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April 03, 2020

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Jane

Bummer! My icemaker stopped working - in my new fridge. NOw probably every person here could figure out how to fix it in 10 minutes, but not me. So I went to the gas station and got a bag. Phew. (and quite boring too - my aplologies)

MissMarple2

An icemaker! Boy, do I miss having one!

MissMarple2

According to the White House You Tube site, this is the link for the 3:30 press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8f-QjnmXXQ

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

If Sessions refused to recuse on his own recognizance rather than from under orders of Trump then it is he who acted improperly and would have been in danger of impeachment and conviction. And since as you say he's an honorable guy he would have properly fallen on his sword. As we've seen, had the Dmes pursued a spurious impeachment against Trump it would have been over much sooner and would have boosted Trump and diminished the Dems.

-- The only difference is that instead of Rosenstein protecting Trump from McCabe it is Sessions who appoints the SC.--

That has always been an absurd line of argument and it remains so. You yourself have noted over and over that Trump had the goods on the entire affair early on, so the proper route that Trump would have taken without a conflicted AG would have been to protect himself by canning the coup plotters just as he had the execrable Comey, rather than this fantasy you have that the ossified Mueller and his clique of Dem weasels was the brilliant maneuver to protect him.
It's so preposterous it's not even worth discussing.

Pinandpuller

People are wondering why COVID 19 is so random. I think it makes you flip a coin before it kills you.

Buckeye

That reminds me, I need to order a filter for my ice maker.

Wonder how much Amazon wants to rape me for that?

You can have one ream of printer paper delivered tomorrow for $12. Reasonably priced is 3-4 weeks.

People think it is a substitute for shit tickets (h/t Walt the hilljerk)?

KevlarKid

Reamed for a ream.

Jane

Maybe I need a filter? I can't open the bloody thing up. Step 1.

GUS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jeff-sessions-resigns-as-attorney-general

Oh the good old days. Remember when Chinless Stedman Holder recused himself from FAST and FURIOUS??? Good times, good times.

Porchlight

If his numbers are right [a substantial if] then flattening the curve loses a lot of its value.

I guess the counter argument is that the curve has been successfully flattened and that's why the model's so off on hospitalizations? If so, OK great, let's get back to work.

Re: the hospitals. Some hospitals are overwhelmed. Most are ghost towns.

JM Hanes

Kevlar Kid:

Well, starting with Kevin Locke, I spent the morning watching Pow Wow (Wow!) dancing. The men's costumes (not quite the right word I think) are amazing, and the differences between the dancers are very interesting. Among the women, I especially admired the Fancy Shawl Dancers, whose footwork is absolutely spectacular (the four finalists dance at the 20:50 mark). It's as though they aren't bound to earth. I ended up here, with Deanne Hupfield who makes learning "How to Dance Powwow" look easy. It's not! When she started talking about Fancy Shawl choreography, it strongly reminded me of Scottish and Irish Folks Dancing. If you skip to the 1:13 mark in this Riverdance video, the woman's footwork (and dancing on the balls of her feet) is quite similar. When I went looking for some Scottish flinging this was a bit of a surprise. I was otherwise directed to numerous recordings of Highland Games, and I was struck by other similarities with the Powwow videos I had been watching earlier — a great gathering of peoples, opening with a formal parade. I love that the Scots also include their yutes (and the car alarm going off in the background at the end was certainly a novel touch). In a whole different way, Forbidden Ghost Dance reminded me of the Highland Clearances, also commemorated in song, So Many Partings.

Along the way, I also learned how to make a Salish Drum, so thank's for the adventure!

Buckeye

Re: the hospitals. Some hospitals are overwhelmed. Most are ghost towns.

Same story here Porch. Although Jr. says Children’s is “normal”.

Because there is so little elective surgery, all the normal infrastructure is running at partial staff. No place on the weekend to get bloodwork, MRI, etc.

