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March 26, 2020

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Melinda

Good morning!

Another Bob

Semi-willowed...

About that vent shortage?

https://www.prismahealth.org/VESper/

henry

Nice pointer.

Extraneus

Still no data on the malaria drug?

Buckeye

I know one thing, I’m getting tired of waking up in a foul mood.

henry

3.28 million new jobless. Way to manufacture a crisis. We are within inches of becoming Venezuela.

Buckeye

Still no data on the malaria drug?

They are still working on securing the needed supplies for the elite.

“Nothing to see here, move along”

Another Bob

Government-dictated unemployment.

Nobody should be surprised by this.

rse

Oh. My.

Topic #2: Making a powerful case for the role of government
To come through this crisis we need governments to act. There are actions that only governments can take - and our communications can shape a robust mandate for this critical leadership.

An effective narrative about government responsibility is also a powerful antidote to us-vs-them thinking.

If government responsibility goes off the radar, we fail to get the action we need - and stigmatized groups can quickly become targets. Our narratives can help prevent simmering ageist or xenophobic resentments from boiling over into full-blown questioning of which lives are worth saving and at what cost.

But government responsibility is also a topic we must navigate carefully. When people see governments as wholly useless or corrupt, it perpetuates inaction and drives disengagement. A singular focus on partisanship, special interests, or dissatisfaction with elected leaders can obscure the potential for an effective government response. When we trigger the idea that government is all about the people in power, it's harder to focus attention on the powerful structures that we have, and need, to mount an effective response.

MissMarple2

Kudos to ⁦@JordanSchachtel⁩ for exposing this fraud several days ago. Ferguson walking back his outlandish and unsubstantiated death claims—now worries that his predictions will cause massive economic damage: https://t.co/0yCVGWTMiU

— Julie Kelly (@julie_kelly2) March 26, 2020

Link goes to article in the New Scientist, where the figures are walked back.

James D.

Rse, that is utterly horrifying. Where is that quote from?

peter

TOM MAGUIRE! that video made me LOL!

peter

Regarding sharing a ventilator with three other patients, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be hooked up to three other dying patients. Ventilators are nasty super Petri dishes of germs that need to be cleaned periodically.

rse

It is from the Frameworks Institute, but checking their funding shows just how politically connected their support is. Here's more as it shows this really is the excuse for the politically organized society Ervin Laszlo aid out in the early 70s as the 'organized society' in a book I have published in the Netherlands but applicable to the West. The Soviets called it Upravleniye.

Here are three framing strategies that can help us lead a more productive conversation about the mission, role, and responsibility of governments at this crucial time.

Emphasize that we need and deserve a robust public response to this crisis.

Talk about what governments can and must do. Be clear that government action is do-able and in line with how our society can and should function.

Instead of starting and ending with government failure
"Our government is failing all of us and the most vulnerable will pay the biggest price. There is no concerted plan, dangerously unclear guidance, and crushingly inadequate support for those in most need. This is no time for politics as usual but we're seeing again and again that today's leaders are not up to the job."

Hold government accountable. Call leaders to action.
"We all rely on government leadership and action to keep our society going. Our leaders must take immediate action to slow the spread of the virus and mobilize the medical equipment and supplies needed to keep us all safe. And they must lead us all through the problems that lie ahead, using the best tools humanity has to rebuild our societies."

rse

2. Be clear that government action has a distinct role - different from the things businesses, nonprofits, or individuals can do.
The term "government," on its own, can spark mistrust, fear, or ridicule. It helps to pair the term government with a description of how it should act - as a protector, a long-term planner, or as the people's voice.

Instead of calling for others to fill in the gaps
"Businesses must step up, do the right thing, and look for how they can provide a product or service that fills our new needs. To protect the elderly and frail, the young and strong must put personal desires and fears aside, avoiding the temptation to stockpile food or take unnecessary outings. And we all must do what we can to support our heroic doctors and nurses - whether that's staying at home, donating supplies, or sewing protective masks."

