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February 09, 2020

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D

TomR and Theo are both wrong as usual.
TomR:
Your attempt to create distraction and turmoil has failed.

Captain Hate

From that 6:59

Jennifer Rubin, a dusty mummy that was once left in the Washington Post’s offices and came to life. In “Not all Republicans have lost their souls,” Rubin tells us about how Longwell bravely quit the board of the Log Cabin Republicans after the group endorsed Trump. (That article also mentions Jennifer Horn! Wow, that’s a weird coincidence. It’s almost like there’s only about four of these dead-end losers, total, and they just sit around waiting for the phone to ring so they can give a journalist a quote about how confused they are at whatever’s happened today). Rubin also wrote of Longwell’s brave defense of Robert Mueller, the muscular supercop whose verbal fluency has diminished even more rapidly than Joe Biden’s.

Best political age ever.

jimb

"I should rethink my handle." All that work on rethinking; I didn't mean to make my fault into your problem …

Extraneus

Former Dem lawmaker booted from Muslim event after asking Rashida Tlaib: 'What about your anti-Semitism?'

The pro-Israel advocate was escorted out by police

Extraneus

Dov Hikind, btw.

MissMarple2

I guess this isn't on any channels. I will post the link when the video is available.

It's great!

Captain Hate

Back with a vengeance

https://mobile.twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/status/1226652757219774468

D

MM:
OAN channel has the Trump rally.
For Directv it is channel 347.

anonamom

The whats Up link someone posted earlier on corona virus states that alcohol sanitizers are ineffective for corona and influenza viruses.

Extraneus

I read a piece on that a few days ago, amom.

hrtshpdbox

Trump live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyA2mnzLCBY


I'm pleased that I don't hear that incipient cold of his tonight.

MissMarple2

Also there tonight: Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Keven McCarthy, Steve Scalise, Matt & Mercedes Schlapp, Corey Lewandowski, Dave Bosse, (Couldn't get all of the names)

MissMarple2

Marytose,

Thanks for the OAN channel information.

anonamom

POTUS has a lot of people with him tonight. Lindsay Graham and Rand Paul; Matt Gaetz, Mark Meadows, Steve Scalise, Ronna McDaniel.

They are all getting huge applause.

We aren't the only people who follow politics.

MissMarple2

Also, Jared and Ivanka, Kimberly, Don Jr., lots of NH legislators, Rona McDaniel, boy, he has LOTS of names there!

Calls a lot of them "warriors".

MissMarple2

I KNEW IT! He is going after windmills, which he hates!

Captain Hate

TargetTori FTW

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealTargetTori/status/1226654937557405702

MissMarple2

He's reading "The Snake."

KevlarKid

"The legalization of marijuana was not “thrust” upon anyone. The people voted for it. That is how democracy works. It is not the product of some evil prog cabal."

late to the party on this issue of culture, laws, and control.

none of it occurs in a vacuum assigned as "the will of the people" any more than consumers decide to buy the latest thingamajig at WalMart without mass EXPOSURE to it and the requisite conditioning to buy it.

out-of-wedlock birth rates soared in spite of legalized abortion and access to birth control.

those two legislated influences werent all voted into law by the people en masse by ballot initiative. women and men were no longer constraint sexually by the risk of preg and the shotgun wedding. more unconstrained sexual behavior at earler ages without compulsion to marry...poof! the out of wedlock birth rate is going up by about a million a year.

the top down-bottom up work in unison and is driven by political messaging, medical systems filled with voters who operate based on social policies AND their political beliefs as underwritten by party politicians who appropriate funds that help to underwrite pharmaceutical inputs to culture.

if there's supply, there will be consumers to consume it, whether they voted for it or not.

where the cabal comes into play is in its insidious public faces, such as the last two mayors of Oakland and the vile Barbara Lee. they push the pointless weed business as a source of tax revenue, along with lotto and "card rooms"---- and call it culture!while destroying COMMERCE (real people producing goods and services) the fundamental means of economic survival...a cornerstone of culture.

also, culture is not a monolithic element of national survival in the States. there are at least 7 systemic elements of which none are solely top down, or grass roots only, or strictly voter-driven, or cabal engineered.

