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December 14, 2019

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Captain Hate

Prayers up, Marlene.

MissMarple2

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/12/14/were-mad-as-hell-oklahoma-dem-gets-an-earful-from-angry-constituents-over-impeachment-864491

Includes quotes and a video.

MissMarple2

ALX
🇺🇸
@alx

Rep. Collin Peterson likely voting against Impeachment: “supporters of impeachment decided long ago that it was a goal, ‘and now they’ve spent a year trying to figure out how they can make a case for it. That’s backwards. I just don’t agree with this.’”

Jane

Marlene,

So sorry about your Mom. That sucks.

So glad I missed the dental discussion!

It’s freezing here. Woke up to 48, now 57. I’ve got lots and lots of clothes on. Wasn’t always a wus, I swear!

Drinking my happy coffee. Another good day!

MissMarple2

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
·
11h
BREAKING: Comey's dirty cops used dirty informants to spy on Trump campaign and aides -- both Halper and Steele had been fired for cause and Comey's FBI crew knew they were untrustworthy and yet they continued to use them regardless of their lack of credibility and reliability

MissMarple2

Here, Jane, this should warm you up:

Indianapolis Weather
@_IndianapolisIN
·
7m
current weather in Indianapolis: overcast clouds, 26°F
79% humidity, wind 8mph, pressure 1019mb

MissMarple2

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/so-long-public-lands-bureaucrats-are-quitting-because-trump-wants-to-move-the-agency-from-dc-to-colorado/

This is the second group moving out of DC. If I remember correctly, a large portion of the Agriculture Department was supposed to move, too.

MissMarple2

Thanks to the long dental discussion, I am getting ads for The Natural Dentist.

clarice

Good morning, JOM, and thanks!

Marlene, so sorry. This week my mother lost the ability to walk at all. Luckily she has 2 wonderful caretakers who manage to keep her clean, fed and such.
Some years ago in a village in France I used to visit regularly, an older friend of mine had her hip break as she was on her staircase. The small hospital there had not the means to replace it so they gave her morphine(or something else which knocked her out for hours) and completely immobilized that leg. She was up in the mornings, ate breakfast and then was put under again. This went on until the hip healed. Amazing old technique.

Momto2

Marlene - prayers for your mother. Please keep us posted when there is news.

Another Bob

Marlene | December 15, 2019 at 06:09 AM

I feel it for you Marlene.

We had to take my 87-yo MIL in little over a year ago. Arthritis got too bad, and she just couldn’t live alone anymore. We got to her house, and first thing was seeing her trying to talk with two hands on a cane. The immediate problem was a leg pain than made steps impossible.

First thing after we moved her 600 miles was to get her eval’ed by a doc we trusted. Turned out she had an incomplete stress fracture of the femur. Week before Thanksgiving, and the morning of the scheduled orthopedic evaluation, she completed the break while turning over in bed.

Skipping over a lot of details that we all want to forget, rodding surgery and a long rehab followed. As well as a different phase of life for wife and I.

We’re forever grateful it happened way it did over it happening while she was standing or walking.

Lots of deep breaths. Lots of patience. Hope it all turns out the way you all want it to.

MissMarple2

https://www.waynedupree.com/impeachment-scotus-article-2/

This discusses how the Supreme Court pulled the rug out from under Article 2 of the impeachment, and also includes a video of Dershowitz explaining it.

Marlene

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I've been on the phone with all five siblings. Mom broke her femur above her knee replacement. I'm really worried because she will likely need surgery. She lives in an in-law apartment attached to my brother's house. He and his wife and one of my three sisters are at the hospital. My other brother has plans to go to NH for Christmas and may adjust his travel schedule. She will be in the hospital and rehab a long time. Keep praying!
Thanks again.
So,now I'm waiting for a call to find out about her surgery.

MissMarple2

This popped up on Twitter and is a good question:

Jubal E. Harshaw
@alimhaider
·
11m
How do you know Steele is retired from MI-6?
==========================================
How DO we know he was retired from MI-6?

MissMarple2

https://thegreggjarrett.com/heres-why-the-justice-department-must-investigate-joe-bidens-quid-pro-quo/

Greg Jarrett discusses what laws the Bidens may have violated (and probably did if you ask me).

