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January 25, 2020

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Old Lurker

Any American citizen should be able to fly between any American cities with any amount of cash and not fear having that seized or even questioned. Period.

Unless there is an outstanding criminal warrant already issued by a court against that person but even then under no circumstances should the government get ownership of assets seized unless and until the person is convicted of a crime and the jury determines who should get the assets.

Any American citizen should be allowed to bring any amount of cash into the country with those same conditions and without having to declare it in advance. What is not to like about having more cash in our domestic money supply?

I am open to discussing rules about exporting large amounts of cash but only to prevent tax fraud. If another crime is suspected, prove it.

henry

Federer fans? Russian bots.

henry

Schiff called out as liar as point one (not by name)

Narciso

Dread pirate roberts@mark o,does earn his title

Narciso

When youve lost rocky

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1220918740172316673

Captain Hate

I can't understand how Mini Mike was elected mayor of NYC. DeCommio I can understand because even though he's as dumb as a brick he's physically large enough that large portions of the city can say "he's a goof but he's our goof". Mini Mike would say "you really shouldn't drink large sodas" and the default response would be "shut up, old man" and that would be the end of the story.

How did that not happen?

Narciso

Colonel nccormick is rolling over


https://mobile.twitter.com/GPollowitz/status/1221070328878768130

Jane

Great opening. Now showing all the Dems lies. Perfect.

Narciso

Well he promised to follow up guilianis policies, ask jimmy to explain it.

Captain Hate

I'm sure he's the type of Repuke trash that litters New York ballots and that the party is unwilling to weed out. Hence DJT.

Buckeye

I think Shifty's Academy Award nomination is already circling the porcelain bowl.

Jane

Are you watching Buckeye? Boy what a difference!

MissMarple2

Did they put Schiff back on? If C-SPAN is screwing around, I demand they have their license revoked.

henry

Cspan has the Trump lawyers on.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?468504-1/senate-impeachment-trial-day-6

henry

Ukraine officials are the dog that didn’t bark.

Jane

So who leaked to Politico? Schiff?

The Infamous Ignatz

--Ig, someone else must have posted the 1:10am under your name.--

See OL's 9:24 above.

Narciso

Vindman or ciaramella who got it from him.

The Infamous Ignatz

--Ignatz —

I have been speed reading/skimming through The True Believer after reading a synopsis of Suicide of the West. My impressions from this less than thorough examination are that a) both books are very dated and do not readily apply to the present day and b) neither is particularly relevant to anything that I posted here yesterday.--

Horse. Led.

Narciso

But you cant make him drink.

Good solid presentation.

MissMarple2

"There is a sense here that positions are hardening; that both sides are unmoved at this point," ABC News' @marykbruce reports as Trump's legal team begins its opening arguments.

"Right now we're not seeing four Republicans racing to join Democrats." https://t.co/IdMXVhZlMN pic.twitter.com/d8ubNA0YA2

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) January 25, 2020

Video at the link.

Jane

I am loving this. What a difference? Day v night.

Another Bob

C-SPAN doesn't have nor need a license MM.

MissMarple2

Even the Green Check Bow Tie guy backs up the information that the Ukrainians didn't know about the hold until September.

Another Bob

CSPAN-2 is showing Sekulow at the moment.

hrtshpdbox

CH, those who say NYC was ruined by Guiliani's Disney-fication also say Bloomberg put the final gentrification stake through the city's heart. For the present day who-gives-a-damn anymore anyway residents, De Blasio fits right in.

henry

Cspan has the video and audio out of sync.

henry

Or might have been my browser buffers.

KevlarKid

ABC News: "right now we're not seeing 4 Republicans racing to join Democrats..."

was it supposed to happen after an hour of WH argyments? or 21 hours Schiff gargling?

Jane

MM,

I think what you saw was a clip of Schiff being a dick played by the speaker.

Jane

What we should be seeing I’d Democrat’s racing to join republicans.

James D.

