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December 23, 2019

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Threadkiller

Hopefully the debate over whether or not it is unique that some lawers overbill their clients while delivering substandard results stays on the previous thread.

hoyden

Speaking trooth to pwer.

henry

Moar snow for Mitch!

Narciso

There is no case, thats the truth, except the malpractice under the color of lae conducted by multiple agencies furtherimg as many political and personal agendas

henry

Why would Mitch (or anyone else) trust a deal with Pelosi and Schumer?

Threadkiller

On topic, JiB and narciso both posted this from the Birther site The Post & Email:

https://www.thepostemail.com/2019/12/22/scotus-no-articles-of-impeachment-or-a-trial-are-required-for-the-senate-to-acquit-president-trump/

Thank you guys. It is a well researched article that I find no fault with.

Narciso

Well theres that aspect to, so many houses in dune sense pelosi biden bulger daley invloved in eithet the dragon or the bear

Narciso

From the last thread:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1208842732812341252

Tom R

From the last thread...

The Truth about Epstein and the Mossad or is this triggering my confirmation bias?

https://medium.com/@dylanhoward/epstein-admitted-to-me-he-was-a-spy-ex-business-partner-of-sex-criminal-claims-prince-andrew-is-c1152667bb86

Narciso

Every part of this investigation was conducted through 'black propaganda' recycled through multiple agency proprietaries targeting unauthorized persons

Extraneus

Yeah, TK, that Nixon case article was persuasive.

Tom R

Narciso @ 12:43

What investigation are you referring to?

Narciso

In miani where i grew up, there was often a story of this bank or that company doing this deed for this agency, world finance corporation was a big one we a had a bcci front in centrusts david paul when the owner was a saudi functionary rashid pharaon. Who owned the bank up in atlanta that they acquired from bert lance.

Narciso

The comey mueller snipe hunt.

Narciso

David paul was the finance chair kerry selected to takeover the senate in 1986, largely with s & l monies, thats where charles keating comes into the picture.

Narciso

Kerry was simultaneously invetigating bcci and noriega and other affiliated partners.

Narciso

Re hoffenberg he was mentioned in passing in vicky wards vanity fair piece, just as far as graydon carter held her leash, that was 16 years ago.

Extraneus

I wonder what Schumer is offering Romney to turn against McConnell.

Narciso

Well we already know which cog romney is in the machine

Narciso

The khashoggi matter proves one thing, if you do something make sure you dont get caught.

Narciso


How was that line, emerson why arent you here with me

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/1208968383372386304

Tom R

Every part of this investigation was conducted through 'black propaganda' recycled through multiple agency proprietaries targeting unauthorized persons

Thanks for confirming you were talking about Mueller/Comey. Let's just refer to the entire scandal as Spygate.

If you are going to make the argument that Trump's enemies were resorting to the tactics that I quoted, are you willing to admit Team Trump has resorted to some extraordinary countermeasures to fight back using any means available to them such as deception, misdirection, their own half-truths/false narratives etc?

Let's assume there are multiple members of the Obama administration, DOJ/FBI, CIA, etc who were involved in the spying on the Trump campaign. Lets also assume there are some White Hats on Team Trump/Team USA, whoever they may be, actively working on identifying everyone involved in the crime in order to bring them to justice.

Wouldn't you expect Team Trump to resort to some kind of clandestine efforts themselves in order to prevent the Obama criminal cabal from knowing what all was going on?

peter

Channeling my inner old lurker, this is all we have to keep Trump from being removed from office, a guy we only trust so-so and a handful of decent Senators. Scary. Enjoy Christmas everyone!

Narciso

No they had to grapple in the dark, agains institutions that would not admit their deception and media that is still coverinf for them three years later,

Narciso

Indeed peter, at any point in the horowitx reports organuzational chart was there anyone who said 'this doesnt seem right? There is no there there, let stop and reevaluate'

MissMarple2

Hello, all.

