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January 12, 2020

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BeastsEngland

Couldn’t resist... 😎

Sandy Daze

It will be MAGAlicious !

Sandy Daze

Guess thaipad didn't ike my link to Chi-Com spyware on Samsung phones. Them dirty rotten bastard Chi-Coms....

Sandy Daze

Probably won' like this link to Chi-Com subversive groups working to undermind the next US Presidential election, from Epoch Times, dated 31 Dec 19:

40 Million New Democrat Voters: Will the ‘State Power Caucus’ Destroy America?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/40-million-new-democrat-voters-will-the-state-power-caucus-destroy-america_3187673.html

Sandy Daze

Let me try the spyware link again:

https://hackaday.com/2020/01/09/spyware-discovered-on-all-samsung-phones/

Sandy Daze

Whelp, one outta two isn't so bad...

Sandy Daze

This is why I dropped in this afternoon, just to say:70537848-2496011457392779-2776127862107799552-n

Sandy Daze

This is what we're working on up here:

Michigan-Trump-Victory

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Great quote from Sir Roger Scruton;

"A writer who says that there are no truths, or that all truth is ‘merely relative,’ is asking you not to believe him. So don’t."

Another Bob

Willowed.

If half of what Surber is relaying by way of facts and speculations is true, the corruption of the Obama admin, and probably prior is worse than I ever imagined.

I also never checked the passenger list but all but four of the “Canadians” have Arabic names.

Yeah, the airplane shootdown was no accident.

Sandy Daze

Is it okay to post images of my dogs too?

Hitch-front-Jack-28-Jan19

Hitch (1 1/2 years) in front and Jack (2 1/2)

They're good boys, brothers actually from subsequent litters by the same dame and sire.


Sandy Daze

Oh, okay, I see the list is returning to its regular programming.

MAGA.

Jim Eagle

jane,

What do you mean you met Mr. and Mrs. Clarice on a plane over the Ozarks? Like today or were you answering a question?

Threadkiller

I also never checked the passenger list but all but four of the “Canadians” have Arabic names.

Yeah, the airplane shootdown was no accident.

I have missed this theorizing. Tell me more, please.

GUS

Absolutely stupid call by Houston. I rarely disagree with Tony Romo, but the RISK for HOUSTON, was not worth it.

GUS

Fake punt let KC back in the game.

GUS

WILD.

KevlarKid

Brent Musberger has a wad on KC.

OH. GEE. A COMEBACK.

TX knows Homie is going for Kelsie/87....jump the damn route.

Jim Eagle

Hey, Beasts. The old firm just opened an office in Rocket City. Its in the Cummings Research Park (CRP). Do you know the area.

Jim Eagle

That Kelce is a beast. So KC is doing a reversal of what Houston did last week to Buffalo. Crazy game, crazy league.

Another Bob

TK...

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/01/one-missile-one-iranian-regime-change.html

GUS

the FAKE PUNT change the game. Mahomes is for real, and KC is at home.
I have no dog in this (heh heh) HUNT, but JJ WATT is from Pewaukee, 5 miles away.
Kev, I think it's JIM NANCE.

KevlarKid

what is this? the XFL?

henry

Yes, game on video, but audio on music of your choice. Only way to watch.

KevlarKid

ya GUS. Nance is announcing the game. yer right.

i was referring to Mustyberger's appearance on 49er radio the other day where he went into detail about where Vegas was putting their (and he his) dough.

he was Jimmy the Greek's buddy since the NFL/CBS let that gambling shark onto the national stage.

wasnt a head scratcher that Musberger got the Raiders radio contract when their move to Vegas was announced.

but i digress.

KevlarKid

GUT CHECK TIME.

DrJ

henry,

I agree. In the old days I would have the radio announcers on, who usually were quite good, and get rid of the TV announcers.

That no longer seems to be an option. I enjoy the games and the incredible athletics, but having something else in the background is great. I should have done this a long time ago.

DrJ

Good G*d! KC is making a game out of this one!

Dave (in MA)

It looked to me that Mahomes was past the LoS.

GUS

Nance and Romo said that this game was going to be a SLUG FEST, after KC caught up.
KC, is COMPLETELY in the drivers' seat.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

After Lon Simmons and Bill King, there is no joy in Northern CA sports announcing.

