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March 15, 2020

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rse

Best go tell the saturday crowd we have moved on.

MissMarple2

A nice story from my city:

https://www.theindychannel.com/coronavirus/were-here-for-you-neighbors-are-helping-neighbors-on-northeast-side-during-covid-19-crisis

rse

Happy Ides of March everyone. Better luck than Julius to all.

Not much traffic out. Am guessing most people know grocery stores are rather futile right now. Went to get gas and took a clorox wipe to use to touch the pump plus my covered elbow.

Got long cooking chicken soup going and college kid is now home. Informed us it is all trump's fault because he wouldn't allow testing in time. Just let her ramble without interjecting.

Marlene

Good Morning! The other day while clothes shopping,I decided I wasn't go to buy anything made in China. Ha,good luck with that! I did buy a pair of white capris made in Bulgaria. Buying clothes is becoming quite a geography lesson!

Marlene

Florida hasn't cancelled the primary on Tuesday. Our polling place is a church just down the road. I trust the building will be sanitized after today's services. :)

Buckeye

Our primary is on Tuesday also.

Do you think it would be offensive if I carry a bottle of spray cleaner/sanitizer into the booth:)

Buckeye

Clarice

The libtards and never Trumpers have crystal balls in more ways than one:)

hrtshpdbox

I think the whole thing is silly, that I've had plenty worse than getting the flu happen in my life, and I can't imagine washing hands or things any more often than any other time (which I'm sure is way less than average anyway). So I'd be the slow zebra that gets caught by the lion, the casualty of the herd-thinning - except that I think the whole thing is silly and I won't have it. The economic damage caused by global over-reactions is a shame, but recovery won't take long. In fact, just like demands for gun control after a shooting, or for revamping voting systems after a hanging chad incident, people will soon pretty much forget about the whole thing.

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

I have tried 3 ways to link the tweet with the chapel that is holding the prayer service that President Trump will be watching. Typhuspad doesn't like it and disappears both the link and the entire tweet.

So, I thought I would post the President's Twitter page and you can locate it on there.

James D.

Happy birthday, Porch!

(well, according to FB, anyway)

Extraneus

Devin Nunes: ‘Media And The Left’ Are ‘Putting The Country Into A Panic’ For ‘No Reason’

Btw, he had the H1N1 flu.

MissMarple2

https://www.lex18.com/news/national/coronavirus/walmart-kroger-publix-among-retailers-changing-hours-amid-coronavirus-pandemic

Shortening hours nationwide.

Extraneus

I wonder how many millions of our fellow citizens were praying for Trump to test positive.

James D.

The economic damage caused by global over-reactions is a shame, but recovery won't take long.

Except for all the businesses that operate seasonally and lost their once-a-year blowout event that accounts for a big chunk of yearly revenue, or operate on slim margins and can't survive no customers/revenue for 6 weeks while still paying all their expenses.

And all the knock-on effects from those businesses going under.

sbwaters

Informed us it is all trump's fault because he wouldn't allow testing in time. Just let her ramble without interjecting.

I'm quickly reaching the conclusion that courteously ignoring irrational thought is no longer appropriate.

While nothing is gained by rationally attempting to explain why something is irrational to someone irrational, letting BS stand without clearly labeling it is problematic.

I'm not sure whether the better response is "That’s BS.", "That's silly." or just a horselaugh.

James D.

Ext, probably every Hillary voter from 2016, for a start.

Jack Lillywhite

When I was a student at Cincy, I remember that you could buy beer from the tap at most bars. People would come with big glass jugs and one of the taps had a hose they would use to fill the jug. You could drink 3.2% beer at 18 but you had to be 21 to drink 6% beer.

Also they had drive up stores called Ponys IIRC.

Here in Florida, grocery stores like Publix, sell beer and wine and some Publix’s have detached liquor stores. Separate entrance and checkout. The big Liquor store chain like ABC have it all including snacks, cheeses and cracker meats like salami.

Buckeye

I go to our grocery store nearly every day.

Starting Friday, the traffic exploded, and the shelf stocking effort was clearly ramped up, and looked to be a loosing battle.

Need to get the aisles unclogged to benefit both stocking and shopping.

Extraneus

Bodycam Footage Exists of Andrew Gillum Meth Orgy

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/13/u-haul-gives-free-month-storage-students-displaced-coronavirus/

rse

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/not-just-seniors-french-doctors-report-50-icu-patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under

Maybe because that age group is being less careful in gathering in groups?

