Begun They Have, The Prog Wars

OK, this was neither conciliatory nor well-planned by Warren:

Warren Told Sanders After Debate, ‘I Think You Called Me a Liar on National TV’

Bernie did NOT respond with "If the moccasin fits...", and mores the pity.

I don't think Warren will win a pissing match about credibility. Gail Heriot takes us back to Warren's medical bankruptcy "study", which at most revealed a crisis of disability insurance (and when a progressive has lost FactCheck...).

Warren's Fauxcahontas story is well known, as is her brilliantly planned Big Reveal that she might be 1/1024 Native American, so take that, Trump.

Let's not even mention Medicare For All, her "I was for it before I was for it but later" own goal.

And more recently, the WaPo took a look at her conveniently evolving standards on big dollar donations.

Warren is fighting the wrong battle with the wrong guy. Yet another display of poor judgment on her part.

 

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Andy McCarthy;
Apple v. Attorney General Barr: Giving feds access to smartphones is a bad call

[Threadkiller]

Did you start laughing when the MittMike vote error was corrected long before you showed up?

[henry]

Ayatollah Schumer

[Jane]

"have any of you signed up for the VIP thingy on PJM and its affiliates?"

I have. I forget what it cost but there is always a discount. I read it all the time so I can't recall what is not published elsewhere.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

May have already been linked;Europe's precarious position is of its own making. It's not too late to reverse
Victor Davis Hanson

A perfect illustration of the ideologues distorted world;

Europe itself is naturally rich in fossil fuels. It likely has more reserves of shale gas than the United States, currently the world's largest producer of both oil and natural gas. Yet in most European countries, horizontal drilling and fracking to extract gas and oil are either illegal or face so many court challenges and popular protests that they are neither culturally nor economically feasible.
The result is that Europe is almost entirely dependent on Russian, Middle Eastern and African sources of energy.

It's better to subject oneself to the whims of corrupt and maniacal dictators who strip their countries bare to extract resources than it is to cleanly, responsibly and domestically produce your own.

[Captain Hate]

Roberts has to go before he destroys the judiciary he claims to protect.

[Narciso]

Hes like one of the lizard people of the trade federation

[Captain Hate]

Funny, I don’t see ANY “anti-Mormon” comments here.

I saw a few comments that were specifically phrased to not be anti Mormon.

[jimmyk]

FISA, Kris, Boasberg and all they wrought needs to be nailed to the doorforehead of CJ Roberts.

Fixed.

Seriously, I've seen no evidence that Roberts cares, or is in fact not part of the cabal.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I was surprised by the anti-Mormon comments.--

Mormons are generally among the most liked and respected individuals by pretty much everyone except malicious progs. And the criticisms of Romney, Lee and other Mormons is almost always aimed at their politics or character flaws.
Having said that the full and complete doctrines of the Mormon faith are problematic, to say the least.

[lyle]

CJ Roberts gave up the game when he claimed there was no such thing as an “Obama judge.”

[Captain Hate]

Yes, Iggy, I think it was first Janet and then you that pointed out their doctrines and corrected my misapprehensions. That said, they're overwhelmingly nice people who can believe what they want.

[Captain Hate]

Now *this* is a reliable source

Judge Sullivan just agreed to delay General Flynn's sentencing while he considers Flynn's request to withdraw his guilty plea.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2020 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

[Melinda]

Excessive ZTE orders?

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/16/air-force-two-star-fired-amid-investigation-misconduct-allegations.html

[MissMarple2]

Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
·
1h
Schumer: If any of my colleagues had doubts about the case for witnesses and documents in a Senate trial, the stunning revelations this week should put those to rest. We have new information about a plot by the president’s attorney & his associates to oust an American ambassador.
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Got that? "STUNNING REVELATIONS!" Are you stunned, after Michael Cohen, that they managed to find another guy they could lean on? Who is going to investigate this weasel? The FBI? Please.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A plot to oust an ambassador that serves at the president's pleasure and may be ousted at any time for any or no cause.
You can't make this shit up.

[Threadkiller]

The Senate isn’t giving out pens.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Yes, Iggy, I think it was first Janet and then you that pointed out their doctrines and corrected my misapprehensions. That said, they're overwhelmingly nice people who can believe what they want.--

Absolutely. But they can't believe one thing and claim they believe another.
And it has been my personal experience that the large majority of the Mormon laity has little or no knowledge of most of the problematic doctrines and simply think of themselves as standard Christians, which, I suppose they are since it is belief in the problematic stuff they don't know about and aren't taught that creates the problem.