MissMarple2

https://hannity.com/media-room/busted-cnn-under-fire-for-refusing-to-air-sen-grahams-opening-statement-during-hearings/

Senator Graham gave a powerful opening statement at the Horowitz hearing, but CNN didn't carry it. They were the only network which refused to carry it.

MissMarple2

Catherine Herridge
@CBS_Herridge
·
10h
IG Horowitz found 17 inaccuracies and omissions in Carter Page #FISA warrants. Page told CBS “I think people in the government bureaucracy and U.S. Intelligence Community owe all Americans a big apology. I was just a conduit for their egregious wrongdoings. “ @JonathanTurley

jimmyk

I don't understand. Ultra-orthodox don't do electronics?

jim_nj is probably asleep but I'll answer the 2:06am anyway: Many abstain from the internet and television as being a waste of time and full of immorality (porn, etc.). Hard to argue.

Jane

Comey is going to be on Fox News Sunday today. I can't stand Chris Wallace but I may try and force myself to watch it, for the team.

Marlene

AB,thanks for the info in your comment. Mom fell on Monday and we think she had a small fracture already and then fell again last night. Of course,I've done an internet search and scared myself,bad idea. I don't know how a rodding surgery will be done,her bones are so weak,her leg will be full of hardware.
Well,I'm going to go and read on the lanai and wait for a call.
Jane,it isn't that cold! :)

MissMarple2

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/14/whitepower-trends-after-cadet-at-army-navy-game-flashes-circle-game-symbol/

This is such BS. I am with Kurt Schlichter: quit letting the commies trash our warriors.

jimmyk


Still on catch-up. Marlene, sorry about your mom.

From Clarice's Pieces, quoting Dershowitz:

Both are precisely what the Framers had rejected at their Constitutional Convention. Both raise the “greatest danger,” in the words of Alexander Hamilton, that the decision to impeach will be based on the “comparative strength of parties,” rather than on “innocence or guilt.”

I never cease to be amazed at the prescience of the Founding Fathers. It's not as though there were any real examples out there to observe of the type of government they were proposing. Yet the Democrat (and some Rs too) dimwits in power today can't even see this when it's staring them in the face.

MissMarple2

#FISA Another example limited scope IG Horowitz report. Key player firm behind Steele Dossier “(Fusion GPS) Simpson declines OIG’s request to be interviewed.” Pg.93 footnote 212. My Sharpie. My highlighter. #footnotesmatter pic.twitter.com/s7HFtdhCjU

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) December 15, 2019

Link goes to photo of her notes on the report.

MissMarple2

Brit Hume
@brithume

Comey to Chris Wallace this morning on his previous statements that the FISA process was properly used, which the IG report flatly contradicts: “He is right. I was wrong.”
=================================
90% of viewers aren't buying this. They consider him a liar.

Here are the replies so you can read them yourself:

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1206214592873021441

jimmyk

Strassel fisks Hillary (changing a few words of her tweet):

Kimberley Strassel @KimStrassel Dec 13

Make sure family and friends see IG report: Clinton didn't just invite foreign influence in 2016; she paid for it. Her team funneled Russian dossier lies to the FBI, for her political gain. Americans deserve free and fair elections. If only press would hold her accountable

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1205596836708278272

Jane

Well I missed the morning show, it will be on later, but maybe someone on the left coast will watch it first.

Jane

Marlene - it's practically snowing here!!!!

Jane

"Simpson declines OIG’s request to be interviewed."

Isn't Simpson the guy who actually wrote the Steele dossier as part of a fiction novel?

clarice

jimmyk, you are absolutely right about the Founding fathers. Geniuses.

Narciso

He ripped of a better writer alex drydens work, prayers for her marlene.

MissMarple2

Jane,

I think so.

Journalism is changing. People who have integrity and are good reporters, like Catherine Herridge, are illustrating their work and explaining as they go on stories like this.

Those who are dishonest weasels, like many, are getting constant criticism and push-back by the public. It's quite gratifying to watch.

Another Bob

Marlene, AFAIK a complete break of the femur is surgery 100% of the time.

The concern is having adequate bone length for the rod. In our case the break happened at a place where there was. The actual incisions were surprisingly small. Rod went inside the femur, pins at either end to secure it. (It’s also true that I’m not fully-informed on all the tools and techniques available.) Just do what you can to get yourself the best ortho surgeon you can locate.