Red and I went for a walk in the sunshine yesterday afternoon and came across a softball game which was definitely NOT social distancing unless we count the distance between the bases and not what was going on on the sidelines.

Extraneus

TK linked a Sundance post yesterday, which explained the logistics issues with grocery stores and why they would need to reduce hours. (From what I gather, Sundance has been criticized here for being a lowly Publix employee, but he/she doesn't mention that in the post.) Pretty informative.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/14/empty-shelves-understanding-supply-chains-logistics-and-recovery-efforts/

Old Lurker

James, lose 25% in stock values and the market has to come back 33% to get where it was. Lose 50% and the market has to come back 100% to get where it was.

Lose 25% of income from a small business and that 25% is simply gone for good. A haircut is a haircut and nails are just nails. Let them grow and save the fees. Groom your dog? Not. Dinners out forgone are not "made up" with double dinners out later.

Lose 25% of rents from Mom & Pop tenants and that cash flow is gone for good and if the tenant has to close and many will, that Landlord will not recover for 36-48 months given the costs of replacing tenants, and even then he will never recover the rent lost in the interim nor the costs of rebuilding the space. That "Wealth" is simply gone.

Add trillions and trillions to government debt and see how long it takes to pay THAT back. HaHa. How many years of future government taxes will have to service that incremental debt rather than feed the homeless or add ICU beds to hospitals?

This did not have to happen.

Just a Boomer whining I guess.

Extraneus

Surber:

Trump doesn't need rallies. Biden does

clarice

Online shopping right now is not only useful for consumers but for the grocers themselves, less people in the aisles so restocking can be smoother.

Captain Hate

Speaking of diseases, I'm just back from walking Teddy (he knows how to manipulate my wife into bugging me, inverting the owner/pet relationship; he doesn't pull that crap when I'm the only one here) and ran into a bird watcher who pointed out where the red shouldered hawks are building a nest. I mentioned the recent influx of hawks and she said it was because West Nile Virus hammered crows hard. I used to see trees full of those nest robbing pests and hear their cawing away but recently nada. Unfortunate she said it also hit owls hard too. But it cleared the area for hawks, who need to up their game against the squirrels as protein sources.

Captain Hate

Just a Boomer whining I guess.

No, that was a legit complaint about something both wings of the Uniparty have imposed on us. FTR my Boomer complaints aren't directed at you but at our generation in general.

clarice

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/chinese-tycoon-who-criticized-xis-response-to-coronavirus-has-vanished/ar-BB11cw1k?li=AAgfYrC

Interesting, CH--the virus decimated the crows around here, too, and I hace seen hawks circling instead.

Old Lurker

Mine too, Cap'n.

hrtshpdbox

Add trillions and trillions to government debt and see how long it takes to pay THAT back.

Who is trying to pay the debt down, OL? Besides nobody, I mean. In the sea of debt that the US and the world are floating in, another gallon or two will be added due to worldwide freakout.

MissMarple2

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-national-day-prayer-americans-affected-coronavirus-pandemic-national-response-efforts/

MissMarple2

This is the press release about the Harvard scientist and 2 Chinese nationals arrested for making false statements and smuggling viral components. He was a research fellow at Wuhan.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

This was released on January 28, but of course all of the news coverage was about the stupid impeachment circus. One can only hope that Adam Schiff gets the coronavirus.

Extraneus

Netanyahu's corruption trial postponed due to coronavirus outbreak

Jack Lillywhite

Weird!

Crows are dying off in CH and Clarice-land while we are having an influx of them at Chez Jack. But our resident hawk has recently taken exception and is keeping his roost restricted.

Another bright sunny day. Quiet too.

Buckeye

Interesting, CH--the virus decimated the crows around here, too, and I hace seen hawks circling instead.

Same here, but know we also have bald eagles.

BTW CH, Poogan works the Mrs. same way Teddy does. PITA.

Buckeye

now

GUS

Sbw. If someone believes TRUMP stopped or delayed people from being tested and they are big enough clowns to run their MOUFFFFS, then I would challenge that person. If my college Son, said something so MORONIC, I would remind him, that I raised him, and that I expect a better thought process than he is displaying to me.
Self awareness my man. If you think your shit doesn't stink, maybe you need your shit rubbed in your face.

peter

I see hawks in the weirdest places, for example, on many a street lamp mast on the Long Island Expressway in Queens. I have noticed a decline in crows. I noticed that a few years ago, then they seemed to come back, but lately there's been a second decline.

