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December 31, 2019

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JM Hanes

henry:

I neglected to say that the trucker's "trial period" does not include benefits of any kind, which are promised to kick in after the 6 months of work.

Narciso

He believes in the bible, thats controversial

Dave (in MA)

3 out of those 5 guys exhibit floor-forehead syndrome.

Narciso


Crazy talk:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theroot.com/dont-put-your-race-before-being-christian-pastor-assur-1840746286/amp

henry

JMH, a benefits delay isn't restricted to trucking. It may be less common or a shorter period if recruiting is difficult.

Narciso

When your pension is 15% down, is that strictly looting or just oversight.

Captain Hate

OL,

We both want the same outcome, I think, just how it happens are the points of contention. If by 2024 everything is gift wrapped to universal satisfaction I promise not to pester anyone with told ya sos.

Narciso

Of course the fishwrap has to go digging:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article238749538.html

Narciso

Funny you never anything about any prog religious figure being 'controversial'

Tom R

Without the opposing POV expressed by the four or five of us here on the Ledge, JOM would be simply a chorus singing praises for Trump the saviour in whatever dimension and over whatever time frame you want

Who are these 4/5 people who share your opposing view? When it comes to finding a workable solution to fix a major problem, what kind of team members are more helpful? Those who keep trying to figure out possible solutions or the ones who keep saying there is no solution?

Old Lurker

Me too, Cap'n.

But what will you say if by 2024 the stock market, economy and jobs continue to boom but looking back not one single crime or criminal was ever prosecuted?

See, I worry that that might be where we are (even allowing for a recession along the way), and if that is the case in 2024, I might be rich but my grandkids will have no future since their country will be ungrounded.

Narciso

Not a single figure in the intelligence community has been indicted, much less arraigned amd convicted where anyone tangentially connected to trump had been targeted how do you explain that.

Old Lurker

You really are an argumentative asshole, TomR.

rich

Another Bob-

in reference to your Hillary and Obama comments and Narciso's followup comment.

Obama's campaign team was organizing college campuses (especially state flagship universities) as early as 2005 and the organizations his was building were used for the campus organizations for the 2006 midterms. I saw it at the flagship university I attended, and it explains well his numerous trips to Ohio State University and other flagship university visits (UNC comes to mind). I have to run so I'll have more when I check back into the comments later tonight.

Narciso

Thats what i recalled, vaguely

Narciso

But i outline the scope of the problem, atkinson was hiding in the bluff while they took down ra5cliffe. Ciaramella was rotated back to langley.

GUS

OL. He doesn't like being "attacked".

Captain Hate

Welp then I join the ledge, OL. I take my cues from Trump because the derp state had him in the crosshairs if The Beast had won. And still will if he leaves the job undone and the rest of us will be collateral damage. If he's satisfied why shouldn't I be?

Narciso

Vindman replaced ciaramella, he had arranged general flynns trip to geu headquarters.

Narciso

Whats known as the aquarium (thanks to suvorov)

Captain Hate

Opie speaks

Ron Howard@RealRonHoward
In the entertainment industry many who have known/worked w/ Trump think that while his reality show was fun and ran a long time, he's a self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniac who doesn't care about anything or anyone but his Fame and bank account and is hustling the US

That's why Forbes has estimated being POTUS has cost him $1.5B to date. The Mayberry village idiot. And quit wearing a ball cap all the fucking time; you're not fooling anybody.

Jane

"How does that work? "

My law firm still pays for it.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

CH: "Welp then I join the ledge, OL. I take my cues from Trump because the derp state had him in the crosshairs if The Beast had won. And still will if he leaves the job undone and the rest of us will be collateral damage. If he's satisfied why shouldn't I be?"

As a theoretical possibility DJT could cut a deal for his people and leave us exposed. I don't consider it likely but it's a reason we'll all sleep better at night if The Swamp is visibly drained and the baddies cry for mercy

Jane

"geu headquarters."

What is "geu"?

Narciso

Soviet military intelligence gru.

