Resume Social Distancing! I wonder what church attendance will look like today?
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Okay one last Raven tidbit [Bear with me, I spent a lot of times in the woods, so have seen a lot of Ravens].
Their ordinary call is a guttural squawk or grok sound.
But occasionally, especially while perched they make this really weird sound that is pretty much impossible to approximate with symbols.
While looking for a youtube of it I discovered ravens must have dialects, because while there are quite a few videos of weird raven noises, they're all quite different. This was as close as I could get but the ones around here are much more fluid. It's almost like a babbling brook coupled with those weird clicks the bushmen make when they talk. Uncanny sounding in real life.
A lonely 70 year old widow decided that it was time to marry again…
She put an ad in the local newspaper that read:
“Husband wanted! Must be in my age group, must not beat me, must not run around on me and must still be good in bed. All applicants please apply in person.”
The following day, she heard the doorbell. Much to her dismay, she opened the door to see a gray-haired gentleman sitting in a wheelchair. He had no arms or legs.
“You’re not really asking me to consider you, are you?” the widow asked: “Just look at you - you have no legs!”
The old gent smiled: “Therefore, I cannot run around on you!”
“You don’t have any arms either!” she snorted.
Again, the old man smiled: “Therefore, I can never beat you!”
She raised an eyebrow and asked intently: “Are you still good in bed?”
The old man leaned back, beamed a big smile and said: “I rang the doorbell, didn’t I?”
We ALL know that when we are past this and looking back, there will be zero agreement on whether we did the right thing or the wrong thing.
Listening to a college non student this morning, whose indie rock pet peeves against the herd align with mine at an unusually high rate, he was initially (and only then or I'd have turned him off) blasting Drumpf and praising DeRINO. Nothing about the thousand death freebie that Preznit Boyfriend was given with Swine Flu in 2009. I guess the Golden Scalpweasel doesn't get that on top of the 100 day honeymoon.
Ravens are much bigger lyle.
They're also spectacular fliers.
Took a walk on a rainy windy day a couple of years ago to a high exposed point where the wind was howling. The ravens were cartwheeling around the end of that point like a circus act.
Suzy Cohen, a pharmacist had a column in a regional newspaper for years, so I follow her website. Here's an interesting article about angiotensis II receptor blockers and their potential, as well as considering natural ARBs in your diet. She lists them in the article.
"There is another article about Telmisartan and Losartan printed in the BMJ (British Medical Journal, January 2020) entitled, Response to the Emerging Novel Coronavirus Outbreak. Based on their research, the scientists state, “we hypothesize the use of angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB) available for clinical use can be potential drugs to be given for control of viral spread of novel corona virus (Wuhan) infection.”
In my inbox, after our two hour meeting. Only fifteen minutes were devoted to donning and duffing. Duffing takes forever.
Need an aide to undress you, and someone supervising--another pair of eyes.
Not like ripping off the gown in the OR.
(Can't be done in OR--need negative pressure room, which we have in our ICU)
All, This is a fascinating 23 page report from the WHO on COVID-19, published in late February. Dr. Doe alluded to it today during the meeting and I thought it would be useful to forward to as many people as possible. It provides a wealth of information on the origin of the virus, the initial outbreak, transmission dynamics, and so on, including some excellent recommendations for control of the virus in the community as well as in the health care setting. I found page 11 of the report to be particularly helpful regarding Transmission in health care settings and among health care workers. I was struck by the effectiveness of the measures taken in keeping the number of infections in HCW's in the healthcare environment to a minimum. It appears that once they knew what they were dealing with, transmission in the health care environment became less common than via exposure to household contacts. While this does not minimize the risk, it is somewhat reassuring to me that the infection can be effectively managed in the health care setting with appropriate precautions.
It also makes me even more convinced that extreme social distancing is the only current option for mitigation and "flattening the curve." It seems they have been successful at this in China. There is no reason to think we cannot do the same in the US. Stopping elective surgery could actually serve not only the purpose of reducing exposure to patient's and HCW's, but also in capturing the public's attention and making them understand that they have a huge role to play in controlling the pandemic using simple (but no doubt inconvenient) measures. Just my opinion.
One thing I've been wondering about, last night when I was reading twitter I kept seeing really ugly and vicious comments and remarks about Trump putting Jared Kushner in charge of part of the government's efforts to contain and fight the corona virus. There was even an editorial cartoon in our local newspaper by that hateful Granlund of Kushner in an astronaut's suit carrying a test tube releasing bacteria. Really stupid. I tried to copy it here, but never have luck on images.
I don't remember reading or hearing anything about Kushner and his being tasked to manage this crisis. Do any of you know why there's this spite from the left about him?
1. They are horrible people, as Ignatz said.
2. He's an Orthodox Jew.
3. He's married to Ivanka.
4. He was rich in his own right.
5. He works in the White House for the Orange Man!
Kushner is a “j” word. The left doesn’t like those types. My guess it what Kushner does in the response is make phone calls on behalf of the administration that the key CEO’s answered. Thus coordinating the response. Note, that roll does not depend on K having any special medical knowledge. Jus a trusted conduit for the team that does have the knowledge.
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"They're inefficient ... They have people that are under authoritarian control. Think about it, the doctor that actually was the whistleblower on this ended up dead," Nunes said. "If you look back to what the Chinese did, they probably had this in the late fall, especially early winter. Instead of like calling people in and learning how to help and develop a way for us to know how to treat this, they downplayed it."
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Trump National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien did not hold back in Wednesday comments on China's responsibility for the disease.
"Unfortunately, rather than using best practices, this outbreak in Wuhan was covered up," O'Brien said at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative-leaning think tank in Washington. "There's lots of open-source reporting from China, from Chinese nationals, that the doctors involved were either silenced or put in isolation, or that sort of thing, so that the word of this virus could not get out. It probably cost the world community two months."
"When asked if its contagiousness and lethality are worse than the flu, Fauci emphatically said, “Well yes, I mean it just is, and we’ve gotta face that fact.”