Jack is Back!

CH,

IsTarget Tony an AOS regular?

rich

good grief folks i have my dinner in one hand and am drinking beer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancur_Olson

the logic of collective action.

The Infamous Ignatz

Ozzie and Harriet are from an inferior culture than Will and Grace?
Who are you people and what did you do with the real JOM?

MissMarple2

Not as far as I am concerned, Ignatz.

I was gone all afternoon and didn't get in much on the discussion.

Ozzie and Harriet MUCH better than Will and Grace.

D

Rich:
How is your project at work going?
One of your posts last night really made me laugh.

Captain Hate

IsTarget Tony an AOS regular?

I don't think so, just a random manager at Target.

D

I grew up during Ozzie and Harriet and it was a calmer, more normal time.
No computer games.
We were outside playing and having fun every night after dinner.
Early spring was the best time.
School was almost over and it stayed light outside until almost 9:00.
We used to play 4 corners and run races and climb trees.
Good times!

Pinandpuller

If you don’t want to contemplate “Credentialism” viz Obama, Pete and dare I say even MPDJT, definitely don’t read this article:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/ferdinand-waldo-demara-the-great-imposter-con-artist-fraud-a9080991.html

Porchlight

Snek!

This NH crowd is LIT.

Porchlight

Trump ringing all the bells with these NH folks.

Porchlight

Late spring in the Midwest is truly glorious, maryrose.

Another Bob

Seems a quickie tonight.

Bela1

Great rally tonight! Wish I went!

rich

theo and iggy etal have been going back and forth ... it's been interminable.

you can even borrow the book.

https://archive.org/details/logicofcollectiv00olso_0

yeah!!!

Porchlight

The rallies are getting a little shorter - but punchier.

Porchlight

Bela1, are you in the area?

Dave (in MA)
good grief folks i have my dinner in one hand and am drinking beer
And typing with the other hand?
KevlarKid

Bullshit:

"My point remains. To the extent that the progs have had success in the culture wars, it is because they have won over people. It is not due to any control or coercion. Those who would like to see a return to more traditional family values merely have to persuade people that such values should be once again normalized.

Theo: Recount for we Californians who had our votes overturned by a judge re "homosexual marriage", how this is not judicial tyranny (control) and coercion ( thought crime laws).

Show your work.

If you think family values were not a matter of coercion and control either, i'll say this--- shotgun marriages werent voluntary unions of man and woman, etc.

With coercion being such a blunt force instrument for local, county, state and federal control it's almost impossible to discuss liberty without accounting for the brain death ( legal tetrahydracannabinol for unformed brains) that is supposedly the will of the American people, which has so many of them believing they ARE actually thinking their own thoughts AND reasoning.

rich

thanks maryrose.

the project, since i am here at this time and not in the salt mine, ... i'll just leave it there.

the other issue was finally resolved sort of but still waiting to hear back from others.

so ...

BEER!!!

BEER!!!

BEER!!!

MissMarple2

RSBN says they anticipate doing 150 this campaign season.

rich

i have three hands dave.

and dangerous.

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1227036017296756736

Another Osweda thread. He must have been fired up tonight with the rally and all.

Dave (in MA)

I was thinking the beer & the dinner were one and the same.

Another Bob

“Recount for we Californians who had our votes overturned by a judge”

Yep. One in a long list.

Most of what are now considered “rights” were made so by various black-robed tyrants who were in the pockets of some interest group.

Dave (in MA)

DOJ requested 7-9 years for Roger Stone.
He has an Obama judge. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prosecutors-roger-stone-prison-sentence

Jack is Back!

Is Theo our new Anduril?

Asking for a friend named Ben.

MissMarple2

I don't know but I am about ready to put Theo on Killfile, Jack.

Jane

Is the rally on TV?

Dave (in MA)

There have been some claims that dog-faced pony soldier came from the John Wayne movie "Hondo", from 1953. Back in the early days of the Howie Carr show, he used to give Hondo videos away for calls that he liked.

henry

Rally is done now, Jane

Dave (in MA)

Rally replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLjUH5b8Ivc
(all 6 hours of coverage)

Dave (in MA)

Well, the thumbnail was showing >6hrs. It's more like 4.