MissMarple2

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
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There is obviously no mathematical correlation yet established, but it’s intriguing how the virus has blossomed in so-called “sanctuary cities.” #WuhanCoronaVirus

Narciso


Really dr kissinger


https://mobile.twitter.com/thomasjoscelyn/status/1246455453577621504

Narciso

Unsurprising

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeSmithDC/status/1246324543066722306

Narciso

Omg


https://mobile.twitter.com/sundanceloki/status/1246496073285341184

lyle

Most are ghost towns

Our two apparently are. Both are furloughing nurses AND docs as I said last night.

But I’ve learned a bit more on why: they’re waiting on the stimulus bailout from Uncle Sugar. So retain employees but not let them work. Hold out hands begging for some alms for the poor hospital admins. Both of ours are mightily over-leveraged. So there you are.

Rocco

I would think that each hospitals census is way down these days because in part, people aren't going anywhere, consequently aren't doing things that would warrant visits to hospitals. And fear of contracting the virus must be keeping ER visits down. And then of course Buckeye nails it at 2:47.

Ghost towns indeed.

clarice

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/reminder-fired-icig-atkinson-connected-schiffs-impeachment-sham-wife-connected-fusion-gps-russia-collusion-sham-instigators/
More on Atkinson's firing.

MissMarple2

Regarding the James Woods comment that I posted at 2:48, look at this:

If you want to see it full-size, look here:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUx6Q2HX0AEYYpz?format=jpg&name=large

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Here is a discussion by Doc Murray's group updating their model and evaluating its accuracy that might answer one or two of MJW's questions.
For whatever reason they haven't updated the actual graphs since April 1st so April 2nd on are still projections.
I did not see where they had addressed the large difference in actual hospitalizations Sean Davis described. It's possible they're describing a discrepancy that is apples and oranges but don't know. Davis referred to the number of people who had been hospitalized whereas Murray is describing hospital beds required which could be a larger, cumulative number because presumably many of those hospitalized require more than one day. But it's hard to see how you could need more beds that th total of those hospitalized.

Somewhat ominously they report;

Our projections on the cumulative total COVID-19 deaths in the US also increased: our March 26 release estimated 81,114 deaths (uncertainty interval 38,242 to 162,106) through the first wave, while today’s release estimates 93,531 deaths (range of 39,966 to 177,866) through the first wave.

which seems to imply they anticipate another wave, perhaps ala the Spanish/Swine flu next fall or winter.

Narciso

I posted last night from a spanish quod verum how the italian cases are not uniform, much lower case south of lombard.

KevlarKid

JMH: You're welcome! The common term is Regalia. :)

Porchlight

They always talk about possible returning waves in the fall for these outbreaks but they don't seem to ever occur. Of course CV seems to be breaking the mold but we'll see.

Rocco

My wife has seen a couple of patients for elective surgery referred by the same orthopedic surgeon. One was for a sprained thumb and the other just as trivial. Because of these two cases, all elective surgery has to be approved by the head honcho.

MissMarple2

Summary of Trump's call with major league sports commissioners. Of note: Administration participants did not include people like Fauci/Birx or Mnuchin. I wonder what the commissioners will say about the call. pic.twitter.com/qAGWHf8pqw

— Olivier Knox (@OKnox) April 4, 2020

Link goes to a screen cap of the summary of the call and a list of people who were present for the call (2 pages).

Threadkiller

Regarding James Woods Sanctuary Covid map, this is from 2014:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnkSXosZhic&feature=emb_title

Long time JOMers may remember DoT mocking me and the CBP agent for claiming that asymmetrical warfare is a possibility.

GUS

We should give Vindman and the fake Whistle blower a call. They'll know about the call.
Vindman was a LEADER.

Narciso


This one:


https://social.quodverum.com/@SalvajeUnitario

MissMarple2

Narendra Modi
@narendramodi
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Had an extensive telephone conversation with President @realDonaldTrump
. We had a good discussion, and agreed to deploy the full strength of the India-US partnership to fight COVID-19.

