Does Schadenfreude Help At All?

A daily dose of delight in the news that however bad things may be here, the mullahs are having it worse. The day may be coming when the Iranian people are free of them, and we hope it is for a better government ("better" meaning less oppressive, less inclined to sponsor terror, and focused on a better life for its own citizens rather than a worse life for those in Israel and the US.)

The Times does not mention the Saudi oil price war among the Iranian afflictions:

An extraordinary burst of contradictory messages in recent days has angered many of the country’s 80 million citizens, already stressed by severe American economic sanctions, unemployment and mistrust of their leaders.

In hindsight the oil price was going to collapse with a global COVID19 recession whatever the Saudis did. (Did I say "collapse"? West Texas Intermediate closed at $22/bbl on NYMEX today. Began the year at $60. Rear view mirror.)

Two heads have not been better than one in Iran:

Iran’s dual power structure — a religious supreme leader controlling the armed forces, and a president heading a civilian administration — has long been a recipe for factional rivalry. Interviews with officials, medical workers and political analysts suggest that it has left management of the epidemic reeling, without a clear commander.

There is also a fundamental disagreement about their strategy. Shut it down or ride it out?

In a closed meeting on Friday, the two sides clashed on strategy, according to four people with knowledge of the meeting.

Mr. Rouhani demanded that the armed forces adhere to his command. The generals refused and said Mr. Khamenei had authorized them to act independently.

The military men proposed closing off Tehran and vast swaths of the country, shutting businesses and limiting people’s movements — and using the armed forces to enforce the restrictions, as China and Italy have.

Mr. Rouhani refused, arguing that his government has no resources to support millions of people under quarantine. Basic services could collapse, he said, hurtling the nation deeper into crisis.

Worth watching and hoping.

Comments

[Captain Hate]

Suck it, unfree press. China virus it is.

[Dave (in MA)]

Trump applies the BFH to the MSM.

[jimmyk]

they finally succeeded when Houston's suggestion was to try hitting it.

That of course was the standard fix to fix the TV reception.

[Threadkiller]

Did he just diss Brix?

[Dave (in MA)]

Birx. Brix was how the Kim Jong Il puppet from Team America referred to Hans Blix. :^)

[joan]

I'm one of the old geezers alive in 1957. I had the flu, was a sophomore in high school. Lots of teenagers were sick (friends,etc.) What I remember was how hard it hit my system, how high my fever went, but no one else in my family caught it. Worst thing that always makes me shiver is zI had canker sores, roof of mouth, tongue, gums. Almost unbearable.

My dad continued going to the office. My mother was a librarian and opened the library and worked every day. Absolutely no talk of closing anything in my little area of the world. Life went on -- normal. Don't remember any politicians chiming in. My parents were conservatives and talked openly about politics, so think if there had been minute-by-minute coverage they did or didn't like, I'd have heard about it.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://youtu.be/D-N5xMjAtRg?t=66

[lyle]

Did he just diss Brix?

What does the percentage sugar level in winemaking have to do with CV?

(Okay, it’s a really obscure reference and not even a good joke...)

[Dave (in MA)]

1957 was also the year the US was able to knock down the yearly polio epidemic with the Salk vaccine, with the Sabin vaccine being rolled out over the next several years.

[Buckeye]

Lyle,

I have some device over at Jr.’s place that measures specific gravity, but the scale is in terms of “brix”.

I could still be making wine, but Jr. conned me out of the equipment for his beer experiments:)

[Captain Hate]

I was at an NBA game last night and I saw guys in MAGA hats harassing Chinese people over COVID 19. Trump must resign!!!
Posted by: Chunk Uyger at March 19, 2020 12:00 PM (OD2ni)

[MissMarple2]

Dave,

That's right! I was one of those lined up at school to get the first of the 3 shots needed for full immunity, since Eli Lilly manufactured it and their plant was here.

[Dave (in MA)]

Birx doesn't know the difference between anecdote and antidote?

[Jack Lillywhite]

Kerzgesagt (in a nutshell) video explains SARS COVID 2 or CoVid-19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtN-goy9VOY

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

What is the difference between a company executing a stock buy back and an individual investing in the stock market?