Grandkids sent me a test and were on their way at 11:30 and got here right after they texted me, so I had to dash around getting presentable and then keeping the dogs corralled. Sure was good to see them!

They just left. I think I will go see if I can pick up any interesting stuff on Twitter.

Tom R

Narciso @ 1:15

I don't fully understand your cryptic response.

Sounds like you are saying institutions like the DOJ/FBI, CIA etc are still engaged in deception against Trump and Team Trump is "grappling in the dark" which to me sounds like you think Trump is still on defense.

Are you not willing to admit Team Trump is countering Team Obama with their own spycraft tactics?

MissMarple2

teXt, not teSt. LOL!

Narciso

Strzok and page did, but it only emboldened them to continue the fraud.
Downers contribution was rather oblique.
Mifsud has gone the way of the flying dutchman.

Narciso

They had to, past tense, some media

Narciso

Are grudgingly acknoeledging, but they still keep the dogs on the hunt.

Threadkiller

I am on pins and needles waiting for this to play out.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

TM certainly has become a fire breathing political activist! :) :)

I'm somehow on the email list for the state Assemblyman for a district one-over from mine.
Got his end of year update today. Included:

1) Woman of the Year: Christine Blasey Ford
2) Non-profit of the Year: Community Legal Services

And this from the body of the letter, OMFG:
"Though some of our efforts did not become law, such as providing homeless community college students with a safe place to sleep at night ..."
Um, shouldn't these "students" be focused on getting a job, becoming self-sufficient, then attend classes at night or on weekends?
Complete, utter madness in the CA Dem Party. The whole letter reads like a parody

Threadkiller

Sounds like a casting call letter for participants on Judge Judy, Jim.

MissMarple2

The White House
@WhiteHouse
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How President Trump's executive action will help combat hate and support the Jewish community:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-committed-combating-rise-anti-semitism/

Narciso

That was last year, i thought it be e jean carroll,

Threadkiller

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/23/doug-collins-discusses-possibility-of-representing-president-trump-in-senate-impeachment/

MissMarple2

MSM Blackout

Islamic Terrorist detained by flyers on Turkish flight after Threatening to 'Blow Up Plane'

Terrorist claims to be part of the Gülen movement

Fethullah Gülen is Turkish Sunni cleric & Democrat donor, who lives in USA & runs Jihad charter schools using tax dollars pic.twitter.com/DIgpCg4enY

— Amy Mek (@AmyMek) December 23, 2019

Video at link. I have NO idea if this is what it purports to be since I do not hear any language that I can understand.

MissMarple2

BREAKING: The reason Paul Pelosi Jr. was in Ukraine in 2017 was for his business dealings with Asa Saint Clair, an accused diamond smuggler who the DOJ just charged with WIRE FRAUD, facing 20 years

I have all the evidence. This is MASSIVE, more to comehttps://t.co/0neazWnaPy

— Patrick Howley (@HowleyReporter) December 23, 2019

Link goes to article, which does not show evidence, which he says he has. Who knows?

Narciso

You have to scroll all the way down.

MissMarple2

Someone is shooting and killing horses in Floyd County, Kentucky.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/police-seeking-info-after-20-horses-found-dead-in-rural-kentucky-in-recent-weeks

John S

A terrorist on Turkish Air? Yikes! I flew back from Israel on Turkish this year. Knew I should have taken El Al.

MissMarple2

Narciso,

Thanks! I should have scrolled down. Seems like he DOES have quite a bit of evidence.

Not a surprise, really, if you think about it. Maybe another reason Nancy is holding the impeachment up.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

"collins-discusses-possibility-of-representing-president-trump-in-senate-impeachment"

Until I clicked, I thought it was about Susan Collins. And my brain was hurting in trying to think how that could happen LOL.

