Now Its Barr v. Trump. Unless Its Not

AG Barr blasts Trump's tweets directed at DoJ generally and on the Roger Stone case specifically. The reported White House reaction is even-keeled:

About two hours after the interview aired, the White House issued a statement.

“The President wasn’t bothered by the comments at all and he has the right, just like any American citizen, to publicly offer his opinions. President Trump uses social media very effectively to fight for the American people against injustices in our country, including the fake news. The President has full faith and confidence in Attorney General Barr to do his job and uphold the law,” White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said.

Well, so far so good. Let's see what the 3 AM tweetstorm brings.

Andrew McCarthy explains the sentencing fiasco.

And set aside the details - thematically, Democrats howling about the sanctity of an independent Department of Justice fall on deaf Republican ears. That independence was quite threadbare when Obama and Lynch whitewashed the Hillary email "investigation". The only good thing you can say about it is they pretended to be discreet, mostly. OK, a couple of inappropriate Obama interviews, that ridiculous tarmac meeting between Lynch and Bill Clinton - just oopsies. And oh, yeah, how did people read the Horowitz report on the FBI/DoJ FISA process with Carter Page and come away assured of the absence of political motivation? Please. The official conclusion of no political motivation is hard to take seriously.

And now we have, from an irate Republican perspective, a bunch of DC establishment "Get Trump BAMN" attorneys showboating with a max sentence for Roger Stone, quite possibly hoping to precipitate this sort of "outrage". And it has been Mission Accomplished. Obama misbehaved, now Trump misbehaves, and away we go.

Angry, divided and confused - this is how Trump wins.

Comments

[Theo]

Am I here all alone?

[Thomas Collins]

Stone did get the shaft by getting caught up in Mueller's out of control investigation (I won't call it a witch hunt, because that would be unfair to witch hunters). However, texting threats, even if not taken seriously by the one being threatened, qualifies Stone as being the Antonio Brown of the political scene.

[Narciso]

When will mccarthy 'accept enemy action' as motivation.

[Theo]

It appears to me that Stone is a nut job who did not actually commit any crimes until he engaged in a coverup of legal activity. He was amazingly stupid to have left a clear written record of that coverup including the ludicrous text message threats that constitutes witness tampering.

Mueller was looking for scalps more than true justice. Stone was and us basically a harmless goof ball. On the other hand, he is guilty of the crimes for which he was charged.

It remains mysterious what exactly the input of DOJ was into the sentencing memorandum. It appears that senior DOJ people told the prosecutors that nine years was too harsh but did not exactly order the memo to be revised. It could be some kind of failure to communicate.

[Narciso]

Wait data not available?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221462961930876X?via%3Dihub

[Narciso]

Its not science its more alcheny and hisruptcy and divining.

[Narciso]

A brit architect? And a german sociologists.

[Soylent Red]

Mueller was looking for scalps more than true justice. Stone was and us basically a harmless goof ball. On the other hand, he is guilty of the crimes for which he was charged.

Just had this convo with my wife...

Imagine if Stone had been a Democrat, or any other favored denizen of the political petri dish. Would the recommended sentence have been more or less in that case? Would the jury have been stacked with people out to get him?

Stone is guilty, probably. But he is being treated the way he is because of his political affiliation, not the facts of his guilt. He should get something like 18-24 months, tops, with a lot of that suspended, folding sheets in some minimum security country club.

Dear wife just informed that she would not be voting for Trump. I told her I would never, while I have all my faculties, vote for a Democrat of any stripe. So I guess we cancel each other out.

[Soylent Red]

Mueller was looking for scalps more than true justice. Stone was and us basically a harmless goof ball. On the other hand, he is guilty of the crimes for which he was charged.

Just had this convo with my wife...

Imagine if Stone had been a Democrat, or any other favored denizen of the political petri dish. Would the recommended sentence have been more or less in that case? Would the jury have been stacked with people out to get him?

Stone is guilty, probably. But he is being treated the way he is because of his political affiliation, not the facts of his guilt. He should get something like 18-24 months, tops, with a lot of that suspended, folding sheets in some minimum security country club.

Dear wife just informed that she would not be voting for Trump. I told her I would never, while I have all my faculties, vote for a Democrat of any stripe. So I guess we cancel each other out.