Both are saving for a rainy day and compounding their current cash with investing returns.

Is congress and the media really this stupid? Rhetorical I know.

[cathyf]

Here's the letter that Fr. Jenkins sent out yesterday afternoon closing the Notre Dame campus through the end of the semester:

March 18, 2020

Dear Students and Parents,

On Sunday, March 15th the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a new recommendation that no gatherings with 50 people or more be held for the next eight weeks. Informed by this recommendation as well as conversations with state and local health officials, and in consultation with other University leaders, I have decided to extend the suspension of in-person classes at Notre Dame to the end of the semester. Distance learning for our students will continue until then.

I deeply regret having come to this conclusion, but it would be impractical and irresponsible to bring our students back to campus before the end of the semester. I urge faculty and students to do the very best they can through distance learning.

In a recent message, I pledged to our senior class that we will do everything possible, within the bounds of health considerations, to bring them back to campus to spend time with one another and to celebrate Commencement with their family and friends. We still plan to hold Commencement, as scheduled, on May 17th, a date that is outside of the eight weeks covered by the CDC guidelines. We recognize, however, that it may be necessary to change those plans.

I recently spoke with student government and class officers of the Class of 2020. As I said to them, we hope to know more in the next two to four weeks and, if we are not able to hold Commencement on May 17th, we will explore with academic and student leaders the possibility of holding Commencement at another date later in the summer. We will, of course, keep everyone informed.

Now, with the cancellation of in-person classes for the rest of the semester, the University will pro-rate room and/or board charges for the spring semester and make the appropriate refund to your student account. I thank our Notre Dame families for their patience and understanding as we address this issue and the scores of others that have emerged in the wake of this pandemic.

We are also working on ways that student belongings may be retrieved from your on-campus residences in a safe and orderly fashion. Students will receive a message on this from the Office of Student Affairs soon.

While the focus of this letter has been thus far on our undergraduate students, we also recognize the profound impact of these necessary decisions on graduate and professional school students and post-doctoral scholars. Additional information for these groups will be forthcoming from the relevant deans.

The Catholic Diocese of Fort Wayne – South Bend made the difficult decision yesterday to suspend the celebration of public Masses in the Diocese. Consequently, Masses will not be open to the public at the Basilica of the Sacred Heart. However, the Congregation of Holy Cross will continue to celebrate Mass daily and the University will make it available via live-streaming Mondays through Saturdays and via Catholic TV on Sundays. I hope some of you will be able to join us remotely.

We in the Notre Dame community, along with nearly everyone around the world, are enduring a difficult, uncertain and anxious time. I thank you for your patience and understanding as we sort through the many challenges and decisions that must be made. I know that, in addition to the many inconveniences of the current moment, many of you struggle with worries about the health and economic security of family and friends. Let us continue to strengthen one another by mutual support and prayer.

In Notre Dame,

Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.
President

It looks to me like 8 weeks is a really long time in this thing -- what happens if we find a treatment or the weather/whatever turns this thing around? It was only one week ago that the kids left campus. Two weeks ago that they cancelled their Europe trip. Heck, not even three weeks since Notre Dame evacuated their students from the Rome program.

[Buckeye]

Watching the presser and the market numbers, I am really curious just who writes the algorithms that the bots execute, and who changes or updates them.

Pretty obvious that they have been tweeked to force a nosedive when Trump speaks.

Some air wasters need dealt with.

[Dave (in MA)]

MSM has a boner for nationalization of industries.

[Neo]

Gov. Ron DeSantis Says Florida is Shutting Down For Spring Breakers: ‘The Party is Over’

[MissMarple2]

HA! Gives it right back to the reporter (CNN I think) about calling him racist for banning Chinese coming in.

[henry]

The press should emigrate in mass to China. They crave the dictatorship.

[Tom R]

Several years ago I was diagnosed with Sjogren's Syndrome. It's a nasty autoimmune disease that is genetic based. Common symptoms are dry mouth and dry eye with the worst symptom behind joint and muscle pain and stiffness similar to acute arthritis.