The Collins is a Member of the HoR

Tom R

Was this one of the 14 redacted criminal referrals that Mueller sent to the DOJ to handle?

https://twitter.com/dawsonsfield/status/1209137520585388032?s=21

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

btw, I am enjoying referring to the House as the "HoR" the membership of that body "a bunch of HoRs"

Somehow, this acronym hadn't occurred in my reading till lately.

anonamom

I can attest to Doug Collins ability to speak from what I've heard from him during these Judiciary hearings. That boy can talk faster than any English speaker I've ever listened to. And rebut the moronic, nonsensical crap the Ds were spewing. And stay on topic.

He'd do a great job.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Speculation:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/obama-to-endorse-elizabeth-warren-and-humiliate-joe-biden/

Melinda

Pulling a Maxine for all to see:

@kyledcheney

NEW: DOJ is arguing the House impeachment vote undercuts the their demand for McGahn testimony.

It's unclear why the vote would preclude further impeachment investigation, as Dems say they're doing.

House brief to come later today. Story w @joshgerstein

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1209157231197016069?s=21

Thread by Dem spokesm, I mean, DC reporter.

henry

Old merde touch will wreck them both.

MissMarple2

Jim, Sunnyvale.

Personally, I think that the "women are better leaders than men" comment from Obama could just as easily point to (ugh) Hillary.

Melinda

Prelim M5.6 Earthquake Vancouver Island, Canada region Dec-23 19:13 UTC, updates go.usa.gov/xpsQw

GUS

Obama vomited a whole shit load of bull shit. Still does. His MOM, she was quite a leader

jimmyk

Obama may help Biden by endorsing Warren. I doubt he’ll do it, though.

James D.

I wonder what Schumer is offering Romney to turn against McConnell.

Do you really think Romney would need to be offered anything to turn on his fellow Republicans?

MissMarple2

https://herzlinstitute.org/en/theodor-herzl/the-menorah/

A beautiful Hanukkah story.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Remembering Trump's first visit to Saudi Arabia.
And a photo of Melania's fashion sense making Americans proud.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/12/an-arab-israeli-alliance-is-taking.html
Newt Gingrich wrote at the time, "as President Trump gave a historic speech in Saudi Arabia before the leaders of more than 50 Muslim-majority nations, journalism’s first draft missed the history almost entirely.

"While the media focused on the ephemeral questions — whether the president would use campaign rhetoric in a diplomatic setting, or how the trip would affect the Obama legacy — they largely missed the real drama of the moment: a titanic shift in U.S. foreign policy occurring right before their eyes.

MissMarple2

James D.m

My thoughts exactly.

The only thing that will stop him is that one of his sons is involved in Ukraine, and I would bet cash money he is getting a cut.

And since he is concerned with both his income and preserving his squeaky-clean reputation with the Utah voting constituency, he will keep his mouth shut.

Should be interesting. :)

Tom R

This Twitter thread that multiple pro-Trump Twitter Sleuths have commented on is proof positive the American public is watching three different versions of the Spygate movie. Democrats, Progressives,NeverTrumpers and the Fake News are watching one version. Among Trump supporters, the Sessions/Rosenstein haters are watching a different version than the Sessions/Rosenstein supporters.

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1208915533569110021?s=21

Jane

I can’t hide Tom r on my iPad. Does anyone know why every post comes with a demand to “admit”? And shouldn’t that stuff go on thr prior thread?

Ok I’m a bitch!

Tom R

Jane,

Would you prefer I use "acknowledge" instead?

MissMarple2

Jane,

I have a lot of experience on ignoring stuff due to my daughter and one sister.

So when I see the moniker of someone who annoys me, I squint my eyes and see:

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I neglected to do that a day or so ago, because I was caught off-guard, and got everyone all upset.

Squinty eyes really do work, and I am back to using it.

MissMarple2

unseen1
@unseen1_unseen
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Great news. Only 6 million people watched the Dem debate. Lowest number yet. The people appear to be sick and tired of these clowns and their clownshows.

