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April 01, 2020

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Robin, Tiger Beat Pompom Girl Team Member

From Amom's New Neo link:

Not meant to be an inclusive list. And by “we,” I certainly don’t mean everyone.

(1) China is a bad actor.
(2) Trump was right about China.
(3) Borders are important.
(4) Trump was right about borders.
(5) We need to be more self-sufficient in the manufacture of vital goods.
(6) Trump was right about #5.
(7) Even in a crisis, the press’s top priority is to criticize Trump and the GOP.
(8) Trump was right about #7.

I don't think this lesson can be underestimated.

henry

TM, as far as I can tell, the IHME folks are jamming the Italy curve on everything. Is the US really comparable to Italy (land of underfunded socialized medicine and long embrace of Kung Flu to kick things off)? Is the rest of the really like the NYC MSA? That one assumption strikes me as over simplified.

Neo

The deputy prime minister of Japan says that the WHO should be renamed the ‘Chinese Health Organization’ for its role in helping Beijing cover-up the severity of the coronavirus outbreak.

Referring to a petition which now has almost 700,000 signatures calling on WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom to resign, Taro Aso tore into the organization for conspiring with China and failing to stop a global pandemic that could have been prevented.

“People think the World Health Organization should change its name. It shouldn’t be called the WHO, it should be renamed the Chinese Health Organization (CHO). This appeal is truly resonating with the people,” said Aso.

“Early on, if the WHO had not insisted to the world that China had no pneumonia epidemic, then everybody would have taken precautions,” he added, noting that Taiwan had to face coronavirus on its own because it was excluded from the WHO.

https://summit.news/2020/04/01/japanese-vp-the-who-should-be-renamed-the-chinese-health-organization/

Narciso

The lancet model was sobering but didnt extrapolate.

Narciso


Does anybody now how to play this game


https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2020/03/30/i-spent-a-day-in-the-coronavirus-driven-feeding-frenzy-of-n95-mask-sellers-and-buyers-and-this-is-what-i-learned/?fbclid=IwAR1hDiCNoCnkKun-BOR3KZVDWx9MlsYHXrup1smDP14s0JF_X7f_68gDsr0#115c330156d4

hrtshpdbox

Drs. Fauci and Brix are now forecasting 100,000 to 240,000 UDS deaths due to coronavirus IF we stick with the social distancing.

They're both nucking futz, it won't be 50,000 no matter how they try to inflate the number with questionable death certs, and Trump should fire them both for being Debbie Downers who are stuck on stupid.

- in other matters -

I give Bob Dylan a lot of latitude, because I'm a fan. So I've been trying to see past the obvious in his epic new 17-minute song ostensibly about the JFK assassination, "Murder Most Foul".

Off the top of my head, I can think of three other people in Dylan songs "they" were out to get - Reuben Hurricane Carter, George Jackson, and Joey Gallo. "They" blew away and cut down these questionable folk heroes, and here "they" are after JFK. Dylan is pretty much down with every strand of conspirighetti that Oliver Stone threw at the wall; it's a little unsettling to hear the fellow who wrote a great song about a killing, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll, now make references to the grassy knoll as if it's an important thing for him to talk about in 2020.

Voice-wise, he doesn't sound bad, considering, and maybe it will sink in after a few more listens. So far, though, his next longest song, the 11 minute 22 second "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands", is epic art compared to this new laundry list of everything that's happened in America (in Bob's view) since 1961.

Narciso

They were kicking that one around at althouse, it sounds kind of meh

Narciso

Joey gallo was the one shot by frank shannon that they know of.

henry

Thread

@leorahorowitz

In my 7 days on one of our (now 12!) non ICU #COVID19 units, I admitted 58 patients for COVID rule out, of whom 50 tested positive. Two died (DNR), 2 went to hospice, and 5 went to the ICU. That is… not my typical gen med service week. Following, some clinical observations.

https://twitter.com/leorahorwitzmd/status/1244795551595614210?s=21

jimmyk

At least they are putting themselves on the line now, so if the numbers do come in much lower, there should be some accountability. There won't be of course, just excuse-making ("We needed to err on the side of caution," "We saved more lives by alerting everyone to the danger," etc.). But the public will understand the reality.