MissMarple2

Sandy Daze,

Are your boys Border Collies? My dad had those because we raised Dorset sheep. When my son was a toddler we used to know where he was on the farm grounds because Moochie would follow him around with his tail up, so we could see where they were.

Very smart dogs! My dad trained them with whistles and hand signals.

Dave (in MA)

Steve Scalise@SteveScalise·
Pelosi said today: – Trump won't be president next year "one way or another" – Dems may "have him removed sooner" than the election – Trump "will be impeached forever" It's clear: Impeachment was a Democrat hit job to stain Trump’s legacy and hurt him at the polls. Nothing more.


He'd better watch out; the Democrats might shoot him again.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

While looking up a little info on that book The Mind Parasites I ran across this wiki passage about the author;

Tobe Hooper directed the film Lifeforce, based on Wilson's novel The Space Vampires. After its release, Colin Wilson recalled that author John Fowles regarded the film adaptation of Fowles' own novel The Magus as the worst film adaptation of a novel ever. Wilson told Fowles there was now a worse one.

It is a pretty comically bad movie HOWEVER it does feature an extraordinarily attractive space vampire vamping about in her birthday suit.

JM Hanes

Sammy Small:

I love picturing you and your guys'' wild and crazy cross country blow out in '79. What a trip that must have been!

Dave (in MA)

LOL, Zo.

Scott Zolak@scottzolak·1h
RUN IT UP!!!!karna is a mother fucker. You beat
your kid & break his arm. Eat it. 21-0 assholes

Tom R

Scott Adams disagrees with TK’s assessment of Gaetz’ intelligence.

https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1216059659179552770?s=21

Adams defends his position in the comments.

Someone like Jonathan Turley could answer this question. Can the AUMF that gave Bush Jr the authority to invade Iraq still be used 15+ years later to legally give Trump the authority to attack Iran? That is one of the arguments McClintock is making and seems to be in direct conflict with Trump’s opposition to endless wars.

clarice

Thnx, Jane, but ahem..it wasn't a "plane over the Ozarks" unless you took a wrong turn on the highway and were driving very fast.

DrJ

Iggy,

This will show my region as a kid, but I loved Al Kaline and George Kell. JimmyK will understand.

Tom R

Went to walk the dogs with Texans up 21-0. Got back and KC was up 28-24. Looks like I missed an entertaining 2nd quarter. Now I have to run to the grocery store. No telling what the score will look like by the time I get back.

Threadkiller

That is one of the arguments McClintock is making and seems to be in direct conflict with Trump’s opposition to endless wars.

I would love to hear this “direct conflict” articulated.

Captain Hate

Brent's preoccupations with better lines was an ongoing joke.

Threadkiller

I can’t get your Adams link to open, Tom.

Captain Hate

betting lines

Dave (in MA)

At one point I was giving serious consideration to not watching the 2nd half.

Tom R

TK

Fairly simple to articulate. Trump has been critical of endless wars in the Middle East. McClintock is arguing that if Trump wants to escalate the conflict and attack Iran then Trump can use the 15+ year old AUMF, which itself was used to legally allow all the endless wars.

Jane

Clarice,

I only hit 90 once on the way home. I’m well aware of the importance of keeping your location secret!particularly after today’s Pieces!

Threadkiller

McClintock is arguing that if Trump wants to escalate the conflict and attack Iran...

Without question you neither listened to McClintock or read his speech.

You can do better than create such a lie.

MissMarple2

This was my grandson's first-ever actual birthday party, since his mother never did anything like that for him.

When he was opening his presents, he said "I am so excited!" It was just so cute and heart-warming. My daughter-in-law went out of her way to make it special for him. She invited not only relatives but friends from school. The cake, favors, and decorations were all with a Toy Story theme, which is his favorite movie. It was very nice.

Dave (in MA)
Adam Baldwin@AdamBaldwin · Adult NFL players feel “taunted” by having the ball dropped on the ground in front of them. 😫

#RefInterference

Extraneus

I have missed this theorizing. Tell me more, please.

I know that wasn't directed at me, but I saw speculation that many of the people on the plane may have been insiders trying to get outta Dodge, and were purposely shot down. Not sure if the advanced theory has them as Soleimani allies or not, but it's more interesting than some dickweed manning a missile battery right near the airport accidentally shooting down a big lumbering passenger jet that just took off.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Someone like Jonathan Turley could answer this question. Can the AUMF that gave Bush Jr the authority to invade Iraq still be used 15+ years later to legally give Trump the authority to attack Iran?--

He didn't attack Iran. He killed Iranians [and Iraqis] in Iraq who were killing and orchestrating the killing of Americans.