Jane

Narc, (from the last thread). I'm always congested in the morning in Florida.

clarice

https://www.wsj.com/articles/president-trump-is-impeached-or-is-he-11577045305

MissMarple2

https://spectator.org/getting-out-of-the-bushes/

The Spectator has wised up to the Bush Uniparty.

Tom R

The first person Jerry Jones needs to fire for the Cowboys disappointing season is himself as general manager. He hired the coaches, he decides on who to draft and who to sign as free agent.

https://sports.yahoo.com/jerry-jones-nearly-speechless-after-cowboys-loss-050344095.html?

JohnH

The bullshit detector went off, something smells fishy and we have a strong guess as to what Barr told Mueller. Why don’t you schmoes admit to the brilliance being shared.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jack is Back!

Narc, (from the last thread). I'm always congested in the morning in Florida.

jane,

Because of our heat and humidity it generates mold. You may not see it but it is there. You'd be surprised that when they built your house, it may have rained ovrernight while the rafters were in place then dried out but not enough when they closed it up, the mold came out in sort of invisible means.

We have had rain, rain, rain, for the last 72 hours. Now a little sun but still cloudy. When the heat comes out, lots of spores which breed the moldy conditions.

Its Florida and its quaint and predictable features:)

Jane

We had rain all day and night yesterday. It was very nice until 3 when the rain began again.

So I'm moldy. Hmmmmm - I'll put it on the list.

Tom R

JohnH @ 4:19

Thank you for your contribution to the Spygate discussion.

clarice

LOL (I think free stays for plugs explain this):https://www.mediaite.com/print/vogue-editors-mocked-for-revealing-their-elite-holiday-destinations/

Threadkiller
House Argues in Court Filing Don McGahn Testimony Needed for Impeachment Evidence…

As we suspected, albeit against much criticism, House counsel Doug Letter has responded to the DC Appeals Court arguing the forced testimony of White House counsel Don McGahn is needed for evidence in impeachment trial. [Court pdf Avail Here]

This court filing today bolsters the unspoken background motive for delayed House Impeachment Managers.  The House Judiciary Committee is using impeachment as support for their ongoing effort to gain: Don McGahn deposition, and Mueller grand jury material (6e).  The goal is opposition research; impeachment is a tool to establish legal standing to obtain it.  Everything else is chaff and countermeasures.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/23/breaking-house-argues-in-court-filing-don-mcgahn-testimony-needed-for-impeachment-evidence/#more-179259

Threadkiller


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Threadkiller

Sundance called it.

MissMarple2

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🇺🇸
- Text TRUMP to 88022
@TheTrumpPage1
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President Trump is now back at Mar-a-Lago at 3:50pm ET after spending the day at his golf club.

On the drive back, a group of supporters waved flags and signs, some reading “Merry Christmas” and “Trump 2020,” at the foot of the bridge to Palm Beach.

clarice

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/virginia-house-zoning-environment/

Jack is Back!

Darlings,

I am spending Christmas this year on A1A, the Publix parking lot in The Hammock, then inside my garage sorting out all the misplaced screws and bolts I have but some are fairly exotic.


When not doing that I will be on the Bocce court with a nice Franciacorta bubbly.

Melinda

Actually, TK, it was floating around the Twittersphere earlier before Sundance grabbed it and trademarked it for himself.

Again.

Extraneus
Notice the DOJ is aware of how the HJC is trying to manipulate the system…
clarice

Judge Clarice says, there was no reason to vote on impeachment before this issue was resolved, the House decided to forego it. It's not part of the record before the House and will not be considered by the Senate. Don't let the door hit you on the rear as you leave my courtroom.

Jack is Back!

I would love to know what Trump shoots when he plays Seminole.

As an 8 Handicap I tripled it when I played it. Tougher for me than Shinnecock, National and Sebonack.

Threadkiller

There must be a twitter link, then. I guess, if nothing else, Sundancd hopped on the correct bandwagon.