“One, it’s brand new so we don’t have any prior experience about what it’s gonna do, what it’s dynamic’s gonna be,” he said. “Number 2, it spreads very easily, there’s no doubt about that. It isn’t like some of the other outbreaks that we had that just didn’t adapt itself to spread among humans. And Number 3, it’s very serious in the sense of morbidity and mortality, particularly among – and very heavily weighted -- towards individuals who are more susceptible – the elderly and those with underlying conditions.”
Fauci also repeated his prediction that things “will get worse before they get better.”
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And yet I wonder if we will think the medicine was worse than the disease when all is said and done.
A 30 something argued with me, asking "well what is a life worth?" He was shocked when I responded "we are about to find out and then you can tell me if it was worth it. (the same kid is still mad at me for asking him if more people would be happier and healthier if the earth were two degrees warmer v two degrees cooler, and who made him king to decide?"
Our daughter sent this yesterday evening. She was surprised because the university where she works has been working for weeks on prevention and preparedness. They've also suspended classes after spring break for a few weeks. The division where she works is a center for health science and research, and they have about eight to ten clinics.
I told her what anonamom has been saying, about flattening the curve, isolate, etc. I also told her to look at his picture. He looks poisoned, by hate and anger. Most of what he says follows what we've been reading, but this guy is on fire with criticism of the administration.
The article by this guy is really political -- every other piece of advice also criticizes Trump or the administration, and says 'we'll take care of this next November.'
Obama's old employee's headlines say (he also has lots of tweets up about it:
America's hospitals will be overrun with coronavirus in just EIGHT DAYS: Obama's Medicare boss issues dire warning as doctors say as many as 500,000 are already infected and 10 MILLION will need care
Andy Slavitt, former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, issued the dire warning on Twitter on Saturday
There are only 790,000 hospital beds 100,000 ICU beds total in all of the hospitals across the country
Dr. Marty Makary warned people not to believe the current figures that only 2,200 are infected
He says the true number is likely far more and that as many as half a million people already have it
Dr. Makary urged people to be more vigilant said 'we're about to experience the worst epidemic since polio'
Johns Hopkins predicts 9.6million people will need to be hospitalized and 3million will need ICU care
Doctors and nurses fear the hospital system, which is already overrun by the flu season, may buckle
In Italy, doctors are having to choose between critically ill people to treat because resources are short
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
By JENNIFER SMITH FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 10:38 EDT, 14 March 2020 | UPDATED: 19:40 EDT, 14 March 2020
Henry the funny thing is my spittle spewing Boston pal is too, and his email broadcast ended with "I am ashamed to share my religion with that punk and his wife...)
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In reading about that Chinese billionaire who disappeared for criticizing Emperor Xi, seems to me undeniable that Xi has been the worst thing that has happened to China since the monster Mao assumed his rightful place in Dante's ninth circle.
Ironically he is so hungry for power and heavy handed he may actually play a part in freeing China eventually from the communists.
Rather than the subtlety and deft touch of a Deng [who could be a monster when he needed to be = Tienanmen], Xi overplayed his hand far too soon and far too provocatively.
He has for years been demonstrating the Belt and Road initiative is a Noose and One Way Street. Ultimately I believe China will find out when a bunch of podunk nations all decide to play the Aramco game with assets you plunked down on loan to them, they have a lot more leverage than you do. It's not only the "if you owe the bank a billion, the bank has a problem" deal. It's that this borrower can kick the bank out of town and keep whatever infrastructure you paid for. And unless you're going to invade about 50 ungovernable countries at once you don't have much recourse that doesn't qualify as cutting off ones nose.
Toss on top of that the whole steal-and-grab everything in sight that globalization Peking Duck style amounted to, and China was heading for the rocks anyway.
Then top that off with this disaster, their incredible debt loads and economic imbalances and creeping totalitarianism and the still simmering issues in Hong Kong and throw it all into one pot and then add a dash of crazy ass stuff like confirming everyone's fears by claiming the US Army planted WuFlu and threatening to withhold medicines back and China is going to come out the other side of Xi's reign in a much different world. If it isn't careful and doesn't dial the bluster back a bit it may end up a large scale pariah and Hermit Kingdom all its own rather than freer. Hard to see how things don't go very differently on the other side.
--Henry the funny thing is my spittle spewing Boston pal is too, and his email broadcast ended with "I am ashamed to share my religion with that punk and his wife...)--
Subotai Bahadur; TWANLOC = Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen.
I was in a cab in Washington DC last year, and the cabbie had on a local political talk show. They were discussing Kushner's security clearance, and the people on the show were just livid that he could get such a clearance. Obviously, they only wanted their own burrowed back-stabbing traitors like Vindman to have access.
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There will be a News Conference by the CoronaVirus Task Force today at the White House, 5 P.M. @VP We are working closely with the Governors of our Country’s great States, which are a very big factor. They are working hard, along with us, to get the job properly done.....
....The USA was never set up for this, just look at the catastrophe of the H1N1 Swine Flu (Biden in charge, 17,000 people lost, very late response time), but it soon will be. Great decision to close our China, and other, borders early. Saved many lives!
--(the same kid is still mad at me for asking him if more people would be happier and healthier if the earth were two degrees warmer v two degrees cooler, and who made him king to decide?--
Now that is about as perfect a formulation and distillation of the whole shebang, right there as could be stated.
I'll sound brilliant when I use it elsewhere. :)
My son reminded me the other day when he called about the Stephen King book "The Stand" (which we both read back before King revealed himself as a communist) and said he knew how to deal with "Captain Tripps" (the name they gave the plague in that book).