Neo

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1212558275427749890
Ouch

Jane

Amom,

https://www.amazon.com/Chervil-Penzeys-Spices-cup-jar/dp/B06XTWQ9GN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2KGAVQWO8T6DK&keywords=chervil+herb&qid=1577988618&sprefix=chervil%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3

henry

Penzey is a toxic leftist. Utterly deranged.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Has anyone ever done something like this?

"Court Seeks Candidates for Public Watchdog Agency - Santa Clara County Civil Grand Jury
The Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara is currently recruiting volunteers for the 2020-2021 Civil Grand Jury. The Civil Grand Jury, an arm of the Superior Court, is a part of the judicial branch of government. It serves as the county’s civil watchdog agency and may examine all aspects of county and city government, special districts, and school districts. It is authorized to inspect and audit books, records, and financial expenditures to ensure accountability of public funds. The Grand Jury may also inspect jails and juvenile detention facilities"

Old Lurker

Cap'n, Jim beat me to the right answer. I THINK Trump wants what I want but I am not certain of that. But for sure he wants a lot more of what I want than anybody else on the stage or in the wings, and you and I both know that includes both parties.

Melinda

Penzey’s Sane Ex-partner:

https://www.thespicehouse.com/products/chervil

Narciso


Awkward:


https://mobile.twitter.com/CJBdingo25/status/1212795470038388737

Narciso

So all these pieces of the cartel atlantic council link campus work together.

anonamom

This is the comment posted at Powerline that made me think OL was 'cheating' on us and posting over there--and why I am not on The Veranda. Still sittin' on the Dock of the bay for now--

txjon18 metanoia • 19 hours ago
An election cycle fluke like Trump and a somewhat normal reelection isn't going to do squat to avert the loss of the country. Perhaps a Trump loss will help people burn off delusion more quickly. The ends are already baked in. "Multiculturalism" is the demographic of empire. The Boomers are just doing it absent its customary caste system, which creates "official" monoculture, which is the only thing that holds it together - for a time. Our question is how the collapse will play out. Talk of "cultural institutions" is just Boomer babble, projecting their prior culture into the future, just absent the people of that culture. In other words, unsound assumption. Liberalism, the abstract concept of negative rights, is not culture. The Right touting "Liberalism" is touting cultural vacuum. So that all goes. The outer form will still remain, an economic zone. The "culture" will be that zone stimulating consumption, appeals to desire. The discussions "Conservatives" have always assume some degree of abstraction, "standards" are abstraction, "principles" etc. These are cultural artifacts. We already see the absence of these in the public space. We should understand our discussion as a fading light.

MissMarple2

DIGENOVA: Comey & Brennan Were The Coup Leaders

These Two Institutions, FBI & DOJ, That Are Vital To American Freedom

Were COMPLETELY CORRUPTED Under 2 AGs-->Eric Holder & Loretta Lynch

With The Authority & Knowledge of Then Dem President of The United States-->Obama pic.twitter.com/i1F6wW9ZCI

— WINNING⭐⭐⭐AMERICA 2020 (@TrumpLadyFran) January 2, 2020

Video at the link.

I am sticking this here because Joe DiGenova uses the word I have been wanting people to use: "framed" . Average guy understands this word. A lot of other things, like "failure to follow due process" or "lack of probable cause" do not have those gut-level resonation.

Narciso

But it a culture a principle a standard, not the ones you deserve but what you are likely to get, enforced across the institutions.

MissMarple2

Part 2 of DiGenova. Video at ink.

PT 2 DIGENOVA: Comey & Brennan Were The Coup Leaders

These Two Institutions, FBI & DOJ, That Are Vital To American Freedom

Were COMPLETELY CORRUPTED Under 2 AGs-->Eric Holder & Loretta Lynch pic.twitter.com/2WAzleKVAr

— WINNING⭐⭐⭐AMERICA 2020 (@TrumpLadyFran) January 2, 2020
Jane

I'm not recommending Penzey you guys so relax.