MissMarple2

Although this article was published today, a portion of it goes back to House testimony in 2018. There is also a link to various court documents.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/clinton-foundation-whistleblowers-doyle-moynihan-vs-irs

GUS

HOLY SHIT BATMAN. I just read that people are getting the FLU. Maybe this pathetic nation can go ape shit over the FLU.
It's pathetic and sad what the U.S. has become.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Crows have long been in decline around here.
Ravens OTOH, which used to be pretty much a mountain bird, are now a dime a dozen.
You can't swing a dead cat without having a raven land on it and start eating it.
I suspect they are having an effect on the turkey vulture population more than the crows.

MissMarple2

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/03/obama-holdover-obscure-government-arm-helped-cause-daniel-greenfield/

An Obama Holdover in an Obscure Government Arm Helped Cause the Country’s Coronavirus Crisis

Old Lurker

Sadly, I know that of course, Hrts. But some day when interest rates recover from ZIRP, paying the interest on government debt will have to either cause higher taxes or squeeze out other spending or both. Or just inflate it away which of course is a form of taxation in disguise.

henry

Went to the grocery store. No paper goods, no frozen vegetables, almost no meats. Plenty of fresh vegetables. Be interesting to see when everyone’s freezers / closets are full.

Jane

Porch,

You are an Ides of March girl! How cool! Happy Birthday!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I think there used to be some common law rule that if you let someone cut across your property that after 7 years of that it became a permanent right.

Posted by: jim nj | March 15, 2020 at 03:46 AM
jim nj

adverse-possession-trespassers-become-owners-

A little searching and I remembered the name.--

A small point but one I'm familiar with.
Adverse possession is the occupation and use of a property against the interests of the true owner. In most jurisdictions it requires the exclusive payment of any taxes or levies against the property and so most cases are between either co-owners or those subject to a mistake by the local tax assessor and are not too commmon.
Upon perfection the person using and paying the taxes becomes the new true owner and the other person loses their rights.

The simple use of someone elses property for a period usually of five years, most typically for ingress and egress but actually for all sorts of uses, results in a prescriptive right or prescriptive easement, which is pretty common. The owner of that right has no true ownership in the property, but a right to use it as they have in the past. The granting of documentable permission to use the property before the five year period has completed ordinarily prevents prescription since a prescriptive right must also be hostile to the owners interests.

IMO, while there is some slight logic to them, both doctrines are on the whole pernicious, because they set neighbors at each others throats and reward miscreants. Interestingly it is established law, throughout the entire US I believe, that one may not gain a prescriptive right by any use of government property. Imagine that.

clarice

In property law class we learned that adverse possession laws require fewer years in the earliest settled parts of the country than in the latest settled which makes sense. Presumably in Boston, i.e., the owner would have greater notice of the trespass than one would in Montana.

KevlarKid

Many happy returns, Porch!

Buckeye

Happy Birthday Porch!

Jim Eagle

Happy Birthday, Porch. Enjoy!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I agree there is overreaction but this isn't the flu.
Overall it appears to be about ten to twenty times as lethal as the typical flu. That's not a small amount.
And the social isolation and banning of large gatherings is how an airborne epidemic without cure or vaccine is stopped. As the Nobel dude noted; people stop getting close enough to each other to get sick until the virus runs out of hosts. That is essentially the main if not the sole reason the rate of infection finally reverses as an epidemic peaks.
So you can have a sound economy with lots of social interaction or you can have a short lived and relatively minor epidemic, but you can't have both.
There probably is considerable overkill [but that is mainly to ensure there isn't actual human overkill] and who knows where the proper dividing line is to balance the two? At some point economic damage does outweigh illness damage but the first is pretty hard to measure as against the second which has a pretty easily discerned number.

The interesting thing to consider is, the vast majority of people don't know anyone who actually has the disease. We all rely primarily on the media and the government, two of the least reputable groups imaginable, to tell us something resembling the truth to even believe something like this actually exists.
How's that for a conspiracy theory?

jimmyk

Btw, he had the H1N1 flu.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see a timeline for H1N1 lined up against the timeline (so far) for COVID-19. My sense is the death rate was perceived to be fairly high, and there ended up being 11,000 or 12,000 deaths, but in the end they decided that 50-60 million people had it, so the death rate was something like .02%. I'm wondering if this will end up similar, though maybe with smaller numbers of both cases and deaths.