Things were a bit complicated at the ER and pre-surgery, but she came through the surgery fine. She had some cognitive issues for a few weeks post-op that cleared. A year later, other than her mobility issues, she’s fine.

peter

Jane, if you are going to watch Wallace and Comey, you've a stronger stomach than I

Sandy Daze

Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson: Spygate, Impeachment & the Assault on Trump For Undoing the Progressive Agenda

https://youtu.be/-4Gkm77usT0

A sober, judicious take on 45's presidency--and all attendant issues--from this master historian.

Most strongly recommend.

MAGA - KAG !

MissMarple2

Report from the grocery: check-out magsand tabloids say that after a tense meeting, Charles will step down and William and Kate will be King and Queen in 2020.

IF this pans out to be true, I wonder how Charles was persuaded to step down, since he has been trained all his life to assume the throne.

Narciso

His lips will be moving, now for which party was he working for, his paymasters at hsbc (we seen how well his monitoring skills turned out) the clintons some yet to be discovered combine.

Narciso

Tell you the truth miss marple its as plausiblr as anything in the times the post or the journal.

Jack is Back!

In Re: The discussion on the Framers of the Constitution and our Founding Fathers, this is good accounting of their ages on July 4th 1776 (common date for the Declaration of Independence). A lot of teenagers, pre-tween (Andrew Jackson:), under 40's.

https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/08/ages-of-revolution-how-old-1776/

jimmyk

Didn't see it, but apparently Wallace gave Comey a tough interview by MSM standards, which means no blow jobs were involved.

jimmyk

JiB, I think Hamilton would have been around 30 at the time of writing the Federalist Papers. Amazing.

jimmyk

I'm sure hoping the couple of Ds in the House announcing opposition to impeachment will start a preference cascade. If nothing else, I've got money riding on it. Even though impeachment will likely help Trump, it's still bad for the country, and the help to Trump is already there from the absurdity of the hearings.

rse

For henry-

https://xqsuperschool.org/blog/student-success/computer-science-equity-social-justice/

“What I really like about computer science is that it gives me the ability to build anything I choose,” said Tamia, a sophomore at Washington Leadership Academy, an XQ school in Washington, D.C. “It’s a way to be creative without ever being wrong.”

Tamia, like all her classmates at WLA, is immersed in a computer science program that transcends keyboards and textbooks. It encompasses four years of coursework, delving into data science, gaming, artificial intelligence, robotics, web design, coding languages, and art.

But beyond that, WLA students—almost all of whom are people of color and from low-income households—look at technology through a lens of equity and social justice. They study the intersection of technology and public policy, listen to guest speakers, often people of color who work in the tech sector, and learn how tech can strengthen their communities.

In other words, they don’t just learn how to operate computers. They learn how computers influence society.

henry

Rae, alas none of that training includes how things work (aka common business practices, etc). Thus the graduates will be unemployable.

Narciso

They can work at vox

https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1205556578096730113

sbwaters

“It’s a way to be creative without ever being wrong.”

Rubbish. Anyone writing code is constantly made aware of where they are wrong. They deal with being wrong with every comma, misspelled word, and logic error. They end up appreciatingthat even if their code is syntactically correct, the premise might be wrong, the data might be inappropriate, and the conclusion bogus.

The only thing different is that your own ego doesn't hurl "racism!" on those who disagree with you so you don't have to listen.

jimmyk

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
·
Lol now Schiff confirms he won’t testify during Senate trial—same guy accusing Trump of “CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS” haha

henry

Schiff’s staffers are the ones that need to be grilled under oath.

Captain Hate

Maybe Matt Bevin wasn't such a great choice

https://triblive.com/news/world/outgoing-kentucky-governor-pardons-man-convicted-of-beheading-a-woman-stuffing-her-in-a-barrel/

MissMarple2

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/12/tucker-carlson-fox-news/603595/

An article interviewing Tucker Carlson.

My favorite quote is the one on David French:

“David French is a buffoon, one of the least impressive people I’ve ever met. Only in nonprofit conservatism could he have a paying job.”

MissMarple2

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7794519/America-expelled-two-Chinese-diplomats-suspected-spying-trespassed-military-base.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

This comes from a report today in the New York Times.

The question is, is it true or was this bait to catch a leaker?

lurkersusie

Wow!

Joseph from Boro Park on Twitter: "My open letter to @JerryNadler @RepJerryNadler. https://t.co/k1VwGxfVsT" / Twitter

Captain Hate

Oh c'mon, henry; you know you'd love to put Tamia on production support. What could go wrong? Plus the joys of listening to REEEEEEEEEEE all the time...

