my time) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

[MissMarple2]

anonamom,

Thanks for the article on the Trump biography! I am putting it on my Christmas list. (Bet my son will be the one who buys it, though. HA!)

[Tom R]

From the last thread...

Interesting: "Leveraging data from the American National Election Study, I demonstrate that the terms 'liberal' and 'conservative' are unfamiliar to many black Americans, rendering the commonly used 7-point liberal-conservative measure of ideology invalid for this population."

This reminds of something a Poli Sci professor told the class about public opinion polling over 30 years ago. The professor said you won't ever see a public opinion poll that breaks down education/income level by party affiliation. Instead the breakdown will always be using conservative and liberal labels.
The professor said it was a standard tactic for leftwing media organizations to count blacks as conservatives for any poll focusing on education levels, intelligence, income, etc. Since blacks historically have lower education levels than whites this allowed the leftwing media to create the narrative that liberals were more intelligent than conservatives. The justification is that since most blacks were Christians and opposed to homosexuality that made them social conservatives even though they almost always voted Democrat.

[Narciso]

Did you see ford vs ferrari

[rich]

let us not forget that Zero commuted Manning's sentence and pardoned Gen Cartwright ...

... there was another case from the Army that dragged on to (it was NJP which ended up morphing into a re-enlistment bar) ... in short Zero was pretty successful in ladling in creeps and weirdos in to the civilian personnel bureaucracy of the services as a gift that keeps on giving.

[rich]

>>>Did you see ford vs ferrari

Posted by: Narciso | November 25, 2019 at 12:36 PM<<<

not yet. i was busy this weekend and had to put it on the backburner.

[D]

JMH
Agree.These pompous blowhards including all those who testified last week need a lesson in humility.
They serve at the pleasure of the President.
Get with the program or get out.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

MissM: "The closest we had to this was 2016"
Yes, a lot of candidates but IMO they had heft. Governors of major states like Walker, Jeb and Perry, really important and smart senators like Cruz, CEOs like Carly and DJT.

The Dems have a LOT of candidates
And the quality is VERY low.

I don't recall Repubs scraping the barrel like this. But I guess looking back on Mitt and Mav maybe my standards are misaligned ...

Anyway, this is one for the history books.

[Tom R]

Steyn vs Mann defamation lawsuit allowed to proceed.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-supreme-court-lets-climate-144519288.html

[MissMarple2]

Get your answers in quick!

Who’s gonna be the first Trump-deranged lunatic to say something crappy about that dog? pic.twitter.com/ZqTF9aVKpQ

— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) November 25, 2019

Photo at link with President, Melania, and Conan the Wonder Dog.

Check out Melania's coat!!

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Amity Schlaes wrote the acclaimed Forgotten Man about the Great Depression. Her new book is about the Great Society. PLs Steve Hayward has a podcast up in which he interviews her about the book. It's really good.

I'm guessing the book is good too.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/11/the-power-line-show-ep-155-looking-back-at-the-great-society-with-amity-shlaes.php

[MissMarple2]

HAPPENING NOW: Conan the dog that killed terrorist is at the White House. Pres. Trump surprised media in the Rose Garden. https://t.co/LborbeOP2Q

— Kambree Kawahine Koa (@KamVTV) November 25, 2019

Video of whole press appearance with dog and VP Pence and Melania. 7 minutes.

[anonamom]

Maybe in hindsight it was an unforced error to not fire all the Obama attorneys and ambassadors.

Fixed that for you!

[JM Hanes]

Just catching up from 30,000 ft!

Jim, Sunny:

This difference between the big Republican crowd of contenders last time around and the Dem contenders now is that almost any one of our potential candidates would have been a competent President, notwithstanding their political appeal or lack thereof. The Dem contenders aren’t capable of running much of anything but their mouths.

[MissMarple2]

Still waiting on the furnace guy.

Off to put a load of laundry in. Then mopping. UGH.

[sbwaters]

almost any one of our potential candidates would have been a competent President

In a way, but which of them would have been able to take on the deep state and which of them would have?

[jimmyk]

amom is enjoying her new strike-out powers.

[Captain Hate]

Maybe in hindsight it was an unforced error to not fire all the Obama attorneys and ambassadors.

Maybe not in terms of priorities. Trump was an outsider with plenty of people, including his own party, wanting him to fail. His first order of business was making sure the essentials, like social security checks, continued without a high exposure hitch. Which they did.

The rest could come later. All the recent hijinx have done is blow huge gaping holes in the resistance.

[JM Hanes]

sbw:

I think we all know the answer to that. My point was simply to point out the most striking difference between the fields of contenders.

[Captain Hate]

almost any one of our potential candidates would have been a competent President

In a way, but which of them would have been able to take on the deep state and which of them would have?

I'm not sure any of them could have beaten The Beast. It's impossible to know that, based on how flawed the polling was, but my candidate in the primary, Ted Cruz, got significantly fewer votes in the 2016 general than Greg Abbott while running against a complete goofball.

[sbwaters]

Tired of Rich-Bitchin'.

Tell me, Liz, if someone is willing to pay a dollar to buy someone’s rendition of a song, how much of that dollar do you want to take away to give to others?

Explain to me why that cut you want to steal for others should be different if two, ten, or 10 million like the song?

You got envy, Liz. You got a bad case of envy.

[Captain Hate]

My 1:30 failed to note that JMH had mentioned that caveat further in her comment.