The doctor who diagnosed me put me on hydroxychloroquine (aka plaquenil) which happens to be the same drug that may be effective against COVID 19. Neat story on that drug. It was originally designed to be an anti-malaria drug. It was provided to all the construction workers who were building the Panama Canal to prevent/cure malaria. One thing the doctors starting noticing was that everyone taking the hydroxychloroquine were suffering from less joint and muscle pain. Turns out the drug had a beneficial side effect of being an anti-inflammatory drug as well.

Hydroxychloroquine is the only known anti-inflammatory drug that helps people like me with Sjogren's. If I didn't take it my hands and fingers would become mostly unusable due to pain and stiffness within a few days.

[Buckeye]

I was at an NBA game last night and I saw guys in MAGA hats harassing Chinese people over COVID 19. Trump must resign!!!

Wait till he sees what happens to the press if they keep this crap up.

[MissMarple2]

State Department meeting about stopping American overseas travel later today.

I am glad that they have these press conferences because it is OBVIOUS that id we depended on these news outlets for information we would be in a state of panic and possibly fatal misinformation.

[MissMarple2]

President's response over question about thinking of a repercussion to China and also re-thinking ouor supply lines:

"I don't want to comment on that."

[Buckeye]

You should leave immediately!

[Rocco]

I was also three in 1957 but I don't remember getting the flu. I do remember Dr. Graveson making house calls for me though.

My grandmother used to say, "worrying is a lot like rocking in a chair, it gives you something to do but doesn't get you anywhere." I've thought about that a lot lately.

[MissMarple2]

HA! Tells press they are sitting too close and they should probably get rid of about 75% of them.

[lyle]

The press should emigrate be in a mass grave in China.

[ed. note]

[Captain Hate]

I am glad that they have these press conferences because it is OBVIOUS that id we depended on these news outlets for information we would be in a state of panic and possibly fatal misinformation.

Doing the opposite of what Karl "Costanza" Rove would advise is, by definition, the correct course of action.

[Buckeye]

Bikers for Trump have a new assignment.

Take care of the vermin that is infesting the WH press room.

[rse]

cathy-because of the consistency among the statements at 'elite' schools (I have had quite a few forwarded to me) and the consistency of the remedies it does appear to be a coordinated effort not to have any outliers.

I just said to hubby I think the Equity argument will get used to push away from graduations as they argue that the nationwide and international travel means that only the more affluent students can make it back. Lots of colleges were doing campaigns to donate FF miles to get kids home over last week as it is.

Will be interesting to see. Already had plane tickets paid for and a room for two nights at ouch prices paid for.

Thanks for sharing that.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

the press is going to have a shit about Trump's suggestion that there are too many in the press room and that only 3 should be there.

[MissMarple2]

Steph,

Yes they will. As far as I am concerned, he is right, though.

[rse]

Speaking of spring breakers--

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130095/Family-25-year-old-Auburn-University-grad-got-coronavirus-urge-young-people-stay-in.html

The Diva had some high school friends annoyed with her for not meeting them Tuesday at area bars for st patrick's day. She thought they were nuts to risk bringing something back home from partying, especially after so many had flown in last week.

We are taking turns using the kitchen and I suspect my daughters intend to let me make the hummus alone that everyone seems to be craving.

[MissMarple2]

I see that the press has been coming through everything they can find to try to make a scandal.

And so far, the President is on top of things, even the college kids from Alabama trapped in Peru, and is apparently working on arranging a military evacuation.

[Manuel Transmission]

In 57 we had just moved to Seattle and I started 7th grade in a JR Hi about 10x the size of the farm town grade school I’d left. I’m sure the flu ripped through there, but it was no different than any other year where I seemed to get the flu. No shutdowns, no doctor visits. Don’t think I ever saw a doc under duress in all my growing up. Still trying to recall anyone in my entire life who died of the flu except for my granny in 1920.

[MissMarple2]

RACIST question!

[Jane]

A study by the University of Southampton published this month tells us how China’s cover-up affected the spread of the virus:

The study estimates that by the end of February 2020 there was a total of 114, 325 COVID-19 cases in China. It shows that without non-pharmaceutical interventions – such as early detection, isolation of cases, travel restrictions and cordon sanitaire – the number of infected people would have been 67 times larger than that which actually occurred.