DrJ

I am grateful that many here still have their parents.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Schiff booed
https://mobile.twitter.com/metzsam/status/1206013571903057920/video/1

MissMarple2

It looks like Joseph from Boro Park is solviong the puzzle!

Momto2

Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman


What @realDonaldTrump did this week:
*USMCA progress
*50th Appeals Court judge confirmed
*China trade deal
*EO targeting anti-Semitism
*agreements on paid family leave, Space Force

What Democrats did:
*impeachment

Americans know who is fighting for them!

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Austin Bay over at Insty accidentally put up two blank posts.
One wag added a photo of Clint Eastwood lecturing a chair to the comments which was cute.
Now there's a free for all of jokes and memes.

This is how I imagine OL a few days after birth LOL

Threadkiller
Page told CBS “I think people in the government bureaucracy and U.S. Intelligence Community owe all Americans a big apology. I was just a conduit for their egregious wrongdoings.

Will Carter Page be surprised when he finds oit that the 4th FISA "conduit" was for right-doings? Or is he still in on the 4D scheme and being deceptive in the above quote?

MissMarple2

Momto2,

That is SO right! And in addition, signing that EO at the Army-Navy game and attending the game for the 3rd year.

Meanwhile, Jennifer Rubin has lost her mind:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/12/15/get-your-head-fixed-jennifer-rubin-claims-america-is-indebted-to-dems-like-adam-schiff-for-trying-to-impeach-trump-yeah-no/

I am truly wondering if some of these people are being blackmailed.

Threadkiller

Praying for you mom, Marlene.

MissMarple2

Man in Plant City, Florida painted a flag in his front yard dedicated to President Trump's re-election, military, and law enforcement.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
17s
Schiff’s correcting the record memo has turned out to be totally wrong (based on the I.G. Report)! A very big lie. @MariaBartiromo
And @DevinNunes
has turned out to be completely right. Congratulations to Devin. The Fake News Media should apologize to all!

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

I think already posted
MN Dem Collin Peterson pledges "no" vote.
No crime committed

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/minnesota-dem-i-will-vote-no-on-impeachment-breaking/

Captain Hate

Since clarice has been in the same room as Jen Rubin, I'll defer to her analysis that she's not all there upstairs.

MissMarple2

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/15/us-trade-representative-says-trade-deal-is-totally-done-and-will-double-exports-to-china-in-two-years.html

Per Lighthizer.

The Infamous Ignatz

There is no doubt the Founders were geniuses and quite possibly the greatest concentration of extraordinary men in the same place at the same time in history. The lens of time often has us conflate the greats of Greece, Rome or other civilizations as one group when they were usually spread over hundreds of years.

But in a sense, a great deal of what they thought, said and did was self-evident. Even a group of mediocrities, if looking at the world through the lens of the Western Civ/Judeo-Christian tradition, has already had most of the heavy lifting done for them by those who came before. The Founders leaned almost entirely on that rock of Truth and those portions of The Enlightment that use that Truth as its foundation. Their greatness and genius was more the wisdom to accept what tradition had already proven valuable and liberty preserving while rejecting what had proven the opposite. They were men shorn almost completely of ideology. Their particular genius was to then know how to codify those traditional virtues. But because they were wise they knew it was not so much their genius but the shoulders on which they stood that determined whether we could keep the republic they built. Hence their warnings that a virtuous and religious people were the only type likely to keep their bequest.

You only have to look at contemporaneous France to see what men jumping down off those shoulders and following the way that seems right to a man but instead leads to death bequeath to their nation; a reign of terror.
And you only have to look at the course of our country over the last 100 years to see the same thing.

The greatest genius is the genius of humility to acknowledge the ancient wisdom that has already been given to us and to follow it. For the most part it is the genius and wisdom of growing up instead of being a perpetual child. Philadelphia was chock full of men. Paris and modern Washington DC were and are the rule of obstreperous and ignorant infants, toddlers and children.

MissMarple2

Eli Lake
@EliLake
·
2h
This Chris Wallace interview on @FoxNewsSunday
is devastating for Jim Comey. He comes out looking slippery, like he’s shading the truth.
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I ALWAYS thought Comey looked like that!

Marlene

My mother is being transported to another hospital in southern New Hampshire. My sister said she will be seen by an orthopedic surgeon and scheduled for surgery. I don't think we'll know much more until tomorrow.

