Saturday Evening Wind-down

This lockdown stuff gets old fast on a rainy day.

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[Narciso]

Strange days indeed:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/03/league-women-voters-gives-award-representative-joe-kaufman/?fbclid=IwAR3P9pdT2cNFzg1xV6cRPa8MNmdXox_rZDtl_JvJBwybDg9bc8-tYnjBdcI#.XnzMMZKz8BK.facebook

[Buford Gooch]

Everyone must be pretty wound down. Where y'all at?

[Pinandpuller]

There have been more remarkable criminals in the Senate and House of These United States but only because this generation of vipers is so utterly unremarkable.

[Narciso]

Well remember what twain said pin, about the legislature.

[Narciso]

Thats curious

https://pjmedia.com/trending/who-expert-mysteriously-disappears-from-website-after-carrying-water-for-china/?fbclid=IwAR2XbdgzrwiEP7TNDnN1tm9CmNKkFkvzl2S4bD_UYQeeZXpRt3GaAKW5bMs

[Threadkiller]

Q Can you speak a little bit about the congressional oversight? Can you assure the American people that the money will be appropriately --

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, we have a great oversight -- a great oversight committee. We have a lot of people watching. It’s a wonderful thing we’ve done for the workers and for the citizens. It’s really, potentially, $6.2 trillion. And a lot of people are going to work, and it’ll bring back the economy, I think, very fast. Okay?

Q But what do you think about Democrats criticizing you that you’re overriding this congressional oversight?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, they couldn’t be criticizing me because we got a unanimous vote. How can they possibly criticize me? They just gave me -- she’s saying they’re criticizing me, the Democrats. Why did they vote for it? We got a unanimous vote.

Q Thank you, Mr. President

Hahah, I get it now. Massie stood in they way of Trump’s $6.2 trillion Crisis boogaloo narrative!

“Hey it was unanimous!”

Stay thirsty, my friends.

[Captain Hate]

Everyone must be pretty wound down. Where y'all at?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/44112/458391/

[Narciso]

Jimmy noticed this:

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1062710901

[Narciso]

So hes a real sciemtisr, that doesnt cotton to skydragons

[DrJ]

MrsJ is drinking North Coast Old Rasputin Imperial Stout. The local establishments are out of the Lagunitas Imperial Stout that she prefers.

They don't work for me, but that's OK.

[Threadkiller]

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/1524/

;-)

[Narciso]

Health ethicists, seems a comtradiction i practice.

[henry]

TM, “a rainy day”? Weather.com tells me the next sunny day is “none.” Kind of like the home detention our Governors inflicted on us. Next free day is “none.”

[Narciso]

I was hearing uv light work against viruses in general?

[DrJ]

No narc, it doesn't. UV of the proper wavelengths works for bacteria, but not viruses.

[Narciso]

Hoe abour humidifiers

https://mobile.twitter.com/GPollowitz/status/1244050762256261126

[jimmyk]

Health ethicists, seems a comtradiction

A standard journo technique: Find one "expert" who is critical of Trump, and write "Experts say...."

[Threadkiller]

I am sending a letter to McCarthy to request a one page editorial in the paper of his choice that tallies all those “dog ate my homework” notes in favor of this legislation. Maybe there won’t be a record in Congress, but he could at least give us some names.

Why not? The crisis time sensitive vote is done. No pressure on the proponents or detractors now. Say it! Say it!!

[DrJ]

Well, UV light can keep the humidifier bacterial load down.

[Narciso]

Gruesome earns his name

https://mobile.twitter.com/OptimisticCon/status/1244062802089660417

[jimmyk]

DrJ, any benefits from Vitamin D production on the immune system?

[Threadkiller]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
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My daughter just said, “It’s funny that they call you Mr. No, but you’re the only one who took action.”

[DrJ]

jimmyk, I've no idea.

[Threadkiller]

From Clarice on the last thread:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/03/americas-superb-unappreciated-president-john-perazzo/

👍

[Captain Hate]

MrsJ is drinking North Coast Old Rasputin Imperial Stout. The local establishments are out of the Lagunitas Imperial Stout that she prefers.

They don't work for me, but that's OK.