-- McClintock is arguing that if Trump wants to escalate the conflict and attack Iran then Trump can use the 15+ year old AUMF, which itself was used to legally allow all the endless wars.--

McClintock himself says he considers the AUMF a mistake but since it does exist and has never been rescinded his point is congress has no say in how the President uses the force they authorized.
I doubt anyone except expedient progs and consistent libertarians consider the targeted execution of our enemies to be part of an "endless war".

Buckeye

If a bunch of "Canadian" scientists who have been enabling Iran's nuclear activity got exterminated, whether by accident or on purpose, OK by me.

Another Bob

Ext, that’s exactly the speculation Surber’s blog contained. Coupled with speculation that other IRGC brass have been arrested.

The argument that this flight was somehow different than the other departures to the north and to Ukraine have been seemingly debunked. That it’s flight profile resembled a fighter or cruise missile, also debunked.

MissMarple2

pic.twitter.com/5YjLSVEXts

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2020

Video at the link. 6:47 minutes; Steve Bannon with Maria Bartiromo.

Another Bob

“ He killed Iranians [and Iraqis] in Iraq”

That’s a good point that needs emphasis. It’s being implied that Trump is starting a new conflict. He isn’t.

Buckeye

I can't remember, is dressing up like an Ayatollah part of Justin's schtick?

MissMarple2

pic.twitter.com/2iv5aiFEVu

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2020

Video at link. First part of Bannon's appearance.

Another Bob

Passenger list: https://www.flyuia.com/ca/en/news/2020/flight-ps752-passenger-list

clarice

Bryen indicated he didn't see how it could be accidental. My usual fallback is not to underestimate the effect of stupid.

MissMarple2

🚨If you like your President, you can Keep your President! pic.twitter.com/7G3Bm5PFHO

— ✞🎀🎄TrumpGirlOnFire ⚡️Text Trump to 88022 (@TrumpGirlOnFire) January 12, 2020

Graphic at the link.

Jane

What do you guys think of the speculation that delaying impeachment was to hurt Bernie and help Biden?

clarice

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/chelsea-clinton-big-bucks-tammy-bruce
No wonder Chelsea says she never bothers about money.

Another Bob

Interesting (?) thread about the mechanics of the cash transfer to Iran.

Another Bob

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1216454946456866816?s=21

lyle

Beasts!

Jane

The Fisa Court needs to be dismantled. Who has that power?

Melinda

ABob-

That manifest from the Great Tehran Turkey Shoot was turned over and wrung thoroughly by the Anons. Most of the passengers had enormously coincidental backgrounds in avionics (missile), nukular pheesics, tunnel engineering, and light/heavy water pheesics. Plus their entire families. Sad that so many families were included by just an amazing coincidence that basically all their “super secret scientists”, from Canada of course, were on that plane.

Makes one wonder if Justine’s been selling travel credentials as a side biz....

Dave (in MA)
Howie Carr @HowieCarrShow · Spy Court Picks FISA Abuse Denier To Tackle FISA Abuse https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/12/spy-court-picks-fisa-abuse-denier-to-tackle-fisa-abuse/#.Xhuh-fbHkj4.twitter WE'LL DISCUSS THE APPT. OF THIS GOATEED PAJAMA BOY TOMORROW W/JOE DIGENOVA.
Theo

From the old thread:

JMH —

Good points about Jefferson and Hamilton. Some people just don’t want to believe that TJ was the father and no amount of evidence will persuade them. However the evidence also suggests a real relationship, albeit a complicated one.

Hamilton understood the future much better than Jefferson. He also founded an abolitionist society in NY. The progs don’t lije him because he was a capitalist and a certain strain of conservatives don’t like him because he invented the national debt.

Both were great in their own way. Both were flawed. Hamilton had the first sex scandal in US government history.

Another Bob

Mel, implying it was anti-regime Iranians - or not Iranians at all - that downed the plane?

Another Bob

And nothing Justine does would surprise me.

Another Bob

Anyone else thinking that Romo hasn’t brought his A-game today?

