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April 10, 2020



I think its tongue in cheek, on tks part.

She knows.


Is that quote from JackStraw back thread where he lists the background for Intel Community's Inspector Gen'l true?
That's troubling if so ... IG Atkinson would go up a notch and reside on a level with Comey and Brennan in my personal pantheon of Evil Doers.


LENT ENDED YESTERDAY, we can all go back to eating normally. I'm going to Ruths Chris.

Captain Hate


JackStraw researches things thoroughly before posting.


Lent is officially over but I thought meat was forbidden on Good Friday, GUS. Surely this of all Fridays would be a day to abstain.


I was wondering about that. When I was a kid, there was no meat on any Friday, nevermind Good Friday.


Jim, that pantheon is like a Cecil B Demille movie: a cast of thousands.


He is correct, in the description.

They wasted so much time and money in this stupid russian pantominr.


You caught me Porch. Many Bishops have given dispensation to the no meat rule.
But I couldn't get a reservation at Ruths Chris, they were far too crowded.
Oh, the meat rule is ages 18-59. So I best not have McDonalds' either.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Well I've got a flat iron chillin for ~7:00 and He's still my Savior.


Only a couple of days till the true feast, GUS.

Online "church" coming up at 7. Later tonight we will watch Passion of the Christ. I'm a little nervous. Haven't seen it yet but have always meant to.

Captain Hate


I loved that book in college, Cap'n. Since it is Good Friday it is especially appropriate, given the Pilate scene.

Did you read it for a lit class with a prof that explained all the references and allusions? The one I got at City Lights was almost like a samizdat copy (how appropriate) and I don't think had any footnotes. But it was still a hilariously wild read. Then when the 50th anniversary edition came out I took it out from the library. My edition was almost completely uncensored (freedom FTW) but the footnotes helped a *lot*.


My wife asked if I would like to watch THE PASSION of The Christ, tonight. Its hard to watch, but it's fantastic also.


Pardon me, I’m Social Dissidentcing.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Speaking of steaks, an email I got today;

At the end of a long, hard day, few things satisfy meat-eaters more than a juicy, tender cut of steak — as long as they don’t mess it up during the cooking process.

For many people, having a steak dinner means digging into the back of your freezer, pulling out that slab of meat you’ve been saving, and letting it thaw. But food scientist Guy Crosby, a Harvard professor of food chemistry and science editor for America’s Test Kitchen, says the thawing process may actually lessen the flavor and texture of your rib eye, strip, or t-bone.

“For years people would think, ‘Geez, I’ve got to spend hours thawing this thing out before I can cook it,’” Crosby tells Inverse. “Well, no. You can cook it, and it can turn out just as good and sometimes even better when you throw it on the grill or in the skillet when it’s still frozen.”

The reason is simple: The high-temperature differential between the outside of a frozen steak exposed to high heat in an oiled skillet allows the outside to brown and sear nicely without affecting any of the juiciness. This external browning process is known as the Maillard reaction, a heat-based chemical process involving proteins and sugars that causes these molecules to rearrange themselves to form new ones, some of which are the compounds that make steak look delicious and taste just right.

Once the browning process is complete, pop that seared beauty into the oven at 275 degrees Fahrenheit, using a meat thermometer to ensure the middle hits a nice 125 degrees Fahrenheit for a perfect medium-rare cook. Then, let it rest covered for at least a few minutes — this allows the juices time to settle after warming in the oven where the fats inside were rendered and turned to liquid. Otherwise, the liquids are going to pour right out when your knife goes in.

Crosby and his team at America’s Test Kitchen ran an experiment to see if a frozen sear vs. the thawing approach resulted in any appreciable difference. They found the frozen steaks browned as nicely as the thawed pieces, lost 10 percent less moisture, and had thinner strips of that gray, overcooked beef you get between the sear and the meaty center on all cuts of steak — which is good news for summer grilling enthusiasts.

Fresher is better, but frozen is just as good, so pull that beef out from the back of your freezer and prepare yourself a quick, weeknight steak dinner that’s guaranteed to taste better than last night’s Lean Cuisine.



You don’t have to go home but you can’t eat here.

Captain Hate

GUS, that's a brutally hard movie to watch but I thought it portrayed the historical setting as well as possible.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Look at How Ridiculously Wrong All the Covid-19 Models Were
[He refers only to hospital bed needs]


Hope everyone stays well and has a happy Easter.




Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Not sure I'd like this handling my paltry funds.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

this *guy*

Jack Lillywhite

The Passion of Christ, is that the Cavizel movie. I have always wanted to watch it.

Soylent Red

Fecking willowed:

how's your track record on predicting elections with Trump on the ballot? ;)

Yeah, well...at least I don't eat paste.

Ivermectin, btw, is good stuff. Back in my drug company days we marketed a competing anti-parasitic for animals. People in the plant got the stuff on their skin from time to time with...interesting results. It can be a little upsetting to the human digestive tract apparently, and because it is pretty fast acting, well...you can figure out the rest.

I don't recommend it, but in a pinch you can get the dosing information on Drugs.com and roll your own if necessary.

Chloriquine is also the real deal. That was the anti-malarial they gave us in Afghanistan when the DoD figured out mefloquine makes you batshit crazy. My sister took a long cycle of it upon returning from West Africa. Stamps out all the little buggies in the blood.

Maybe you are detecting a pattern here: anti-parasitic drugs work against the Kung Fu Grippe (my new favorite name for this shit). So we may have a whole battery of useful stuff to combat it.


the meat rule is ages 18-59

Oh good G*d. Are there rules on tofu too?




For all of you who just "know" that Lent is 40 days long -- it's not!

Lent starts on Ash Wednesday, followed by the First, Second, Third, Fourth, & Fifth Sundays of Lent, followed by Palm Sunday, and it ends with the start of the Holy Thursday Mass. The Triduum is Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, then Easter Sunday starts with sunrise mass.

So, tote that up... Wednesday-to-Tuesday, 6 weeks, 42 days. Another two days get you to Thursday -- hey wait a minute we're already over 40 days!

Ok, now we come to the first fun rule here. The "First Sunday of Lent", "Second Sunday of Lent", etc -- it turns out that the Sundays of Lent are OF Lent but not IN Lent. Because it is prohibited to fast on ANY Sunday. (Because Lent reminds us of Christ's death, but we never forget that He has already risen, and Easter has already come.) So, anyway, back to counting... Lent and the Triduum together are 46 days total, subtract out the 6 Sundays which are not fast days, and there are 40 days of fasting in Lent and the Triduum together.

So the songs elide the count in several ways. Because, trust me, singing These thirty-seven-and-a-half days during Lent O Lord with you we fast and pray... or These forty days of Lent and Triduum O Lord with you we fast and pray... none of them scan very well!


From the last thread:

"“freeware OpenOffice”

At home, me too."

You should check out LibreOffice. It's a fork of OpenOffice and has a much more active developer base.

It's the default office productivity suite on the 500 or so desktops and laptops we have deployed.

We have some prima donnas though, about 100 or so, who have MS Office. Mainly because, I believe, they think they are special if they have Outlook.

I hate Outlook.

Paint.net is great, free replacement for Photoshop too. Feature rich and, did I mention, free?

It too has an active developer base and there are so many plugins to add to the program that you can do very complicated projects with it.


Our local County COVID dashboard is here.

Just in the last couple of days they've added a PC "Deaths by Race/Ethnicity" section.

Interestingly enough, it's pretty informative.
Blacks: 4% (we're a pretty much white&brown area but not many blacks)
Asian: 23% probably underrepresented. Lots of Asians wear masks, order groceries delivered, stay inside, highly risk averse,etc)
White: 34%
Hispanic: 36%

The Hispanic percentage seems way high to me. Either we have a lot more hispanics than I expect or there's a heavy toll amongst them.

Here's a quick Bing search result but there's no way to know how accurate these things are.
The ethnic composition of the population of Santa Clara County, CA is composed of

717k Asian Alone residents (37%),
599k White Alone residents (30.9%),
491k Hispanic or Latino residents (25.3%),
70.1k Two or More Races residents (3.62%),
47k Black or African American Alone residents (2.42%),
5.97k Native Hawaiian & Other Pacific Islander Alone residents (0.308%),
4.43k Some Other Race Alone residents (0.229%), and
2.95k American Indian & Alaska Native Alone residents (0.152%).