Emphasize the roles and democratic ideals that only government can fulfill
"We are all relying on our public institutions to protect us from physical harm and economic hardship during this pandemic. Businesses, nonprofits, and individuals can all play a part, but only government can channel public resources into the things we all need like vaccines or ventilators. Only government can set and enforce the rules that keep us all safe and well. We need action that makes the biggest difference for everyone and this must be led by government."

Buckeye

A “little birdie” told me that the testing needs for the US are already being met.

Bottlenecks are mostly at the processing centers and are being worked out quickly.

The tests that Abbott developed over the last few weeks are being shipped to the UK instead of here where they are not really needed.

BTW, they are being manufactured in China.

rse

3. Don't play the individual blame game. Instead, call leaders to action.
Avoid activating a sense that our leaders are too inept or self-serving to trust. Instead, focus on the concrete actions that specific agencies or jurisdictions can and must take now for the common good. Once attention is focused on specific elected officials, the conversation quickly shifts away from collective action and gets stuck in politics-as-usual.

Instead of talking about personalities, politicians, or politics
"Unfortunately, our current leader is more focused on protecting his reputation than he is on protecting public health. And the rest of the party is going along with it. In the end, the very voters that put him in office will be the ones who suffer the most from this pandemic. It will be interesting to see how this turns out when - or if - the next election is held."

Focus on the actions that citizens should hold government accountable for
"We all need our governments to respond swiftly to new information about the virus and act quickly to protect us. We call on agencies at every level of government to deploy every policy tool at their disposal - and to do it now. And we call on citizens to stay informed, stay engaged, and hold their representatives accountable for doing the right thing."
About this series
In this uniquely challenging moment, we need to connect people to the bigger picture. We need ways to explain health, enhance community, and offer hope.

We're pulling guidance from twenty years of framing research and practice to help advocates and experts be heard and understood in a time of global crisis. Every few days, we'll share a few ideas that can help us all amplify the values of justice, inclusion, and interdependence.

Never let a crisis go to waste should be amended to say "any excuse to create one".

rse

Buckeye-

Red was sharing stories yesterday of symptomatic people her age with known links to people in the hospital with covid diagnoses who cannot get tested. Lots of anger that if they were in congress or pro basketball players they could.

Jane

We need to never elect another politician. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/23/gov-andrew-cuomo-announces-start-of-chloroquine-test-trials-in-new-york-state-to-treat-coronavirus/

Buckeye

rse

The mandates coming from the gummint are highly suspect.

The interpretation of those mandates leaves much to be desired.

Yes, there are bottlenecks.

How many ways to spell clusterfuck?

Another Bob

“Regarding sharing a ventilator”

I’m pretty sure they’d have accounted for that Peter. Vents are already valved to keep the air moving only in the intended directions, and filtered where needed.

Extraneus

That NY thing was 3 days ago. The French paper showed % of cured people starting the 2nd day after the drugs were administered. That would have been today for the NY clinical trial, but others were taking the drugs before that. Where is the data?

Another Bob

Re. the stock market: Time to buy? Gut is telling me it might me.

Another Bob

be.

Extraneus

Actually data should have showed something yesterday in NY. Either some people are being cured or they aren't. Very suspicious that nobody's saying.

rse

From ed groups inviting a virtual learning summit:

The Coronavirus has changed the attitudes and behavior of society overnight. And while the global pandemic will eventually be extinguished, the shift of the way people, business, and government go about doing things is likely changed forever.

We’re moving from B.C. to A.D….
”Before Coronavirus, After Disease”

Join GSV, Minerva, and a distinguished group of thought leaders in an important and timely program around the accelerated role of online learning in our New World:

Sal Khan
CEO, Khan Academy

Paul LeBlanc
President, Southern New Hampshire University

Marni Baker Stein
Provost & Chief Academic Officer, Western Governors University

Ted Mitchell
former U.S. Undersecretary of Education

Sam Chaudhary
CEO, Class Dojo

Ben Nelson
CEO, Minerva

plus more speakers to follow…

Being Digital has been a Megatrend for 30 years, and online learning has gone from a concept to a $100 billion industry. The fundamentals of the Knowledge Economy and Digital Infrastructure have been in place to see a massive market evolve—with COVID-19 clearly a catalyst for the market exploding right now.