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

Read this thread I posted at 8:42 and tell me what you think:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228121803316453381.html

[Narciso]

Yes stupidity is not criminal or else half of pundit row would be in jail, how is stately soylent manner.

[Narciso]

I used the word fobbit for major howdy because as i civilian i shouldnt use the other term.

[lyle]

From last thread:

Is there a crossed-finger emoji?

Ask and ye shall receive: 🖕

Whoops! Sorry: 🤞

[Narciso]

When does it go from ignorance to malice

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1228088005119873025

Is he awriter on picard?

[jimmyk]

From the last thread:
I don't think it unusual for people not to have a solid fixed sexual identity until they are in their early 20's. It's a phenomenon well known in girls' colleges where many are "lesbians until graduation".

I would agree with that statement if you replaced "people" with "young women." I doubt it's true for young men. And not unusual doesn't mean common, either.

[Porchlight]

My parents have been canceling out each other's votes for over 50 years, Soylent. With one exception that I know of. It happens. But people change their minds too. Mr Porch voted Obama 2008, Johnson 2012, Trump 2016.

[MissMarple2]

Valentines for us from a New Zealand Trump fan!

[lyle]

Since I haven’t obnoxiously chimed in on my dinner creations lately, tonight is stuffed pork tenderloin (prosciutto, shallots, mushrooms, spinach, garlic, Parmesan, and panko crumbs) with roasted red pepper sauce over spaghetti squash. Arcanum Tuscan IGT.

Valentines dinner, one day removed, will be braised lamb shanks and a ‘03 Solaia on Saturday.

Cheers!

[Another Bob]

No Tom, I refuse to engage your cherrypicked arguments, based on cherrypicked interpretations of cherrypicked “dots”.

It’s also telling that you presume my intent is to inflict some “sting” on you.

[Porchlight]

Obama misbehaved, now Trump misbehaves, and away we go.

Every time Trump pushes back in any way, it's labeled as misbehaving or worse. Why is that?

[Soylent Red]

Narciso:

Stately Soylent Manor is terrif. Cleared all of last year's storm damage, converted most into logs that will subsequently be converted to firewood. The rest will be converted to chips to improve my one existing, and one soon to be cut, forest paths.

Did some major drainage work last fall, so now I am looking for landscapers to come unfcuk everything, and studying gardening books to figure out what to plant. Wife's side garden is going to have to wait until the front of the house doesn't look like a construction site.

Shop is coming along. Tomorrow will be for building a spiffy new miter saw table, on which to place my spiffy new miter saw.

When I get all of my projects done, I will retire, grow my beard out, make furniture, throw my computer off the mountain, and never look at another newspaper again.

It will be glorious.

[Porchlight]

Agree, jimmyk.

[Soylent Red]

Narciso:

Stately Soylent Manor is terrif. Cleared all of last year's storm damage, converted most into logs that will subsequently be converted to firewood. The rest will be converted to chips to improve my one existing, and one soon to be cut, forest paths.

Did some major drainage work last fall, so now I am looking for landscapers to come unfcuk everything, and studying gardening books to figure out what to plant. Wife's side garden is going to have to wait until the front of the house doesn't look like a construction site.

Shop is coming along. Tomorrow will be for building a spiffy new miter saw table, on which to place my spiffy new miter saw.

When I get all of my projects done, I will retire, grow my beard out, make furniture, throw my computer off the mountain, and never look at another newspaper again.

It will be glorious.

[Narciso]

Great

https://scholar.google.se/citations?user=Si1FHcUAAAAJ&hl=en

[Soylent Red]

Hmmm. Double posting.

Damned n00bs.

[Porchlight]

Sounds awesome, Soylent. It's good to see you.

[Narciso]

I though architecture was about quantifiable things

[jimmyk]

Yes, good to see Soylent here. I had the privilege of meeting him probably eight years ago in DC, along with Clarice, Mr Clarice, and Janet. (I have a feeling I'm leaving someone out, so if I am, I hope no offense is taken, it's hard to keep all the meetups straight.) Anyway, hope you stick around.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

So Peggy N's heart is all aflutter with Bloomberg now as well. After all, it is St. Valentine's Day. It must have been a helluva party they all went to last night. Each of them went home with their own personal box of chocolate covered talking points.