Narciso

They are still talking up the wet markets thats like tecommending rats in the midst of the plague.

Narciso

They dont atack berenson who mined the stats

https://mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1246478349284884481

lyle

Insty posts this from FB:

The debate over immigration is over: restriction wins.

The debate over borders is over: they are needed.

The debate over globalization is over: the era of autarky begins.

The debate over Europe is over: it is a geographic expression, not a polity.

The debate over global warming is over: it is irrelevant.

The debate over international institutions is over: only nations matter.

The debate over the People’s Republic of China is over: it is a menace to the community of nations, not a member in good standing.

Crisis is clarity.

Yep

MissMarple2

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Olivier Knox
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Summary of Trump's call with major league sports commissioners. Of note: Administration participants did not include people like Fauci/Birx or Mnuchin. I wonder what the commissioners will say about the call.
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@CatesDuane
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Replying to
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VENEZUELA DECLARES IT'S AT WAR WITH THE WOLRD!

WORLD APPARENTLY UNAWARE.
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@Ryan_VanSickle
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Replying to
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Silver lining is you now have two small rolling pins

Amazing Polly
@99freemind
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this stuff of science fiction movies
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@KokeReport
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Prison vibes....
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Narendra Modi
@narendramodi
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5h
Had an extensive telephone conversation with President @realDonaldTrump
. We had a good discussion, and agreed to deploy the full strength of the India-US partnership to fight COVID-19.
AccuWeather
@breakingweather
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A developing weather pattern will threaten repeated downpours and flooding problems into the second week of April for Texas: https://bit.ly/34aRJzQ
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Matt Couch
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@RealMattCouch
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BREAKING: Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson says Evictions will NOT be halted due to Coronavirus, and Hundreds of Thousands of Arkansans being Unemployed...

MissMarple2

Sorry! I do NOT know how that happened.

KevlarKid

That's Lt. Colonel Vindman to you.

Porchlight

That's excellent, lyle at 3:32. Thanks.

lyle

Follow up to clarice @ 3:06:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-fires-intel-ig-michael-atkinson?utm_content=buffer908e2&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=tw-theblaze

“Dems are already calling it ‘retribution’.”

henry

Kev, wrong. That’s tubby to me. I can toss donuts same way an airplane tosses flares. Then even my old crippled self can out run tubby. I figure tubby can’t go farther than twenty yards, assuming that is downhill. Obama’s army.

Melinda

Stephen McIntyre
@ClimateAudit
interesting in vivo results from ivermectin, a very interesting drug. Original article is here: sciencedirect.com/science/articl….

ivermectin is more exotic than hydroxychloroquine, not likely to be used much for months and thus far not praised by Trump. Thus good chance CDC will support.

Sergei Millian 🇺🇸 @SergeiMillian
Replying to @SergeiMillian
Published in the journal Antiviral Research, the study from Monash University showed that a single dose of Ivermectin could stop the coronavirus growing in cell culture -- effectively eradicating all genetic material of the virus within two days.

👌👌👌😊😊😊

Show this thread

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1246511913347022851

lyle

Yer walcome, Porch. Small confession: I had to look up ‘autarky’. 😬

KevlarKid

Talktoodahand, Dhimmis. IC IG is o.u.t.

Narciso

That piece about spain and the catalyst for infection is buried deep at buckleys lament.

Captain Hate

One of these is a prosecutor

Occam’s Razor would point to her making a bonehead move and then grasping at straws to blame Trump for her stupidity.

See, to me, Occam’s Razor would point to her making a bonehead move and then telling the truth about where she heard about the substance that she encouraged her husband to drink, which killed him.

Porchlight

I was about to look up autarky, lyle. :)

D

Clarice:
Your Gateway Pundit link was very good.

lyle

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/825200206/doctors-say-hospitals-are-stopping-them-from-wearing-masks

WTF?