And if they turn out to be right, we still won't know how much difference the lockdowns really made. Or at least there will be no acknowledgment of the possibility that they didn't make that much difference, just cost us $trillions and plunged millions into poverty.

peter

Bud Dolan is 79; about time the regression to mean process started.

Narciso

He was barely intelligible on the best of days

MissMarple2

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1245029457892605952

Mark Levin muses on why Cuomo is so popular. Many readers wonder the same thing.

peter

I would like to give a local report. I took a walk at lunch time yesterday around my company's Sunnyside-Long Island City area. The businesses along Queens Boulevard, normally bustling, are nearly completely shut down, save for the CVS. Dunkin' Donuts, all other restaurants except for a walk up pizza stand, and McDonald's are closed; Irish pubs shuttered; hardly any traffic. Extremely light traffic on the L.I.E.
I have the unenviable task of helping management by drafting termination letters. Feel like I should be wearing an executioner's hood. My company is an essential service, so I am working in the office, but they have furloughed many people and most of the company's cash flow is way down as contracts are either terminated or renegotiated severely downward. The conmpany is giving them severance pay, but what do these workers do when that runs out?

In other news,
Bestselling Author Laura Hillenbrand has COVID, she describes going through some very harrowing symptoms; singer John Prine, who was close to dead is closer.

And my two local liquor stores are both closed, although one in Long Island City is still open.

Peace out

sbwaters

Bud Dolan! I like that!

Neo

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/covid-19/

1524 in trial/ 1 death

Neo

NYPOST: Andrew Cuomo's nipples take our minds off coronavirus

Narciso

Goggles do nothing

James D.

And if they turn out to be right, we still won't know how much difference the lockdowns really made. Or at least there will be no acknowledgment of the possibility that they didn't make that much difference, just cost us $trillions and plunged millions into poverty.

Of course there won't.

I see a lot of comments all over social media about "not killing grandma for the sake of the economy".

Maybe what we are doing is worth it, if it truly will save a million lives, or even 250,000.

But where is the line? Is it worth bankrupting 100,000 small businesses and throwing 25,000,000 people out of work and wiping out an entire school year for every child in the country if the # of lives saved was 10,000 instead? What about 25,000? 50,000?

What makes me angriest is that I know, without the slightest doubt, that none of the people giving all these lockdown orders are even considering the question. ALL they are considering is what will make them look good in the polls, right this minute, without the slightest regard to the vast consequences of their actions.

henry

James D, don’t forget their self inoculation of helicopter money (with strings so no one can use any of it) to avoid blame for shit canning Main Street.

henry

@vickimckenna

"Danica Patrick gives tips from her on keeping calm and finding your passion in stressful times" Does she have any tips for Small Town, USA that is watching government destroy its families' livelihoods?

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1245344794848694272?s=21

GUS

JAMESD what will the fall out be, for the GOVERNMENT usurping the CONSTITUTION and taking our RIGHTS AWAY. There is no CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION for this, and this will not end well.
How many will die, in the coming CIVIL WAR.

Melinda

Details at Treas.gov.

https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/top-priorities/cares-act/assistance-for-small-businesses


MissMarple2

https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/29/viral-prerequisites-and-nationalist-lessons-in-time-of-plague/#disqus_thread

Victor Davis Hanson

Another Bob

Willowed...

“nearing understanding about management.”

SB, I am a manager. Not life-and-death of people to be sure, but life-and-death of things and efforts people do care about and spend a lot of money on. I make decisions with incomplete information all the time. This is what managers do - if information was perfect anyone could do it.

Bad managers fail to consider opportunity cost - the cost you bear by not doing something you could have done. That may have been what happened here, or at least the opportunity cost was badly misestimated.

And the further this goes on, the more it’ll start looking like another bad manager trait, decisions based on sunk costs - you have to keep doing a bad thing because you spent a lot on it.

All of this apparent mismanagement seems due to the involvement of politics. A population that thinks life should be risk free and expects government to take on all their problems. Slime politicians like Deblasio who are about personal gain and looking for political edges. An ignorant and self-aggrandizing news media uninterested in truth. I don’t think Trump could have done much different in that environment, I’m not sure that Trump seriously wanted to do anything different.