[Neo]

Obama broke the law in Bergdahl release deal, GAO report says

[Buckeye]

lyle

When Buckeyette was in 1st grade, her closest playmate around the corner was Mormon.

Nice kid, seven brothers and sisters, 2 of which did residency with Jr.

Her dad is world renown for a surgery he developed for some auditory problem. He is now at Harvard/MassGen.

Only significant interaction we have had with Mormans, and it was all good.

[Barbara]

Nancy Pelosi's "Word Salad"

This is a very important day for us and as you know I reference temporal markers that our Founders and our poets and others have used over time to place us in time, to emphasize the importance of time, because everything is about time, how we use it how we mik-, how we mark it and today is an important day because today is the day that we name the managers, we go to the floor to pass the resolution to transmit the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate and later in the day, when we have our engrossment, that we march those Articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate. As I've said, it's always been, Our Founders when they started "When in the course of human events it becomes necessary" when, Abraham Lincoln "four score and seven years ago," Thomas Paine, now are the times, "These are the times that try men's souls, the times have found us." Again and again, even our poets, Longfellow, remember, "Listen, my children and you will hear of the midnight ride of Paul Revere, on the 18th of April of '75, hardly a man is now alive that remembers that famous day and year." It's always about marking history using time. On December 18th, the House of Representatives impeached the president of the United States, an impeachment that will last forever.

See the video at https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/the_democrats_weird_response_to_sending_the_impeachment_articles_to_the_senate.html

[henry]

I had an uncle convert to Mormon, get married, attain his Navy Wings, do several A-7 tours in Nam. Big family. They all seem normal to me.

[henry]

Nahnceee. You left one founder out. "A republic if you can keep it."

[Tom R]

The unreasonable hatred of the President is beyond my comprehension.

Progtards hate Christians, the Constitution, capitalism, conservatives and the 63+ million voters who align with one or more of those four demographics.

[clarice]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-iran-took-americans-hostage-bernie-backed-irans-defenders
FTA:Far from denouncing the acts, Sanders stood with those who applauded the hostage taking.
If Sanders were to become the Democratic presidential nominee, all this will come pouring out in Trump ads on television and social media. Voters will see TV clips of the American hostages, blindfolded and abused, alongside Sanders as the Trotskyist elector supporting the Iranian kidnappers. Rest assured, Trump will make absolutely sure that it is Sanders’ own past that will bury him and perhaps the Democratic Party.

[KevlarKid]

Nancy tossing salad... imagine her speaking her "truth" into the mic aboard a short yellow tour bus carting 7 impeachment "mongers" over to the festivities fondling their jive ass pens.

Charles Manson was more lucid during his moments in the sun.

[Tom R]

LSU wins the national championship and within days they lose the brains behind their offense to the NFL, 7 juniors to the NFL draft, and now this, which IMO is pretty lame on the police force's part.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/arrest-warrant-issued-for-odell-beckham-over-alleged-battery-on-police-officer/ar-BBZ1woh?ocid=ientp

[lyle]

Buckeye, only Utah has a bigger Mormon population than Idaho. I’ve been around them for over four decades. Go to any town in this state, no matter how small or remote, and there’s an LDS ward. I know for a fact that there’s a small anti-Mo faction in this state but my dealings with them have been nothing but pleasant. Our former veterinarian (retired) is LDS an an utter prince of a guy.

[KevlarKid]

"House Intelligence"

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--when we have our engrossment--

Nancy...dear, sweet Nancy, each and every congress is engrossed the minute it is seated and the citizenry considers your engrossment not only unimpeachable but unembiggenable.

[henry]

link to article.

Raheem Kassam
@RaheemKassam

The "law" the Trump admin "broke" is HUGELY contentious and probably unconstitutional.

This Supreme Court would likely strike it down.

It was passed in '74, created the administrative state, gave crazy spending power to Congress.

I explain simply, here:

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1217849876626788353

[clarice]

Scarborough adopts NK three generation rule.https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/354996/

[henry]

CNBC @CNBC
now

Carlos Beltran is out as New York Mets manager as the MLB cheating fallout continues

[JM Hanes]

Dalia al-Aqidi is challenging Ihan Omar for Congress, and her "campaign launch video" is terrific. She'd get my vote, if that were legal, but she's definitely on my contribution list: Dalia for Congress. I waiting to see if someone will step up to challenges AOC and other members of the squad, but frankly I think Omar is pure poison. Hopefully, we can limit her to one termer.

