Saturday Morning

The NY Times runs a shocking story on the cell phone geo-location data gathered and sold by private companies.

The private companies gather their data from smartphone apps that have activated location sharing (eg, that is how your smartphone can tell you the weather where you are without any need for the user to update or refresh the screen.)

A key wrinkle - these companies have data on millions of people and it is available to anyone the collectors consider to be credible. This is quite different from the police getting a warrant to look at records from a cell phone company.

The data is nominally 'anonymized' but the Times reports it is a trivial exercise to figure out a user's name - a typical phone will have a pretty obvious home at night and place of employment during the day.

As a bit of a warning to anyone The Resistance might feel a need to target, the Times includes this:

One search turned up more than a dozen people visiting the Playboy Mansion, some overnight. Without much effort we spotted visitors to the estates of Johnny Depp, Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger, connecting the devices’ owners to the residences indefinitely.

...

The data set is large enough that it surely points to scandal and crime but our purpose wasn’t to dig up dirt. We wanted to document the risk of underregulated surveillance.

Uh huh. What I'm reading is, they want use this dataset to *launch* an inquiry - maybe no intrepid reporter is running down those Playboy Mansion visitors hoping to find a Republican congressman or judge. But if the Times had unconfirmed rumors that a congressman (Republican, of course) was spotted at the Mansion, would they turn to this dataset for confirmation? Hmm... You can only imagine how low my confidence is as the Times weighs privacy rights against the public need to know.

Comments

[Threadkiller]

I remember a map being produced by FitBit, or some similar fat burning app, where they did an overlay of the globe with the tracks of all their customers walking/running patterns. It gave the location of quasi-secret military locations and tunnels throughout DC and the like.

[Threadkiller]

They called it a Heat Map:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases

https://www.wired.com/story/strava-heat-map-military-bases-fitness-trackers-privacy/

My JOM heat map would be kitchen, toilet, couch if there was a built-in tracker.

[Captain Hate]

Is there still a Playboy mansion? I was hoping they'd use it as a funeral pyre for Hef.

[Captain Hate]

This is my last comment on Flynn's legal bills. If he was cooperating with Mueller as part of his plea, he would still need legal counsel to protect his interests with that crew.

[KevlarKid]

Fitton not seeing evidence of a criminal investigation by Durham.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/a-cautionary-word-from-a-proven-warrior-against-the-deep-state

[KevlarKid]

or to roast bill mahr's rancid manhood.

[Captain Hate]

You caught my brain waves of an inadvertent vermin being overlooked when the STD pit got torched.

[KevlarKid]

skeezoidus maximus...bill mahr.

[KevlarKid]

speaking of skeezoids... adam schiff was the headliner on Colbert last night. what the hell.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Buckeye,
I haven't understood the Flynn thing from the start. I remember the story Pence was angry Flynn had lied to him but who knows if that was even true?
It's hard to think of any part of it that makes sense.
Welcome to the wonderful world of an "intelligence community" op.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Tonto,
Happy to be corrected re Singer.

[Captain Hate]

adam schiff was the headliner on Colbert last night. what the hell.

Obviously no dickweed seeking missiles were aloft...

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

My belief is that the CIA is more culpable in this than the FBI.
The FBI is the face of it, but they're the skin draped over the meat and bones of a spook continuing operation.

[Threadkiller]

The update from Tonto convinces me that Singer goes where the money is and he would be a fool to trash the Bloated Budget signer. An opportunist.

Unfortunately I also learned that DeSantis also goes where the money is and has become beholden to Singer.

#PayToPlay

[Threadkiller]

FWIW, if Trump hasn't already crowned one of The First Rugrats to be our Imperial Leader in the 2024 elections, I think DeSantis is the shoe in.

[anonamom]

No way, TK. None of those kids have a chance.
Nikki Haley is going to make a big run for it.
I read her memoir last week--she's got the cred, now with that UN stint behind here.

[MissMarple2]

‼️We Need Justice‼️

👉🏻Former AG Mukasey shares CRITICAL insight into @FBI’s Strzok & Page mission 2end MYE (code for ‘MidYear Exam’ of HRC) as it became clear @realDonaldTrump was @GOP nominee@NatSecLisa & @Comey should be in prison!@TheJusticeDept
pic.twitter.com/w9EfgGwNVf

— Jali_Cat{⭐️} (@Jali_Cat) December 17, 2019

Video at link.