From Wikipedia:
"The Stand is a postapocalyptic horror/fantasy novel by American author Stephen King. It expands upon the scenario of his earlier short story "Night Surf", and presents a detailed vision of the total breakdown of society after the accidental release of a strain of influenza that had been modified for biological warfare causes an apocalyptic pandemic, killing off over 99% of the world's population. Published in 1978, The Stand was King's fourth novel, and remains (in its "Complete & Uncut" edition) the longest stand-alone novel King has published. "
Years ago a passenger left their copy of "The Stand" on my airplane. I rarely read that genre but began reading it as I was bored during a 2-hour delay. After we landed back in ATL I handed the book to lost and found...then, I drove straight to a local bookstore to buy my own copy so I could continue reading. I still think of it when I drive through a large tunnel.
George Weigel in First Things; Doubling Down On a Bad Deal.
What a surprise; while the whole world is backing away from the tyrants in Peking, Pope Che is reaffirming the deal he made with the Chicom devil a couple of years ago.
Note this is George Weigel, the good conservative Weigel, not Dave Weigel the punchable, putrid one.
There were rumors George might be made ambassador to the Vatican awhile back. He was opposed by Cardinal McCarrick. Yeah, the guy defrocked for schtupping altar boys. If we're judged by our enemies, George is doing fine.
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So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!
Thanks, all! Weird birthday. Taught Sunday school this morning and all the kids came except three whose parents are worrywarts and assumed Sunday school would be canceled. About half the congregation stayed home, but we are an old church and many people already have compromised health.
One older gentleman in a wheelchair who expends a lot of energy getting to church every Sunday did attend, which was nice to see.
It's also spring break here in Texas so that affects church attendance when people are traveling - but of course no one is at the airports or on the roads. Reminds me of traffic patterns from 20 years ago.
I worked on a case where Jared Kushner was a defendant (he was the owner of a building where someone tripped and fell.) Every time we went to court, the judge assigned to the case, (who happened to be Jewish) would say the word, "Kushner" and get a crazed look in his eye for a second. It reminded me of some crazy old vaudeville "slowly I turned" sketch a la Three Stooges or Abbott and Costello when someone says either Niagara Falls or Susquehanna Hat Company.
We watched the first two episodes of Band of Brothers last night. Always provides good perspective.
One of the veterans interviewed at the beginning said that in his small town, three men who were 4F committed suicide because they couldn't join up. Imagine that happening today. It simply wouldn't. I have to disagree with JMH on this one.
--It reminded me of some crazy old vaudeville "slowly I turned" sketch a la Three Stooges or Abbott and Costello when someone says either Niagara Falls or Susquehanna Hat Company.--
LOL.
We may have strangely similar offbeat senses of humor peter [or we watched the same stuff] but that was hilarious.
Maybe anonomom could help me out with this question; One of those commie Chinese dudes threatened to withhold meds from us and drown Amurikkka in an ocean of coronavirus.
What are these meds he speaks of that we use to fight coronoavirus symptoms?
>>>has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!
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Happy Birthday Porch!
We just returned from a few errands. People are NOT social distancing. The restaurants we drove by had full parking lots. It is spring break in Florida,so lots of kids running around.
joan @ 12:54...that is the type of information my brother-in-law sent hubby the other day. There is a lot of Trump hate in the public health/medical community and some are using it to score points. That is why hubby returned a nasty email to his brother asking him to keep the Trump hate out of his supposed non-political information.
One of the veterans interviewed at the beginning said that in his small town, three men who were 4F committed suicide because they couldn't join up.
I don't know how it happened but in my home town someone didn't serve for whatever reason. Although nobody shunned him per se, all the vets held that against him.
And now for something completely different. Just talked to my sis who keeps at the family tree stuff and she just discovered the George Washington was a Norski! His ancestors ‘moved’, heh, to Yurvik (York) in the 11th century along with a lot of my distant relatives. Love all those early seafaring engineers. :)
Apparently George gave a metal to a soldier more recently from the old country and made special note of his heritage. Who knew?
Wasn't sure how true it is (that Italians don't really get too many abortions), so checked to see - in 1993, Italians had 9.8 abortions per 1000 live births, Americans 321 per. 32 to 1, the Catholic Church is good for something.
I know the US and others are dependent on China for pharmaceuticals and the chemicals they're based on.
My question is, just exactly what meds are actually used in the treatment of corona-corona.
Trump should pardon Flynn and reimburse him for all of his legal fees, then he should invite Flynn to apply to the court of claims for any other damages.
Whatever that tab comes to, the full amount should be subtracted from the "Bonus Pool" both agencies have for year end back pats with each other.
Then he should identify five people each at the DoJ and FBI who were in the chain of custody for all those files and summarily execute them.
You know if the US really is facing a critical shortage of antibiotic precursors maybe I should keep that block of cheddar cheese I just dug out of the fridge.
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Curious as to the records available to your sister to go back to the 11th century. Do you know the resources? I have only been able to go back to the 15th century (not me but my English cousin) from church and land records.
What Mrs. Buckeye has found is that when there is a celebrity or royalty in you lineage, it has been well researched and lots of info, although often to some degree suspect.
If it is a regular guy/gal, your take that about 15th century is the end of traceability is pretty accurate.
Shopping tip: Home Depot actually has household cleaning items on the shelves here. Hubby had to get a drill bit,so I wandered to the cleaning aisle and picked up a couple of items. Staples had pallets of water and a huge stack of paper towels.
JiB, no, she is doing more generic and recent stuff on our family. The GW thing popped out of of someone else’s efforts where he is quoted about his own family’s heritage. I only know I had kin indirectly from those days due to my DNA being exactly 75 pct Scandahuvian. Although, like nearly all from the North country, we claim descendancy from Hrolf the Ganger, who was known throughout Central Europe as Rollo the GF of William the Bastard.
It’s Mirengoff, natch, and he cites McCarthy, natch, to claim FISA is too valuable to ditch. The comments are pretty much all contrary and along the lines of “let’s see some indictments then we’ll talk.”
I think we need to revive Section 936 and empower Puerto Rico to get back into the pharmaceutical business in a huge way.Those skills are still there and it would cut our reliance on China for meds that are existential threats.