Old Rasputin is very good when cellared for two years. North Coast brewery is very good for that and Old Stock Ale, the Sauternes of beer, which takes up the lion's share of my cellar.

[DrJ]

CH,

Cellaring? What's that? :)

[MissMarple2]

I made cheeseburgers and have cone the dishes by hand and cleaned up the kitchen.

Also, I fed the dogs and made sure they got out vefore the thunderstorm.

Now for a second glass of wine. Ha!

[jimmyk]

Re Vitamin D, this says yes:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-coronavirus

[Captain Hate]

DrJ,

Around 1990, the father of our foreign exchange student, Gaëtan, sent me a bunch of wine including a Sauternes about which he told me "save this for a special occasion". Assuming pandemic mania subsides by August, and his daughter Emilie is able to come here for her 40th birthday, I think that would qualify.

[DrJ]

CH, we have a few wines stored for aging and a special day. We've not done so for beer-like substances, nor for most of the wine we drink.

Yours sounds like a winner, both for the wine and the occasion.

[Buford Gooch]

JimmyK, the vitamin D thing is good advice. A vast swath of the country is vitamin D deficient. Get out in the daylight (you'll get some vitamin D even if it's quite cloudy) and keep your supplements up.

[Captain Hate]

DrJ,

The vast majority of beer is made to be consumed fresh. Some, though, age very well including barleywines and some, not all, imperial stouts.

[Momto2]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
My daughter just said, “It’s funny that they call you Mr. No...

How old is this daughter? I hope it's not another one of those cases where a 3-year-old expounds upon climate change and how her future might be impacted!

[Pinandpuller]

I’m a Coronachan man

But I can’t seem to cough

Love to give the ills a whirl

To the music of Danse Macabre

But when my money’s all gone

There’s a telethon

Saying, “Hey hey Nancy can your serfs leave home?”

[Narciso]

I caught some sun today? Passed the pool where there were some people in it.

[macthenaif]

If wikipedia is to be believed, Tom Massie previously crossed Trump on China, Israel, the southern border, and Justin Amash. Other than that, Mrs Lincoln ...

[Momto2]

Charlie Daniels
@CharlieDaniels

Mr President I don’t give a damn what anybody else says
I believe you’re doing everything in your power to defeat this plague and I thank God that you are at the helm in these troubled waters
You’re strong , you’re energetic and you don’t kowtow to the media
Rock on Mr President

[Rocco]

That climate scientist is ranked #1 in the world for his expertise on communicable diseases.

http://expertscape.com/ex/communicable+disease

[DrJ]

COVID-19 hits home. We are having some minor work done on the house. A good friend of our carpenter has come down with COVID-19, and has deferred his work here pending a quarantine.

[Narciso]

Sorry to hear that dr. J.

[Narciso]

But whitmer with the locking hands tweet, lol.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Pregnant women in New York City will not have to endure labor alone or remain isolated from their partners and families after Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced an executive order on Saturday.

"In no hospital in New York will a woman be forced to be alone when she gives birth. Not now, not ever," Cuomo said on Twitter.

[Narciso]

And how to ensure there will e no contamination?

[Narciso]

I found out whitmer is the daughter of a blue cross blue shield exec.

[henry]

Narciso, any contamination is blamed on orangemanbad.

[jimmyk]

That climate scientist is ranked #1 in the world for his expertise on communicable diseases.

That is impressive. But the opinion of some "health ethicist" that a journalist found is surely more compelling.

Seriously, Dr Raoult has that kind of "F*** you" toward the establishment and "consensus" that I can't help admiring.

[jimmyk]

And I'm sure one can quibble with the rating system, like any other ratings, but it surely suggests he's not some hack. The sneering attitude of the writer in that EE piece about him ought to have that shoved in his face.

[Threadkiller]

More from Wiki:

On April 10, 2019, Massie got in a tense exchange with Former Secretary of State John Kerry during Kerry's testimony to the House Oversight and Reform Committee when Massie called Kerry's political science degree from Yale University a "pseudoscience degree" and called Kerry's position on climate change "pseudoscience." Kerry responded, "Are you serious? I mean this is really a serious happening here?"[62]

[JimNorCal]

Too true, TM.