Then there's the fact that there had been at least 1,000 deaths before Barry paid any attention to it.

MissMarple2

This took place in the Rose Garden, just coming out of a cold Winter! https://t.co/bjHEC9zZkC

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 15, 2020

Link goes to a tweet and photo by Dan Scavino.

Captain Hate

I saw ravens all over the place in northern Arizona in October 2016. Smart birds.

Momto2

Happy Birthday, Porch.

Our church is only holding online worship today.

My school is closed until further notice (probably will not return this spring.) It will be strange to lecture to a camera without any discussion of the literature from the students.

I used the Kroger online ordering for the first time yesterday. The soonest I can pick up my order is Tuesday afternoon! So, I assume the online ordering is becoming quite popular.

jimmyk

Happy Birthday, Porch!

Overall it appears to be about ten to twenty times as lethal as the typical flu. That's not a small amount.

As I said above, that may be hard to know, since we don't really have a good idea of the denominator. As testing is ramped up the statistical death rate will decline significantly, at least here in the US. One thing that's actually better about COVID-19 is that the deaths and serious cases do not seem to involve children or even young adults.

bubarooni

Flipping thru the channels this morning checking out covid-19 coverage.

Watched CNN's Brianna Keilor interview Fauci.

Quick paraphrase of part of interview:

KEILOR: Dr, could hundreds of thousands of Americans die from this pandemic.

FAUCI: Well, there are many mathematical simulations and I suppose under certain simulations that could happen.

KEILOR: So you are saying HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Americans could die during this pandemic!?!?

FAUCI: Well, no. I don't think that is likely

Keilor is The Stupidest Person In The World this morning.

peter

what is the difference between a raven and a crow?

Extraneus

Keilor is The Stupidest Person In The World this morning.

Or just another hack looking for a panic-stoking angle.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

The idea that the denominator will turn out to be much higher than we think it is doesn't seem too likely to me.
Were it so, presumably the disease would be found to be far more widespread than it is as time goes on, since rather than detecting and isolating most of the cases most of them would be spreading it all over.
That doesn't seem to have happened anywhere. Even in Italy it spread primarily because they probably had a large influx of diseased Chinese and Italy didn't do enough to stop it spreading during the early stages.

hrtshpdbox

Iggy, I agree that avoiding large crowds just makes common sense when any bug is around, but I still don't get the hysterical herd reactions (or whatever) of people. I read the other day that 12,000 Americans died of "influenza" in the four months from Oct 1 to Feb 1. I presume that more people are dying right now in the US from influenza than Coronavirus, but it's not a news story (or grounds to make a terrified society come to a standstill) because it happens every flu season.

clarice

Happy Birthday, Porch! Always such a pleasure to read your posts.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Crows say "caw-caw' and ravens say "grok-grok". :)
Crows are gregarious and feed mainly on grain and vegetation though they are opportunistic scavengers and will eat pretty much anything if they get a chance.
Ravens are less social, usually in pairs or small groups, and much larger. Crows are sleek, while ravens have a ruff under their throat that isn't always visible.
Ravens are a lot more omnivorous and are always on the road after road kill.
And as CH said they are amazingly smart, as are crows.
I go to a certain spot to watch the sunset and walk. There are often ravens there and they will usually start harrying Chester by dive bombing him or just flying low and lazy right over his head until he's run himself ragged trying to catch them. I'm pretty sure they're laughing at him the whole time. I know I am.

hrtshpdbox

what is the difference between a raven and a crow?

I just asked exactly that of Alexa, who replied:

"Ravens and crows are corvids, but there is no clear distinction between the two. Generally, crows are smaller than ravens."

KevlarKid

FYI Coronavirus vulnerabilities among 34.2M Americans with Type 2 diabetes....note the pre-diabetes stats.

Diabetics without effective nutritional treatments live with wholesale immune system compromise.

"Diabetes Fast Facts

Total: 34.2 million people have diabetes (10.5% of the US population)Diagnosed: 26.9 million people, including 26.8 million adultsUndiagnosed: 7.3 million people (21.4% of people with diabetes are undiagnosed)

Prediabetes Fast Facts

Total: 88 million adults aged 18 years or older have prediabetes (34.5% of the adult US population)65 years or older: 24.2 million adults aged 65 years or older have prediabetes
"
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/data/statistics/statistics-report.html

KevlarKid

Ravens and Crows - Who's Who?