[MissMarple2]

Rudy Guiliani on Glenn Beck's show. 14-minute interview and really worth watching. He has documents which he explains. Soros has stolen a bunch through NGO's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXYExjlpwk&feature=youtu.be

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

It's only 9:30 out here, a-mom.
A little early to be trolling TK ain't it?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/five-current-former-new-jersey-public-officials-arrested-for-bribery

3 democrats and 2 Republicans

[MissMarple2]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/the-eagle-has-landed-best-trump-reelection-ad-yet-video/

Not an official ad - one from a guy called Something Wicked. It's pretty good.

[Threadkiller]

It is never too early to troll me, Ig.

Nikki Haley is going to make a big run for it.

Not eligible.

[anonamom]

link at 11:08 on the other thread is nearly 2 yrs old

[anonamom]

She was born here TK.

[MissMarple2]

During this holiday season, we send our prayers to all members of the military serving overseas. Our nation is with you and thanks you for all the sacrifices you make to keep us safe! 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/qqLmEWCet1

— Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 21, 2019

Video at link.

[Buckeye]

TK's point is that her parents were not yet citizens, therefore.....

didn't make any difference with B Hussien, but he was good at passing himself off as "african-american", and more importantly, he was a libtard.

Nikki won't get that pass, or not in TK's mind.

He might be right.

[MissMarple2]

President @realDonaldTrump is speaking at @TPUSA’s #SAS2019 later on tonight.

Attendees are up early and already forming lines outside.

It’s going to be a GREAT Day! pic.twitter.com/pFL9ji94AL

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) December 21, 2019

Photos at link.

[JohnH]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Threadkiller]

If nothing else, it would be nice if Clarence Thomas's Supreme Court doesn't "evade" the issue this go around.

Unfortunately, if they do adjudicate it, we will here the "good enough for BHO" argument as a replacement for stare decisis.

[henry]

I was under the impression that such a “grandfather” clause requiring parents to be born here too was frowned upon by the Supreme Court with respect to free born offspring of slaves and citizenship / voting rights. But what doIknow?

[Captain Hate]

3 democrats and 2 Republicans

5 Uniparty

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

But mostly New Jersey.

[anonamom]

Sorry, folks--if a kid is born here, the kid is a citizen as far as the majority of Americans go.
It is what it is.

[Threadkiller]

Sorry, folks--if a kid is born here, the kid is a citizen as far as the majority of Americans go.

No need to be sorry, anonamom. That is arguably true.

[Narciso]

Yes those are the basic facts:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/12/18/heres-how-much-the-formal-impeachment-inquiry-has-cost-taxpayers-so-far/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Narciso]

Snorfle:

https://mobile.twitter.com/aelfred_D/status/1208406323311894533

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Inside Mayor Pete's cave.
Not nearly as horrifying as it sounds, but bad enough.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Sorry, folks--if a kid is born here, the kid is a citizen as far as the majority of Americans go.--

Are you new here?

[sbwaters]

Are you new here?

If so, remediation takes place on the last thread. ;-)

[MissMarple2]

The President hasn't tweeted since last night, which always makes me nervous because I am afraid he is out of the country visiting troops or something and I worry about him.

[MissMarple2]

AG Barr calls out how Soros is subverting our legal system and leading to more crime and violence pic.twitter.com/fAdCQY6BEi

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) December 21, 2019

Video at link.

[Extraneus]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/muslim-woman-in-minnesota-awarded-120000-for-being-forced-to-remove-her-hijab-for-mugshot/

https://pjmedia.com/trending/santagate-microsoft-removes-santa-hat-icon-after-a-single-user-complained-it-was-pushing-religion/

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/man-jailed-15-years-for-burning-gay-flag/ar-BBYcg35

SMH.

[anonamom]

MM, don't worry.
I suggest you get yourself back to Mass, and listen to what we say when we pray the the Our Father.

[Threadkiller]

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

[sbwaters]

In times of trial I recall the wisdom of Alan from "Two and a Half Men":

Alan: "Blow it out your *ss!"

It’s so versatile and therapeutic at the same time.

[anonamom]

At my house, we've long thought that if everyone ate Bran Buds each day, there would be World Peace.

(IRT Blow it out your ass)

[clarice]

And from the meshuga Max Boot:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/19/democrats-can-prevent-sham-trial-senate-if-they-hang-tough/

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

TM: "You can only imagine how low my confidence is as the Times weighs privacy rights against the public need to know"

I'm pretty sure that neither privacy rights nor informing the public (honestly) is on the NYT "Top 10" list.

[Narciso]

Guccifer 2.0 might be a intel committee

[Narciso]

Re mark waugh, which typepad doesnt link.

[MissMarple2]

henry,

I am out with my daughter and I notice the President has tweeted. Could you please copy and post it? Thanks!