This is very interesting:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/12/29/russiagate-investigation-now-endangers-obama/?fbclid=IwAR0XdfHceNI_1C1c5eTVGMQ_x5RSRsFqvYEOAYx_zz85EZA6ypg2olHgojY

Tom R

OL @ 12:55

I consider your dislike of me a badge of honor. What are people who think like you actually contributing to winning the ongoing Culture War II? You love to whine and complain about how bad things are and will continue to be in the future. We largely have your generation to thank for allowing the current situation to exist.

You then have the fucking audacity to attack those of us who are actually fighting back against the Progtards and optimistic of our chances of winning. Hell yea I'm argumentative when it comes to people like you. I don't like losing.

MissMarple2

Someone on the thread where I grabbed those 2 videos pointed out something no one has much thought about: Obama buying a house in DC.

She thought it was so he could hold strategic meetings with people in the DOJ, FBI, and possibly other high offices (Speaker of the House, Minority leader, etc.).

I wonder if someone tracks who enters and leaves that house.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Comment 1139

Also: hope TM is feeling MUCH BETTER from the flu!

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/01/highlights-of-news_2.html

Item 3 is LOL worthy.

Tom R

DIGENOVA: Comey & Brennan Were The Coup Leaders

The direction of Durham's investigation is IMO pointing to the likelihood Brennan was the ringleader. Comey either played along to protect his skin or got duped by the fabricated intel. Even if the former is the truth, Comey will use the latter as his main defense strategy.

Dave (in MA)
What is "geu"?
It's what you get when someone can't type on a phone and says he can't get JOM on his computer.
GUS

Jane, I went to high school with Bill Penzey. He is beyond FLAMING LIBERAL. We used to be friends.
My last day of college, he fed me and my BF pot brownies. I was FRIED, and I mean fried.

clarice

I HATE MY IPHONE. I USE IT WHEN I NEED UBER, WHEN I A WAITING TO BE PICKED UP AT AIRPORTS AND WHEN MY MOTHER'S CARERS NEED ME AND I'M AWAY FROM MY DESK. HATE IT!!

Happy New Year to you, Soylent!!!

GUS

Lots of "investigations.......ZERO PERP WALKS.


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MissMarple2

Saw that mention of Karl Rove again and I am totally convinced he latched onto W as an easy candidate to get a win with. Then he inserted himself into the White House for 6 years.

When he decided to go out and get back into political consulting he chose what he thought would be a guy who would win easily but who got defeated by a gal. I cannot remember the names, but I do remember Rove's epic melt-down.

Tom R

ZERO PERP WALKS

If you sincerely want to defeat the Progtards and win Culture War 2, it's best to not act like the Progtards. Restoring the country to where justice is based on Constitutional rule of law takes time. Everything that has happened since Trump has taken office points to continued progress in that area.

Threadkiller

Tom R, you do realize that OL said nothing to you and you kept quoting him and making demands, until you got your “badge of honor” reaction?

You really need to find a calming outlet for the rage you bring here. Chill out. Nobody here has picked you as their defender. Take that self-placed weight off your shoulders. You will feel better.

I would suggest that you start by swapping “us” for “me.” So instead of saying “Tell us thus and so!” You can more accurately say “Tell me thus and so!” It will clean up some of the confusion.

GUS

Don't address me, I don't read your bullshit.

Captain Hate

Christine O'Donnell defeated Rove's candidate, Mike Castle, in the Delaware primary to replace the Paste Eater. Rove's on the air tantrum probably cost her the general election to Chris Coons. Maybe she would've lost anyway but it was an early heads up on what the GOPe would do to anyone getting in their way.

GUS

TK, I've been correct about the ass hole all along.

Captain Hate

A second look at Yellow Stars?

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=385094

Threadkiller

I’m not going to get into that, Gus.

JM Hanes

henry:

"JMH, a benefits delay isn't restricted to trucking."

Yes, I can understand this, but in the trucking business I'm describing, it was repurposed as a way to run a benefit-free work force. The employer has no intention of paying out the promised benefits when the putative trial period is up, he intends to fire the employee and start the clock ticking on a replacement trial worker. Just as delayed benefits are not restricted to trucking, I expect that such exploitation isn't limited to trucking either.