In the meanwhile, the well known generosity of liberals on display.
https://www.weaselzippers.us/446240-kennedy-center-tells-musicians-it-will-stop-paying-them-hours-after-25-million-bailout-is-signed/

[Threadkiller]

More:

Massie has said that the evidence behind the scientific consensus on climate change is not compelling.[73] On the topic of climate change, Massie said "there's a conflict of interest for some of the people doing the research. I think some people are trying to integrate backwards, starting with the answer and working the other way. I think the jury is still out on the contribution of our activities to the change in the earth's climate".[73] In 2013, he implied that cold weather undercut the argument for climate change, tweeting "Today's Science Committee Hearing on Global Warming canceled due to snow".[74] During a 2019 House Oversight Committee hearing on the impact of climate change, Massie suggested that concerns over rising carbon dioxide levels were exaggerated, asking a witness, former senator John Kerry, why carbon dioxide levels millions of years ago were higher despite the non-presence of humans.[75][76] CNN and The Washington Post described Massie's exchange with the witness as "surreal" and "bizarre".[75][76]

Massie supports dismantling the Environmental Protection Agency.[77] He voted to block the Department of Defense from spending on climate adaptation.[78] He voted to repeal the Stream Protection Rule, which imposed stricter requirements on coal mining to prevent coal debris from getting into waterways.[79]

In 2018, after French President Emmanuel Macron held a speech to Congress where he mentioned his desire that the United States re-join the Paris Climate Accords to curb climate change, Massie said Macron was "a socialist militarist globalist science-alarmist. The dark future of the American Democratic Party".[80]

[cathyf]

They could use the USS Comfort as the maternity ward.

Most modern maternity units are set up to be somewhat separated from their hospitals. Even in normal circumstances you want to protect the babies and moms from sick people, and protect the sick people from the babies’ families.

[Pinandpuller]

Meanwhile in Hispanioc: The cockfights must flow

[Narciso]

Unbelievable now harvard fired their custidial wirkers before will they hire them back.

[Rocco]

Seriously, Dr Raoult has that kind of "F*** you" toward the establishment and "consensus" that I can't help admiring.

Spot on jimmyk! The last few lines from the article you posted.

Raoult is confident his work will hold up.

"In my field, I am a star, worldwide," Raoult told the La Provence newspaper in France. "I don't give a damn what others think. I am not an outsider. I'm streaks ahead of the others."

Love it!

[JimNorCal]

Language alert
From an email, attributed to AoS

"Everything is about the Wuhan Flu, and I’m sick of the damn flu. I’m sick of the MSM sucking off the commies, and I’m sick of what seems more and more of a monumental overreaction to the actual threat. Since last Sunday, I’ve been keeping track of the number of deaths in the US. Not cases – anyone with half a brain realizes that as testing ramped up, the number of cases would too – deaths. Here are the numbers, taken roughly every 12 hours since last Sunday at noon: 402, 417, 473, 521, 592, 746, 849, 1042, 1046, 1296, and 1301 at noon today. As of this writing, the number is 1581 (all data from CSSE at JHU). It’s obviously a serious situation, but serious enough to justify throwing our economy into a blender (and then increasing out national debt by 10% in one stroke because “the economy is in a blender!” ) in a nation that murders 2500 babies a day in service of a woman’s constitutional right to fuck her brains out as much as she wants without any chance of consequences? I’m having a real hard time seeing how the numbers justify the response, Jack, a real hard time, and it’s starting to piss me off. I doubt I’m the only one.” – Ace of Spades

[Rocco]

Oh and Fauci was ranked 36th fwiw.

nite all

[Narciso]

Its a dogs breakfast of a bill, with quorum or without, what was the practical alternative, dr. Cavour nudged the lockdowm all the way down.

[jimmyk]

COVID-19 hits home.

We have good friends in that New Rochelle community that got hit. Not patient zero, but several others who tested positive. Here in NYC I don't think we have any personal friends who have tested positive, but still close to home, like a high admin at my daughter's former high school. There may be some we don't know about, since people don't exactly announce it on Facebook.