Captain Hate

I'm sure this will shock everyone



Soylent, your comment has not been approved by PROFESSORS, LIBTARDS, and ARM CHAIR EPIDEMIOLOGISTS across the land. They derive much power and turgidity by telling you what you may or may not take to save your life. Next thing you know someone will try FISH TANK CLEANER at home, and you'll have blood, or mucus on your hands.


You should check out LibreOffice.

IMHO, it is a minor difference from Openoffice. I like the drawing program. The rest I don't use.


"LENT ENDED YESTERDAY, we can all go back to eating normally. I'm going to Ruths Chris."

Then why in Hades did my Sig Other make us eat fish sticks and french tonight!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Yes it is JiB.
Extremely well done.
I still prefer Zefferelli's Jesus of Nazareth, but very moving.
Those who haven't considered this verse might find it a bit shocking;

"So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;"

And in the next chapter too;

He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
And they made His grave with the wicked
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.—


Blessed Passover and Easter to the JOM family. I check in only once or twice a year (though lurking for more than a decade). During our "house arrest" I've watched the Passion of the Christ, and urge you do to so, and listening to old sermons from the former pastor of my church.

I decided to share this one with you. Midst this unsettled public health and political environment, it is a reminder that God triumphs. He fought for us and he has WON.



Ugh, ugh, ugh... We just got our first positive test in our county, and my local Facebook ninnies are going full-on nazi.

Apparently a male between 20-40, and they are doing contact tracing. So far I haven't gotten any calls!

Another Bob

“ Passion of the Christ. I'm a little nervous.“

Yeah, it merits that. It’s a tough go in spots.

Another Bob

“You should check out LibreOffice.”

That’s actually what I use Bub.


She did right Bub. I had fish sticks for lunch,


Well, LibreOffice is just a fork of OpenOffice.

I like it because of the more active developer community and I think it has better documentation.

potato, potatoe...


Your wife was right.
Good Friday is a day of fast and abstinence.
Of all the days of Lent this one has a no meat tag on it.
Also you can’t eat big meals either.
However drinks are ok.60 and up can do what they want.
Also as kids we had to keep quiet from 12:00 to 3:00.


Isiah 53 presages the gospels.


bub, I'm not arguing, and if you like this software series (and its spinoffs) then great. I just find it bloated -- even compared with Microsoft! -- and not useful.


The 40 days is about the wilderness.


I remember no meat on Friday, from school. What was the religious reason?


Pritzker suggests no large gatherings until coronavirus vaccine available

“I think everybody needs to think seriously about canceling large summer events,” Pritzker said. “From my perspective today, I do not see how we are going to have large gatherings of people again until we have a vaccine, which is months and months away. I would not risk having large groups of people getting together anywhere. I think that’s hard for everybody to hear, but that’s just a fact.”



Gus, when my kids were little, fish sticks were very popular. Fish sticks and french fries were de rigueur and, unfortunately, not during Lenten season.

I burned out on the menu. The youngest are teens now and more into pizza.

So am I.

I've never been to Ruths Chris but have oogled their offerings more than once online.

We do have a local steak place, Janko's Little Zagreb, that is my current fav steak place. It's not just the food but the atmosphere. I miss not being able to go there.


"However drinks are ok."


I'm good for another then with no sense of guilt!


Bub, I've got an old former friend who actually lives in ZAGREB. He's gone 'round the bend and posts incessantly about TRUMP being SATAN.


Good enuff, DrJ!

Manuel Transmission

We’ve finally hit the big time:

Posted on: April 10, 2020 Sheriff and Prosecuting Attorney on Order Enforcement While a majority of San Juan County residents have been doing all they can to limit the spread of COVID-19 in our communities, there are reports of individuals or businesses choosing to ignore the recent orders from the Governor and the San Juan County Health Officer.

In an effort to improve the County’s ability to learn of and respond to violations, Sheriff Ron Krebs has rolled out a hotline and dedicated email to receive complaints. “We are ensuring we have an orderly process to receive islanders’ concerns and respond in an appropriate and consistent manner,” said Sheriff Krebs.

The approach will focus on education first. “I applaud all of those who are complying with the stay at home order of Governor Inslee. Voluntary compliance is our first line of protection against the coronavirus,” added Sheriff Krebs.