Jim Eagle

I heard Rove on the radio today. It was Brian Kilmeade's hour show. He gets a free 10-15 minutes and never once mentioned Trump losing the WH, and the Full Congress going Dem. The fact those are his predictions tells me Trump is in an electoral college comfort zone.

Dave (in MA)
Rove's epic melt-down.
He's probably still sitting around whiteboarding scenarios where Romney could win 2012.
MissMarple2

Captain Hate,

Thank you for remembering those names! Mike Castle and Christine O'Connell! Maybe typing them will imprint them in my brain!

Jim Eagle

Over at AOS:

With the expansion of Orthodox communities outside NYC has come civic sparring, and some fear the recent violence may be an outgrowth of that conflict. https://t.co/IG9WkdSoi6

— NBC New York (@NBCNewYork) January 2, 2020

If so, what will happen to B&H Photo? The greatest photo, audio, video, gadget shop in the world. Where most wives visiting NYC want to hit Lord & Taylor and Saks, Mrs. JiB heads down to B&H whenever she is in the City. Closed on Saturday (natch). Founded and run by Ultra-Orthodox Jews. May be the best and expert customer service around.

Tom R

TK @ 2:13

Who do you think OL's "in whatever dimension" comment was directed to? I'm the only person here who used the meme "4D Chess" to describe Trump's strategic prowess. My response to OL at 12:45 was respectful. His response to me was not. I'm not surprised to see you take his side.

BTW the "us" I was referring to was explicitly spelled out. If it makes you feel better, know that I wasn't including you in the generalization.

Threadkiller

You take things too personally, Tom.

henry

How about that. Vitamin D protects against infections.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-12-vitamin-d-infection.html

henry

A research team from Israel has found the Bacillus Calmette-Guérin (BCG) vaccine, which is the vaccine primarily used against tuberculosis (TB) and commonly used to treat bladder cancer, might also be an effective treatment to prevent Alzheimer's.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/tuberculosis-vaccine-found-to-inadvertently-counter-alzheimer-e2-80-99s-disease/ar-BBYsh6D

anonamom

When it comes to finding a workable solution to fix a major problem, what kind of team members are more helpful? Those who keep trying to figure out possible solutions or the ones who keep saying there is no solution?

Having some reality interjected into the rah rah rah walks on water stuff is more than a good thing--it's necessary to be effective.

Tom R

Anonamom @ 2:46

Likewise, having some reality interjected into all the Eeyorish doom and gloom pessimism is more than a good thing, it's necessary to actually winning Culture War 2. Defeating the FULL COMMIE Progtards is the ultimate goal right?

Barbara

Do we have an extradition treaty with Northern Ireland?

Asking for a friend (well, not really).

Old Lurker

Washtimes via Lucianne: "Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe admitted he misled investigators about his role in a media leak and apologized for it, according to transcripts of his interviews with investigators released Thursday. The transcripts were released by the Justice Department’s inspector general in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. An unidentified FBI investigator detailed his frustration with Mr. McCabe over the time he spent investigating the leak, only to discover the leak came from the former deputy director himself, according to the transcripts. Mr. McCabe had repeatedly denied he was the source of the leak."

I get it. If Scooter Libby had apologized, that would have ended it. Oh. Wait. Libby did NOT do it but McCabe did. There must be some other difference between the two.

Captain Hate

Pretty sure leaking is a crime for whenever someone feels like prosecuting it in a non DC courtroom.

hrtshpdbox

If Trump ever does something to piss me off I won't be shy about pointing that out.

You're just singing Trump's praises because you're not brave enough to point out his faults, CH. I'm not afraid - I've noticed that POTUS misspells the occasional word.

hrtshpdbox

New thread

Barbara

You know the left is perplexed and disarmed by the President's ability to connect with people across the demographic spectrum when they have to drag out Linda Ronstadt and Opie to level the usual meaningless ad hominem attacks against him.

Jane

Gus,

As I said I wasn't endorsing Penzey. I just wanted to show Amom what chervil looked like. Sorry to offend you.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

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