[KevlarKid]

Beltran is a dipstick.

[KevlarKid]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/15/a-normal-court-would-reject-a-dishonest-prosecutor-like-adam-schiff/

[Jane]

We have some Mormons here. I find it hard to criticize that (or any religion). Altho I'm becoming a lot less tolerant of Muslims, probably because I know none.

Just went to the Park's Wine and Cheese party - which started, if you can believe it - at 2:00 PM. I've lived here for 5 years and maybe recognized 10 people. My Happy Coffee has got me going out and about a lot more.

[jimmyk]

That's a good thread @2:43.

The gist is that in addition to being unconstitutional, it wasn't cited in the articles of impeachment, in any case it's a civil not a criminal violation, Obama broke similar 'laws' (per the GAO) several times, and LOLGF.

I may have added that last one.

[JM Hanes]

Forgot to say I picked up the Dalia video over at Ace's place.

[Jane]

"We have some Mormons here."

And by "here" I mean JOM.

[Tom R]

More accusations in the MLB sign stealing scandal.

https://www.nj.com/yankees/2020/01/mlb-rumors-carlos-beltrans-niece-says-astros-jose-altuve-alex-bregman-wore-devices-that-buzzed-as-part-of-sign-stealing-scandal.html

[KevlarKid]

What's Wrong with Grandma?

[JM Hanes]

Melinda:

I thought Moldova was a fictional country created by Hollywood!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--She'd get my vote, if that were legal...--

If you registered as a Dem you wouldn't have to worry about such trivial niceties.

[peter]

Instapundit very clever on that link--"pass the juche on the left hand side.."

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I thought Moldova was a fictional country created by Hollywood!--

Oh brother. And you're always going on about how much you love maps.
Moldova is ancient. It's right next to Freedonia.
Look it up, genius.

[Captain Hate]

Bregman was so much of a dick in the Series I don't think anyone would miss him. It really makes the Nats win even more impressive when you consider that Stras and Scherzer beat them twice even when they knew what was coming. They laid off pitches that ordinarily would be impossible to take and also hit some perfect pitches off the screws. Stras was just dominant but Max had to work out of jams a *lot*.

[JM Hanes]

LOL, Ignatz!

[KevlarKid]

https://twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1217510484716539904?s=20

Mildly irreverent rant about Megxit. NSFW ;)

[jimmyk]

CH, I mentioned this before, and I'm sure if I'm wrong you'll tell me :), but I don't think the cheating that the Astros have been charged with is alleged to have occurred in the 2019 series. Only 2017 (and 2018 by the Red Sox).

[Captain Hate]

I'm positive they were doing it last year, jimmyk. Check out Tom's link.

[KevlarKid]

Al Capp's Slobbovia

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I thought it was on this map but this appears to be after Moronica and Jerkola partitioned Moldova and Freedonia into the rump state of Staywayoff;

[MissMarple2]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1217854962107142144.html

Thread by David Steinberg

BIG Ilhan Omar update:

Federal investigators finally seem to be reviewing the overwhelming evidence against @IlhanMN.

And at least THREE agencies are considering her case:

1. The @FBI,
2. The DofEd. Inspector General,
3. ... And @ICEgov.

[John S]

J.M.Haynes:"I [am] waiting to see if someone will step up to challenges AOC and other members of the squad, but frankly I think Omar is pure poison. Hopefully, we can limit her to one termer.

Why would you want to lose the most effective wrench-in-the-gears causing the Democrats to go into blind circles?

[jimmyk]

I'm positive they were doing it last year

Ok, hadn't seen that link. That seems to be new news today, not what was reported in the last few days (which was only about 2017-18). Not surprising I suppose.

[Tom R]

Jimmyk @ 3:14

In that article I linked the accusation is that the Astros were still stealing signs in 2019. The difference this time around is that instead of banging a trash can in the dugout some players had vibrating devices hidden underneath their jersey.

If that is proven to be true those players should get suspended.

[JM Hanes]

Hair on Fire Map:

[Frequency of Red Hair in Europe]

[jimmyk]

Moldova is ancient. It's right next to Freedonia.

Hey, my maternal great grandparents were from a town that was in Moldavia (now called Moldova but with a different boundary). That became part of Bukovina, in the Austrian empire, and now is in the Ukraine. Fortunately they left for America around 1910, since all the Jews in the town that remained were killed or sent to the camps 30 years later.