Please call 360-370-7609 to lodge a complaint for a violation or to seek clarification of the meaning of the Governor’s Order or the San Juan County Health Officer order. The Sheriff has also created an email to receive complaints and questions at [email protected]. People who phone or email should expect a response within 24 hours. Do not call 911 for this purpose.

“Our goal is to contact individuals and businesses to ensure they are aware of the order and to check whether the activity in question is allowable exception. . We recognize the rules here are complex and are not always obvious,” said Sheriff Krebs.

In addition, the Governor has also set up a complaint form that can be accessed at https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/09349a1c56844b539fea1c2cabd16d56. Those complaints to the state may not be passed along to the local sheriff, unless it is determined that additional action is needed.

Prosecuting Attorney Randall Gaylord has tasked deputy prosecutor Erica Temple with answering questions from the Sheriff’s deputies and preparing any applicable court papers to ensure compliance.

“We agree that the objective at this time to inform and educate,” said Gaylord. He added that his aim is to reserve the courts for the more serious offenders. A civil “cease and desist” order is one tool that may be considered, it is also possible that businesses could face penalties from state regulators or the Consumer Protection Division of the Washington State Attorney General’s Office.

Both Krebs and Gaylord ask residents to understand that the emergency orders were adopted quickly and the list of “essential business” was complicated. It is their sincere hope that those in San Juan County will want to comply, in order to protect themselves and their neighbors.

Molan Labe, MFer


I've never been to Ruths Chris

I've only been to two -- one in Phoenix and one in the DC area -- but if they are representative, the meat is outstanding. Whether it is worth it or not is another question.


The Black Gay Surgeon General is an anesthesiologist?

Count back from 100 Mr Zimmerman, I’m finna sleep you.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

This guy can't be serious but these days, who knows, especially when they're this deadpan?
Follow-up. We will persue legal charges for hate speech against people who continue to maliciously use the K-word. STOP HARASSING OTHERS!!!!
The K word = Karen.



Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

If the surgeon general is homosexual he's got a beard like Billy Gibbons since wiki says he and his wife Lacey have three kids.


Occasional CV-19 update from Oregon. Still looks like we hit peak hospitalization around 20 March. Death total now at 48, with 46 positives currently on ventilators. New hospitalizations holding at 1-2 per day.


Jane, Canon 1250 states that the days and times of penance for the whole Church are the Fridays of the entire year, and the season of Lent.

Canon 1250: All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church. Canon 1251: Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities; abstinence and fast are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Canon 1252: All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year. Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance. Canon 1253: It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

Pennance for the sins of the church


But of course gus.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I take back what I said earlier. Murray had 1970 dead on the 8th and 1983 today, so today would be the peak, according to his model.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

OK, guess who wrote this?
An article about Trump that says nothing critical of him.


Anybody STILL talking about politics & elections at this point instead of Declaration of Independence style dissolutions of every govt involved and summary trials of those responsible, is either too stupid to catch on or in on the scam. Either way, they have chosen sides.



Thanks Rocco. Sounds like you are supposed to fast, but we always had fish fingers in school.


Now Trump is talking about drawing blood from everyone. This is really getting fucked up.




Thank you! I appreciated the sermon.

Happy Easter!


I emailed AP about them not reporting on yesterday's presser where Trump's staff detailed supplies to the most needy.

AP replied they had run bits of Trump's presser in other articles.

I followed up with:

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it.

We chose not to run the supply article because it appeared unbalanced insofar as:

— it did not include what was reported at the briefing,
— it dealt on governors’ “requests” not the granular delivery of needed supplies,
— that previous administrations had drained the stockpile,
— that some states, like New York, had declined to rebuild stocks previously depleted,
— that states who found themselves in competition were to contact the feds to bow out of it,
— and did not present that the federal government serves as a back-up for states.

Again, thank you for your reply.


The Surgeon General is BLACK and is married to LACEY UNDERALLS. This dude is the real deal.


Don't click, it's CNN. But the story says that Midwest meat plants are shutting down as COVID hits workers.
Meat plants are shutting down as workers get sick
Note: they quote a number of people who say that FOR NOW, there is no danger to consumers. For now, it's just more CNN "panic porn".

But it makes me wonder:
Will they eventually ease up on the shutdown due to "we stretched it out as best we could" or because "we have to get the economy going again before people starve"?

Dave (in MA)

Mrs. is watching Rupaul.
Somebody shoot me.
AOC is a judge.
Shoot me again to make sure.


