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January 22, 2020

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Buckeye

Shifty starts off with Hamilton.

I'm surprised he doesn't have the Broadway cast ready to perform.

Narciso

Thats supposed to reassure me.

Buckeye

And of course, FOX had the PowerPoint slide ready to go.

Melinda

I'm going to have to call it for the mirror.

Dave (in MA)

When I saw that "does not expect to experience thoughts of suicide" stuff earlier I thought it was a snarky Twitter comment that someone added; I didn't realize it was actually part of the text of the lawsuit. Damn, it's too bad she's a lefty.

Melinda

Bwahahahahah!

Less than 20 people show up. This proves to me the money is gone…

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1220024045674094602

henry

LOL

Dan O'Donnell @DanODonnellShow
1h

Even though this is satire, every single statistic about Wisconsin's economy under Governor Evers is 100% true.

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-01-22-a-more-honest-evers-state-of-the-state-address/?

henry

This strikes me as a way to have layoffs more often and sooner. Make failure more expensive, and cut your losses applies much earlier. NJ will end up a wasteland (as if it isn't already).

MarketWatch @MarketWatch
1m

New Jersey to become first state to mandate severance pay for mass layoffs

https://twitter.com/MarketWatch/status/1220050062757285889

Tom R

Bloomberg had already spent more than $225 million on advertising since he entered the race, according to The Post. Fox Business reported on Jan. 18 that Bloomberg is prepared to spend an unheard-of “$2 billion on either his own campaign or to help finance a Democratic nominee to unseat President Trump in the 2020 general election”

How much of that $2 billion Bloomberg is willing to spend comes from money he earned from the booming stock market since Trump took office?

MissMarple2

I am back.

Twitter is full of critics, and none seem to be inspired.

MissMarple2

An example:

Shem Horne
@Shem_Infinite
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25s
Adam Schiff's words say that this is a solemn and grave moment but he can't hide his sly grin while he is up there. This is all about him and his vanity, and his partisan hatred, and he is loving every minute of this whether he admits it or not. Disgusting and pathetic to witness.

MissMarple2

Shem Horne
@Shem_Infinite
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13m
Schiff just lied about President Trump asking Russia to hack Clinton's emails. It has long been established that he was joking about the 33,000 emails she illegally deleted and nothing else. If they had any evidence of guilt they wouldn't need to lie about literally everything.

Tom R

https://apnews.com/98574eda1a5f8e3b9f2a4e7d8b2a7db6

As of today Trump is now back to wanting witnesses called and would like to see the trial go the "long route" which I assume means last a long time and well into the Democrat's primary season.

henry

So is Schiff gonna go 12 hours all by himself?

henry

gabriel wildau @gabewildau
20m

Wuhan authorities just quarantined the entire city. No one permitted to leave without a "special reason".

henry

So Biden is guilty of Treason?

Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2
23m

Schiff explaining that we are at war with Russia thru Ukraine. FYI, America.

Rocco

Jane,

I agree, being an outsider is a big part of it. Here's the link clarice posted in the last thread.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/01/21/trump-haters-should-prepare-for-disappointment/

jimmyk

I'm not planning to watch much of this debacle, but it does seem to me that Schiff has "opened the door" to demanding Joe and Hunter (not to mention others knowledgeable of their activities) testify (if the Senate is going to bother with witnesses) by describing the allegations against them as "discredited."

jimmyk

I can't believe he actually played the video of Trump joking about Russia having Hillary's 30,000 e-mails.

Rocco

Let this sink in Schiff...it started in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine. Four short years after Obama and Clinton sold 20% of our uranium to Russia. Splain that!

henry

He played the video? He has to spend 12 hours on nothing and claim he ran out of time, so needs to call witnesses. I expect lots of time wasting foolery from Schiff.

Robin, Tiger Beat Pompom Girl REHAB Team

From a Powerline comment:

n the federal government, the fiscal year (fy) runs from October 1 through September 30 of the following year. On October 1, 2016, the 2017 fy began. It was still fy 2017 on January 20, 2017, when Trump was inaugurated. Between the 2026 election and the 2017 inauguration, the Obama administration spent nearly the entire fy 2017 National Security Council budget, thereby preventing Trump from being able to bring his own people aboard, at least until November 2017.

This is from a federal employee and it explains a lot about why Trump was essentially hamstrung with his landing parties.

KevlarKid

bad link on that UN Treaty. sorry.

hrtshpdbox

Trump joking about Russia having Hillary's 30,000 e-mails.