OL @ 9:24

What is not to like about having more cash in our domestic money supply?

A lot, to the central planners and would-be dictators in the Federal Government (and on Wall Street and Silicon Valley).

Which is all the more reason to use cash.

hrtshpdbox

I thought we want witnesses because that's how Trump can have his people expose Dem's treachery, thus annihilating them forever. I hope that's still the plan, sounds good to me.

The Infamous Ignatz

I thought this was pretty funny, from TWIP comments;

KevlarKid

hey Hakeem! OOOOOOOOPS!

hrtshpdbox

.. rules about exporting large amounts of cash but only to prevent tax fraud.

From your bank, move any amount over 10k anywhwere, overseas or not, and it gets reported to the IRS; it's a privacy horrorshow that everyone just accepts.

KevlarKid

the Fe'ral Gummint. mo cheez mo cheez.

The Infamous Ignatz

Move several amounts under $10,000 to avoid the IRS's gaze and get even more attention because the mere act of avoiding the IRS's gaze is itself criminal even if the money was gained in a perfectly legal manner.

KevlarKid

dint Patriot Act make the war on cash even worse?

hrtshpdbox

Exactly, Ig, even bad thoughts about the Feds gets you put in the cornfield.

Narciso

Yet banamex can launder tens of billions over 20 years time, and they pay a gratuity no jail time, thats who gave mueller a 50 k honoraria a year before he became special counsel. So whos kidding who?

Bela1

Hi everyone. What a difference today. Purpura raised my confidence higher than it has been lately. I want those rat bastards to pay dearly for this awful sham.

Narciso

Who wemt to jail for bcci, not clifford nor altman nor pharaon if memory served david paul served a spell for the florida front

Another Bob

C'mon, name the "whistleblower" already...

Old Lurker

I know, Hrts. I would have started by hanging Lois Lerner and would still be working through the IRS building to this day.

I resent almost all automatic reporting to the IRS by non principal middlemen.

OK, maybe All. Drop "almost".

I am OK with payers who deduct payments on their own tax returns having to report to whom they paid money (W2-1099s etc). And I am OK with payees having to report report what they received from whom, and I do not resent the IRS matching the outgoing and incoming reports up.

But I object to any bank or person in the middle reporting the "flow".

Narciso

He paid a fine but thats about it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.savannahnow.com/bryan-county-now/2017-07-21/former-ford-plantation-owner-dead-76%3ftemplate=ampart

hrtshpdbox

OL, agree completely; unless there's a reason for surveillance, like a pretty high bar indeed that shows someone or some organization engaging in criminal activity, the government should be entitled to no information about legal transactions. F**kers.

Jane

Wow! Last testimony: “Schiff is a liar”!

I wonder if he’s in the room.

Barbara

I am asking for your prayers for my older sister today. She was taken to the hospital last night. We are not sure whether she's had a slight stroke. This morning she seemed to be a bit better, but we will have to wait and see. We're all so worried.

Narciso

Prayers for her barbara

lyle

I know it’s old, but I LOL’d again at The Squawskank Redemption pic in the comments on today’s TWIP.

Old Lurker

Hrts, but like the FISC secret wiretaps and their unbelievable two hop rule, forcing banks to report flows in secret (not known by the account owner) and based on the flimsiest of warrants, is simply a risk to individual freedom and liberty that the Government(s) have demonstrated they will abuse as soon as they get that power.

So sure. Ask for a warrant to look at my bank records and convince a judge with me and my attorney there, then peek away if they get it.

But if we have learned nothing in these past ten years, the damage the Government can/will/is do to We The People while pretending to "protect us" is simply no longer worth the price.

Let criminals be criminals and catch them the old fashioned way and punish them when you get them convicted.

Otherwise, F'off.

Old Lurker

Prayers Barbara.

KevlarKid

Barbara what is your older sister's first name? kindly -Kev

Barbara

MaryAnn, Kev. Thank you for asking.

Jane

Prayers Barbara.