Happy Birthday, Stephanie! Sorry I missed it earlier!


What fresh hell.

Dave (in MA)

Our standard lunch on Friday from Junior High onward was a slice of pizza and a half of a peanut butter sandwich.


Did you read it for a lit class with a prof that explained all the references and allusions?

Some but not all - it is so dense. We had a good prof for that class. But still I had to wade through it at age 20 with significantly less knowledge about everything in the world than I have now. It's a wonder I understood anything at all.


Pin and puller,

I don't know who that Twitter user is, but I didn't hear anything like that while listening to the press conference.


Thinking about booking me some more MREs.....:

Newshub Breaking
#BREAKING: Massive eruption at Indonesian volcano Krakatoa - report bit.ly/34pkER5



Thank you, Beester. It's good to see you. A blessed Easter to you.


We have fried fish patty with cheese inside, that wasnt a lent thing.


My kids still love fish sticks, and so do I.

Fish taco hack - bake up some fish sticks, break them up, and have them with the usual fixings - cabbage slaw with sour cream and cilantro, black beans, rice, tortillas, hot sauce.



I was just getting ready to post that story about Krakatoa.

If it shoots up a large plume, it will spread in the upper atmosphere and cause COOLING, which I am not thrilled about since right now it is 45 and due to get colder.



It was a Colorado packing plant that some workers have been tagged by the virus. DJT spoke of it during the presser and CNN has chosen to "enhance" his information.




That's NOT the one that caused the 1790s famine. The unpronouncable one in Iceland caused the Year Without Summer.


Greggers 🇺🇸🍀

Even though we all expected it, John Solomon just confirmed, seconds ago on Sean Hannity's radio show, that multiple DC Grand Jury subpoenas have been issued on behalf of US Atty John Durham.


[Breaking from 2:30 this afternoon....]


Looks like "Impeach Barr!" is on tap.



When I was a kid, this was one of our favorite cartoons:

Mighty Mouse in "Krakatoa"

(Includes that all-time favorite "Krakatoa Katie")







IMHO here's where that view is wrong. The CIA/FBI did not get duped by Russian Disinformation. The CIA/FBI knowingly and willfully solicited Russian disinformation to be channeled to Steele.

[Example: Andrew McCabe etc. asking Oleg Deripaska for dirt assistance in August '16.]

Jason Foster @JsnFostr
FBI Ignored Early Warnings that Debunked Anti-Trump Dossier was Russian Disinformation

Press release from @ChuckGrassley:


"The senators expect a fuller declassification in the coming days."




I know Krakatoa didn't cause "The Year Without a Summer."

However, it WILL cause some cooling, even if not as drastic as 1790.


This looks AWESOME!

Amity Shlaes
Interested in the GreatDepression? Graphic novel ideal for teens of all ages (if you know what I mean) drawn by Paul Rivoche is one of my better collaborations. Paperback. #forgotten man


Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Little Mary Margaret was not the best student in Catholic School, usually she slept through the class.

One day her teacher, a Nun, called on her while she was sleeping.

“Tell me Mary Margaret, who created the universe?”

When Mary Margaret didn’t stir, little Johnny who was her friend sitting behind her, took his pencil and jabbed her in the rear.

“God Almighty!” shouted Mary Margaret.

The Nun said, “Very good” and continued teaching her class.

A little later the Nun asked Mary Margaret, “Who is our Lord and Savior?”

But Mary didn’t stir from her slumber.

Once again, Johnny came to her rescue and stuck Mary Margaret in the rear.

“Jesus Christ!!!” shouted Mary Margaret, and the Nun once again said, “Very good,” and Mary Margaret fell back asleep.

The Nun asked her a third question…”What did Eve say to Adam after she had her twenty-third child?”

Again, Johnny came to the rescue.

This time Mary Margaret jumped up and shouted, “If you stick that damn thing in me one more time, I’ll break it in half!”

The nun fainted….

Jack Lillywhite

Just a beautiful but horrific movie of the fear and ignorance of man.

I hate to discuss this next topic while Christ is being crucified but I have been to many Ruth Chris and my favorite was in Philly at the Sonesta Hotel on Market. Smaller than most with Bistro tables. Next is the one in Boston on School St. Always a great steak, service and wine.