The pivot from Biden is even worse than the Nordschleife at Nurburgring. Speaking of which I can see a lot of these pseuds crashing and burning like Porsches driven by fat short men lacking in physical gifts, to paraphrase an old girlfriend.

Nominating Bloomberg may be their only choice at getting even close, but replaying his comments over the years is going to make Trump look like Jesse Jackson.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-01/zero-hedge-permanently-suspended-from-twitter-for-harassment
===========================
I have no idea what caused this as I am past my free article limit. All I know is they published something about a Chinese scientist.

[Narciso]

He seems to have a soread of tupolev torpedoes doesnt he?

[Narciso]

They got no game at the beginning of the first quarter,

[clarice]

Well, Soylent, if your kitchen undergoes some work, you and mrs Soylent are always welcome for diner. Miss you.

[Dave (in MA)]

More Stone crap from The Nat Rev Boys.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/roger-stone-deserves-severe-punishment/?taid=5e44d19f81f8080001529218&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[Tom R]

AB @ 9:12

Your 8:33 in the previous was obviously criticizing my opinion. I have two choices. I can accept the criticism constructively or reject it. The fact you, JMH and so far pretty much everyone else refuses to answer the simple question about Rosenstein forces me to reject your criticism.

It’s also not a cherrypicked argument. Here is the link to the ceremony. How does a reasonable, open-minded, patriotic Trump supporter interpret this event? Don’t you think when trying to connect the dots to figure out what is going on with Spygate that knowing the allegiance of one of the major players is kinda important? You get it right it opens up other possible explanations. You get it wrong and everything else you think to be true is probably wrong.

https://youtu.be/vvZVau5uhXE

[Buford Gooch]

As long as we're posting culinary masterpieces, I had a two slice bologna sandwich on white bread with yellow mustard, and some BBQ potato chips, artfully arranged on the plate, with a 2019 Stag Beer.
Tomorrow, for Valentine's Day, Mrs. G and I will be having a Monster Meat gas station pizza, and Bud Light Lime. ;)

[Tom R]

MM @ 9:34

ZH linked to someone who claimed the Wuhan Coronavirus was a manufactured bioweapon.

[MissMarple2]

Dave,

Had I known it was Kevin Williamson, I wouldn't have bothered to click over. It's his usual diatribe on anyone who doesn't march in lock step with the Never Trump gang. So to heck with him.

[Theo]

Buford —

Yum!

[Porchlight]

Mmmm, bologna sandwiches.

[MissMarple2]

Tom R,

Thanks! I hate not knowing what those pay sites say, but I am NOT giving Bloomberg any money, so your info is much appreciated!

[Threadkiller]

How does a reasonable, open-minded, patriotic Trump supporter interpret this event?

Who here, in your evaluation, fits that description?

After you have that list of names ask yourself why they don’t respond to you. Then ask yourself why you are fixated on the people here you don’t fit that description.

[Threadkiller]

How does a reasonable, open-minded, patriotic Trump supporter interpret Trump calling Comey a sleezebag?

[Catsmeat]

When I was 14 or 15, loved Katherine by Anya Seton, but never thought it was a true history! Some bits are right, sure--the mob did burn down the Savoy, John of Gaunt's palace in London, for instance, but a lot is very romantic conjecture. But then it is a historical romance!

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

President Trump to be Daytona 500 grand marshal, tell drivers to start engines

[Narciso]

I noted last night the mongolian marmot plague (im not making this up) that was precursor to the chinese revolution.

[MissMarple2]

Stephanie,

Is that this weekend?

Heh. My democrat sister is down in the area. She will probably blame the traffic on him.

[MissMarple2]

John Basham
⭐️⭐️⭐
@JohnBasham
·
1h
BREAKING: @OANN
is reporting they have been told the @WhiteHouse
has I.D.'d a group of at least 3 leakers from 2017-18 who are current @WhiteHouse
Military Office aides.
They reportedly will be fired as early as this weekend.
Author "Anonymous" likely in this group!

[Catsmeat]

May OANN know what they are talking about, MM!