None of the above means I have all the answers, or even some of them. I’m just some rando spouting on the internet.

sbwaters

James D., you ask a lot of rhetorical questions but provide neither answers nor a path to get to decent answers. You also assume facts not in evidence. I can't even decide what you want to be done.

Otherwise, I appreciate your frustration and wish you to have a better day. Me? I'm going to work in the yard.

--

Oh, in addition to the prayers for Buddy that you all kindly gave, my wife's BIL, Frank, in his 60s, could use some for recovery or peaceful passing. He just went into hospice yesterday after treatment for bladder cancer. A lifetime smoker, he previously had veins replaced all over. He may no longer have the energy to fight.

He had encyclopedic knowledge of blues and, I guess, vinyls to match.

henry

I knew they were crazy, just not this crazy.

@vickimckenne

The Madison council just gave all the authority of the people to govern themselves to the MAYOR. "...allows the mayor to amend, create or adopt city ordinances ...It also gives the mayor the power to suspend enforcement of ordinances, extend orders."

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1245346781749284865?s=21

Another Bob

I recommend Narc’s link above.

America First Trump ought to ban export of medical PPE today.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

"Caveats about the model to follow. Very briefly, it relied heavily on data from the early-stricken areas, to wit, Wuhan and Italy. The reliability of the Wuhan data is in serious doubt."

But Wuhan is likely a significant underestimate.
And Italy has surged past the likely US ratios.
So ...not that interesting.

MissMarple2

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/informal-discussions-begin-9-11-style-commission-coronavirus-response-n1173516?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

I am unsure whether these "informal talks" are actually happening or whether this is NBC's effort to nudge the Democrats in that direction.

Despicable, either way.

mike in houston

It's the Bee

U.S.—Teachers at government schools have raised their concerns that the recent closure of their institutions will have a damaging effect on students.

In particular, the nation's educators are worried that the longer the schools are closed, the more likely it is that students will begin thinking for themselves, learn life skills away from the government school system, and realize how much more they learn at home.
Teachers Urge Government To Reopen Schools Before Students Learn To Think For Themselves


"We must reopen as soon as possible -- before they regain their ability to have independent thoughts," said New York 4th-grade teacher Ms. Jenny Mudd. "This is an urgent crisis. We realize we have to do our part to prevent the spread of the virus, but we must also prevent the spread of unapproved ideas. There's a balance there."

"Reopen the schools before it is too late."

https://babylonbee.com/news/teachers-warn-parents-arent-properly-equipped-to-indoctrinate-children

Melinda

mike-

Don't forget, in some cities, the first to file unemployment claims are idled teachers still under contract.

Narciso

Crimethink is viral.

D

I sense a lot of frustration and sadness on the blog , these last couple of days.
President Trump is a glass half full guy.
I echo that sentiment.
I believe what was presented yesterday was a worse case scenario.
Each day we will know a little more.
Keeping busy helps as does prayer.It is teaching me to be more patient.
Larry David has a funny video about now is your chance to just sit on the couch and watch tv.
Comics are presenting a show on Twitter to keep people’s spirits up.
Better days are coming, try to stay positive.
Just my 2 cents.

D

Mel:
Yes teachers will be able to double dip.

D

MM:
Dems spinning their wheels.
They can investigate all they want, they still aren’t getting the White House back, When we take back the House, and keep the Senate I am looking forward to putting Baby Pelosi in a corner.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Hey peter, sad times.
Our lawyer daughter lives in a tall building on Jackson Ave in Long Island City. The partners at her law firm are tres happy. People are sitting home bored with nothing to do but work. The WFH thing is totes sustainable for them though they were wary of WFH in the past.

MissMarple2

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/twitter-killed-journalism-just-by-letting-journalists-be-themselves

James D.

Sbw, what I want is the slightest indication that our secret leaders, especially at the state and local level, are giving any thought at all to the costs of what they are doing, or that they have any inclination to relinquish the near-absolute power over our lives that they have claimed in the name of fighting the virus.

Do you see any of that in the behavior of Cuomo or Northam or Hogan or any of the other governors? I certainly don’t.

Melinda

MR-

Do they owe dues on the UE checks? Was always curious about that....or does it depend on the local?

Jack is Back!

We had a cold front with thunder, lightning and rain move through last night. Our average high had been around 85F and today it is 60F.

So, it looks like CoVid19 has got a stay of "warmer weather" execution.