My wife and I seldom agree on anything remotely political, and she despises the Very Stable Genius with an irrational passion. She and I are nonetheless in agreement on the basics of the Coronavirus thing (the panic is worse than the disease, commonsense isolation of at-risk groups and reasonable social distancing makes sense, the shutting down of small businesses is a crime, etc., and most importantly we desperately need to get the economy started again ASAP). While driving today she played a podcast of this guy Dr. Michael Osterholm, a sort of quasi-celebrity epidemiologist, who made a fair amount of sense.
It should be noted that he has recently been featured with an op-ed in the WaPo, on CNN and MSNBC, etc.--apparently because he has been critical of Trump on issues like the PPE shortage and the alleged lack of "leadership" on issues related to the CV crisis. Hence my wife knows about him.

He seems kind of politically naïve but is apparently unafraid to say what he thinks.

The thing is, his primary criticism (as I understand it) has been that the "leaders" in Washington need to move to get the economy started, and that the extreme containment measures are actually counterproductive.

My thought is that Trump should put this guy on his team and let him take the political heat for saying Fauci and Blix are overdoing things.

Trump needs to get out of the box that his "experts" have put him in, and start pushing the reopening of the economy. He should get a credentialed critic and media-certified "expert" on board to provide the appropriate cover.

Just my 2 cents. Does anybody know anything about this guy?


We have fried fish patty with cheese inside, that wasnt a lent thing.

If you're talking about a school lunch served on Fridays, then it was definitely a Catholic thing if not limited to Lent.

Fish mac and cheese (fish patty served atop the mac) is another great one.

I love Wendy's cod filet sandwich, always offered during Lent.

I'm always kind of sad when Lent is over. I like the weeks of plainer food. And the dark intensity of Holy Week appeals to me more than Easter's bright pastels.


My thought is that Trump should put this guy on his team and let him take the political heat for saying Fauci and Blix are overdoing things.

Osterholm is sinecured at the University of Minnesota, I believe. I saw him on Joe Rogan's show a few weeks back and he was pushing the doom porn 100%. (FWIW, I looked it up and apparently he declined to make any projections when Obama was newly installed in the WH and H1N1 came along). I got into an argument with a friend on FB about it when I criticized Osterholm's statements and said that the overreaction was ridiculous, that the models were insane, and that we were headed to economic disaster. (I got the predicted response.)

So it surprises me that Osterholm is talking about needing to restart the economy.

That said, he has the same sort of credentials as the other guys who pushed this crap on us, so if he can convince the mushy middle that it's time to move back to sanity, I'm all for it.


He should get a credentialed critic and media-certified "expert" on board to provide the appropriate cover.

Exactly right, should have quoted this part. Osterholm can provide that cover. Whether he's willing to do it to help Trump - as it also helps the country - is another question.


The Black Gay Surgeon General is an anesthesiologist?

Count back from 100 Mr Zimmerman, I’m finna sleep you.

Posted by: Pinandpuller | April 10, 2020 at 08:22 PM




No. I have zero knowledge of the professionals in that field.

However, I do wonder if Pence (who got assigned to that problem fairly early) might have been unduly swayed and then have carried a tale of doom to the President. (Pence was my governor, and didn't strike me as a really bright guy, although earnest.)

Personally, I am so tired of Birx and Faucci that I don't care if the Bikers for Trump and Cowboys for Trump show up and drive them from the West Wing.


Good news from TX:


I was hoping Abbott would be the brave governor to start the positive cascade.  I had a feeling that the dam would start breaking after Easter.  

More prayer needed obviously but hang onto your hats...


Great job SBW



I think Pence is doing a great job, and I bet is all in with going back to work.


Interesting, Porch. I did a Bing search and didn't find much, except that on Feb. 9th (note the date--well after the xenophobic Orange Man said no more Chinavirus-bearing flights) he was saying this is no big deal and not much to be concerned about. But this podcast was from 3/28, and he was saying things like we did a lot of things because we didn't really know what we were dealing with, and that closing the schools was a bad idea, and (what made sense to me) that we can't shut it all down forever and we can't really contain it, and that people do die even without Covid). I have never heard of him before.
I would really like to avoid having to tell my lovely bride that, alas, he's full of shit like the rest of them. I was sort of thinking this might be a breakthrough here. Ah well...

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