[jimmyk]

Isn't the obvious solution for MLB is to let catchers and managers to use electronic devices to send signs? I know purists would blanch, but it wouldn't fundamentally change the game. It would just fight technology with technology.

[rse]

JMH-

thanks for that. Red is a copper penny ginger and when she was with me once when she was about 10 at a hair salon the colorist tried to figure out what combo she could use to replicate that color.

I showed her maureen o'hara in a hollywood movie and she laughed. Hubby's mom's family were all irish.

[D]

Well I waited to see a post trashing Toomey for voting against the trade deal.
Much more effective to blame folks who in fact voted for it.
I have no objection to the boys from Utah as long as they vote correctly.
How many judges have those 2 senators confirmed.
So happy to have those REPUBLICAN votes for judges.
According to sources Mike Lee has opposed the wide berth of the FISA judges and wants to rein that whole operation in.
Some posters here have expressed the same sentiment.

[hoyden]

Maybe the eggspurts should quit their day jobs and go to work for global warming doomsday predictions.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/01/all-times-experts-were-right-about.html?m=1

[D]

Jimmyk:
Yesterday Scarborough said baseball has always had people trying to figure out signals.
Like that makes it acceptable?
I have an idea.
Let us just play the game and stop the cheating.
Winning isn’t everything or the only thing.
Character and conscience count too.
Any victory achieved by cheating is tainted.

[D]

A good friend recently returned from 18 months in Moldova as part of a Peace Corps program.

[MissMarple2]

AccuWeather
@breakingweather
·
31m
A change and reality check is coming soon in the weather pattern that will allow longer-lasting, more frequent waves of cold air to roll across the eastern half of the United States: https://bit.ly/2uaBsNp
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I am not thrilled with this. I also see there is a snow storm moving south from Michigan which should arrive Friday night.

[D]

Stock market ignores the impeachment kerfuffle.

[Old Lurker]

"Roberts cares, or is in fact not part of the cabal."

Was obvious to me when he changed the words in the ACA so he could flip and call it legal afterall. Nuf said.

[Barbara]

I'm positive they were doing it last year

I think so, too, Captain.

Now, I'm not naive enough to believe that the stealing of signals has never happened in the past or that the bullpen of a team that has been burning up the league all season can't suddenly go sideways. It can happen. However, given what we now know, I want those play-offs back.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
11m
I JUST GOT IMPEACHED FOR MAKING A PERFECT PHONE CALL!

[jimmyk]

All that anti-vaping legislation that was put in place or considered was evidently based on about as much substance as Trump's Russian collusion.

A new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) puts the final nail in the coffin of the idea that the spat of lung injuries that occurred beginning last summer were caused by “vaping.” The CDC admitted this week that the injuries appear to be exclusively linked to marijuana vapes—not nicotine e-cigarettes, most of which were purchased on the black market, a fact that CEI knew nearly six months ago.

CDC Confirms Black Markets, not “Vaping,” Caused Outbreak

[Threadkiller]

Well I waited to see a post trashing Toomey for voting against the trade deal.

Who cares?

[MissMarple2]

Mark Knoller
@markknoller
·
4m
In Oval Office event, Pres Trump heard from students and teachers who encountered opposition when trying to pray in public schools. @POTUS
insists on the right to pray and says blocking prayer "is totally unacceptable."

[Old Lurker]

Furthermore, Jimmy, some have begun to do the math on the incremental number of current vapers-to-quit-smoking group who, should all vaping be banned as many seem to demand, will resume smoking and then die early from lung cancer.

[clarice]

The rules on vaping include requiring signatures on deliveries of them by UPS--PITA. It's easier to get pot now.

[Tom R]

jimmyk @ 3:57

What about popcorn lung which is caused by the chemical diacetyl found in many vaping juices.

https://www.health.com/condition/smoking/vaping-what-is-popcorn-lung

[JM Hanes]

I've been triggered!

Every country that England has ever invaded:

[Old Lurker]

Clarice "It's easier to get pot now."

I tried to get some "real" sudafed last summer and I thought the druggist was going to require about ten documents before he would hand them over.

[Captain Hate]

The unfree press gleefully and uncritically regurgitated every scam report on evil vaping.

[Thomas Collins]

"electronic devices to send signs"

If that happens, jimmyk, the next scandal would be the 'Stros and Bosox hiring hackers to intercept the signs!

[Captain Hate]

Is sudafed still purportedly a raw material source for meth labs?