Converging technologies such as video, 5G, artificial intelligence, virtual reality, blockchain, and collaboration tools provide a way to reimagine how people learn—which, in many ways, can be superior to the traditional physical model.

We had the World before Coronavirus. And we will have a New World after this challenge subsides. While we are all going through a turbulent storm right now, over the horizon is the Dawn of a New Age with great promise. The future is here.

MissMarple2

Our garbage media.

Sometimes I think POTUS takes their asinine questions just so Americans can see how worthless they really are.
pic.twitter.com/YmcfwBxZIx

— Trump 2020 Landslide Victory (@Sunrise51052) March 26, 2020

Video at link. I would like to know who this reporter works for.

Buckeye

The bad thing about telemed, is the doctor can’t really verify what the patient says.

BIL supervising testing center in Cincy says there are still lots of hypochondriacs showing up who clearly conned their Dr.

henry

System Error: wrong future.

rse

The so-called 'traditional physical model' doesn't allow the option of virtual reality immersion with the experience and images being whatever has been coded to create the desired beliefs and attitudes on how the world works or can be made to so that the Frameworks vision can ensue.

Connected funding plus ties to those not so conservative think tanks.

henry

Buckeye, mandatory Apple Watch 24x7x365 monitoring will fix that. To save grandma. Tim Cook and China win.

Buckeye

Re. the stock market: Time to buy? Gut is telling me it might me.

Since many of us never “unbought”, I promise not to be too picky.

Sometime within my remaining lifetime would be helpful:)

henry

@johnsolomonreports

Exclusive: How federal scientists for more than a decade skipped clinical trials on drugs line chloroquine that showed promise in past coronavirus outbreaks. ‘A lot of opportunities were squandered,’ key researcher admits.

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports/status/1243163741031739392?s=21

Extraneus

Bahrain, Belgium report coronavirus treatment touted by Trump is working for patients

No data.

Buckeye

henry

When I was a kid my mom insisted on using a rectal thermometer. She insisted it was the only thing that was accurate.

Maybe Apple could offer a bluetooth version:)

Melinda

Poll flip time:

https://twitter.com/LoriLorisuew/status/1243134287005847553

henry

Effective treatment negates the need for the porkulus. Thus no data until after the cash is spent and vig secured.

henry

Buckeye, an Apple Buttolug? Somehow that’s appropriate.

MissMarple2

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/gop-rightly-blocked-nancy-pelosis-mail-in-balloting-nonsense

Narciso

Can we call in an airstrike on the frameworks institute, fuel air explosive.?

henry

CNBC guy setting narrative - Trump evil for giving hope. We will never see treatment results, too inconvenient:

New: Trump's claim that drugs — chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine — could be a potential treatment for the coronavirus gives hope, but scientists and infectious disease experts say it may be a bit premature. cnbc.com/2020/03/26/tru… #COVID19 #Coronavirus

https://twitter.com/berkeleyjr/status/1243169660742389761?s=21

rse

Or this?

There has never been more need and more opportunity for a new kind of education system to emerge from these incredibly trying times.

In this moment, what if we let the humanity of our kids, families, and communities guide us? Rather than relying on an educational system that selects a narrow range of standardized knowledge every child in this country must be filled with, what if we put trust in a young person’s natural curiosities, help strengthen their self-confidence in pursuing their interests, and honor the unique journeys of each individual learner?

The conventional school day was not designed to enable kids to explore curiosities, develop real world skills, contribute to solving real world problems, be lifelong learners, or connect young people with rich networks of adults in their community and beyond. But, it could be.

She has ties to aft and nea and spoke at the bipartisan leadership summit in 2015 on capitol hill that soros helped fund.

From https://medium.com/education-reimagined/covid-19-an-invitation-to-pause-reflect-and-embrace-the-power-of-community-9f522634df1

henry

Lung protector in test.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/Houston-researchers-test-lung-inhalant-that-could-15151348.php

MissMarple2

https://townhall.com/columnists/natalieharp/2020/03/25/president-trump-saved-my-life-and-he-can-save-millions-more-n2565708

Column written by the girl whose life was saved by "Right to Try" and who is asking why suddenly there are all of these people casting fear on trying the malaria cocktail.