MissMarple2

Continued prayers, Marlene.

Jack is Back!

Is Iran invading Iraq?

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1205975449408548866?fbclid=IwAR0JJIYSGTQ3lvF0tWu9IKV8ZrFDS_hyVlwCZcP_FjHq_jh4akFmOfb-Its

MissMarple2

http://ericmetaxas.com/blog/email-exchange-jon-ward-yahoo-news/

"I was recently contacted by Jon Ward of Yahoo News, who wanted to do a profile of me and specifically to focus on why I felt the need to support Trump in the general election. My emails with him were amicable, and I think Jon genuinely meant well in all he wrote, but in the end I was disappointed in the piece, as were many friends who read it. You may read it for yourself here.

In any event, I thought it would be best to post my actual Q&A with Jon for clarity, and it is below for you to read. I think there are some parts you will find especially interesting and it’s obvious from my responses that I found the substance and tone of some of his questions off-putting. Before I answered the questions, I wrote the following preamble, in response to his email to me. You can read our email back and forth here. And then I went in and answered the questions one by one, as you can see. After a few days Jon had some follow ups, which I have also posted at the bottom. Enjoy!"
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Why ANY evangelical bothers to give an interview to one of these media types amazes me. Take a gander at how Ward addressed Metaxas and the accusations about President Trump, many of which are false.

Ward had no understanding of theology, nor of how dangerous Hillary was/is (although maybe Ward thinks he will be of the protected class). This is a good example of how biased our media is.

MissMarple2

After a pompous, posturing tweet by Hillary in which she acted like she was an innocent lamb and President Trump was some sort of Simon Legree, Kimberley Strassel posted this:

Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel

Make sure family and friends see IG report: Clinton didn't just invite foreign influence in 2016; she paid for it. Her team funneled Russian dossier lies to the FBI, for her political gain. Americans deserve free and fair elections. If only press would hold her accountable.

President Trump then posted this:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
29m
Crooked Hillary caught again. She is a total train wreck!

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

David Brody
@DavidBrodyCBN
·
Dec 13
This impeachment vote reminds me of when Democrats went nuclear by lowering the threshold to confirm federal judges in 2013. They came to regret it when @senatemajldr
then lowered the threshold on SUPCO nominees & also with a federal judiciary packed with @realDonaldTrump
judges

jimmyk

But in a sense, a great deal of what they thought, said and did was self-evident.

I agree with much of what you wrote, Iggy, but I think this does them a disservice, though I understand what you are saying is that in a sense truth is self-evident if you shed your ideological biases and rely on the accumulated wisdom of our great thinkers. Still, their ability to foresee so much, at the level of detail, as an example, in the Hamilton quote about impeachment, goes beyond self-evident truths.

They weren't perfect. One could argue they erred with the "general welfare" and interstate commerce clauses, that ended up being invitations to tyranny. And maybe Hamilton was a bit too sanguine about a strong central government. But I bet none of them would be surprised today to see how far down we've fallen, and would perhaps only be amazed that it took this long.

Captain Hate

Speaking of the wisdom of the founders

George Washington was strongly against the political parties. He feared their growing influence and warned of the “continual mischiefs of the spirit of party”. He thought that it would lead to “the alternate domination” of each party, taking revenge on each other in the form of reactionary political policies, and that it would eventually cause the North and South to split.

MissMarple2

Jack,

I went over and read that tweet and thread about Iran. It sure LOOKS like they are invading, but I am not going to get all alarmed yet.

The Infamous Ignatz

--This impeachment vote reminds me of when Democrats went nuclear by lowering the threshold to confirm federal judges in 2013.--

If Republicans were serious, and most in DC aren't, the Dems would be much more polite and wouldn't touch this phony impeachment with a ten foot pole.
But they know to a virtual certainty that if something unholy happened, like Joe Biden was elected Pres and the Reps had the House and Senate, there is not a chance in hell they would impeach that creep even though as clarice points out he is undoubtedly guilty of quid pro quo bribery/extortion.
And if your response to that is "you can't impeach a guy for actions taken before he was Pres" then you're part of the unserious problem.
Tit for tat is more than a childhood game. It is a means to an equable society.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

Andy McCarthy
@AndrewCMcCarthy

If you’ve been reading @KimStrassel
all along, you had the Horowitz report before Horowitz did.