[MissMarple2]

anonamom,

Thank you for your concern. I will pray about it. Right now I feel like the Church left me.

[Jim Eagle]

Max Boot has never left Mother Bear aka Russia and how they handle the truth.

Amom,

The problem with non-Americans who were born here even to legal immigrants or green card holders, like 3 of my Nephew, is they may never intend to live here. If so, they should then be held to our citizenship requirements like paying federal taxes on their income no matter where they earn it.

I spent 15 years on my 35 working career overseas where I paid both USA taxes as well as host countries. So, we have Americans in name only who don’t have to meet all of the laws of that citizenship who are excused from the burdens of said citizenship but keep the benefits. BS. And my Belgian in-laws know how I feel. Screw that.

[Narciso]

The most recent one:

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1208471806815997953?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Narciso]

Why is this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSLokhova/status/1208465190976663552

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

If Trump was truly the autocratic monster they claim, would Max Boot still be wasting oxygen?

[Neo]

As for inexpensive geolocation, there is new technology to finally be able to properly triangulation using cell phone towers by a company called PoLTE

[Captain Hate]

Even when the Weakly Standard had me fooled that they really really were conservative, I still skipped anything Boot wrote. Who knew he was a leading indicator?

[Captain Hate]

Happy Winter Solstice at 11:19 Eastern time tonight.

[Threadkiller]

Happy Winter Solstice at 11:19 Eastern time tonight.

My family will be staying up late to balance eggs on their ends in our continuing saga to prove that it can be done any day of the year at any time.

I can here the kids now:

"You got your equinox in my solstice!"

"No! You got your solstice in my equinox!!"

[Threadkiller]

...hear the kids....

:-(

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1h
Last night I was so proud to have signed the largest Defense Bill ever. The very vital Space Force was created. New planes, ships, missiles, rockets and equipment of every kind, and all made right here in the USA. Additionally, we got Border Wall (being built) funding. Nice!

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/h5bAKuoyV2

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 21, 2019

Video at link. 1 minute.

And I ask you if you remember the last president putting up anything that inspiring, because I sure don't!

[Threadkiller]

New planes, ships, missiles, rockets and equipment of every kind,

Babes in Tax Land.

[MissMarple2]

Well, we got our errands done and it was good for me to drive and get practice in crowded parking lots and roundabouts (which I detest).

[Jane]

Harrumph,

The Pats are on pay TV. That's just rude! If anyone is watching, keep me updated!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Babes in Tax Land.--

Heh.
Tis the reason for the season. :)

[MissMarple2]

TK,

It looks to me like a few well-placed audits on the State Department should be able to make up the difference.

Especially that funding that goes to NGO's which are run by George Soros, which Rudy discovered.

[Threadkiller]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-at-patriots-live-updates-tv-channel-streaming-info-odds-picks-for-huge-afc-east-showdown/live/

[Threadkiller]

It looks to me like a few well-placed audits on the State Department should be able to make up the difference.

Yes. The crooks will give the money back.

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! A quick update about my mother. She was transported to a rehab facility yesterday,so she is on the long road to recovery. I've been in constant contact with two of my sisters. My brother next in age to me arrives in NH tomorrow,so I should have a good indiction of Mom's condition,because he's Mom's favorite and she will listen to him. She is very stubborn and can be difficult. :)
The daughter and son-in-law arrive in FL tomorrow.
Winter solstice in FL is very strange!

[MissMarple2]

Thread on Soros and how he is funding radical prosecutors and law firms and such:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1208209300222627841.html

[MissMarple2]

TK,

The crooks may not give past money spent back, but future funds can be stopped from going to them, and maybe they can be FIRED.

[Jane]

Thanks TK but I don't see how to get on it without paying.

[Marlene]

Jane,drive over and watch the game with us! The game is on NFL Channel. We get cable with our HOA fee. :)

[Threadkiller]

It FIRED side of the non-elected bureaucrat balance sheet is looking pretty free of ink. The "Let them do the back stroke in their Scrooge McDuck gold filled pension pool" column is full though.

[Threadkiller]

Best wishes, Marlene.

[Jane]

Harrumph - I get cable too but not that channel. I've got the sound on or I'd be in my car. Thanks Marlene!

Thanks TK.

[Jim Eagle]

Jane,

Do have Roku, Amazon Fire or Apple TV If so, you may be able to to stream it on either device especially if you have cable or telephone or internet provider like Spectrum or Optimum. I gave up cable year's ago and only stream off my internet or phone provider.

Weird weater here also. Nice 73F today but heavy winds out of the east which brought rains this afternoon. Not our usual pre-winter weather.