The research also found that if interventions in the country could have been conducted one week, two weeks, or three weeks earlier, cases could have been reduced by 66 percent, 86 percent and 95 percent respectively – significantly limiting the geographical spread of the disease.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/study-reveals-how-deadly-chinas-coronavirus-cover-up-was/

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

OAN FTW!!!!

[MissMarple2]

I should have clarified my comment and Stephanie is right! OAN asked a STELLAR question!

[MissMarple2]

Sean Spicer
@seanspicer
·
1m
When asked by a reporter in @WhiteHouse
#CoronaVirusUpdate press briefing @POTUS
@realDonaldTrump
agrees that some in US media are siding with China #coronavirus #China

[Dave (in MA)]

Was the OAN reporter the Asian woman in the left rear side of the room?

[henry]

@timodc

"Do you consider the phrase Chinese food racist" - Question from OANN at the White House briefing.

[MissMarple2]

Stephanie,

That OAN reporter is @ChanelRion

[GUS]

I think the STUPIDITY VIRUS and the CORRUPT POLITICIAN VIRUS are all far more contagious than the CHINESE VIRUS.

Just keep going along with CHUCK SCHUMER and the GOVERNMENT. Get in those boxcars and you'll soon find yourself in A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!

[rse]

More than ever, the climate crisis and the rise of AI mean we’re all in this together. It’s time for community conversations about the implications of this new age of mutuality.

https://www.gettingsmart.com/2020/03/%ef%bb%bfthe-new-mutuality/

Gag. The ed links keep making references to not letting a crisis go to waste.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/one-america-news-network-appoints-chanel-rion-to-lead-white-house-coverage-300985709.html

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Was the OAN reporter the Asian woman in the left rear side of the room?

I believe so...

[Captain Hate]

@brianstelter
The tiny cable channel @OANN can do whatever it wants. What it chose to do today - is shameful.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tater mad.
Posted by: Tami at March 19, 2020 12:59 PM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++
Two things:
1) When the dumbest man in media says bad things about you, it's a win.
2) CNN was a tiny cable channel once. So was ESPN. Don't rise above your raisin', CNN.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 19, 2020 01:00 PM (hYcqw)

[rse]

A new report by the Future of Humanity Institute discusses innovative strategies for distributing the benefits of AI. It will require a portfolio of public-benefit agreements, limiting regulations (like recent EU proposals), and taxation that will help share the benefits and wealth created by AI-powered tech giants.

The world’s great religions have always preached mutuality. The predicted oscillations of complex natural and man-made systems suggest that it’s never been more important to recognize that we’re all in this together. This new chapter of human existence requires new rules of mutual support, access to learning and opportunity, and a focus on sustainability.

Senator Bernie Sanders might call this a socialist agenda. But this new opportunity platform is closer to European Flexicurity, with a big dose of solution-focused public and private investment that rewards entrepreneurship (i.e., spotting an opportunity and delivering value). We’ll need to invent our way out of this interesting mixture of opportunity and challenge, abundance and existential threat.

More than ever, the climate crisis and the rise of AI mean we’re all in this together. It’s time for community conversations about the implications of this new age of mutuality.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Thanks MM. I've seen her on some other reports before. My parents get OAN on their AT&T cable, but Comcast doesn't have them.

I'm getting really pissed at Comcast. I have Comcast home security and TV for the home and Comcast business internet for my business which is also wired into the house (much faster speed and guaranteed minimal downtime). They haven't figured out how to allow me to stream the business account internet to my home account TVs. Idjits....

[sbwaters]

I don't expect @AP to lead with @realdonaldTrump's closing evaluation of most of the press -- including the #NYTimes, #Wapo, and #WSJ.

[Extraneus]

Seriously, how does Rick Wilson avoid getting his ass kicked by a random dude who knows who he is? Can he afford 24/7 security?

[MissMarple2]

President at FEMA at 2PM Eastern, according to You Tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUtsx8EzwN0

[rse]

https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/Windfall-Clause-Report.pdf is the actual report The Age of Mutuality refers to. I warned this morning this was all about the Human Devt Society and I hadn't even heard this Age of Mutuality hype yet.

[Dave (in MA)]

.

[Extraneus]

Wut?