I guess that's somehow relevant to one of the impeachment articles (but Hunter Biden isn't).

clarice

5th A does apply in civil suits..though the person invoking it runs the risk of the court deciding against him on the merits in some jurisdictions.
Keto fans:https://spinachtiger.com/grain-free-maple-pecan-bars-keto-friendly-sugar-free

Melinda

Stolen:

"The only way this would be any more glorious is if Schiff had Tourette's."

Buckeye

Mrs. Buckeye is determined to watch this Schitt show.

I'm ready for cocktails on The Ledge.

clarice

In DC years ago Britt Hume faced a substantial loss unless he named his source. I knew the source and helped persuade her to come forward. Privileges can be asserted in civil matters at a cost.
If Hunter doesn't show up or asserts the 5th I'm not sure about the law in Arkansas but I suspect the judge will hit him with a substantial child custody ticket based on public records of what he was paid.

KevlarKid

Typepad ate my question. lol

Isn't POTUS' allegedly high crime conversation with Ukraine re corruption covered by treaty law, namely the United Nations Convention on Corruption?

If so, how could these witnesses Schiff wants to call have any smoking guns to share about anything nefarious? namely Bolton.

Dave (in MA)

Warren Promises Half Her Cabinet Positions To Women, Nonbinary Individuals
Forbes
1 day ago
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Let's hear if for hexadecimal people in the cabinet.

Robin, Tiger Beat Pompom Girl REHAB Team

So this is great. I was on invited to attend a business talk about social media and marketing by a local group and the talk is being given by a local business and their most recent Instagram post is recommending the Epoch Times. I almost fell over as this is the Socialist Republic of Ithaca.

jimmyk

KK, I haven't heard much about that treaty business from Trump or Republican pols, only from pundits. Maybe others here can chime in. But if that's the case, I wonder why not? It seems to blow the case out of the water more directly than anything else.

Tom R

Clarice @ 2:13

I wasn't referring to Hunter Biden pleading the 5th in his paternity case. I was referring to him pleading the 5th if called as a witness in Trump's impeachment trial.

henry

Dave, why not cats that identify as persons?

Narciso

It involves too many fmr and future officials at the german foreign ministry in parliament in the osce.

henry

Tom R, if the House can subpoena Trump's taxes... Hunter's banking records are easy peasy... he doesn't have to "say" a thing.

Narciso

Its like the nuclear proliferation treaty, only confy chairs for violations. Privat bank goes full mf global and crickets.

Dave (in MA)

Henry, How about a eunuch for Defense Sec'y?

KevlarKid

Go Dizz go.


while yer attit, hon- do something about the onslaught of these fraudulent adz on tv selling laxatives and sugar laden "yogurt" to all the multitaskers out there who "have it all".

henry

Dave, weaponless? Don't give her ideas.

Buckeye

I was referring to him pleading the 5th if called as a witness in Trump's impeachment trial.

I bet Hunter goes "poof" before testifying in the Senate trial.

KevlarKid

jimmyk, i find the allegations ridiculous but the WH responses porous, letting the impeachment mongers insist there's a fire when there isnt any smoke. of course for what the peach mint mongers are blowin'.

KevlarKid

Hunter is destined for a book deal and a seat on the Netflix board with Gaylord and Big Dick.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

Senator Rand Paul
@RandPaul
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1h
The more we hear from Adam Schiff, the more the GOP is getting unified against this partisan charade!

KevlarKid

snap-on tools only in Mizz Dizzy's cabinet.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President:

Rich Lowry
@RichLowry
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51m
I don’t get how people who didn’t balk at Obama’s refusal to give Ukraine lethal aid can as *as a policy mattter* object to a brief delay in military aid by Trump as a horrendous blow to Ukraine’s defense.

KevlarKid

the only way this would be more glorious is if Schiff experienced a sudden case of boils.

clarice

This nonsense in the Senate is making me crabbier than usual. Am I alone in this?

Neo

Senator Rand Paul
‏Verified account @RandPaul

The more we hear from Adam Schiff, the more the GOP is getting unified against this partisan charade!

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1220044346373877761

Neo

They had just one job .. don't act crazy

henry

Clarice, let's just say I'm happy to have a speed bag and heavy bag in my basement...

Buckeye

This nonsense in the Senate is making me crabbier than usual. Am I alone in this?

Could be worse Clarice.

You could be one on the Senators forced to sit there listen to this, with only water to drink.

henry

Plus Planters marketing killed off Mr Peanut. (were kids allergic to their mascot?)

henry

Buckeye, that aint water... IYKWIM

Narciso

No it makes me resort to cognates in other languages.

JM Hanes

clarice:

Not so much crabbier here as just depressed and out of sorts that the whole impeachment circus could even get this far along.