[Buford Gooch]

They need to be prosecuted, not just fired, or transferred to another department.

[Narciso]

The early speculation it was mattis speechwriter. Guy something or other

[Narciso]

Youve seem that ridiculous novel which is one thousand page sentence.

[Tom R]

TK @ 9:53

Who here, in your evaluation, fits that description?
Hopefully a lot of people

After you have that list of names ask yourself why they don’t respond to you.

I don’t know you tell me.

Then ask yourself why you are fixated on the people here you don’t fit that description.

Why would I be fixated over the posters who don’t fit that description? If someone is unreasonable and closed minded, what can they possibly contribute to the discussion?

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Yes this weekend MM.

[clarice]

Don't expect the Dems to stop initiating silly investigations and impeachment threats. They are in a bind. They cannot legislate or draft a budget without losing a sizable tranche of their wacky base, a base falloff conflicting interests.

[Narciso]

You talk about official investigations pearl harbor, pfeiffer report (playa giron) pentagon papers need we go on.

[lyle]

I bow to you, BF.

[Tom R]

TK @ 9:55

Thats’s a great question. In the dot connecting logic pathway, that question has to come after the question “Does Trump engage in deception/kabuki?”

If the answer is Yes then who knows what Trump really thinks about Comey (who was likely the person who told him the White House was bugged). If the answer is No, then the answer is Trump truly thinks Comey is a sleazebag.

One thing being a software engineer helps out with is understanding how“if/then/else” logic works.

[Threadkiller]

I don’t know you tell me

That is depressing. Please cheer up Tom.

[Catsmeat]

"A clean, well-lighted place," that's what comes to mind.

[Threadkiller]

One thing being a software engineer helps out with is understanding how“if/then/else” logic works.

I would think that skill set would help you start with the actual question and stay focused on it.

[Narciso]

I pointed out how comey was steering the 9/11 review committee as recently as 2017,through restricting the info flow

[clarice]

s/b a base full of conflicting interests.

[Theo]

Don’t worry Clarice — we are all fluent in typo.

[Threadkiller]

What percentage, in your opinion, of reasonable, open-minded, patriotic Trump supporters think Comey is a black hat?

[Another Bob]

“One thing being a software engineer helps out with is understanding how“if/then/else” logic works.”

LOLOL

[Tom R]

TK @ 10:21

I don’t know what you and Gus do for a living but I hope it’s not psychoanalysis because you keep both keep whiffing on diagnosing my mental health.

[Tom R]

TK @ 10:23

I answered your question. Your response indicates you didn’t understand the answer.

[sbwaters]

Methinks BF is BG subjected to either alphabetic deflation or alcohol-induced digit misplacement.

[MissMarple2]

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
·
11m
AWESOME photo of Great American Patriots from @TeamTrump
with President @realDonaldTrump! #KAG2020
🇺🇸

“THE BEST IS YET TO COME!”
President Donald J. Trump

Thank you for the visit and inspirational talk today, Mr. President!

We won’t let you down in November! 🇺🇸#FourMoreYears #TeamTrump pic.twitter.com/EfXPPYCURo

— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) February 13, 2020

Photo at the link.

[Narciso]

why is it alway goldmans

[Threadkiller]

Good point, Tom. You should stick with the experts on your mental health.

These last few comments make it crystal clear that you don’t know who her enjoys your theories, agrees with your theories, or is even the slightest bit intrigued by your theories.

The attention you seek comes from those who shatter those theories.

Good luck, Tom.

[Narciso]

they never learn

[Tom R]

What percentage, in your opinion, of reasonable, open-minded, patriotic Trump supporters think Comey is a black hat?

FYI I used those four criteria for a reason. The answer to your question is “TBD”. Once again, the question that has to be answered first is knowing whether or not Trump engages in deception/kabuki. IMO an open minded reasonable person admits to the possibility Trump does indeed resort to deception/kabuki. If Trump engages in deception/kabuki then you have to admit Comey may be doing it as well. That’s why I always stipulate I am speculating. IMO no one who is reasonable and open minded can declare with certainty they know the answer to that question.

[Theo]

s waters —

“alphabetic deflation.” Heh.