[Momto2]

Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie, a libertarian, was the only member of the Republican Party to vote against last week’s resolution in the U.S. House of Representatives condemning the anti-Israel BDS movement.
July 2019 Jewish News Syndicate

[jimmyk]

Yes, Rocco, and he's humble too! :)

[Barbara]

Dr Raoult has that kind of "F*** you" toward the establishment and "consensus" that I can't help admiring.

Me, too, jimmyk

[Threadkiller]

How old is this daughter? I hope it's not another one of those cases where a 3-year-old expounds

YouTube says this campaign ad is 7years old:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lk7BmvEJfQE

Family photo is about 10seconds in.

[Threadkiller]

Libertarians voting against meddling in foreign countries affairs?

The deuce you say.

[Momto2]

Thanks, TK - she appears to be old enough to genuinely make that comment.

[joan]

JimmK I read an article today in Healthline that says though no study has been done that Vitamin D is good protection for immune system and hopefully protection against virus.
Will look for it. I sent it to my sister.

[joan]

.lol, I didn't read thread past your question about Vit D.

[Momto2]

Warning - have you seen how Comey appears in the midst of the quarantine - click at your own risk:

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1244070245179981825

[Threadkiller]

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Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
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Aug 12, 2019
I took some heat for being the only Republican to vote NAY on this bill. I stand by my vote. 21 members of the Israeli Knesset had an issue with this bill, because they read it too.

“Israeli MKs to Congress: Thanks, but BDS bill 'dangerous for Israel' “

Israeli MKs to Congress: BDS bill language 'dangerous for Israel'

The House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved Resolution 246 opposing boycotts of Israel on July 23.
jpost.com

https://mobile.twitter.com/repthomasmassie/status/1160976335919112192?lang=en

Twenty-one members of Knesset from right-wing parties sent a letter to members of Congress on Monday thanking them for their recent pro-Israel anti-Boycott Divestment & Sanctions (BDS) resolution but warning them that the resolution's endorsement of a two-state solution is harmful, because the repercussions of a Palestinian state would be "far more dangerous for Israel" than the BDS Movement.

https://m.jpost.com/American-Politics/Israeli-MKs-to-Congress-Thanks-but-BDS-bill-dangerous-for-Israel-598392

[Narciso]

Doesnt a beard get in the way of a mask.

[jimmyk]

anyone with half a brain realizes that as testing ramped up, the number of cases would too – deaths.

Possibly, to the extent that more deaths that might have been attributed to something else are getting attributed to COVID-19, though I don't know how big that effect is. But the real issue is that most people don't realize how small those numbers are in a country of 330 million, where 10 or 20 times that number die each year of the seasonal flu (notwithstanding MT's question about that). The media are generating panic, which is contributing to a rush on ERs from people who don't need to go to the ER, from fear of dying from a disease that--even if they have it--very few people who aren't dying already actually die from. I probably sound callous, but with two parents in their 90s I don't make light of the deaths of the elderly, but just trying to put things in perspective.

[Threadkiller]

You are welcome, Momto2.

Nytol.

[clarice]

Correct, Jimmy. Fauci says new estimate is .01% will die of this flu, same number as seasonal flu.

enough has been done. Get America working again.

[Narciso]

Bagley and slavitt in particular, what a bunch of (redacted) and any other rep that went along with them.

[Barbara]

serious enough to justify throwing our economy into a blender (and then increasing out national debt by 10% in one stroke because “the economy is in a blender!” )

JimSunnyvale,

I'm not an economist and have relatively little knowledge of financial markets and how they work, but I do have a smattering of knowledge on how politicians manipulate events to their seeming advantage. I don't believe I'd be too far off the mark to suggest that this "crisis" at least wrt the United States has been manufactured by an unholy combination of the media and others who oppose the President. Just look at the push back he got when he suggested that there might be a promising, effective treatment for COVID-19.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Before I forget and since you can't trust anything you hear anywhere anymore, was there really something in that bill about voting by mail or is that just another stupid rumor?
And if someone supplies an answer it would be nice if they knew the answer and aren't just repeating the rumor.
Or alternately is there some link to an actual list of what was in the bill?

[Narciso]

It was in the original bill.

[Captain Hate]

Warning - have you seen how Comey appears in the midst of the quarantine - click at your own risk:

He looks just as mentally ill as most people have suspected.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Fauci says new estimate is .01% will die of this flu--

Citation?