MissMarple2

Thanks, Dave!

Porchlight

I donate $10/month to RSBN. They are a bit amateurish and not as necessary as they were in 2016 when they were the only outfit broadcasting every rally on the web. But they deserve it. I think they put Trump over the top.

MissMarple2

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-announces-new-sanctuary-policies

Barr is escalating efforts against sanctuary cities.

Link includes video plus a pretty detailed article.

Jack is Back!

Off to bed but will monitor behavior, so be nice.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

BREAKING: Judge Cancels General Flynn's Sentencing

MissMarple2

President Trump on the State of The Union: “I had somebody behind me who was mumbling terribly.. very distracting”

Crowd chants “lock her up!”pic.twitter.com/WbjcdsWuNa

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 11, 2020

Video at the link. Ha!

clarice

I think part of the shift re unmarried parents and more divorces is economic. More women work, there's welfare available, and incomes are higher. In earlier years single women (even widows with children) had a harder time of it and most families couldn't manage to support 2 households on one income. Not saying it's the only difference, but in more prosperous times there are different options. Not saying it's the best thing either. Just that it is a big factor which cannot be denied.
I think historically cultures tend to go through Dionysian behaviors when the living is easy.

MissMarple2

🚨HAPPENING NOW—

Absolutely incredible! President @realDonaldTrump’s MASSIVE #TrumpRallyNH is underway in Manchester, New Hampshire!!#KeepAmericaGreat🇺🇸🇺🇸#TrumpPence2020🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/qHUUCOqsfi

— Dan Scavino (@DanScavino) February 11, 2020

Video at the link with the President's entrance and a great panorama of the crowd in the arena.

rich

>>>I was thinking the beer & the dinner were one and the same.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 10, 2020 at 08:13 PM<<<

ouch. i sound that way?

i haven't had a good kjom and drunkblogging in months ...


jimmyk

How much more can they dial the outrage up?

I think their concern is that the party is so divided that whoever the nominee is, a bunch of Ds will stay home. So I guess the theory is that if a SCOTUS nominee hangs in the balance, that will bring out those who would otherwise stay home because their candidate didn't get nominated. Even that presumes the nomination is delayed until 2021.

I will predict this: If Amy Coney Barrett is the nominee, the Dems will find someone willing to claim that they heard her use the N-word.

Captain Hate

rich,

I've already been to Sante Adairius Rustic Ales twice and counting!

KevlarKid

i thought this was funny:

"Sean Illing: So your complaint is basically that the party has tacked too far to the left?

James Carville: They’ve tacked off the damn radar screen. And look, I don’t consider myself a moderate or a centrist. I’m a liberal. But not everything has to be on the left-right continuum. . .

Here’s another stupid thing: Democrats talking about free college tuition or debt forgiveness. I’m not here to debate the idea. What I can tell you is that people all over this country worked their way through school, sent their kids to school, paid off student loans. They don’t want to hear this shit. And you saw Warren confronted by an angry voter over this. It’s just not a winning message."

Threadkiller

BREAKING: Judge Cancels General Flynn's Sentencing

The government probably needed more time to perfect their lies.

Dave (in MA)

Of course not, rich. j/k

MissMarple2

Record low unemployment, job numbers through the roof, terrorists being eliminated and new trade deals being signed—and THIS is what gets shouted at the President from the press https://t.co/75kvN1cuKK

— Mark Meadows (@RepMarkMeadows) February 11, 2020

Link goes to a tweet and a video from a Playboy reporter and CNN political analyst.

rich

Posted by: Captain Hate | February 10, 2020 at 08:38 PM

you devil.

Dave (in MA)

What was the context of Trump reading The Snake story?

Rocco

Democrat tax and spend policies forced women into the work force.

And I have no idea if that's true but it's my story and I'm sticking to it!

MissMarple2

TOUGH GUYS FOR TRUMP! pic.twitter.com/DbjZjGzLWU

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 11, 2020

Video at the link. Be sure you watch to the end.