I think the Chinese have stepped in it big time. Their arrogance is palpable and can be seen around the world for what it is.
About the missing Flynn 302. It's an old FBI trick--the original 302 of the FBI interview with Tim Russert who Libby said he thought was his Plame source also went missing.
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Speaking of royalty, on my 1/4 that was early Pilgrim times, there is pretty strong linkage to the Adams boys, but there are some thin spots in that chain that could have a little body English in the interpretations. I think that is where some of the DNA cross checks can assist.
From the worldometer site. The pre-existing conditions that matter. Also males twice the mortality of females. Has age breakout as well. Link at the bottom of the page (as linked on the last thread).
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
Cardiovascular disease
13.2%
10.5%
Diabetes
9.2%
7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease
8.0%
6.3%
Hypertension
8.4%
6.0%
Cancer
7.6%
5.6%
no pre-existing conditions
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Dane Co changes the “mass gatherings” ban (again!) Now it is 50 people. That makes 3 substantial changes in 3 days. This Co. can’t seem to get its sh*t together. Also, schools closed till APRIL.
Okay one last Raven tidbit [Bear with me, I spent a lot of times in the woods, so have seen a lot of Ravens].
Their ordinary call is a guttural squawk or grok sound.
But occasionally, especially while perched they make this really weird sound that is pretty much impossible to approximate with symbols.
While looking for a youtube of it I discovered ravens must have dialects, because while there are quite a few videos of weird raven noises, they're all quite different.
This was as close as I could get but the ones around here are much more fluid. It's almost like a babbling brook coupled with those weird clicks the bushmen make when they talk. Uncanny sounding in real life.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 12:14 PM
A lonely 70 year old widow decided that it was time to marry again…
She put an ad in the local newspaper that read:
“Husband wanted! Must be in my age group, must not beat me, must not run around on me and must still be good in bed. All applicants please apply in person.”
The following day, she heard the doorbell. Much to her dismay, she opened the door to see a gray-haired gentleman sitting in a wheelchair. He had no arms or legs.
“You’re not really asking me to consider you, are you?” the widow asked: “Just look at you - you have no legs!”
The old gent smiled: “Therefore, I cannot run around on you!”
“You don’t have any arms either!” she snorted.
Again, the old man smiled: “Therefore, I can never beat you!”
She raised an eyebrow and asked intently: “Are you still good in bed?”
The old man leaned back, beamed a big smile and said: “I rang the doorbell, didn’t I?”
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | March 15, 2020 at 12:17 PM
We ALL know that when we are past this and looking back, there will be zero agreement on whether we did the right thing or the wrong thing.
Listening to a college non student this morning, whose indie rock pet peeves against the herd align with mine at an unusually high rate, he was initially (and only then or I'd have turned him off) blasting Drumpf and praising DeRINO. Nothing about the thousand death freebie that Preznit Boyfriend was given with Swine Flu in 2009. I guess the Golden Scalpweasel doesn't get that on top of the 100 day honeymoon.
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Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2020 at 12:17 PM
Ravens are much bigger lyle.
They're also spectacular fliers.
Took a walk on a rainy windy day a couple of years ago to a high exposed point where the wind was howling. The ravens were cartwheeling around the end of that point like a circus act.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM
Suzy Cohen, a pharmacist had a column in a regional newspaper for years, so I follow her website. Here's an interesting article about angiotensis II receptor blockers and their potential, as well as considering natural ARBs in your diet. She lists them in the article.
https://suzycohen.com/articles/natural-therapeutic-options-for-covid-19/
"There is another article about Telmisartan and Losartan printed in the BMJ (British Medical Journal, January 2020) entitled, Response to the Emerging Novel Coronavirus Outbreak. Based on their research, the scientists state, “we hypothesize the use of angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB) available for clinical use can be potential drugs to be given for control of viral spread of novel corona virus (Wuhan) infection.”
Posted by: joan | March 15, 2020 at 12:20 PM
Happy Birthday, Porch. Hope you have a wonderful, carefree day.
Posted by: joan | March 15, 2020 at 12:22 PM
In my inbox, after our two hour meeting. Only fifteen minutes were devoted to donning and duffing. Duffing takes forever.
Need an aide to undress you, and someone supervising--another pair of eyes.
Not like ripping off the gown in the OR.
(Can't be done in OR--need negative pressure room, which we have in our ICU)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
All, This is a fascinating 23 page report from the WHO on COVID-19, published in late February. Dr. Doe alluded to it today during the meeting and I thought it would be useful to forward to as many people as possible. It provides a wealth of information on the origin of the virus, the initial outbreak, transmission dynamics, and so on, including some excellent recommendations for control of the virus in the community as well as in the health care setting. I found page 11 of the report to be particularly helpful regarding Transmission in health care settings and among health care workers. I was struck by the effectiveness of the measures taken in keeping the number of infections in HCW's in the healthcare environment to a minimum. It appears that once they knew what they were dealing with, transmission in the health care environment became less common than via exposure to household contacts. While this does not minimize the risk, it is somewhat reassuring to me that the infection can be effectively managed in the health care setting with appropriate precautions.
It also makes me even more convinced that extreme social distancing is the only current option for mitigation and "flattening the curve." It seems they have been successful at this in China. There is no reason to think we cannot do the same in the US. Stopping elective surgery could actually serve not only the purpose of reducing exposure to patient's and HCW's, but also in capturing the public's attention and making them understand that they have a huge role to play in controlling the pandemic using simple (but no doubt inconvenient) measures. Just my opinion.
Posted by: anonamom | March 15, 2020 at 12:24 PM
One thing I've been wondering about, last night when I was reading twitter I kept seeing really ugly and vicious comments and remarks about Trump putting Jared Kushner in charge of part of the government's efforts to contain and fight the corona virus. There was even an editorial cartoon in our local newspaper by that hateful Granlund of Kushner in an astronaut's suit carrying a test tube releasing bacteria. Really stupid. I tried to copy it here, but never have luck on images.