[MissMarple2]

From Twitter:

⭐️⭐️
Rooster
⭐️⭐️

Does anyone have a photo of Joe Biden holding the American flag while building a multi billion dollar corporation.??

I didn’t think so
😉Thank you President Trump for everything you’re doing for us
You didn’t have to do this, and I thank you.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Linking Wretchard's latest again.
One of the top two or three commenters there Nuther Guy has some expertise in the medical field, which its nature I can't recall at the moment. His top comment is rather pessimistic on getting this bug manageable.

[Barbara]

Miss M,

Is that picture photo shopped?

[sbwaters]

Fauci says new estimate is .01% will die of this flu, same number as seasonal flu.

enough has been done. Get America working again.

We needed time to ramp up treatment or risk overwhelming facilities, pushing the death rate unnecessarily higher. That is the difference between CV and flu.

Now practice good habits, protect the at risk, and get back to work.

[MissMarple2]

Barbara,

I don't think so. I will look around and see, but I would be surprised.

Trump was a semi-celebrity even when he first got going.

I will take a look, though.

[Narciso]

Interesting question

https://mobile.twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1244020360594456577

[clarice]

Iggy:.” https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The NYT says the era of small government is over.
Dr. Fauci, no right winger says; Private Sector Saved Us On Testing, Govt ‘System’ Can’t Handle It.

[clarice]

I have great respect for our president and what he's done, but for heaven's sake, isn't it time he used the War Powers Act on Charmin and Scott?

[MJW]

No narc, it doesn't. UV of the proper wavelengths works for bacteria, but not viruses.

UV-C (short wavelength UV) seems to work for viruses. See for instance, Aerosol Susceptibility of Influenza Virus to UV-C Light and UV-C Irradiation: A New Viral Inactivation Method for Biopharmaceuticals.

[Barbara]

Thanks, Miss M.

[Narciso]

Defense preparedness act yes its sane like time travel guy says

[henry]

Not quite, WI is at 16 deaths. The forecast of roughly 1,500 more deaths over the next 11 days seems a stretch.

@maciverwisc

Wisconsin saw no new deaths as a result of the #coronavirus today. The WI death toll remains at 13 total. By April 8, the WI DHS estimates that the disease will take up to WI 1,500 lives.

https://twitter.com/maciverwisc/status/1244094260372258817?s=21

[JimNorCal]

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[JimNorCal]

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[MissMarple2]

Barbara,

I went through a fairly extensive image search. I couldn't find it, but I DID find one of Obama in a similar pose, and I know damn well he wasn't on a rooftop waving an American flag!

[Barbara]

LOL, Miss M! Excellent investigative work.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Thanks clarice.
He said;

"This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively."

That sounds quite a bit more hedged than;

"Fauci says new estimate is .01% will die of this flu."

And he based it on this assumption;
"If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. "

I hope he's right but consider me a Missourian, especially as the mortality rates continue to rise rather than fall even as testing expands considerably. At the moment new cases are doubling every five days or so and deaths are slightly outpacing that rate.

[Another Bob]

Man, are the lefties going after Birx.

“[Trump is] so attentive to the scientific literature & the details & the data. I think his ability to analyze & integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit”

They’re losing their sh1t over this.

[Narciso]

Fwiw

https://mobile.twitter.com/arabbitorduck/status/1244051284317085697

[Another Bob]

“ Daily coronavirus positivity: Italy set a high of daily new cases on March 21st of 6,557. Since then there has been an entire week of new daily infections below that number, suggesting a peak has been reached in Europe’s worst hit country.”

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1243963351933358080?s=21

Awaiting Jim’s confirmation overnight.

[clarice]

I don't see the discrepancy, Iggy.More akin to regular flu. we know from more widespread testing and evidence(see i.e., the UK) than at least 50% of those with it are asymptomatic and many more have only mild illnesses. Few require hospitalization. 90% recover on their own. It seems to be more highly transmissible than we think seasonal flu is(perhaps because of herd immunity and vaccines)but less lethal than we first thought.
Lots of things can explain the rise in deaths right now as we begin more testing, but I recall the first people tested in most places in the US were already symptomatic.