[Threadkiller]

https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2019/12/patriots-bills-live-stream-tv-channel-start-time-week-16-saturday-game.html

Within this link, Jane, is a link to patriots.com where a live feed is supposed to work on Safari.

There are other links as well. Some cost and others offer a free trial window that may get you the game.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/12/21/tucker-carlson-exposes-d-c-conservatives-for-doing-big-techs-bidding/

[Threadkiller]

Tis the reason for the season. :)

:-)

[anonamom]

Amom,

The problem with non-Americans who were born here even to legal immigrants or green card holders, like 3 of my Nephew, is they may never intend to live here. If so, they should then be held to our citizenship requirements like paying federal taxes on their income no matter where they earn it.

She's lived here everyday of her entire life. Her parents are now citizens, and have lived here since before she was born. All of their children were born here, and live here, and work and pay taxes here.

She was the governor of SC. US ambassador to the UN.

She's done as much if not more than any keyboard commando here to contribute to the good of this nation.

Just sayin.'

[Jim Eagle]

Jane,

Its even easier than I thought. Its on Fubo.tv. If you have any streaming devices, go to their apps and download Fubo.tv. They may want a deposit for 1 week free tv but you can cancel after the game.

But again you need a streaming device like Apple TV, Roku or Fire.

[Jim Eagle]

Amom,

I wasn't commenting on Nikki. You missed my point about people who get American passports but never end up living here. Geez!

[Captain Hate]

It won't be a white Christmas here since the temperature nearly reached 50 here today and will stay above freezing for the next ten days. The house will be temporarily overly filled as the Santa Cruz crew will be here in about three hours. Massive intake of various Christmas ales should maintain my sanity. The grandkids will probably help Grandpaw Claus decorate the tree; if they don't I can quickly pivot to a Grinch/Scrooge mode.

[clarice]

WHAT FUN, CH!

[Threadkiller]

Just sayin.'

HypothetIcally, if she achieved all that and her parents never lived here and she was a naturalized citizen, does the Constitution allow her to be POTUS? Is there a Merit Badge exception in the eligibility clause?

[Marlene]

Uh oh! indiction= indication. *waves to CH* :)

[KevlarKid]

yeah. geez, anonamom. /sarc :D

if Haley can organize herself and fundraise effectively inside her party she could be electable. not sure Pence has the shelf life. the Kushner and Ivanka option? neither seems electable to me.

[Captain Hate]

You're one of the lesser offenders not even on my radar, Marlene.

[anonamom]

MM, The Church didn't "leave you." You are The Church. Be the adult you are. Get involved. Make it The Church you want it to be.
It has ALWAYS been a VERY "human" institution. As flawed as any and every human institution.

You must not have done your due diligence if you don't know that. It's very well documented. Pretty much close to 2000 years of screw ups.
Nobody is coming on some White Horse.
Not a president, not a pope.
It's on us.

[Jim Eagle]

KK,

FU! Your still an abnormal asshole.

Versus a normal one.

[Threadkiller]

She's done as much if not more than any keyboard commando here to contribute to the good of this nation.

Who knew disparaging anonymous digital acquaintances on the internet could change a guilty verdict to not-guilty.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Nobody is coming on some White Horse.--

Uhhh...have you read to the end of the Book?

[anonamom]

TK, HER PARENTS LIVE HERE!
They are BOTH citizens.

You just looking to make up Strawman shit to jawbone about? I am very well aware that this is your very favorite topic ever.

And you know better than anybody the Constitution says NOT ONE THING about the particulars you raise, or you wouldn't be able to argue/speculate about it endlessly, would you?
It is NOT defined there --nor has it been by the courts, has it?

Seriously--you think it makes some big difference if your parents were already citizens the night they did the deed that got you going that makes one some kind of super duper major loyal patriot?

I do believe Alexander Hamilton wouldn't have met that criteria, and he sure seems like a pretty committed American to me.
I know not a thing about it though, so no more from me.

[Neo]

Actress, Claudine Auger, played ‘Domino’ in ‘Thinderball’, dead at 78

[Another Bob]

Marlene, curious how far above the knee the break was, and what the ortho guy said. (Presuming you don’t mind sharing, and I understand if you don’t.)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Hmmm...time for some Christmas cheer around here;

𝄟 𝅘𝅥𝅯 Tis the season to be jarry, fa-ra-ra-ra-ra, ra-ra-ra-ra... ♫

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1208259661679529985

Interesting thread about the time line about when Zelensky unexpectedly won the Ukrainian presidency, Biden announced his candidacy, and Hunter resigned from Burisma's board.