I did use the links in my liberal cousin's email to send both my Senators a strongly worded opinion. As the cuz suggested, I used my own words. That was pretty much the only political bright spot today.

henry

that virus must be a bad one.

Hu Xijin 胡锡进 @HuXijin_GT
29m

Shutting down outbound transportation of a provincial capital city is unprecedented in China since 1949. Didn't do so even during SARS in 2003. This is a forced step since virus is expanding fiercely. It will greatly increase the chance of epidemic being contained.

Jane

I've got Schiff on, but I'm listening to Rush. How can one idiot talk for 2 hours and say nothing?

KevlarKid

i don't have a good feeling about it, clarice. any of it.

henry

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
14s

“NO PRESSURE”

JM Hanes

I should have mentioned that I'm not actually watching the proceedings. I get so incandescently angry about the whole thing, that I decided just to check around for summaries of the action from time to time.

MissMarple2

Retweeted by the President. Link goes to a video.

.@realDonaldTrump makes a very solid point here. Hillary talking about other people’s like-ability is peak 2020. pic.twitter.com/CL0gm2wrOx

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 22, 2020
Tom R

Not so much crabbier here as just depressed and out of sorts that the whole impeachment circus could even get this far along.

The Democrats may be corrupt and power hungry but they aren't stupid. The impeachment has gotten this far because there has to be something else going on that we don't know about that has caused the Democrats to believe the benefit of engaging in what appears to be a circus to us is worth the cost.

Old Lurker

I'm with Clarice and KK.

Not so much that I fear the immediate outcome (though I do some), rather for how it reveals just how nuts are half the people in the country and more than that in Congress. How do we rebuild a solid country on such shifting sands?

MissMarple2

https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/22/cnn-makes-most-perfect-cnn-hire-in-history/#.XiiXe04lvT0.twitter

" Less than a week after CNN complained that one of its reporters was called a “liberal hack,” CNN hired a liberal hack. "

Threadkiller

The Democrats may be corrupt and power hungry but they aren't stupid.

I remember when they were stupid. That was when Trump was running a Kabuki shell game with Mueller and Comey and Flynn. The Dems has no idea that the tables were being turned on them.

Tom R

TK

I give your trolling a B- for effort.

Threadkiller

...had no idea...

Old Lurker

U Bad, TK.

The Infamous Ignatz

--They had just one job .. don't act crazy.--

So they picked this guy?
Brilliant.

Threadkiller

I give your consistency an “incomplete.”

henry

Ig, they should have let Mad Maxine do it.

MissMarple2

Angel Mom Mary Ann Mendoza
💥
TEXT EMPOWER TO 88022
@mamendoza480
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1h
I thought I could watch the impeachment hearings today but when it started with lying @RepAdamSchiff, I’ve decided to clean the toilets and mop floors. Monarchy BS was the final straw. Schiff reaks of desperation and hate.

Old Lurker

Iggy, if I could do pictures I would post a side by side of your 3:09 with that dog which got adopted yesterday even though he had wild and crazy eyes.

Scroll down to the second picture:

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/dog-wonky-face-adopted

John S

Tom R, what about the idea that the Democrats are playing this to help win back the Senate?

Jack is Back!

Does it portend anything devious that Wheres? Hunter's issues are in a state known for unannounced deaths under suspicious circumstances?

If I am Hunter I would gladly testify in DC than in Little Rock:)

Tom R

John S @ 3:14

Who is promoting that speculation for their motives?

hrtshpdbox

The Democrats may be corrupt and power hungry but they aren't stupid.

They are stupid. They've tried and failed at one ridiculous attempt after another to take down this president - it's all they've got, they're too stupid to stop. I'm sure there's lots going on that we don't know, and that most of it makes Trump's situation look even better.

Trump was amazing at his presser this morning, patiently explaining how it's important for him to expose and eliminate people in government like Comey, and to hold the press accountable for lying to the public. I have no fears at all about this silly exercise in DC; I'm just PO'd that Fox insists on playing every second of it.

Jane

If Schiff ever finishes, they should immediately take a vote.

KevlarKid

Schiff embodies the worst imaginable version of "representative government."

anonamom

How can Schiff talk this long?
I get kind of hoarse after a long cocktail/dinner party.

I LOVE how the Ds have come to embrace our Founders.

Extraneus

How do we rebuild a solid country on such shifting sands?

By delivering them such an epic thrashing in November that they have no choice but to turn on the nuts who were responsible.