That gets points from me.

matt - deplore me if you must

The Chicoms are now rounding up Bibles and demanding that all faiths re-write their holy texts to conform to the party line.

How much longer do you think this will go on before the cracks turn into crevasses? Thist is going to piss off a hell of a lot of Chinese.

Threadkiller

Oral arguments at Jan 3rd, I believe. I hope there is a Judge Clarice in the courthouse.

Of course there is the possibility that the Dem pigs will take whatever decision the Judge hands down, and still has a victory parade. It is either a pathway to the evidence they want revealed or it is a cover-up. The Media will provide the lipstick

Melinda

Kyle Cheney wrote about Josh Gerstein writing it up earlier this AM as well, as I pointed out at 2:28.

Extraneus

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/23/court-docs-democrats-still-hope-to-impeach-trump-over-russia/

Threadkiller

I'll go back and look at you link, Mel. Sundance predicted this days ago so I assumed he was on the forefront.

Threadkiller

This is from the 19th:

Impeachment as a Means to An End, and Not The End Itself…

Posted by sundance

It does not seem accidental the hastily defined two articles of impeachment mirror the  arguments needed in two lower court cases brought by the House Judiciary Committee.

It is likely both articles of impeachment, “Abuse of Power” and “Obstruction“, are designed to support pending HJC court cases seeking: (1) former White House Counsel Don McGahn testimony; and (2) grand jury evidence from the Mueller investigation..


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/19/impeachment-as-a-means-to-an-end-and-not-the-end-itself/

Extraneus

As noted, the DOJ was already aware of the plan and had a brief prepared to push back on it, so they probably sniffed it out before the twitterers.

Threadkiller

Agreed, Ext.

Tom R

Melinda @ 4:54

Laurence Tribe's WAPO oped spelling out the Democrat strategy of withholding the articles of impeachment was published on 16 DEC and from that point on numerous commenters on Twitter analyzed the intent behind it. Sundance's first article discussing the Lawfare angle was 18 DEC.

Jack is Back!

Does anyone know if there is any survey on how much the Twitter Sleuth community influences political thought in re upcoming elections? It seems to me that if youare a frequent visitor to some sites, you can be duped to not use your independent thinking if you have one.

p.s. That kid Johnson on Marshall has some wheels.

Tom R

EXT @ 5:17

According to this article Tribe's strategy had been discussed behind the scenes for weeks. We just didn't hear anything about it until it came time for the House to formally vote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/18/trump-impeachment-trial-steny-hoyer-087319

Threadkiller

I guess the real purpose here is to prove who was right first.

An odd goal in these challenging times, but to each their own.

MissMarple2

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-accused-156m-ukraine-money-laundering-scheme-court-filing-linking-debunked

Not sure what this means. However, there are legal documents hooked to this.

Tom R

JIB @ 5:23

If you can figure out how quantify the impact of the Twitter Sleuths on political thought, my guess is it would be less influential than bloggers like Gatewaypundit and Sundance. See my 3:21 for more background.

MissMarple2

Jack,

Devin Nunes told Dan Bongino in his interview that he and his staff paid attention to those sleuths, because it gave them ideas on where to search.

MissMarple2

Thanks again to ⁦⁦@dbongino⁩ Here’s the link if you missed it: https://t.co/FfAbMBzVwf

— Devin Nunes (@DevinNunes) December 23, 2019

Link goes to podcast interview.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Nancy Pelosi, who has already lost the House & Speakership once, & is about to lose it again, is doing everything she can to delay the zero Republican vote Articles of Impeachment. She is trying to take over the Senate, & Cryin’ Chuck is trying to take over the trial. No way!....

....What right does Crazy Nancy have to hold up this Senate trial. None! She has a bad case and would rather not have a negative decision. This Witch Hunt must end NOW with a trial in the Senate, or let her default & lose. No more time should be wasted on this Impeachment Scam!

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