[Thomas Collins]

OL,I was buying a couple of bottles of DayQuil and a couple of bottles of NyQuil. The Walgreen's clerk, who looked 10 years old, started quizzing me about why I needed so much cold medicine.

[JM Hanes]

You know what would be really fantastic? Imagine Trump making a play for California.

[Melinda]

Off Shore tax fraud cases against ex- publicly traded company execs? Yes, please!

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/former-president-newell-rubbermaid-sentenced-tax-fraud-related-offshore-asset

Going to have to start asking about this as due diligence, now.

[MissMarple2]

Acosta: *interrupts*@realDonaldTrump: "Quiet." pic.twitter.com/FxXNOVnBIt

— The Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) January 16, 2020

Video at the link.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Why not just make it illegal to NOT steal signs?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020/01/16/donald-trump-proclaims-religious-freedom-day-2020/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Vaping "science " is the new second hand smoke science. And diesel particulates. And Roundup. And Alar. And climate. And...

[clarice]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-receives-another-postcard-from-the-swamp-11579208698?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb
GAO full of it.

[Captain Hate]

Everyone tries to steal signs but using tech is a no no. That's like saying let Pete Rose in the HOF because everyone gambles. He knew the rules and broke them. It's like saying there's no original sin because everyone eats apples.

[Captain Hate]

Reagan won California in 1984 by over 16%

[Captain Hate]

Matt Taibbi continues his LOLGF crusade

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=385332

[lurkersusie]

We’ll see what happens

Undercover Huber
@JohnWHuber
·
21m
The Judge in Virginia has ordered CNN to respond to Nunes defamation complaint by tomorrow (Friday Jan 17)
Quote Tweet

[JimNorCal]

"I waited to see a post trashing Toomey for voting against the trade deal."

Didn't have time. So, now:
What's up with that Toomey guy? He seemed so promising at first, also quite combative against Dems. Then, over the years I only ever see his name when he's knifing some conservative in the back ...

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/wife_beaters_delight_chesa_boudin_launches_program_to_let_hoodlums_off_if_they_have_a_kid_nearby.html

[lurkersusie]

Barr is Wydens puppet

Betsy Woodruff Swan
@woodruffbets
· 4h
New: Wyden urges Wray and Barr not to cooperate with the Grassley/Johnson Ukraine investigation

https://thedailybeast.com/top-democrat-sen-wyden-asks-fbi-to-refuse-to-cooperate-with-grassleys-ukraine-investigation

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/bernie_sanderss_refusal_to_fire_violent_progulag_communist_on_staff_speaks_volumes.html

[henry]

Per AncestryDNA, I am a ginger. (Yes, a mirror could have told me that for free).

[Theo]

Jane —

Re Chappaquiddick. Sigh. I am sorry that I did not communicate more clearly.

1. I did not “make up” anything. The theory that Kopechne was driving while Teddy hid in the bushes was published in early 1970 by best selling author Jack Olson. He picked it up from a Mass State Police investigator assigned to the case. Both men spent a lot of time on the island. I had nothing to do with it.

2. I was not advocating that theory, merely reporting it. It has some problems, including that it is based entirely on speculation and conjecture. It does however explain some things that are otherwise hard to explain. Anyone interested should read Olson’s book.

3. ManTran asked about her state of dress when her body was found. Sort of interesting. She was completely buttoned up, all the way up to her neck. However, she was not wearing any underpants under her slacks. Perhaps that means something and maybe it does not.

4 Kennedy’s claim that he made a “wrong turn” and headed down the dirt road by mistake is plainly a lie. There is little reason to doubt that he was driving the cat that the cop saw and went down that road deliberately. The business about switching drivers before they got to the bridge is as I said just speculation.

Yes, it was a long time ago and a lot of blood has gone over the bridge since then.

[Tom R]

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-senate-trial-kicks-off-090000031.html

Despite Trump’s conflicting statements about wanting witnesses to defend him during the Senate trial, White House officials said Wednesday the president’s team is seeking a short trial and that no additional testimony is needed.

Who knows what Trump will want by the time the vote is taking on whether to vote for dismissal of charges or a quick acquittal.

Together they have the power to join with Democrats on key questions like whether to subpoena former National Security Adviser John Bolton, acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and a trove of documents sought by the House but blocked by the president.

So let me get this straight. If the RINOs side with the Democrats, then the Democrat can subpoena witnesses they believe will damage Trump. Will those same RINOs be able to prevent Trump's lawyers from issuing subpoenas for Hunter Biden, Ciaramella or anyone else who can provide damaging information against the Democrats?