I don't remember reading or hearing anything about Kushner and his being tasked to manage this crisis. Do any of you know why there's this spite from the left about him?
Posted by: joan | March 15, 2020 at 12:29 PM
Because they're horrible people, joan.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM
I do not know anything about Kushner specifically though, in a better answer to your question.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Joan, BOY are my NYT reading Boston pals OUTRAGED that Kushner has been given that assignment. Seeing RED I say.
I asked them if they would be happier with Zeke Emanuel and they shunned me.
:-)
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 12:41 PM
Crows recognize certain people.
Short version(1:40):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOkj7lJpeoc
Longer (22 min.) TedTalk on their research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fiAoqwsc9g
Posted by: Momto2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:45 PM
joan.
They hste him because:
1. They are horrible people, as Ignatz said.
2. He's an Orthodox Jew.
3. He's married to Ivanka.
4. He was rich in his own right.
5. He works in the White House for the Orange Man!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:47 PM
Kushner is a “j” word. The left doesn’t like those types. My guess it what Kushner does in the response is make phone calls on behalf of the administration that the key CEO’s answered. Thus coordinating the response. Note, that roll does not depend on K having any special medical knowledge. Jus a trusted conduit for the team that does have the knowledge.
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 12:49 PM
Miss M, bingo on #2; the globalist pro-Palestine left hates him chiefly because of that.
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Great Job by Judicial Watch. Potentially a treasure trove. Too bad you are not given more help, but it will all work out!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:51 PM
Nunes slams China on handling of coronavirus: 'They downplayed it'
Posted by: Extraneus | March 15, 2020 at 12:52 PM
This is where Fauci agrees with Iggy:
"When asked if its contagiousness and lethality are worse than the flu, Fauci emphatically said, “Well yes, I mean it just is, and we’ve gotta face that fact.”
“One, it’s brand new so we don’t have any prior experience about what it’s gonna do, what it’s dynamic’s gonna be,” he said. “Number 2, it spreads very easily, there’s no doubt about that. It isn’t like some of the other outbreaks that we had that just didn’t adapt itself to spread among humans. And Number 3, it’s very serious in the sense of morbidity and mortality, particularly among – and very heavily weighted -- towards individuals who are more susceptible – the elderly and those with underlying conditions.”
Fauci also repeated his prediction that things “will get worse before they get better.”
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And yet I wonder if we will think the medicine was worse than the disease when all is said and done.
A 30 something argued with me, asking "well what is a life worth?" He was shocked when I responded "we are about to find out and then you can tell me if it was worth it. (the same kid is still mad at me for asking him if more people would be happier and healthier if the earth were two degrees warmer v two degrees cooler, and who made him king to decide?"
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 12:52 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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1h
TODAY IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. GOD BLESS EVERYONE!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:53 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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1h
I am watching a great and beautiful service by Pastor Jentezen Franklin. Thank you! @Jentezen
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:54 PM
Our daughter sent this yesterday evening. She was surprised because the university where she works has been working for weeks on prevention and preparedness. They've also suspended classes after spring break for a few weeks. The division where she works is a center for health science and research, and they have about eight to ten clinics.
I told her what anonamom has been saying, about flattening the curve, isolate, etc. I also told her to look at his picture. He looks poisoned, by hate and anger. Most of what he says follows what we've been reading, but this guy is on fire with criticism of the administration.
The article by this guy is really political -- every other piece of advice also criticizes Trump or the administration, and says 'we'll take care of this next November.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8112063/America-braces-coronvirus-collapse-100-00-ICU-beds-10-MILLION-hospitalized.html
Obama's old employee's headlines say (he also has lots of tweets up about it:
America's hospitals will be overrun with coronavirus in just EIGHT DAYS: Obama's Medicare boss issues dire warning as doctors say as many as 500,000 are already infected and 10 MILLION will need care
Andy Slavitt, former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, issued the dire warning on Twitter on Saturday
There are only 790,000 hospital beds 100,000 ICU beds total in all of the hospitals across the country
Dr. Marty Makary warned people not to believe the current figures that only 2,200 are infected
He says the true number is likely far more and that as many as half a million people already have it
Dr. Makary urged people to be more vigilant said 'we're about to experience the worst epidemic since polio'
Johns Hopkins predicts 9.6million people will need to be hospitalized and 3million will need ICU care
Doctors and nurses fear the hospital system, which is already overrun by the flu season, may buckle
In Italy, doctors are having to choose between critically ill people to treat because resources are short
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
By JENNIFER SMITH FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 10:38 EDT, 14 March 2020 | UPDATED: 19:40 EDT, 14 March 2020
Posted by: joan | March 15, 2020 at 12:54 PM
Henry "Kushner is a “j” word."
Henry the funny thing is my spittle spewing Boston pal is too, and his email broadcast ended with "I am ashamed to share my religion with that punk and his wife...)
Not kidding.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 12:55 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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We are doing very precise Medical Screenings at our airports. Pardon the interruptions and delays, we are moving as quickly as possible, but it is very important that we be vigilant and careful. We must get it right. Safety first!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 12:55 PM
Just checking the NEWS, and guess what???!!!!!
Yep. Some people have the flu.
Posted by: GUS | March 15, 2020 at 12:58 PM
In reading about that Chinese billionaire who disappeared for criticizing Emperor Xi, seems to me undeniable that Xi has been the worst thing that has happened to China since the monster Mao assumed his rightful place in Dante's ninth circle.
Ironically he is so hungry for power and heavy handed he may actually play a part in freeing China eventually from the communists.
Rather than the subtlety and deft touch of a Deng [who could be a monster when he needed to be = Tienanmen], Xi overplayed his hand far too soon and far too provocatively.