Is that big black bird a crow or a raven? How can you tell? Ravens (seen right here) often travel in pairs, while crows (left) are seen in larger groups. Also, study the tail as the bird flies overhead. A crow's tail is shaped like a fan, while the raven's tail appears wedge-shaped or triangular. Another clue is to listen closely to the birds' calls. Crows give a cawing sound, but ravens produce a lower croaking sound.

https://www.birdnote.org/show/ravens-and-crows-whos-who

lyle

HB, Porch! 😙

Extraneus

American Crow vs. Common Raven

They have completely different ranges.

Crows:

Ravens:


(Click to open.)

Rocco

I'm going to wash my hands twice this morning while I sing Happy Birthday to Porch.

I used the wrong word to describe my heart attack, I didn't suffer a heart attack, I should have said, I had...

Amom, the stent was put in a diagonal artery next to the LAD at UMass Memorial in Worcester, When they did a 2nd cath a few months ago, the doc told me my stent was working fine but my LAD was calcified. He said my heart found a way to bypass the calcified LAD. I see my cardiac later this month and he may adjust the Lasix dose. I need an MRI for an optic nerve issue in my good eye but I can't lay flat on my back without struggling to breathe, my lungs fill with fluid. The only stand-up MRI facilities around these parts are in NY, but my HMO doesn't provide out of network coverage. I'm currently requesting an exception. If not my optic nerve specialist said we'll just have to monitor it. Now most of my ailments are minor compared to most, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried.

OK, enough of me, I just wanted to respond to a few posts. Thanks again everyone!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

-- but I still don't get the hysterical herd reactions --

Other than flu shots most people and society itself don't really take any particular precautions against the flu and it kills the numbers it does.
Given the ease of transmission and its lethality, if we did the same for coronavirus it would probably kill a great many more than the flu.
That apprehension driven both by the malice and the astounding imbecilities of the media and Dems would appear to be the main driver of the hysteria.

It seems to be human nature for most people, when faced with a problem, to panic and scream...and then die, if it weren't human nature for enough other people to act rationally and solve the problem.

That's a variation on the same nature that induces people to invest in things they know to be overrvalued because everyone else is.
In both cases the "greater fool" is, to paraphrase Old Abe, either all of the people some of the time or some of the people all of the time.

henry

Article on tracing Coronavirus spread in S Korea.

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

It is of note that Korea & China can trace where an infected person went via cell phone metadata. They can also tell who was there at the same time and test them.

The US has they same tech (ad services use it). Wait until public health emergencies leak to FBI via FISA fix.

Extraneus

Although I could swear I saw ravens in Key Biscayne a couple of years ago. They looked and sounded nothing like crows.

henry

@judicialwatch

BREAKING: Judicial Watch announced lawyers for #HillaryClinton/Cheryl Mills have asked the Court of Appeals to overturn a U.S. District court order granting Judicial Watch’s request for their depositions about Clinton’s emails/Benghazi attack records (1/3).

hrtshpdbox

They looked and sounded nothing like crows.

The ravens, for instance, can say "nevermore".

Melinda

Fitton vs Clinton, Inc.?

I like those odds.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

That story about that Berlin head shrinker putting kids with pedophiles he knew were going to rape them causes me to wonder if there is any societal value in digging up the bones of such people and hanging them or otherwise desecrating them in some manner as a posthumous warning to other such still living scum.
Probably not, but it might be cathartic for society.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

We have at least 6 nests of red tail hawks within about 100 yards of our house. I think the first one or two pairs have been prolific breeders the last couple of years and their offspring are setting up shop in adjoining trees.

We have to be very wary of letting the dogs out as all our dogs are 12 lbs or less.

Went to Waffle House for breakfast this morning. It usually has a 20 minute wait on Sunday mornings. This morning there were empty tables and the take out orders were very much down. I feel sorry for the food service workers.

All the churches in the area seem to be closed except the JW who had a full parking lot. I have no idea why as they usually meet on Wednesday and Friday nights and Saturday mornings and I thought did nothing on Sunday mornings.

Rocco

Crows are pretty smart

https://www.aol.com/article/2015/03/06/crow-leaves-gifts-for-kind-hearted-girl-who-feeds-them/21150541/

sbwaters

So, if I understand anti-Trump logic, Clinton/Mills appealing a higher court means they must be guilty.

Old Lurker

M22: "Our church is only holding online worship today."

Back in the day when fax machines were becoming the thing, some of my contractors thought by faxing me their bills they would get paid faster.