Melinda

No, it was the traveling research team was the implication, Iranians, but with Canadian citizenship. I have no idea whether they visited North Korea, but it wouldn't shock me if they had.

Melinda

Who turned on the Tor system for just that flight?

No clue.

Tom R

He didn't attack Iran. He killed Iranians [and Iraqis] in Iraq who were killing and orchestrating the killing of Americans.

Yes and all of that was justified. It’s doesn’t have anything to do with the point Gaetz was making and which countless JOMers have advocated for over the years.


McClintock himself says he considers the AUMF a mistake but since it does exist and has never been rescinded his point is congress has no say in how the President uses the force they authorized.

Exactly which is the same fundamental point I made that TK accused me of lying about.

Melinda

Enuff.

DrJ

Off.

Neo

What is an “IC attorney” ?

Threadkiller

Tom, please quote McClintock saying that he wants the AUMF extended to attacking Iran. That will settle everything.

Threadkiller

What McClintock said:

What DID give the President that authority in this case was the fact that Soleimani was acting as an armed combatant against U.S. forces in a war zone in which Congress had authorized the President to take military action when it adopted the Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq in 2002.

Go ahead and extrapolate “attack Iran” from that quote.

Another Bob

“ it was the traveling research team”

If that’s the case, there’s definitely “some next-level shit goin’ on” /Will Smith

Gentlejim

Neo,
Not sure of the context for IC, but I’m guessing independent counsel.

Tom R

Without agreeing to your premise (countless JOMers), what on earth difference does it make how many or few JOMs have supported some position or not?

JMH,

TK was calling Gaetz a “prick” and “stupid”. I merely pointed out that countless JOM posters have advocated for the same position TK was attacking Gaetz on.

Melinda

IC Atty? Intelligence Community Attorney.

Threadkiller

It Is impossible for me to believe you have the pulse of countless JOMers when you still have no clue what I was attacking Gaetz over.

Buckeye

you have the pulse

It is a standard 4-D chess move:)

Captain Hate

Bryen indicated he didn't see how it could be accidental. My usual fallback is not to underestimate the effect of stupid.

No, the only thing stupid was Gaylord and Russia making sure those koranimals had advanced weapons systems and thinking they'd only use them defensively.

Captain Hate

TK was calling Gaetz a “prick” and “stupid”. I merely pointed out that countless JOM posters have advocated for the same position TK was attacking Gaetz on.

I'm frequently a prick here.

JM Hanes

TomR:

Unless you can put a name to some of those "countless JOMers," you need to quit making that assertion, let along making it over and over again. I don't think it's true, but even if it were, so what?

Tom R

TK @ 6:08

Call it reverse logic. The Democrats non-binding resolution was that Trump could not attack Iran without Congressional approval. Seems fairly clear to me McClintock was arguing against that and claiming that thanks to the 15+ year old AUMF Trump could attack Iran without Congressional approval.

Threadkiller

Seems fairly clear to me McClintock was arguing against that and claiming that thanks to the 15+ year old AUMF Trump could attack Iran without Congressional approval.

Even though you have nothing to quote, it seems pretty clear? Ridiculous.

KevlarKid

"Ladies and Gentlemen the flashing ARGUMENTATIVE ASSHOLE light is now on. if you can't spot the asshole, then you know what that means, eh?"

henry

Just turned TV on. I see the ambiguously gay duo is announcing the Packers game. Allman Brothers, easy fix.

Tom R

JMH @ 6:32

Gaetz was making the point that Congress should display some courage and stop abdicating it’s authority to declare war. I’ve seen that point made by countless number of posters here.

KevlarKid

a little "High Falls" here, henry.

D

Congrats to all JOMers for avoiding the fray and keeping this blog moving with many different posters like Beasts and Sandy Daze here to encourage us!
What a game and comeback! Go Seahawks!

GUS

GO PACK GO.

Theo

Jane —

I don’t think that Nancy was trying to screw Bernie by holding on to the articles and I don’t think she was mesmerized by John Dean either. I think she was hoping for some kind of public pressure to build that would cause 4 GOP Senators to agree to call Bolton, etc. I think she saw this as a no lose proposition— she either got more testimony or an argument that Trump was acquitted because of an unfair process. Once McConnel made it clear he had the votes, she caved.

KevlarKid

DeVontae needs to come up big for The Big Cheese.

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