Extraneus

We need a 9/11 style commission to investigate the Chinese response and that of the WHO. Those people are evil and knowingly spread the virus. Most everyone else is doing the best they can, and the domestic blame game is counterproductive.

Jack is Back!

From the Daily Torygraph:

I wonder what the % is for Docs and Nurses here or more specifically i the NY metro area?

"It is a frightening statistic. Around one in four NHS doctors are off work sick or in isolation due to coronavirus, the head of the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) has said. Professor Andrew Goddard, president of the RCP, said about 25 per cent of the doctor workforce is off, either with coronavirus or because a family member or housemate is ill. And there are claims nurses on some coronavirus wards are being put at risk by caring for patients without any protective equipment at all. It comes as a further 180 people who tested positive for Covid-19 have died, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in the UK to 1,408. Read the latest in our coronavirus liveblog, which also reveals how the Prince of Wales is out of self-isolation after he tested positive last week."

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Sorry, terrible photo through the car window.
I'm in a Target parking lot charging the wife's car at a Tesla SuperCharge station. Big trucks pulling in to deliver stuff to the loading dock.
One truck had this super cute blonde driver. She was schlepping a couple of trailers around. Unhook one move the other. Unhook the other rehook the first. Totally confident. Totally competent.

Why did I think of Iggy?

Extraneus

Each day we will know a little more.

Today is Day 8 of the NY clinical trial...

Melinda

In case anyone wants to know what was floated last night by the very busy House Leadership:

NBC News
@NBCNews
Preliminary talks have begun on Capitol Hill about the possibility of creating a panel to scrutinize the Trump admin.'s response to the coronavirus pandemic that would be modeled on the 9/11 Commission, according to 4 people familiar with the discussions. nbcnews.to/2JsWjA5

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1245210285557907456

[Maloney & Pelosi, for TSAH.]

KevlarKid

planting a Meyers lemon tree today AND "paint my mailbox blue."

Taj Majal_Mailbox

Narciso

Whydoyoi assiciate alcindor with ceviche kev.

KevlarKid

Pelosi's 80, right?

Melinda

Still, KK.

RattlerGator

When the storm swirls, I have to come here to read some good back and forth. JOM still delivers, IMHO.

* * *

Well, I was wrong, badly wrong, about this whole virus thing fading away in a few weeks.

Posted by: Another Bob | April 01, 2020 at 12:58 AM

Perhaps. I'm waiting for the After Action Reports. I will be unsparing in my critique and highly doubtful about this flattening the curve BS.

I've looked at some numbers representing a decade of data. I'm not going to write anything now, the President seems to be handling the politics magnificently, but after this is over

. . .

some people will need to answer some questions and any response along the lines of "better safe than sorry" gets a neutron bomb dropped on them.

Better safe than sorry *is* the road to perdition on this issue.

The globalists have calibrated it so; luckily, Trump is giving them JUST enough while effectively countering their economic destruction angle. Planting the seed for infrastructure spending? Beautiful. Borrowing at practically 0% interest? Beautiful. Helicopter money? You damn right. I saw a stock trading guy the other day say (and seriously lament the fact that) we now own the world.

As the fiat money of last resort . . . maintain confidence in the face of doom and gloom. Print it as we engage the re-set. There will be no crash.

It has been a remarkable "in command" performance by Trump. He didn't look defeated at all to me. In fact, he looked remarkably confident and in command. So remarkable, they are saying NO MAS, NO MAS !!!

* * *

Better days are coming, try to stay positive.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: D | April 01, 2020 at 09:57 AM

Agreed. A multitude of bad actors have tossed a bushel of lemons. A lesser President simply could not have managed it. Trump has.

Faith, patience and vigilance. He's giving these people, some of them well-meaning, benefits of the doubt he can afford to give right now since we're knee-deep in *all* of it.

He's rightfully confident. We should be too. Even Henry and all of the people lamenting the helicopter money.

sbwaters

any inclination to relinquish the near-absolute power over our lives

James D., the difference between now and yesterday is that we see what Dear Leaders have always done — certainly in New York. It's a difference of visibility, not brazenness.

In conversation with Speaker Sheldon Silver, on his elevation to the throne and well before his arrest and conviction, I said to him, "You have an opportunity to establish a real legacy, changing the way things are done in Albany."