KevlarKid

Lt. Colonel Crispy Creme... the original pork-fried donut hole. >:0

lyle

Well, that’s a relief to me, Porch, considering your profession! 😉

Porchlight

Melinda,

I have ivermectin in the house. It's for horses, to de-worm them. It also cures head lice, which is a huge problem in Texas. My smart BFF did the research and then got some. There are pastes that are given to horses to eat - I have some of that. And then also a spray - I have some of that too.

We had recurring lice among three kids for SEVEN YEARS until I sprayed their hair with the (diluted) spray. Zapped overnight, never to be seen again. That was maybe four years ago. Miracle cure which I would recommend to anyone.

If you are interested in it, check anywhere you would look for livestock-related supplies. Or online. But get it fast. The horse paste is safe for humans in the appropriate dosage according to my BFF's research but I am not a doctor, just saying.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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America owes our very hard working food supply workers so much as they produce and deliver high quality food for us during this horrible COVID-19. Join me in thanking our Farmers, Ranchers, Processors, Distributors and Stores! @JohnBoozman

Jim Eagle

Porch,

Autarky is the ex-secularist ruler of Turkey, no?

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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28m
The Paycheck Protection Program is up and running! The program is open to nonprofits as well, so banks be sure to sign up our Great Religious and Veteran Organizations that need help!

D

Atkinson forgot the age old lesson:
If you go after the king , you better kill him.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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9m
To all of our youth who are missing the start of their @LittleLeague seasons, hang in there! We will get you back out on the fields, and know that you will be playing baseball soon....

....We will get through this together, and bats will be swinging before you know it. In the meantime, take care of mom and dad, and know that this will not be forever! @littleleagueceo

Porchlight

Sounds about right JiB. ;)

Porchlight

Here is the ivermectin paste I have. Dirt cheap.

https://www.allivet.com/p-105-ivermectin-paste.aspx

Tom R

It's so preposterous it's not even worth discussing.

No offense but that comes across as an evasion.

Every point I have made comes straight from Turley. He has written numerous opeds on the topic of Sessions recusal. He is one of the preeminent Constitutional law professors in the country and the subject matter expert that Team Trump called on to testify on behalf of Trump that the Democrat's article of impeachments had no Constitutional legal basis. I think it is way out of line part to label his opinions preposterous.

If Sessions refused to recuse on his own recognizance rather than from under orders of Trump then it is he who acted improperly and would have been in danger of impeachment and conviction.

Did you read Turley's oped? He points out the political benefit to Trump of Sessions recusal.

As we've seen, had the Dmes pursued a spurious impeachment against Trump it would have been over much sooner and would have boosted Trump and diminished the Dems.

The Democrats could not proceed forward with impeaching Trump until the Mueller SC was completed and he provided them with the evidence to impeach Trump. That obviously did not happen as evidenced by all the conniption fits Progtards and the Fake News media had when the SC report was published.

Not one of the eventual articles of impeachment against Trump were related to Russian collusion or any finding in the Mueller SC. It was 100% related to Trump's call to the Ukraine president and the allegation Trump was calling on Ukraine to investigate the Biden's and threatening to withhold military aid if they didn't. This all happened well after Sessions was gone.

That has always been an absurd line of argument and it remains so.

What do you think is absurd about it? The actions of the Obama criminal cabal (McCabe, Strzok, etc) are well documented by now. They were in the process of committing a coup against Trump. Whether Sessions recused himself or not had zero impact on their criminal acts. They started the coup long before Sessions got confirmed as AG and they continued it well after Trump took office.