He has for years been demonstrating the Belt and Road initiative is a Noose and One Way Street. Ultimately I believe China will find out when a bunch of podunk nations all decide to play the Aramco game with assets you plunked down on loan to them, they have a lot more leverage than you do. It's not only the "if you owe the bank a billion, the bank has a problem" deal. It's that this borrower can kick the bank out of town and keep whatever infrastructure you paid for. And unless you're going to invade about 50 ungovernable countries at once you don't have much recourse that doesn't qualify as cutting off ones nose.
Toss on top of that the whole steal-and-grab everything in sight that globalization Peking Duck style amounted to, and China was heading for the rocks anyway.
Then top that off with this disaster, their incredible debt loads and economic imbalances and creeping totalitarianism and the still simmering issues in Hong Kong and throw it all into one pot and then add a dash of crazy ass stuff like confirming everyone's fears by claiming the US Army planted WuFlu and threatening to withhold medicines back and China is going to come out the other side of Xi's reign in a much different world. If it isn't careful and doesn't dial the bluster back a bit it may end up a large scale pariah and Hermit Kingdom all its own rather than freer. Hard to see how things don't go very differently on the other side.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 12:58 PM
I asked them if they would be happier with Zeke Emanuel and they shunned me.
Outstanding response.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2020 at 12:59 PM
Hey GUS, Henry offered to list them name by name as they come in... Said he was bored or something.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 12:59 PM
Ignatz,
An even larger demonstration of President Trump's super-power: the ability to make enemies reveal themselves as to their true character.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 01:03 PM
--Henry the funny thing is my spittle spewing Boston pal is too, and his email broadcast ended with "I am ashamed to share my religion with that punk and his wife...)--
Subotai Bahadur; TWANLOC = Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 01:04 PM
I was in a cab in Washington DC last year, and the cabbie had on a local political talk show. They were discussing Kushner's security clearance, and the people on the show were just livid that he could get such a clearance. Obviously, they only wanted their own burrowed back-stabbing traitors like Vindman to have access.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 15, 2020 at 01:05 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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There will be a News Conference by the CoronaVirus Task Force today at the White House, 5 P.M. @VP We are working closely with the Governors of our Country’s great States, which are a very big factor. They are working hard, along with us, to get the job properly done.....
....The USA was never set up for this, just look at the catastrophe of the H1N1 Swine Flu (Biden in charge, 17,000 people lost, very late response time), but it soon will be. Great decision to close our China, and other, borders early. Saved many lives!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 01:05 PM
CH, 12:59 about OL.
Yes, I agree -- I should have said something too.
Old Lurker, I read your post three times because I enjoyed it so much. Great response. Wish I had your quick, sharp wit.
I also wish I had yours, CH.
:)
Posted by: joan | March 15, 2020 at 01:05 PM
--(the same kid is still mad at me for asking him if more people would be happier and healthier if the earth were two degrees warmer v two degrees cooler, and who made him king to decide?--
Now that is about as perfect a formulation and distillation of the whole shebang, right there as could be stated.
I'll sound brilliant when I use it elsewhere. :)
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 01:08 PM
Happy Birthday Porch!
Sat down and tried to watch The Andromeda Strain last night. Fell asleep. This is roughly equivalent to my reaction to Kung Flu.
Posted by: Soylent Red | March 15, 2020 at 01:13 PM
My son reminded me the other day when he called about the Stephen King book "The Stand" (which we both read back before King revealed himself as a communist) and said he knew how to deal with "Captain Tripps" (the name they gave the plague in that book).
From Wikipedia:
"The Stand is a postapocalyptic horror/fantasy novel by American author Stephen King. It expands upon the scenario of his earlier short story "Night Surf", and presents a detailed vision of the total breakdown of society after the accidental release of a strain of influenza that had been modified for biological warfare causes an apocalyptic pandemic, killing off over 99% of the world's population. Published in 1978, The Stand was King's fourth novel, and remains (in its "Complete & Uncut" edition) the longest stand-alone novel King has published. "
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 01:19 PM
Joan "Wish I had your quick, sharp wit.
I also wish I had yours, CH."
Careful what you wish for, Joan.
Our wits get us both in trouble regularly. Sometimes with each other if you can believe that.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 01:26 PM
Years ago a passenger left their copy of "The Stand" on my airplane. I rarely read that genre but began reading it as I was bored during a 2-hour delay. After we landed back in ATL I handed the book to lost and found...then, I drove straight to a local bookstore to buy my own copy so I could continue reading. I still think of it when I drive through a large tunnel.
Posted by: Momto2 | March 15, 2020 at 01:31 PM
George Weigel in First Things;
Doubling Down On a Bad Deal.
What a surprise; while the whole world is backing away from the tyrants in Peking, Pope Che is reaffirming the deal he made with the Chicom devil a couple of years ago.
Note this is George Weigel, the good conservative Weigel, not Dave Weigel the punchable, putrid one.
There were rumors George might be made ambassador to the Vatican awhile back. He was opposed by Cardinal McCarrick. Yeah, the guy defrocked for schtupping altar boys. If we're judged by our enemies, George is doing fine.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 01:35 PM
Donald J. Trump
Just now ·
So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!
Posted by: clarice | March 15, 2020 at 01:36 PM
JetBlue Airline Bans Passenger FOR LIFE After He Flies While Waiting Results for Coronavirus Test — And His Test Was Positive
Posted by: Extraneus | March 15, 2020 at 01:36 PM
Is it wrong to cheer?
Posted by: Jane | March 15, 2020 at 01:41 PM
Happy birthday porch.
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 01:43 PM
Thanks, all! Weird birthday. Taught Sunday school this morning and all the kids came except three whose parents are worrywarts and assumed Sunday school would be canceled. About half the congregation stayed home, but we are an old church and many people already have compromised health.
One older gentleman in a wheelchair who expends a lot of energy getting to church every Sunday did attend, which was nice to see.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2020 at 01:44 PM
Why ban the guy when they could have opened the door and tossed him out over the Atlantic?
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | March 15, 2020 at 01:46 PM
Ben Rhodes, now there is a SECURITY EXPERT.