Jane

I know one thing, I’m getting tired of waking up in a foul mood.

Buckeye, you need Happy Coffee!

https://elevacity.com/smartcoffeeshopnow

Narciso

Honestly you want go ed 209 on these people.

Tom Maguire

Re: "Actually data should have showed something yesterday in NY. Either some people are being cured or they aren't. Very suspicious that nobody's saying."

The trials began Tuesday. The French protocol was ten days. Patience!

One Twitter anecdote (a guy I trust trusted it, but who knows) said a patient felt great one day later. In what ought to be a double-blind trial!

FWIW, the media has really leaned into making Trump the owner of this drug. IF it is effective, their "See, just like we told you" backpedaling will probably look like ten cornerback prospects trying out at the NFL combine.

That concludes out 2020 football coverage.

henry

@pzf

BREAKING NEWS: US AG William Barr will announce the filing of criminal charges against Venezuelan Government officials, including president Nicolas Maduro, accusing them of involvement in the country's illegal drug trafficking.

Narciso

Cabello is the hesd of the sun cartel,

Melinda

PParenthood sues Gov. Abbott over ban:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/planned-parenthood-sues-texas-gov-abbott-over-order-to-stop-elective-abortions-during-coronavirus

Jack is Back!

According to Mel's 0930, I am a member of a "cult". I will open a bottle of wine to celebrate.

Narciso

The sacrifices comtinue to moloch

Tom Maguire

Re: "Re. the stock market: Time to buy? Gut is telling me it might [be]."

Don't fight the Fed! They will put the corporate and muni bond markets on a ventilator if they have to (Sort of a 'Weekend at Jerome's' movie plot). Those assets have still have room to recover back to "normal".

And if corporate bonds rally, stocks will.

There are plenty of fine companies with perfectly valid business models that will be fine again when we've moved on from this. *IF* you can ride out any bumps in the road, in a few years (or less) buying now will work out fine. (He said, since it always has in the past... then again, no one expects the Spanish Influenza.)

henry

Continue abortions- for grandma!

Unbelievable

Melinda

JiB-

Those are the core of the core of the very hard left.

Jack is Back!

So, it was a rollicking game of Beer Pong in Austria that spawned the UK and mainland Europe outbreak.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-patient-zero-east-sussex-family-may-have-infected-coronavirus/

henry

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/covid19_probably_wont_destroy_society_but_the_governments_reaction_might.html#.Xnyz0RtvUc4.twitter

MissMarple2

Apparently the Kennedy Center got an earful. Here is their statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET_TdvNX0AEgtDn?format=png&name=medium

Melinda

Donald Trump’s Campaign Slaps TV Stations With Cease And Desist Letter To Try To Halt Ad Attacking His Coronavirus Response

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-campaign-slaps-tv-042043827.html

Extraneus

The trials began Tuesday. The French protocol was ten days. Patience!

I couldn't find the paper itself, but:

According to a draft article by Raoult’s team and obtained by me, 36 patients were enrolled in the trial, including 16 infected controls and 20 treated patients. The test group was given 600 mg daily of Plaquenil, which is on the WHO’s List of Essential Medicines and has been used for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

At day three, the study reported, 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the COVID virus.

By day six, 70 percent tested negative.

https://tbsnews.net/coronavirus-chronicle/researchers-find-malaria-drug-potential-coronavirus-treatment-58624

Jane

I bought stock last Thursday and it's done very well. I suspect it's going to be up and down for a long time. I looked for stocks that would prosper in this crisis.

Market is up 730 this morning. 3rd day in a row.

Jack is Back!

jimmyk,

Daily Torygraph headline in the Sports section:

"Tennis is the perfect sport for a coronavirus pandemic. It should be encouraged, not banned"

Behind the paywall though.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

"Re. the stock market: Time to buy? Gut is telling me it might me."

Based on the precept 'Don't catch a falling knife', I'd suggest ease into it.
No major purchase until it's clear that no further shock event (such as govt action) can collapse things even more.