Ilhan Omar Lauds Trump’s ‘Incredible’ Response to Coronavirus — ‘Unprecedented Leadership’

[MissMarple2]

OK,

Now I have a little under an hour to get some more stuff done, plus we are to get our first Kroger grocery delivery today in the next hour, so I want to make sure I am available to tip the guy.

Back for the FEMA meeting!

[Jane]

Midweek in Pictures!

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/mid-week-in-pictures-paper-route-blues-edition.php

[GUS]

Train is leaving the STATION, are all of the EXPERTS on BOARD.
If you trust government, you're fucking nuts.

Opportunity for more graft. Pure and simple.

[cathyf]

I was at an NBA game last night and I saw guys in MAGA hats harassing Chinese people over COVID 19. Trump must resign!!!

Um, I think that's a parody -- NBA games were all cancelled a week ago...

[lyle]

Simply underscores my point, cathyf. Parody or real life: how can you tell?

🤔

[Melinda]

Burr knew and traded on the Inside Info to donors:

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1240669835790557184

[James D.]

Ext @ 1:09

The Dems’ internal polling must be just unbelievably bad.

[Captain Hate]

FTR I knew it was parody.

[GUS]

Don't worry Mel, Burr is a GOP guy and so he's an honest politician.

[lyle]

I think we all did, CH.

[clarice]

My mom (will be 101 next month) and I had a facetime chat courtesy of one of her caretakers. Useful --because those seniors under lockdown need to see their friends and family. How fortunate we are.

[Captain Hate]

Burr trying to maximize the grift on the way out? In the spirit of bipartisanship I wouldn't mind him being prosecuted in front of a GOP hating DC jury.

[GUS]

Closed down Jr's University for the semester. Gave the kids until next FRIDAY to clear their dorm rooms. Lots of rules. I trust EDUCRATS, don't you??

[lyle]

The first response to that tweet Melinda links is from see you next Tuesday Jen Rubin calling for Burr to explain or resign. Her response if he was a D? Well, you know...

[Captain Hate]

I don't want to malign my fellow Ahian but I'm not sure about his 12:26.

[Dave (in MA)]

It's only been less than an hour and already social media is filled with anti-Chanel Rion butthurt whining.

[Old Lurker]

How big was the refund check the school sent you, GUS?

[Extraneus]

Cuomo: You Know Who’s Doing A Good Job On NY’s COVID-19 Outbreak? Trump

[joan]

One thing I just remembered about having the flu, [Asian or Hong Kong, have seen it called both and I'm not going to research,] was when I recovered I ended up with a fever blister on my top lip that embarrassed me (I was a cheerleader, didn't feel good enough to yell, dance, or leap about), so I sat in the stands but still kept kept putting my head down so my friends wouldn't tease me.

The interesting thing to me is I never had another fever blister or cold in my whole life. My husband, when he gets sick, will sometimes have a fever blister, and he has colds every winter. I don't catch them. He also has had a canker sore a few times -- I've never had another one. We both take flu shots. In spite of the shot, several times he's still had a bad case of the flu over the years. I hadn't until last winter. I, caught the flu from him, ended up with bronchitis and it took me two months to get over it.

I've always thought the Asian or Hong Kong flu I had as a teenager must have been like a smallpox vaccination to my system. But, then, I am an old geezer and might be slipping. :)

[MissMarple2]

Tipped the Kroger delivery guy (who looked like he had been hired from a drug re-hab shelter).

I told him to be careful and wash his hands. He told me that everything was overblown and China was already over it. I told him that I don't believe a thing China says and he shouldn't, either.

[Neo]

"You have a lot of people now who are at home, normally they're not, cabin fever sets in and you have a crowded environment," he said.
"Racially tinged statements from the Chinese Communist Party are not a good mix."

[henry]

Burr was reading the CDC advice from that day. Public info. Thus moar fake news.

[lyle]

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/03/18/bernie-sanders-lashes-im-dealing-fking-global-crisis/

When asked to elaborate, Sanders replied, “Look, when you’re being instructed to stay home, I’m merely dragging out my campaign to up the bid from the DNC to pay me to stay home at my next home, m’kay?”