Narciso

The first move was engel v vitale that took the bible out of the public square.

Jack is Back!

Never been part of a cult before. When do I get my share of the Jell-O shots?

MissMarple2

Dave,

He was talking about building the wall and why it was necessary, and how the democrats wanted open borders.

James D.

I will predict this: If Amy Coney Barrett is the nominee, the Dems will find someone willing to claim that they heard her use the N-word.

And when they do, whoever they find needs to be sued into bankruptcy for the next ten generations. And if they say it under oath, prosecuted for perjury.

MissMarple2

Jack,

I am used to it. Get it on Twitter all of the time. That's all they have, that and character assassination of the President and his family, plus calling us stupid hicks.

anonamom

How coronavirus gets around:

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-uk-superspreader.html

Jane

My puppy is (hopefully) at the end of a 5 hour meltdown. She gets anxious, can’t breath, has a collapsed trachea so the breathing gets worse and worse. Then can’t walk, or sit which makes her more nervous so her breathing gets worse and on and on. Every time it goes on for more than an hour I’m afraid her heart won’t take it. After 2 or 3 hours I just want God to end her pain.

She is still breathing heavy and can’t walk - but better.

Now that I brightened your day....

anonamom

From Instapundit:

GET WOKE, GO BROKE: Oscar Ratings Collapse 20 Percent to All-Time Low.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/02/10/nolte-woketard-oscars-collapse-20-percent-to-all-time-low/

Narciso

Yikes jane,


https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1227022816937201664

MissMarple2


https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/02/10/equality-hollywood-celebs-handed-225000-swag-bag-at-oscars/

Narciso

How did it happen?

anonamom

If I was Pete, this is who would worry me:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/amy-klobuchar-hits-her-stride-in-new-hampshire/

MissMarple2

ABC News’ @jonkarl at Trump rally in New Hampshire:

“Trump supporters are as fired up as I have ever seen them.”

“You’ve got the impeachment acquittal, good news on the economy & Democrats coming out of Iowa seeming to be in disarray.”

pic.twitter.com/jHtaGReYCg

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 11, 2020

Video at link of Jonathan Karl of ABC News at the Trump rally.

sbwaters

Jane, we faced similar anguish with Jeter, the miniature schnauzer who brightened our children’s lives so many years ago. He suffered seizures from Cushings ... until finally the tearful decision seemed best for him.

When we visited you, Kiwi was a delight to pet and tug-of-war with, and I’m glad she was in the chair next to me. All personality!

Thank you for persevering. And so long as it continues to be therapeutic for you, thank you for sharing.

Narciso


Winning the future?


https://amp.dailycaller.com/2020/02/10/prosecutors-nine-years-prison-roger-stone?__twitter_impression=true

MissMarple2

“Who knows man, who really knows?” THAT is the reply the White House came up with when asked how Obama created jobs in a district which doesn’t exist & where are the billions of $’s that were spent on this farce? @SteveScalise ON FIRE🔥THANK YOU SIR! pic.twitter.com/KNB6SJ7qbM

— 💫💋Extremely Stable Genius Nationalist Laare💋💫 (@MazurikL) February 10, 2020

Video at link. Scalise pointing out that in the first year of the Obama Administration they fraudulently claimed to create jobs from a fake district and didn't have any idea where the money went.

The Infamous Ignatz

I'm taking one last crack at this interminable [h/t Rich] thing and then letting it lie.
Theo has presented this odd strawman about free choice vs compulsion vs grass roots vs top down and mostly vs common sense.
Individuals and groups intentionally and unintentionally use whatever means are at their disposal to influence the culture, whether by hook, crook or dipsy-doodle. People hooked up to a Nielsen box do. Judges ramming something down our throats do. And a thousand things in between. Politics and the law are downstream from culture except when they're upstream, which is not infrequently, and they are in many ways inseparable and often one and the same. The false di, tri and quadrachotomies Theo introduced as "arguments" were and remain frivolous, pointless and nonsensical and aren't worth addressing further.