Silver replied, "I'm not ready to set a legacy."

Silver "missed" his opportunity.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

"a panel to scrutinize the Trump admin.'s response to the coronavirus pandemic"

If only the whole nation had the benefit of the wise stewardship displayed in NY state and NY city.

Jack is Back!

How one enterprising lady is trying to solve the TP problem:)

sbwaters

Some state governors: "He is not allowed to rise until the end of April."

Meanwhile, I'll paint the lintel and the side posts.

henry

sbw, use peanut butter

Jane

Beautiful day here. Just had my happy coffee and I’m optimistic as ever. I see no point in being anything else!

MissMarple2

https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/31/even-on-covid-19-left-and-right-are-divided/

Dennis Prager

Jack is Back!

How to get to heavan the Irish way:)

HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN FROM IRELAND: A True Story from an Irish Sunday School Teacher

*************************************************

I was testing children in my Dublin Sunday school class to see if they understood the concept of getting to heaven. I asked them, "If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale and gave all my money to the church, would that get me into heaven?"

NO, the children answered!

If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the garden, and kept everything tidy, would that get me into heaven?'

Again, the answer was 'NO!'

If I gave sweets to all the children, and loved my husband, would that get me into heaven?'

Again, they all answered 'NO!'

I was just bursting with pride for them. I continued, 'Then how can I get into heaven?'

A little boy shouted out: 'YUV GOTTA BE FOOKiN' DEAD.'

It's a curious race, the Irish. Brings a tear to the eye, doesn't it?

D

Mel:
I only worked in the public schools for 3 years in the early 90’s.
We paid our dues separately. Don’t know about UE checks because I never filed for it.

MissMarple2

I sure wish we would get some sunshine and warmer temps. If only I could work outside I wouldn't feel so cooped up.

Unfortunately, it's another gloomy, overcast and cold day. Even the dogs don't want to go outside except for necessity.

henry

LA (city of) tested to see if people with “flu” had Coronavirus. 5% did. Not sure what that does to models.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/01/untangling-flu-and-sars-cov-2-prevalence/

Dave (in MA)

7News Boston WHDH@7News·
Truck hauling toilet paper catches fire on Texas interstate


HUTCHINS, Texas (AP) — A tractor-trailer hauling toilet paper crashed and caught fire near Dallas early Wednesday, spilling the hot commodity all over an interstate,...
whdh.com

Melinda

Just something I've always wanted to know. Thanks, MR.

The Infamous Ignatz

Willowed;
--but no bats live w/in 900 miles of Wuhan--

1. Is there anyplace on earth besides presumably Antarctica that is 900 miles from where bats live?
2. If they're talking particularly about the Horseshoe Bat which is believed to be the one that harbors the SARS like viruses and if it does live 900 miles from Wuhan I'm almost certain a dead bat can be transported 900 miles.

The Infamous Ignatz

Also willowed;
--Does the IHME group have a link showing how their estimates move over time? The re-estimate every morning, curious how much the numbers & confidence intervals change.--

I couldn't find one. That's why I took a screenshot of yesterday's page. It's not interactive when archived but the graphs are still there so I can compare. I also wrote down the estimates and range for new deaths for today, April 8th and April 15th.

Dave (in MA)

Re: the Morning Homewreckers...

VBTheWise@VBTheWise·
This is the political equivalent of “I was at Clemens’ 20 strikeout game.” Everybody was telling us in late Feb to go to Chinatown, but now somehow they knew in Jan...
Steve Robinson@BigSteve207 ·
.@JoeNBC says "everyone" saw coronavirus coming in early January, but he never tweeted about it until March 25. Odd, that. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3AJoeNBC%20coronavirus&src=typed_query

Extraneus
Scientists from South China University of Technology in Guangzhou wrote and published a paper speculating that a centre for disease control near a Wuhan seafood market may be ground zero for the virus.

Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao wrote that the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control and Prevention was the possible source because it “hosted animals in laboratories for research purposes”, including bats, and was “within 280 metres of the Huanan Seafood Market where a number of early infections were reported”.

In the paper, titled The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus, researchers explained that “41 people in Wuhan were found to have the acute respiratory syndrome and 27 of them had contact with Huanan Seafood Market”.

They wrote: “According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market.”