[Narciso]

fancy sone defoe

[Tom R]

The attention you seek comes from those who shatter those theories.

TK @ 10:39

Anyone who is unreasonable and close minded is never going to accept the plausibility of my theories so IDGAF what they think.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/13/chiefs-bashaud-breeland-looking-forward-visit-wh-super-bowl/

[Narciso]

as useless as his old man

[Another Bob]

There you have it.

Anyone who disagrees with Tom is unreasonable and close minded and he is disregarding them for that reason.

[Melinda]

TK-

If it’s any solace, I’m having a chitload of fun watching the current “Laser Pointer with kittens in DC”.

[Narciso]

I figured out the magic words walla walla washington

Dc is like game of thrones or dune maybe its always been this way.

[MissMarple2]

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
·
31m
#MiniMike gonna be blowing through a couple of $Billion and be remembered for this...

😂🤣 pic.twitter.com/elKd3RcGD5

— ⚖️ The Justice Team ⚖️Text Trump 88022 (@LawDog323) February 14, 2020

Link goes to a picture, which you MUST click on! HAHAHA!

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

I told my friend Jan today that it was like "Dallas" on steroids.

[MissMarple2]

HA! Matt Whitaker says what we said here: it looked like an attempted set up! Video at the link (on Laura Ingraham's program):

.@MattWhitaker46 Barr is the right person at the right time. pic.twitter.com/zXuY3uwgtY

— Josh Cremeans “DirtyTruth” (@AKA_RealDirty) February 14, 2020

[Narciso]

And cyrus mismanaged the vietnam war and flounced over desert one, so thats a tall order.

[Buford Gooch]

Lyle, I was just messin' wit' ya. I actually made BBQ pork chops and pork steaks in an instant pot (for 7 people), and reduces the stock to a BBQ gravy, over mashed potatoes. Old family tradition (regular pressure cooker back when).

[Another Bob]

Speaking of billionaires, did Steyer drop out or not?

[Narciso]

Its a schrodingers cat situation.

[MissMarple2]

As Stephanie told us:

The White House
@WhiteHouse

President @realDonaldTrump
will attend the @NASCAR
Daytona 500 on Sunday!
🏎️
🏁

[Another Bob]

USSS announced a 30 mile “no drone zone” around Daytona three days ago.

Wonder if that’s going to screw up Fox’s coverage any?

[MissMarple2]

https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/aoc-admits-bernie-sanders-may-have-to-scrap-medicare-for-all-plan/

[Narciso]

Thats circumference or diameter of the circle?

[MissMarple2]

WATCH: President @realDonaldTrump “When All Is Said And Done, My Greatest Accomplishment As President Will Have Been To Expose The Corruption." pic.twitter.com/Aj0lE7WSMM

— Israel & USA forever (@IsraelUSAforevr) February 13, 2020

Video at the link.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/hope-hicks-returning-to-white-house-to-work-closely-with-kushner-official-says_3237195.html

[DrJ]

If KK's statement of "I had a great afternoon!" was a bit incomplete, allow me to fill it out.

He, CH, Iggy and I met for lunch in Berkeley in a restaurant that hovers over the San Francisco Bay. We were seated at the windows, so the view was great.

Sadly we had low clouds and no sun, but the views were fine -- all three bridges were visible, as were San Francisco, Angel Island and the Marin headlands. Later in the day the clouds lifted a bit and we got a good view of Mt. Tamalpais (Marin County).

We all had a great time. I sure did, and the 3.5 hours went by very quickly. Generally it was upbeat, and no ears here should be burning. We didn't solve all the problems of the world, but there always is next year.

[Another Bob]

Radius from a point roughly 8 miles south of Ormond Beach.

Just looked again and it’s been upgraded to the full presidential TSR.

This is the fun part: “ UAS OPERATORS WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C. SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C. SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FACILITIES, OR ASSETS.”

[Another Bob]

TFR

[MissMarple2]

.@RudyGiuliani: “It’s clear documentary proof that Madame Yovanovich committed what we call perjury.” pic.twitter.com/WegvMX5z3M

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) February 14, 2020

Video at link (Guiliani on Trish Regan's show).

[MissMarple2]

Lots of stuff happening, but I MUST go to bed!

Good night everyone!