Jane

I thought our side did a GREAT job.

KevlarKid

And the fire's been lit here at home for MaryAnn. A text just went to our intentions tree across California! Family sweat lodge prayer ceremonies all weekend. Peace be with you and your loved ones, Barbara.

lyle

Prayers, Barbara.

HT to everyone else: don’t miss the comments on Insty’s open thread.

KevlarKid

i am audiostreaming the peach mint thru NPR. (fewest hiccups than other "news" channels)

after the WH defense team concluded, the commentator cuts in immediately with:

"the president's rhetorical style is to accuse the opposition with doing what he's accused of doing. and it's pretty much what heard today in the interpretation of the facts presented by Chairman Schiff's blah blah blah..."

right out of Bob's Bizzaro Lounge.

KevlarKid

i agree completely, Jane. it was a big deal for the defense to present facts Schiff left out such as the scheduled mtg in Poland with Ukraine's Zelinski that had to be cancelled due to a hurricane. Pence went in place of POTUS.

lyle

Well, more specifically, the pix in the comments.

KevlarKid

https://wgntv.com/2020/01/24/body-of-missing-notre-dame-student-found-in-campus-lake/amp/

henry

@repadamschiff

After listening to the President’s lawyers opening arguments, I have three observations:

They don’t contest the facts of Trump’s scheme.

They’re trying to deflect, distract from, and distort the truth.

And they are continuing to cover it up by blocking documents and witnesses.

https://twitter.com/repadamschiff/status/1221117035234590720?s=21

rich

my prayer for maryann barbara.

KevlarKid

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/scientist-who-simulated-the-global-impact-of-a-coronavirus-outbreak-says-the-cats-already-out-of-the-bag-and-chinas-efforts-to-contain-the-disease-unlikely-to-be-effective-2020-01-24?mod=ampfoot_mostpop

rich

i'm trying to figure out how schiff is just mistaken not nuts.

Narciso

Look into the case of richard miller amd get back to me.

henry

Schiff is following standard Dem propaganda rule#1: repetition drowns out truth. Neither mistaken nor nuts. Certainly evil.

Narciso

The chicago case happened at least 12 days ago. Thats when she left wuhan, which means its been present for nearly two weeks.

Narciso

Its not an accident at least two of these pandemic films originate in china.

henry

Past examples have the population believing:

Republicans wanted slavery
Democrats care about “working people”
Clinton was impeached for sex
Plame was undercover
Socialism works
The rich are under taxed
etc

Given past performance, it is rational for Schiff to expect this ploy to work again.

Question, is the ledge bar open this early?

Narciso

In at least three of ghose occaaions thd top men saw self defense as superflous.

Buckeye

Something to be said for sewing diamonds in the hem of your coat.

I've mentioned before that Mrs. Buckeye is into collectable needlework.

She doesn't even bother shoving money under the mattress, just hangs it on the wall in plain site:)

Buckeye

Prayers for MaryAnn, and for you Barbara.

JM Hanes

Schiff just counts on people not having actually tuned into the proceedings. Those aren't three observations, they were probably ready to go before the hearing started.

rich

pestilence is saddling up.

when the fbicia go to work on senate schiff we be able to join the cavalry on his red horse

MissMarple2

Barbara,

I ran out to the grocery before you posted about your sister. Of course, I will pray for Mary Ann. I hope it ends up being something minor and that all winds up well for her.

I posted that I was going to the grocery but didn't hit "enter" so none of you saw it. Pffft.

rich

>>>Question, is the ledge bar open this early?

Posted by: henry | January 25, 2020 at 12:45 PM<<<

isn't the bar always open at the ledge?

henry

Yep. Repetition plus exaggeration

@bmaz

Jeebus, John Dean on CNN just said that Trump's legal team may face §1001 liability for lying on the Senate floor. That is just nuts.

henry

Rich, I assumed as much so made a snowy run into town.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/64228/

rich

Posted by: henry | January 25, 2020 at 12:45 PM

one of my favorites ... "last year was the hottest year on record"

[hummm ... didn't the english have a wine industry and the vikings farmed in greenland during the middle ages?]