[Extraneus]

Yes, Dave. A lot of butthurt out there.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Chanel%20Rion&src=typed_query

[Tom R]

Burr knew and traded on the Inside Info to donors

Melinda @ 1:19

Where are you getting that Burr "traded" on the inside info? I didn't see anything in that NPR article that wasn't discussed here at JOM 3+ weeks ago. I think the entire world knew 3 weeks ago that COVID19 spread more aggressively than any virus we have seen recently.

The article said Burr helped write the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act (PAHPA) so what he told that gathering were actions he knew the government would take if it got serious.

But in his public comments about the threat of COVID-19, Burr never offered the kind of precise warning that he delivered to the small group of his constituents.

That comment in the article should have triggered everyone's Fake News BS alert. It's not Burr's or any Senators job to pass on that kind of information. It's Trump's job to determine what the government's public comments are.

[James D.]

OL @ 1:28

If there is no refund check, maybe GUS and a whole bunch of fellow parents should file disputes with their banks and get the payments to the school reversed since they are not receiving the product they paid for.

[Narciso]

We thought corked bat would be for tax avoidance, silly us.

[henry]

CNBC
@CNBC
State Department to instruct Americans not to travel abroad due to coronavirus

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1240691910253015041

[Neo]

chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine
The map says it all: COVID-19 is where Malaria is not.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YDytbAsZaruGlhFO7eTTgxSH_BuxJtwFmbhqpkPPSk/mobilebasic?fbclid=IwAR2wXhG5woobpV5DAuHxnf7YOxalQiCkPMX-rUL2z6SIa0AJGovbJ9ATq7A

[MissMarple2]

Dear Media Hacks,
Keep bending a knee for your China overlords and promoting their propaganda. This is the kind of bullshit you’re supporting. 👇🏻👇🏻 https://t.co/RDOa0KbH4Z

— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) March 19, 2020

Link goes to a tweet with a CCP "analyst" saying that since we had a medicine available, it means WE made the virus. Chanel's question about pushing Chinese POV was spot on!

[lyle]

The Onion is stealing my gag lines:

Trump Hits Back At China By Announcing U.S. Will Also Expel American Journalists

I came up with this two days ago. 😬

[rse]

Limit weddings to only five people, says Church of England

The number of people attending church weddings during the coronavirus crisis should be limited to the legal minimum of five - the priest, the bride and groom and two witnesses, the Church of England has said.

[MissMarple2]

.@OANN’s @ChanelRion is a SAVAGE today in the White House press conference calling out the leftists media for defending Chinese communists, Islamic radicals, foreign propagandists, Latin gangs. Thank you for calling them out, Chanel!! pic.twitter.com/prudJlER3w

— Brandon Straka (@BrandonStraka) March 19, 2020

Video at link of the exchange with Chanel Rion.

[lyle]

Not only is that OANN gal insanely hawt, she calls out the MFM right to their smug faces. Brava, girl!

[jimmyk]

chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine

So how widely available and plentiful are these drugs? In non-malaria areas, that is.

[jimmyk]

Meant to add: And are they supposed to be preventive as well as curative? Only the former would account for that world distribution map that neo linked.

[GUS]

Notice desperate FULL COMMIES trying to take advantage of the "Emergency". Grubbing for cash, blaming US/U.S./POTUS.

They are a domestic threat.

[Jane]

I think they are pretty easy to get Jimmy.

[Threadkiller]

It's not Burr's or any Senators job to pass on that kind of information. It's Trump's job to determine what the government's public comments are.

Glad your back Tom, the place hasn’t been the same without you.

Did you read the paragraphs after the quote you posted?

[lyle]

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/03/tulsi-gabbard-ends-her-campaign-she-began-it-front-daniel-greenfield/

Meanwhile some conservatives who fell in love with a calculating politician who has Bernie's politics and Biden's integrity might want to wake up.

I don’t know how many “conservatives” actually fell in love with her but she got talked up pretty well for a while there in the Mirengoff crowd...

[Neo]

Well, the Camptown ladies sing this song wuhan wuhan
Ah the Camptown race track's five miles long oh wuhan day

[lyle]

I think they are pretty easy to get Jimmy.

Aren’t they also pretty easy to make in mass quantities?