Democrats and the Fake News are evil and predictable. It is easy to predict the outcome of an alternate history where Trump gets his wish, Sessions does not recuse or unrecuses himself at Trump's request and then goes on to fire McCabe, Strzok etc WITHOUT appointing a SC to continue the Crossfire Hurricane. That blows up in Trump's face big time and creates the perception he truly did collude with the Russians. Sure the investigation ends a lot earlier but Trump no longer gets the benefit of an SC proving the allegations against him were false. As Turley points out and I have been saying here for a long time, the outcome of the Mueller SC was one of the best things to happen to Trump and helped improve his reelection chances. regardless of who Sessions appoints as SC, even if it was Mueller, the Democrats and Fake News media constantly bombard the American public with accusations the SC is all a coverup to protect Trump's traitorous collusion with Russia. Thank to Mueller, everyone knows now those allegations are pure lies and bullshit. Trump doesn't get the benefit of exoneration if Sessions is who appoints the SC.

jimmyk

Wait, so we're going from fish tank cleaner to horse de-wormer? What's next? Septic tank cleaner?

Melinda

Dominoes-Donald Byrd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIprW-gxXk

Needed that bass line about now, all for starting in on the Ronnie Laws....sheesh.

jimmyk

The horse paste is safe for humans in the appropriate dosage according to my BFF's research but I am not a doctor, just saying.

If I were Mr Porch I'd be vewwy vewwy careful about what's on the Porch household dinner menu.

Melinda

jimmyk-

No, next will be the derooter for septic. Pay attention!

Jim Eagle

Trump remembers Little League, thus inserting himself further into the fabric of middle America. The guy is a demographic genius. Plus he played baseball most of his early life even at New York Military Academy.

MissMarple2

Personally, I would like to believe that a bit of alcohol in the bloodstream (which my daughter read on her Facebook) works.

Therefore, I have a large glass of Merlot to sip on while I watch the press conference.

GUS

I heard Venezuela went to war with Captain Stubing, and Gopher.....and LOST.

henry

Gus, Isaac slipped them a Mickey.

sbwaters

So let's get the dang press conference started. As soon as it ends I get to go out on the patio and watch the ducks and geese frolic on the lake.

Porchlight

Haha, jimmyk. I've already eaten this stuff though, so I promise it's not like the fish tank cleaner. It is apple flavored. :)

Used to treat dogs for heartworm, too.

MissMarple2

Jack,

That Little League reference struck me, too.

Trump is a little bit older than me. I bet those 4 Freedoms of Norman Rockwell were hanging somewhere in his school room, like they were in the entry hall at my grade school.

I also bet he remembers things like Christmas parties at school, teachers only wearing dresses if they were ladies, Lionel trains, and a host of other things that have disappeared from the American landscape.

GUS

Vindman = Lt Col Sanders. His "friends" call him Extra Crispy.

MissMarple2

Do you guys think he is late on purpose just to tweak the press people?

henry

Feed just went live on conference

henry

Probably watching Cuomo try to upstage him. Dumb move by Cuomo.

sbwaters

Chess pieces on the White House board.

GUS

It's perfect, Libtard feeds husband poison, too stupid to know that FISH TANK CLEANER is not a PRESCRIPTION DRUG, blames TRUMP.

The LEFT in a....heh heh NUT shell.

Shouldn't she be charged with manslaughter??

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Shoot I'm gonna make some spaghetti sauce out of ivermectin;
Worms-be-gone, nits-and-louts-out and SARS virus vanquished.
If it's a deodorant and mouthwash too, I'll be set for life.

lyle

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2020/04/03/nyts-friedman-spews-trump-climate-change-response-could-be

Get this:

Oddly, his only criticism of the Chinese government was that “China was reckless about importing and mixing ‘terrestrial wildlife’ — supposedly endowed with magical sexual and other powers — with regular meat and seafood in its wet markets.”

Say, what?

I hope this puke gets a nasty case of -19. I hear imbecility is a co-morbidity.

jimmyk

I think it makes more sense because paying 50 million people not to work makes very little sense in the first place.
But it doesn't seem like throwing $1T at health care over the span of a few weeks would be much different than just putting it in a pile and burning it.