MissMarple2

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Despite the jobless numbers the DOW, S&P, and Nasdaq are surging. 10:14am ET

Tom Maguire

I've linked to the French study a couple of times.

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

Good call by Extraneus - the authors say 3-6 days showed results.

I should add a Full Disclosure on my stocm market advice: another couple of rallies like today and my opportunistic "How MUch Lower Could it Go?" buying of a few weeks back will be vindicated.

Ahh, I'm playing for 2025 and beyond!

Extraneus

Here's the draft paper. The charts at the end tell the story, albeit based on a very small sample size. People in China and South Korea have been testing these drugs for weeks or longer. Even if the NY study turns out to be the gold standard, why aren't we seeing data from other places?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view

Narciso

Because it doesnt fit the narrative.

MissMarple2

Here is the full text of what the Senate voted on last night. I got it from John Solomon's web site.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eT-ANEEd-AgAzyQh8GVUGoRqtKRLHxDm/view

The Infamous Ignatz

I want to make sure I understand prog logic.

Today it is important that we stop using reusable shopping bags because they can promote the spread of coronavirus which to date has killed about 1000 almost exclusively elderly Americans.

Tomorrow, after the coronavirus scare is over it will be vitally important for us to return to blessing the beasts and the children by resuming the enforced use of reusable shopping bags because the scores of thousands of geezers killed by influenza every year is totally worth it.

Extraneus

Because it doesnt fit the narrative.

Hard to believe something like that could be kept secret. If the results were bad, people could dunk on Trump. If the results were good, people could be heroes. Therefore, the results are probably confusing.

henry

Links to Fox story. Chicago going for the high density version of cruise ship viral transmission. No fresh air for anyone or go to jail! Murderers excepted (they must be essential).

@vickymckenna

Chicago cracks down over coronavirus, tells residents don’t go on long runs or bike rides--under threat of ARREST.

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1243180519073947648?s=21

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Re. the stock market: Time to buy? Gut is telling me it might me.

I jumped in Tuesday. :) MSFT

The Infamous Ignatz

I'm left to wonder how it is Tom Maguire happened to find a guy's video who only has five subscribers and that has only been viewed ~50 times...
...and the name of the guy who made it is tom10023...
...anyone who has met TM; has he got a thick UK accent and a pellet gun?

Jj532aa

Extraneous:

Our daughter and my husband have facetime. She's been facetiming us when she gets home in the evening. I'm on an android. I used to have Skype years ago. Can't remember why I quit. Our two granddaughters, 15, 13, have iphones, and 10 year old grandson has an ipad. The girls have done tiktoks, dancing, singing, and sent them to us. :) Cute. My sister and I have been WhatsApping video calls to each other, though she came by yesterday. We're not supposed to do that -- be out on errands unless it's for groceries or prescriptions. She had found a box of the clear, disposable safety gloves in her cabinets and had offered them to our daughter, who said, "marvelous" -- her group has moved into a fire station on the campus that had been converted into the medical examiner's office awhile back. She's in and out a lot to the different campuses and clinics, so I'm sure she's touching lots of surfaces and was pleased to have extra gloves in a pinch. One day I told her I'd been practicing not touching my face, hand washing after picking things up, etc., and it drove me crazy; and I didn't know how she was standing the frenetic pace she was living. She said, 'it's been hard. You feel like you have arms and nothing on the end.'

I ordered her three different boxes of latex disposable safety protective gloves from different places on amazon. All orders were accepted, one has been shipped. I hadn't tried to order anything like that because I assumed they'd vanished like toilet paper. I hope the gloves are shipped to me.

There's something about touching people, though. We're not a family of huggers. I've never liked to hug friends; I didn't use to hug my sisters or mother when I came home from London. But, it's the grandchildren. Maybe because I touched and held them when they were babies. When the girls come in, especially the oldest, I want to be close. She is lovely, her skin, hair. I drink in her essence -- youth, sun, vibrance, silk, velvet, satin -- she smells clean and pure, like springtime all the time. :)

Well, I guess this has helped me get that off my chest. Sorry to spill it all over here. Guess it's been building up since the first of this business.