Various cultural influences are a deep, wide river which runs into a vast delta of divergent and convergent channels and estuaries that mix and intertwine and roll in and out with the various tides until they finally dump the general culture out and into the sea.
But it is not even arguable that the culture has been successfully pushed far, far, far in the direction the progs have been pushing it for 100 years and especially the last 50-60.
The culture and society and civilization the left wants doesn't vary much and never has; they are at war with God in the form of Christianity and Judaism and the Western Civilization founded on them both. By virtually every measure our culture is vastly less Christian and more secular than it was 100 or 50 years ago. I can't think of one area in which the opposite obtains.
Education and the universities are entirely dominated by leftists.
The media also.
Hollywood and the arts also.
The bureaucracy also.
Popular culture also.
The mainstream churches also.
Sexual mores.
Drug use.
Sports.
The economy.
Land use and ecological lunacy.
Even racial and ethnic relations are regressing to a cultural segregation hostile to what real progress was made, largely led by Christians, last century. MLK has been replaced by Ten Cent Coats.
The Overton window has slid so far left it's on a different building.
Just one example should suffice;
A hundred years ago kids read Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm. Fifty or sixty years ago they read Peanuts. Now, on their phones, they watch rappers talk about shootin cops and humpin hos and they have an endless supply of the most vile and hardcore porn at their fingertips anytime they want to see it.
Anyone's argument over the methods by how we got here is to paraphrase a phrase, so irrelevant it's not even wrong.
And anyone's denial that we are here in this utterly prog dominated culture just because there are enough sane people left to elect Trump is just that, denial.
Good always survives, but very often it survives like the ancient mammals, in the shadows and the nooks and the crevices as the SMOD of tyranny, which this leftist culture and the project that spawned it most assuredly are, envelops and wipes out the institutions of goodness and virtue. They haven't been completely successful yet so we don't live in the totalitarian dystopia they seek quite yet, but the drift from where we were to where we are has been a lot more reminiscent of the Titanic's course than Magellan's.

Narciso

You couldnt be crystal clearer:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/02/10/trump-describes-his-experience-with-pelosi-behind-him-during-his-sotu-address-n2561106

MissMarple2

Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
· 56m
BREAKING: Out of the 52,559 Tickets issued tonight at the Manchester Trump rally, 25.4% were Democrat!

People are waking up!

Congrats, @TeamTrump!

Narciso


Say what now?


https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/1227060455748796416

Catsmeat

Poor kiwi! I'm so sorry, Jane! And you and she have lived with this since she was a pup--lots of love there.

Another Bob

“Politics and the law are downstream from culture except when they're upstream”

I’d tweak that only a little.

Politics and the law are downstream from culture. But occasionally some will try to push politics and the law upstream to manipulate culture. It’s a subtle difference, I know.

JM Hanes

Ignatz:

I've never seen Will & Grace, so I wouldn't know what you're talking about. I do know I don't want to live my life looking in the rear view mirror. Ozzie and Harriet bored me the first time around.

MissMarple2

Breaking911
@Breaking911
·
8m
JUST IN: President Trump traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware tonight to pay respects to 2 U.S. soldiers who were killed Saturday in Afghanistan when a soldier dressed in an Afghan army uniform opened fire with a machine gun - AP

Another Bob

Well, that explains the quickie rally...

Narciso

Maybe something in the middle, pleasantville tried ti atigmatize the earlier instance

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/357897/?fbclid=IwAR0AE3gwpEOWOLD1oZ7LDsxHgwVmvx8L6b-y01IszCZsQOo4EuoLMWO4yGw

sbwaters

Re: culture & politics

1) My validation matters.
2) Don’t try to wear my skin for me.

Jane

Narc,

It’s all a result of her collapsed trachea, which she has had since birth. It gets worse and more often since she is older. The triggers are not always easy to identify.

Narciso


Theres no treatment for that?


https://mobile.twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1227057452996341761

MissMarple2

@POTUS ~ Look how many people love and trust you! ✨Beautiful✨

NH ❤️https://t.co/oMHQKg3Pe2

— JOANAMERICA1111⭐️⭐️⭐️Text Trump 88022 (@JoanofAmerica) February 10, 2020

Video at link with interviews with supporters.

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