Strassel replies:

Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel

And I should say it is only because of @AndrewCMcCarthy 's deep knowledge and analysis that we understand it all!

The Infamous Ignatz

--Still, their ability to foresee so much...goes beyond self-evident truths.--

jimmy,
That's what I meant by "their particular genius". They took the West's accumulated wisdom and laid out a means by which to enshrine it in the founding documents in order to preserve liberty.
And as for them being shocked at how far we've slid and the mischief we've gotten up to regarding the commerce clause etc, that's why they knew if we didn't continue to stand on those same virtuous shoulders they did, whatever they had wrought would rot.

The Infamous Ignatz

Sorry, "shocked *or not* at how far we've slid"

Jack is Back!

The Matt Bevin pardon story is really getting weirder and weirder.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/13/kentucky-matt-bevin-pardons-violent-offenders

The Infamous Ignatz

--Qassem Soleimani--

Why does this man still breathe?

jimmyk

MM @12:49, President Trump must have seen my 9:53. :)

jimmyk

And if your response to that is "you can't impeach a guy for actions taken before he was Pres" then you're part of the unserious problem.

But surely SCOTUS will make this point as part of their rejections of the fishing expeditions on Trump's taxes from before he was President-- among lots of other reasons to give Trump a victory in all three cases. I don't even think Roberts would fall for this crap, and maybe not Kagan either if she wants to retain some credibility. The other libs don't really have any to retain.

Jane

Hang tough Marlene. Call me if you need anything.

Captain Hate

The other libs don't really have any to retain.

RBG put a temporary stay on making the tax records available.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel
·
Dec 12
Let's hope upcoming #FoxNews interview w/ @comey proceeds from reality that he was: fired for cause; found guilty of "insubordinate" acts (IG on Clinton case); found guilty of "dangerous" behavior (IG on memo leak); in charge of an FBI that deceived the FISA court.

jimmyk

Meanwhile, Jennifer Rubin has lost her mind

Old news, MM, from about 2015.

Since clarice has been in the same room as Jen Rubin

Eww, I hope Clarice took a long hot shower after that.

jimmyk

RBG put a temporary stay on making the tax records available.

I believe that's virtually automatic when an action would effectively make the case moot (i.e. the damage would be done). I wouldn't wager that she'd side with the conservatives on this, though it's possible it could be (as it should) a 9-0 vote.

Jack is Back!

Trump Roadrunner: The Schiff hits The Fan:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJoar17jyo

Schiff as Wiley Coyote. LOL

Tom Bowler

Our founding fathers didn't just look to tradition and ancient wisdom. Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations was first published in 1776. Eleven years after that, out constitution was signed.

We marvel our beautifully designed constitutional structure with its checks and balances. It was designed to rely on members of the three branches each defending their own turf. Or to put it another way, it was designed with the idea that men would act in their own best interests.

I think that is the greater genius -- that they designed a government that was not intended to rely on the virtue of those in charge. Very libertarian in today's sense of the word.

Shooting from the hip here, but I'm not aware of any of the national constitutions developed since ours was, that have put such a reliance on self interest as a way of promoting integrity. Nor are there any national constitutions that have been as successful as ours.

It's tempting to say that it was sheer genius to promote individual liberty as the foundation for greatest world power in history. But I really believe that our great power and wealth are really the unintended consequences of liberty.

Captain Hate

though it's possible it could be (as it should) a 9-0 vote.

If Roberts had any leadership skills regarding the integrity of the court, he would hammer this home with no wiggle room.

Captain Hate

Well stated, Tom.

Tom Bowler

Thanks, CH.

clarice

Jen showed up at the panel discussion looking like a homeless person with her hair uncombined and her clothes disheveled and her argument was , indeed, that Trump was just infra dig. Nothing of substance at all.

clarice

Great posts Tom B and Iggy!

Tom Bowler

Thanks, Clarice.

Jack is Back!

TomB,

A very articulate post. One thing I have done with my son is to make sure he understands our constitution and how it was created and why. I have always felt "the why" was more important than "the how".

In his US History class they have formed teams to debate whether creating our republic was necessary or an over-reaction. That question has never been asked as far as I know. But an intesting way for our kids to understand life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Jack is Back!

Oh, BTW, New Thread.

Captain Hate

Here's rocket surgeon Jen with TuCa

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rzA2_6jjdk

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