MissMarple2

Someone needs to ask John Dean why he allowed "Deep Throat" to plant lies about Nixon when he knew the guy was really a disgruntled FBI employee.

Dean has spent over 40 years presenting himself as some super-duper investigative reporter, when all he was doing was taking notes from a leaker with a grudge.

rich

that looks outstanding, i'm going to have to look for that.

henry

Rich, the perennially used “drilling for oil won’t lower the cost of gasoline” to stop any exploration or pipeline in the US. Esp Alaska and offshore anywhere. Classic.

MissMarple2

Mark Meadows
@RepMarkMeadows
·
1h
There is no other way to spin it: The response today from the President’s legal team has been absolutely devastating to the impeachment argument.

The Democrats’ case has been thoroughly exposed.

rich

henry-

we could do this all day ... let's ban plastic straws because of the great pacific garbage patch.

MissMarple2

Rep. Mike Johnson
@RepMikeJohnson

I litigated high-profile constitutional law cases in federal courts for 20 yrs before coming to Congress--and I have never seen a plaintiffs'/prosecutors' case so completely destoyed by an opening defense argument as our team did today.

3 days eviscerated in 2 hrs! BOOM!

12:03 PM · Jan 25, 2020

rich

the obama administration was remarkably scandal free.

henry

Rich, Obama has a high IQ. Or Biden. Or Warren. Or Chuck Todd.

Moochelle is a fashion plate.

henry

The Social Security “Lock Box”

MissMarple2

Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
·
2h
Remember the 4 key facts that have never changed
➡️


1. Call transcript shows no discussion of conditionality;
2. Both Presidents @realDonaldTrump
& Zelensky say no pressure;
3. Ukraine didn't know about the withheld aid at time of call;
4. Aid was released w/ no investigations.

MissMarple2

That "Moochelle is a fashion plate" is the one that sent me absolutely over the edge.

I will bet you the circulation for Vogue and Mademoiselle plummeted, but they will never admit it.

MissMarple2

Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson

The Withdrawal Agreement has received Royal Assent and is now law. We will leave the EU on January 31st
🇬🇧

MissMarple2

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
·
1h
By giving up much of the first day, the White House gave a concise opening, relieved the jury, and pushed the main argument to Monday with a larger television audience. It was a sophisticated and effective strategy that paid off. A very strong start to their case .

Marlene

Good afternoon. Thinking of you Barbara. Stephanie hope your brother is feeling better.
The President's team is impressive. I'm looking forward to Monday.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
3m
Any fair minded person watching the Senate trial today would be able to see how unfairly I have been treated and that this is indeed the totally partisan Impeachment Hoax that EVERYBODY, including the Democrats, truly knows it is. This should never be allowed to happen again!

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

Steve Scalise
@SteveScalise
·
42m
President Trump's legal team completely destroyed 3 days of Adam Schiff's false allegations in just 2 hours. Today was devastating for the Democrats' case.

@realDonaldTrump
will be vindicated.

Democrats tore the country apart for 3 years for nothing. Shameful.

KevlarKid

can both sides stop using any derivative of the word "devastate"? FUCKING.PLEASE.

the only meaningful devastation for the Republic: jail time meted for every last one of these seditious/treasonsous c*cks*cking commie perverters of justice. where that isn't applicable, severe salted earth electoral retribution.

Schiff needs to be voted out of office and prevented from ever winning a senate seat. he's dangerous.

KevlarKid

can both sides stop using any derivative of the word "devastate"? FUCKING.PLEASE.

the only meaningful devastation for the Republic: jail time meted for every last one of these seditious/treasonsous c*cks*cking commie perverters of justice. where that isn't applicable, severe salted earth electoral retribution.

Schiff needs to be voted out of office and prevented from ever winning a senate seat. he's dangerous.

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