Posted by: GUS | March 15, 2020 at 01:49 PM
It's also spring break here in Texas so that affects church attendance when people are traveling - but of course no one is at the airports or on the roads. Reminds me of traffic patterns from 20 years ago.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2020 at 01:50 PM
I worked on a case where Jared Kushner was a defendant (he was the owner of a building where someone tripped and fell.) Every time we went to court, the judge assigned to the case, (who happened to be Jewish) would say the word, "Kushner" and get a crazed look in his eye for a second. It reminded me of some crazy old vaudeville "slowly I turned" sketch a la Three Stooges or Abbott and Costello when someone says either Niagara Falls or Susquehanna Hat Company.
Posted by: peter | March 15, 2020 at 01:52 PM
We watched the first two episodes of Band of Brothers last night. Always provides good perspective.
One of the veterans interviewed at the beginning said that in his small town, three men who were 4F committed suicide because they couldn't join up. Imagine that happening today. It simply wouldn't. I have to disagree with JMH on this one.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2020 at 01:54 PM
That was true in hacksaw ridge as well, why desmond doss volunteered wven though he couldnt take a life.
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 01:56 PM
--It reminded me of some crazy old vaudeville "slowly I turned" sketch a la Three Stooges or Abbott and Costello when someone says either Niagara Falls or Susquehanna Hat Company.--
LOL.
We may have strangely similar offbeat senses of humor peter [or we watched the same stuff] but that was hilarious.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 01:58 PM
Abortion clinics shutting down all over Europe. Abortions down 95% in Italy. I guess abortion isn't healthcare after all.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2020 at 02:03 PM
The novel is very footnoted, as is crictons wont.
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 02:09 PM
Maybe anonomom could help me out with this question; One of those commie Chinese dudes threatened to withhold meds from us and drown Amurikkka in an ocean of coronavirus.
What are these meds he speaks of that we use to fight coronoavirus symptoms?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 02:10 PM
It is told through a series of reports
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 02:10 PM
I think its the raw materiald for these chemicals largely
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 02:13 PM
Then again who thought they would manufacturing zantac anywhere near industrial chemicals
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 02:19 PM
happy birthday porchlight.
always great to read your comments here.
Posted by: rich | March 15, 2020 at 02:19 PM
>>>has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!
Posted by: clarice | March 15, 2020 at 01:36 PM<<<
is that real?
Posted by: rich | March 15, 2020 at 02:20 PM
https://www.cfr.org/blog/us-dependence-pharmaceutical-products-china
Posted by: clarice | March 15, 2020 at 02:22 PM
Happy Birthday Porch!
We just returned from a few errands. People are NOT social distancing. The restaurants we drove by had full parking lots. It is spring break in Florida,so lots of kids running around.
joan @ 12:54...that is the type of information my brother-in-law sent hubby the other day. There is a lot of Trump hate in the public health/medical community and some are using it to score points. That is why hubby returned a nasty email to his brother asking him to keep the Trump hate out of his supposed non-political information.
Posted by: Marlene | March 15, 2020 at 02:23 PM
One of the veterans interviewed at the beginning said that in his small town, three men who were 4F committed suicide because they couldn't join up.
I don't know how it happened but in my home town someone didn't serve for whatever reason. Although nobody shunned him per se, all the vets held that against him.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2020 at 02:32 PM
This is the real vector
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2020/03/15/dr-fauci-tells-cnn-get-real-their-microphone-freak-out
Posted by: Narciso | March 15, 2020 at 02:33 PM
Beware the Birthday of Porchlight.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 15, 2020 at 02:34 PM
Happy Birthdsy Porch!
Have a wonderful, restful day.
You deserve it.
Enjoy your posts very much.
Posted by: D | March 15, 2020 at 02:34 PM
Should be Birthday
Posted by: D | March 15, 2020 at 02:35 PM
Yes, that tweet is real.
Posted by: clarice | March 15, 2020 at 02:35 PM
And now for something completely different. Just talked to my sis who keeps at the family tree stuff and she just discovered the George Washington was a Norski! His ancestors ‘moved’, heh, to Yurvik (York) in the 11th century along with a lot of my distant relatives. Love all those early seafaring engineers. :)
Apparently George gave a metal to a soldier more recently from the old country and made special note of his heritage. Who knew?
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | March 15, 2020 at 02:40 PM
Happy birthday, Porch. So glad we got to celebrate it with you last year. (Who has the photos?)
Posted by: caro | March 15, 2020 at 02:40 PM
Thank you everyone!
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2020 at 02:41 PM
Posted by: JM Hanes | March 15, 2020 at 02:41 PM
Abortions down 95% in Italy.
Wasn't sure how true it is (that Italians don't really get too many abortions), so checked to see - in 1993, Italians had 9.8 abortions per 1000 live births, Americans 321 per. 32 to 1, the Catholic Church is good for something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Italy#Abortion_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | March 15, 2020 at 02:43 PM
I think Trump pardons Flynn, commutes Manafort, maybe even offers deals to Assange and Snowden (I know, tres conterverse'), day after election.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | March 15, 2020 at 02:47 PM
This guy at Harry's Garage is one of my favorite car guys. A limey in the UK. Very sensible but loves primarily nonsensible cars.
In any event; his interesting take on an extended trip in a Tesla Model 3.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 02:51 PM
I know the US and others are dependent on China for pharmaceuticals and the chemicals they're based on.
My question is, just exactly what meds are actually used in the treatment of corona-corona.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 02:53 PM
"Lost" the records at the DoJ and the FBI?
Right.
Sure.
Trump should pardon Flynn and reimburse him for all of his legal fees, then he should invite Flynn to apply to the court of claims for any other damages.
Whatever that tab comes to, the full amount should be subtracted from the "Bonus Pool" both agencies have for year end back pats with each other.
Then he should identify five people each at the DoJ and FBI who were in the chain of custody for all those files and summarily execute them.
Wha?