The Infamous Ignatz

--The Democrats may be corrupt and power hungry but they aren't stupid. The impeachment has gotten this far because there has to be something else going on that we don't know about that has caused the Democrats to believe the benefit of engaging in what appears to be a circus to us is worth the cost.--

I believe that is a fundamental misreading of the situation because you're not thinking as our enemies do.
Many ideologues are very intelligent, but they are betrayed by their irrationality.
They usually don't make sound cost/benefit analyses as you describe. Ideologues insist the world conforms to their world view.
The impeachment has gotten this far because they are not only right but sanctified. And Trump and his supporters are unrighteous and evil. He will be struck down because good triumphs over evil and they are making a world in which evil cannot stand against their righteousness.
There is a level of cynicism and self awareness as with most nutters, but when push comes to shove their manufactured fantasia always prevails in the green, clean, sustainable and renewable megawatt windmills of their minds.

anonamom

clarice, jane--who writes this? Staff up all night?
I guess they had time to do this over the past thirty three days.

henry

Schiff has at least nine and a half hours to go if the 24 hours is split equally.

Neo

Schiff present yet another unsubstantiated conspiracy theory

KevlarKid

"He will be struck down because good triumphs over evil and they are making a world in which evil cannot stand against their righteousness."

All they need is to find their Brutus.

Old Lurker

Ig "Ideologues insist the world conforms to their world view."

That sentence works both with the s on conform and without it.

anonamom

henry, they aren't REQUIRED to use 24 hours. And if they want to not have the Senators (and all Americans) look upon them with total hate, they'll not take it all.
Even Chris Wallace says it's all done already.
Wrap it up!

KevlarKid

eery, OL.

The Infamous Ignatz

It was supposed to be without the s but you're correct it works either way, OL.

KevlarKid

what is the "it", Chris?

clarice

I'm ready to reopen my pitchfork and flaming brands kiosk

jimmyk

that dog which got adopted yesterday even though he had wild and crazy eyes.

So maybe Schiff was attacked by his mother like that dog? It would be understandable.

How can Schiff talk this long?
I get kind of hoarse after a long cocktail/dinner party.

And of course we know that it's a grave sin (ask Marco Rubio) to have a sip of water during a speech.

jimmyk

That sentence works both with the s on conform and without it.

So we're back on the subjunctive? Or was it the pluperfect? I can't remember.

Jack is Back!

I remember from Brother Adrian, my debate coach in HS, that if your opponent has a weak premise and argument it is always best to go last.

Guess who goes last, as if it matters.

Tom R

I believe that is a fundamental misreading of the situation because you're not thinking as our enemies do

Iggy @ 3:26

Funny that you accuse me of that.

I think most Trump supporters are trying to figure out why the Democrats are acting like they are based on a rational application of their own value system as patriotic Americans. Trump supporters see what the Democrats are doing and can't conceive of how this could be helping them win the hearts and minds of American voters at the ballot box. From that perspective I agree with Heart Shaped Box that the Democrats appear to be stupid.

I am actually trying to look at this situation from the Progtard perspective which means I can't use my own value system as a patriotic American. IMO they are evil and corrupt. I have no doubt many of them have more allegiance to their fellow ChiComm totalitarians than to the Constitution. AFAIK the Democrats could be doing this with the primary intent of motivating the hardcore Commie ANTIFA types to commit violence. There are other possible explanations as well.

The point is what appears to be a circus and a waste of time to us is not necessarily the case for them because they have some other ulterior motive in mind besides winning the election.

anonamom

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/debunking-trumps-impeachment-with-one-simple-thought-experiment/

Let's pretend that Joe Biden had a different name. No, better: Let's pretend that Joe Biden had a different letter after his name. Let's pretend he's Joe Biden (R), former vice president under George W. Bush.

In that case, what would the Democrats be doing differently? Literally everything.

Instead of impeaching Trump, they'd be praising him (although perhaps reluctantly) for his non-partisan willingness to look into Republican malfeasance. Adam Schiff would hold months worth of hearings, looking back into the Bush administration in ways he'd never dare look back into Obama's. The Democrat-controlled press would be 24/7 "Biden! Biden! Biden!" Jerry Nadler would have to go back to, I dunno, eating mayonnaise with an ice cream scoop.

GUS

It's all 4-D. Have faith. Right???

Melinda

Khamnei's sick? How timely for a quiet exit!

Heshmat Alavi
@HeshmatAlavi
IMPORTANT

THREAD

1)
First signs of #Iran's dictator Ali @khamenei_ir being very ill.

The man with the briefcase is Dr. Baghi, Khamenei's personal physician. He is sitting between Khamenei's two sons, Mojtaba (R) & Mostafa (L).

Interesting to see this image published.

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1220082326681653248

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