As OL and hopefully others understood, I was using hyperbole to make a point: If there's a specific resource problem, direct resources toward that problem in as focused a way as possible. Supply side: Get PPE and other resources into health care (at amom's direction). Demand side: Isolate the most likely to get hospitalized (over 50 and/or with indicated health problems).

jimmyk

It is apple flavored. :)

Mmmm, apples....

Ah, I think I'll stick with apple sauce, thank you.

jimmyk

If it's a deodorant and mouthwash too, I'll be set for life.

Sounds more like floor wax and dessert topping.

Manuel Transmission

JMH, we are ensconced right in the middle of the Salish Sea. The furreners think it is North Puget Sound, but we are north of the Strait of Juan de Fuca so that is the boundary. Deep and strong currents flush it twice a day.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Zerohedge link that I reccomend everyone read if you want to know what to do about a recession/depression and especially if you want to know how to answer Keynseyians, progs, Dems and unfortunately, Republicans who advocate all the stupid crap we did in 2008/9 and are doing now;
The Lesson Of A Crash [and depression] That Cured Itself
The forgotten depression of 1920; forgotten because it disappeared quickly due to Harding's wise steady hand of doing very little and nothing at all as we do now. He's a comical footnote in history while FDR who gave us ten years of misery is a freakin hero.

Tom R

My nomination for Fucktard of the Day for this question.

https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1246529596838891524?s=21

Rocco

Considering that some busy hospitals are sending CV-19 patients home, telling them not to come back until they're really bad, Ivermectin might be a good idea.

Extraneus

Interesting data at the CDC website.

Of 446,778 total deaths since Feb 1, only 12 were patients under 44 years of age with COVID + pneumonia.

No word on pre-existing conditions, but 8 of the 12 deaths were in the age 35-44 category.

See Table 2 here:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

GUS

Rocco, I'm going with Ivermectin just as soon as the FISH TANK CLEANER runs out. It's never hurt the fish. Why would it hurt me. On second thought, I'll have my wife try it out first.

henry

Gus, neighbor with the blue fist sign in his yard needs the privilege of being “saved” first. Your wife will be fine. ;)

Jim Eagle

Ex,

Which cancels out CoVid19 as a bioweapon. If it was it would be designed to infect and kill those of military age not of social security age.

henry

Fauci moving goalposts live on tv.

MJW

The Murray-model webpage says, "Please check back on Saturday, April 4 for our next update," so there should be an update soon.

I wish the hospital projections showed the actual data for the days that have already occurred the way the death projection does. I can't make sense of the projection versus the hospitalization data I've seen, but it's made more difficult by not knowing precisely what the model is forecasting, and also by the fact that the hospital and ICU data doesn't seem to be as consistently reported between states as is the death data. I think the CDC ought to set up clear guidelines for reporting, and the states should follow it. That doesn't seem like too much to expect.

GUS

Blue fist. What a nice way to express ones self.

henry

Blue fist is a “we need your fish tank cleaner” sign.

MJW

The ivermectin information is very interesting (though I think McIntyre meant in vitro, not in vivo). From what I can find, it appears to be a very safe drug. I hope it's tried soon on covid-19 patients.

GUS

Fisting. I think it means the people living there are into FISTING. Whatever that is.....heh heh.

KevlarKid

Porch! have you read anything about the Ivermectin dosing for humans re Covid? i just bought two tubes fr that link. $12 w/shipping. hopefully wont need it. tx in advance.

Ivermectin was mentioned in Narciso 322p and Mel's posts 337 as well as yours. :)

Dave (in MA)
Blue fist.
Smurf solidarity?
Rocco

GUS, I think Mr Porch made porch try it first too.

GUS

Gay Smurf lives here.

henry

Dave, fleebagger emblem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wisconsin+blue+fist&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari&safari_group=9

KevlarKid

How does vaping figure into pulmonary- bronchial compromise?

Autopsy reports on hospital deaths since the crisis began: is there data to mine? time to collect it? do corpses pose risk to personnel?

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