Extraneus

‘Economist’ Runs Chinese Coronavirus Propaganda Disguised as News

The propaganda advertorials, which are ads designed to look like news stories, come from the Beijing Review, an entity backed by the Chinese Communist Party. The outlet has never registered with the Department of Justice as required by the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and does not include a legally required disclaimer that the ad is being pushed by a foreign nation.

"President Xi [Jinping] leads the battle against COVID-19 outbreak toward victory," an advertorial published in the March 21 edition of the Economist reads. "China has rolled out ‘probably the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history.'"

Melinda

Victor Davis Hanson: Trump can defeat coronavirus, save economy and turn disaster into an American victory

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/victor-davis-hanson-trumps-strategic-foresight-is-being-put-to-the-test

Captain Hate

PParenthood sues Gov. Abbott over ban:

Levin constantly baits CAIR into suing him so that, through discovery, he can shine a light on these vermin. Can Abbott do the same thing to illuminate who these ghouls donate to with taxpayer money? Time to go for the throat.

Melinda

Ext-

It's Pearson.

Captain Hate

...he can shine a light on who finances these vermin.

Narciso

Another hive mind,

Melinda

John Solomon
@jsolomonReports
Belgium joins Bahrain in affirming coronavirus treatment touted by Trump is working for patients. It is ordering doctors to preserve the hydroxychloroquine pills for COVID-19 patients most in need. justthenews.com/politics-polic…

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1243144127916761088

Old Lurker

"BREAKING NEWS: US AG William Barr will announce the filing of criminal charges against Venezuelan Government officials,"

Look! Squirrel!

There is probably some dictator in Africa he could indict for something too.

Extraneus

Pearson?

Narciso

Cant we indict any of our own traitors, does anyone brlieve venezuela has only 77 cases.

Narciso

Economist is part of pearson plc?

Narciso

Diacovery is the best part of these cases.

Melinda

Pearson

Melinda

Home of SkyDragon Editorial Services, narc, and duplicated at the FT.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Carp. Somehow posted this on the wrong thread ...

AM

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA
My county is a hotspot. No one we know personally is sick though, so far

This report says about half the folks in 1 hospital are positive for the virus
Spokesperson for hospital say the count is down from that now. The article says "many" (a handful? A dozen?) of the people on ventilators are in their 30s and 40s.
The wife doesn't want me to go outdoors anymore :( :(

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/nearly-half-patients-one-kaiser-203310860.html

Narciso

Got it, so wyndham who is suing burr, for reasons also gave the bulk of their contributions to biden and warren.

Narciso

Wouldnt it make more sense that am aggrievef shareholder do the suit.

Extraneus

Ah.

henry

Links to marketwatch

@vickymckenna

Mom and pop landlords hammered by government shutdowns of small businesses

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1243188748466229248?s=21

Captain Hate

Too dumb to figure out the rule of holes

Gallup Poll: Majority Of Americans Disapprove Of News Media Handling Of Wuhan Coronavirus

MARCH 26, 2020 By Tristan Justice

Of nine leaders and institutions rated by Americans in a new poll on their response to the novel Wuhan Coronavirus, the media fared the worst, and it's not even close.

According to a new Gallup poll released Wednesday, the media was the only institution that scored a negative approval rating among the public with only 44 percent of Americans approving of the way the media has covered the virus. Fifty-five percent disapprove making for a -11 percent rating.

https://tinyurl.com/scxn5wq
Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 10:52 AM (cF8AT)

The Infamous Ignatz

Greasy throuple skank calls Trump a "gross f***".
Gets pummeled.

MissMarple2

joan,

My 3 older grandchildren are grown (or nearly) and the youngest is sequestered with my son and his wife over 20 miles from here. I do feel for you though, as my good friend here has a husband with health conditions which make him higher risk and their grandchildren live in California.

How well I remember holding those dear babies and toddlers in my arms! It's a wonderful memory, and I am glad you reminded me!

Narciso

Oh snap, wasnt he pretending she had thr covid, i dont want to ponder how.

Captain Hate

From Iggy's 10:57

https://static.pjmedia.com/trending/user-content/51/files/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-25-at-9.20.17-PM.png

Narciso

At chihuahua.

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