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 15, 2020 at 03:07 PM
You know if the US really is facing a critical shortage of antibiotic precursors maybe I should keep that block of cheddar cheese I just dug out of the fridge.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 03:12 PM
Retweeted by the President, along with this comment:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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The Fake and Corrupt News never called Google. They said this was not true. Even in times such as these, they are not truthful. Watch for their apology, it won’t happen. More importantly, thank you to Google!
Google Communications
@Google_Comms
“We are fully aligned and continue to work with the US Government to contain the spread of COVID-19, inform citizens, and protect the health of our communities. (1/6)
Complete thread from Google:
https://twitter.com/Google_Comms/status/1238989156610707456
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 03:13 PM
And then he should appoint Flynn Intelligence Czar with a mandate to slash the throat of every punk that railroaded him.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | March 15, 2020 at 03:14 PM
@cnbc
Amazon says it's out of stock of household items due to coronavirus demand
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 03:14 PM
MT,
Curious as to the records available to your sister to go back to the 11th century. Do you know the resources? I have only been able to go back to the 15th century (not me but my English cousin) from church and land records.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | March 15, 2020 at 03:16 PM
Iggy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32023685
From a Chinese paper dated Feb 5, so somewhat dated.
Posted by: Buckeye | March 15, 2020 at 03:20 PM
JiB
What Mrs. Buckeye has found is that when there is a celebrity or royalty in you lineage, it has been well researched and lots of info, although often to some degree suspect.
If it is a regular guy/gal, your take that about 15th century is the end of traceability is pretty accurate.
Posted by: Buckeye | March 15, 2020 at 03:25 PM
At least for Britain.
Posted by: Buckeye | March 15, 2020 at 03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/fritzhahn/status/1239248284130201602
DC government laid down rules for bars and restaurants.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 03:28 PM
Shopping tip: Home Depot actually has household cleaning items on the shelves here. Hubby had to get a drill bit,so I wandered to the cleaning aisle and picked up a couple of items. Staples had pallets of water and a huge stack of paper towels.
Posted by: Marlene | March 15, 2020 at 03:29 PM
Hunter Biden hardest hit.
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 03:29 PM
JiB, no, she is doing more generic and recent stuff on our family. The GW thing popped out of of someone else’s efforts where he is quoted about his own family’s heritage. I only know I had kin indirectly from those days due to my DNA being exactly 75 pct Scandahuvian. Although, like nearly all from the North country, we claim descendancy from Hrolf the Ganger, who was known throughout Central Europe as Rollo the GF of William the Bastard.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | March 15, 2020 at 03:32 PM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/fisa-reform-real-and-imagined.php
It’s Mirengoff, natch, and he cites McCarthy, natch, to claim FISA is too valuable to ditch. The comments are pretty much all contrary and along the lines of “let’s see some indictments then we’ll talk.”
Posted by: lyle | March 15, 2020 at 03:32 PM
Hey Porch! All the best!
I think we need to revive Section 936 and empower Puerto Rico to get back into the pharmaceutical business in a huge way.Those skills are still there and it would cut our reliance on China for meds that are existential threats.
I think the Chinese have stepped in it big time. Their arrogance is palpable and can be seen around the world for what it is.
Posted by: matt - deplore me if you must | March 15, 2020 at 03:34 PM
About the missing Flynn 302. It's an old FBI trick--the original 302 of the FBI interview with Tim Russert who Libby said he thought was his Plame source also went missing.
Posted by: clarice | March 15, 2020 at 03:35 PM
The benefits of national healthcare.
COMING TO THE U.S. SOON: Austria bans all gatherings of more than five people: People allowed out of homes only for work, food shopping and helping others.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/361510/
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 03:38 PM
Here we go
U.S. Army
@USArmy
Here are details on the new
@DeptofDefense
domestic travel restrictions, March 16 to May 11, for service members, DoD civilians, & their families assigned to DoD installations, facilities & surrounding areas within the United States & its territories.
Statement by the Department of Defense on Domestic Travel Restrictions
The Deputy Secretary of Defense David L. Norquist approved new travel restrictions for service members, DoD civilians, and their families assigned to DoD installations, facilities and surrounding
defense.gov
Posted by: lurkersusie | March 15, 2020 at 03:39 PM
clarice,
That is why I want ALL interviews recorded. I cannot believe this hasn't come up. That would be my #1 requirement for the FBI to stay in existence.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 03:40 PM
I am very grateful to have a computer and internet connections here.
I wouldn't know what in the hell was going on if I had to depend on television - even Fox News, which has deteriorated quite a bit.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 03:43 PM
Speaking of royalty, on my 1/4 that was early Pilgrim times, there is pretty strong linkage to the Adams boys, but there are some thin spots in that chain that could have a little body English in the interpretations. I think that is where some of the DNA cross checks can assist.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | March 15, 2020 at 03:44 PM
Video at the link.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | March 15, 2020 at 03:45 PM
From the worldometer site. The pre-existing conditions that matter. Also males twice the mortality of females. Has age breakout as well. Link at the bottom of the page (as linked on the last thread).
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
Cardiovascular disease
13.2%
10.5%
Diabetes
9.2%
7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease
8.0%
6.3%
Hypertension
8.4%
6.0%
Cancer
7.6%
5.6%
no pre-existing conditions
0.9%
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 03:49 PM
Fifty years ago
https://thebluemoment.com/2020/03/15/tammi-terrell-1945-1970/
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2020 at 03:52 PM
Happy Birthday, Porchlight. Having met you at a NYC meetup, I know what a wonderful person you are, and always enjoy reading your posts here.
Posted by: peter | March 15, 2020 at 03:59 PM
@vickimckenna
Dane Co changes the “mass gatherings” ban (again!) Now it is 50 people. That makes 3 substantial changes in 3 days. This Co. can’t seem to get its sh*t together. Also, schools closed till APRIL.
Posted by: henry | March 15, 2020 at 04:03 PM