The research facility was also adjacent to the Union Hospital where the first group of doctors were infected.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/tucker-carlson-chinese-researchers-confirm-coronavirus-linked-to-horseshoe-bat-studies-at-one-of-two-wuhan-research-institutes-video/

Extraneus

Good video from Tucker Carlson last night at that link.

clarice

well, I retrieved the box of masks we bought for the anthrax scare and they are N-95 facial lock masks! This is like finding lost treasure these days.

henry

Guess who is signing on to Pelosi’s commission. (Thread)

@jeffsessions

I am calling today for Congress to immediately establish a Select Committee on China to lead the investigation. This Select Committee should be given the authority to wield the full investigative powers, including the power to compel witnesses, of the United States Congress.

https://twitter.com/jeffsessions/status/1245350069722906624?s=21

We have used these types of committees before at critical moments in our nation’s history, including after the attack on Pearl Harbor, after the Watergate scandal, after the Iran-Contra Affair, and others.

There should be severe consequences for China if it refuses to cooperate as we uncover the full extent of Beijing’s guilt.

If China hasn’t been lying to the world about the Wuhan Virus, it should have nothing to fear. We need to call the Chinese Communist Party’s bluff.

Melinda

Of course, here comes the next show!

Jeff Carlson
@themarketswork
Once we've recovered, we need a commission to look into your peddling of the Russia nonsense.

Perhaps no other politician has pushed as many lies over the last 3+ years as you have.

And your myopic focus on Russia kept eyes away from China.

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff
After Pearl Harbor and 9/11, we looked at what went wrong to learn from our mistakes.

Once we've recovered, we need a nonpartisan commission to review our response and how we can better prepare for the next pandemic.

I’m working on a bill to do that.

washingtonpost.com/opinions/after…

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1245360128611606530

D

Dave in Mass:
Their whole strategy is to make up a phony story that President Trump knew ahead of time and didn’t do anything.
It is like the Russia hoax.
They don’t have any facts so they are making up the narrative to harm our President.
As I told MM , it isn’t going to work because the Dem mayor of New York told everyone to participate in the Chinese New Year and the Louisiana Governor let them celebrate Mardi Gras.

Ken Danieli

Birx cites the IHME model and, as she says daily, she has her own team of modelers that use that and other data to make their own models. As for the Wuhan data, Birx also says that the Italy data differs and she is well aware of the differences. I would not imply that she is using Wuhan data without appropriate scrutiny, as this blogger does. I think she also said that the observed data in the US differs also from Italy and is in some ways worse. I pay attention.

henry

This makes sense. Use poll workers that aren’t at risk elderly people.

@vickimckenna

Gov. Evers to use National Guard members to work the polls amid massive shortage of workers

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1245364371003498496?s=21

MissMarple2

https://cbs4indy.com/news/isdh-reports-total-of-65-deaths-2565-cases-of-covid-19-in-state/

The story has a breakdown by age and sex for both positive test cases and deaths.

Melinda

Another path to the Oz "Prince" has appeared:

Anthony Klan
@Anthony_Klan
Good get: Former Chinese military officer Kuang Yuanping worked with Chinese Communist Party agencies + group with links to organised crime to export tonnes of Oz medical supplies to Wuhan. Now part of CCP’s soft power + political influence campaign in Oz. smh.com.au/national/forme…

https://twitter.com/Anthony_Klan/status/1245124678630297600

Jack is Back!

henry,

I was thinking about the Wuhan labs and whether they released this virus as a bio-weapon but then if they did, why not a virus that is just as deadly on military age like 18-35 y,o. as it apparentally is on those over 65-85?

Melinda

Also, MorningJoke's already getting pantsed:

Kayleigh McEnany
@kayleighmcenany
“I believe @realDonaldTrump acted VERY, VERY EARLY.”

- Dr. Anthony Fauci pic.twitter.com/583fuLPa7N

https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1245134855521910784

[From last night, in anticipation of the new "unprepared/willful disregard by DJT" meme being rolled out.]

Buckeye

Would that be Jeff Sessions, private citizen?

henry

Thread for Zoom users:

@Random_walker

Let's make this simple: Zoom is malware.

https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/1244987617676050434?s=21

Buckeye

One truck had this super cute blonde driver. She was schlepping a couple of trailers around. Unhook one move the other. Unhook the other rehook the first. Totally confident. Totally competent.