So when that started, I started faxing them back a picture of a check.

Can I fax my Collection Envelope to my closed church? Or to mix my metaphors, should I ask if my Episcopal Church were closed, would anyone know it?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Audubon says ravens used to be all across the east, Ext, but moved out as deforestation [maybe] occurred?
In any event they are reexpanding their range east and south.
Around here, as a kid they were seldom seen except at elevations of ~4000 feet and above, while crows were more of a central valley and lowland phenomenon.
Over the last 20-30 years ravens have expanded pretty much into all areas of CA.

Jim Eagle

According to Cornell Universities Ornithology Lab, the Common Raven (corvus corax) is the world's largest songbird. It is considered a forest bird while the American Crow (Corvus brachyrhynchos) is considered a Open Country bird.

I highley recommend their book, "Bird Songs: 250 North American Birds in Song." They have full page illustrations and short fact sheet and playback for the soud of the birds. By Lee Beletshky if you are looking it up.

anonamom

The more successful we are at flattening the curve this week--NOW-- the more "overreative" this all will look in two months.

"What was the big deal?? We never even reached capacity at our ICU!"

I want to hear that from every single poster here!

We (society) tolerate 15-40 K deaths from the flu each year because :
1. We barely notice when it happens from October through April
2. Mainly the old and infirmed. (Brutal but true)
3. You are seeing what huge economic cost there is to containing it.
4. Nowhere near as widespread among contacts, as flu puts you in bed hour two, not day 14 or 15.


Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Happy B-day Porch!

rse

Steph-

Part of the spread here in Ga was a church in cartersville area. I think that spooked a lot of people. I also discovered even most wole foods customers apparently do not know how to cook lamb shanks. One of the few meats left at opening yesterday as I went to get amy's meals for my returning vegetarian (the one who blmes trump).

I thought they were just the slow cooking thing for while I was going to and from the airport. Left hubby here with instructions to turn off both ovens at 7 and took it out when I got back.

It is weird to be home as the last sunday lunch I was not at memorycare was when I was with my mom at er more than 6 months ago.

Momto2

Just received an alert from my local officials instructing me NOT to call 911 if I :

*Need information about the Covid-19
* Need a ride to the doctor's office
* Want to get tested for the virus
* Have mild symptoms

I can only imagine what must have prompted this announcement. This validates my theory that watching hours of MSM kills brain cells.

Old Lurker

Don't forget that Italians on average are a good bit older than say France or the UK.

Melinda

OL-

Significantly older.

GUS

Crow is a dish best served cold. Tastes a bit like
bald eagle.

Rocco

Bernie Bros aren't happy.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/bernie-bros-warn-of-massive-exodus-if-democrats-nominate-joe-biden/

Jane

Rocco,

See if there is one in FL - and use it as an excuse to visit me. I'll take you!

clarice

https://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-coronavirus-fate-is-already-sealed-11584025664?mod=djemMER_h

Old Lurker

We ALL know that when we are past this and looking back, there will be zero agreement on whether we did the right thing or the wrong thing. And there will be zero appetite to buy enough ICU beds for peak needs next time.

Jane

So when that started, I started faxing them back a picture of a check.

That is simply hysterical! Kudos!

Captain Hate

And as CH said they are amazingly smart, as are crows.
I go to a certain spot to watch the sunset and walk. There are often ravens there and they will usually start harrying Chester by dive bombing him or just flying low and lazy right over his head until he's run himself ragged trying to catch them. I'm pretty sure they're laughing at him the whole time. I know I am.

I get in trouble when I start giving human attributes to wild animals but I think they like people, or are curious about us. Or see us as marks they can beg from. I stopped in some tourist trap that had a bird show that had a raven that I think had a broken wing originally. He didn't seem unhappy being there and got a lot of attention.

Extraneus

Clarice gets a hat tip from Hinderaker:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/its-not-dying-down-yet-plus-biden-fumbles.php

MissMarple2

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney

JUST IN: Former Schiff staffer tests positive for coronavirus. Left Schiff’s office 10 days ago >>>

lyle

Which is bigger, the crow or the raven? We have some enormous black birds in my state. We also have—for some inexplicable reason—magpies as a protected species...

Captain Hate

Mrs H said there are ravens around here but I think she's wrong. I haven't seen any.

henry

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BREAKING NEWS: Daniel Goldman, who led the Trump impeachment questioning by the House Intel Committee has tested positive for coronavirus.

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