Best story so far about having to stop and charge a Tesla:)

sbwaters

Clarice: I retrieved the box of masks

They are undoubtedly expired so you should probably send them to me.

GUS

Land of the FREE and home of the BRAVE SOLDIERS WORKING WISCONSIN'S ELECTIONS.

Melinda

Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
Still waiting for prosecutions. Or even firings.

Judicial Watch 🔎 @JudicialWatch
@TomFitton: Even DOJ Acknowledged FISA Warrants to Spy on @realDonaldTrump Were "Garbage!" #SpyGate pscp.tv/w/cVNSgzFheWpW…

We're all in the same boat.

Extraneus

Sessions was calling for a commission to investigate China, not Trump.

MissMarple2

Buckeye,

Do not get me started on Jeff Sessions.

GUS

Clarice, be careful not to publish your address.

Buckeye

I think someone in the Wuhan lab just unwittingly sold an infected lab animal.

Like a janitor.

Melinda

Bo Snerdley
@BoSnerdley
Clever disinfecting device to be tested against coronavirus for use on N95 masks, household goods fxn.ws/3bIGwJq #FoxNews

https://twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1245368938730586113

Captain Hate

Ralph has never looked better

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1244709560021069825

MissMarple2

Extraneus,

China isn't going to let us investigate one damn thing about them.

Besides, they lie about everything, anyway.

What I would like to see is an investigation to determine whether there was collusion between the Democrats and the Chinese and whether any reporters/TV networks were bribed.

Another Bob

"James D., you ask a lot of rhetorical questions but provide neither answers nor a path to get to decent answers."

You probably put me in that category too SBW.

One suggestion (but it might be too late) is to do the lockdowns by region, state or even county. This needs to be coupled with fairly tight restrictions on travel in or out of locked-down areas.

But I can hear the bitching about it already.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Clarice should write about the other countries:
BoJo threatening the HuaWei contract
The Japan minister quoted above
The idiot Spanish minister who wants closer ties to China medical oriducts companies
Czech Netherlands etc defective masks and test kits from China
And, drum roll, Taiwan success due to not being in WHO thus not falling for lies.

Travel advice was posted by @WHO on 10 January. Based on currently available information, WHO does not recommend any restriction of travel or trade.

World Health Organization Western Pacific World Health Organization Western Pacific (@WHOWPRO) January 16, 2020
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According to the latest information we have, there is no clear evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission and there are no infections reported among health care workers.

World Health Organization Western Pacific World Health Organization Western Pacific (@WHOWPRO) January 16, 2020

Melinda

Coincidence! I swear!

Mark Elliott
@markmobility
NEW: @SenatorLoeffler's stock sales were huge -- at least $18.7 million -- after she learned of the coronavirus. She also sold shares in retail stores Lululemon and T.J. Maxx and invested in a company that makes COVID-19 protective garments. ajc.com/news/state--re…

https://twitter.com/markmobility/status/1245368546693197831

Captain Hate

One suggestion (but it might be too late) is to do the lockdowns by region, state or even county.

Lockdowns by county make more sense to me than statewide.

MissMarple2

Melinda,

WHY would she sell those shares and purchase others when everyone knows she is under scrutiny?

GUS

How many are aware that TAIWAN is not a member of the U.N.? China won't allow it.

Extraneus
From the standpoint of global governance, China was bound, as a party to the 2005 International Health Regulations, to “provide expedited, timely, accurate, and sufficiently detailed information to [the World Health Organization] about . . . potential public health emergencies” such as the Wuhan coronavirus. Instead of doing so in this case, the Red Chinese actively misled the WHO about the crucial fact that the pathogen is transmitted between humans.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/dont-let-china-off-the-hook.php

peter

jim, sunnyvale @ 10:02, when I commuted to high school fifty years ago, I would pass the Vernon-Jackson subway stop twice a day and never got out to look around. When I was in law school, working a day job in Manhattan, I would park my car in Long Island City which was a pretty rough area then. Now Jackson Avenue is full of beautiful new high rise apartment buildings and very upscale (although parking, and shops few.) Good luck to your daughter if she is lucky enough (and bright enough) to work at a "big law" law firm.

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