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April 21, 2020

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Pinandpuller

"Welcome to Pelletier Nation, where the only 'science' that matters is the one that allows leftist politicians to detain and control a disfavored demographic."
#COVID19 #lockdown

https://twitter.com/davidcolestein/status/1252669763500691459?s=21

Dave (in MA)

I didn't use my commuting car for so long that I experienced the flat spot phenomenon for the first time over the weekend when I went out for some food.

henry

WI just locked in for Biden.

https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/milwaukee-common-council-votes-unanimously-to-send-every-registered-voter-absentee-ballot-application

henry

@maciverwisc

Breaking News - WI Legislature files “an original action in the Wisconsin State Supreme Court challenging the governor’s extension of the Safer at Home order through May 26th.”

https://twitter.com/maciverwisc/status/1252678151500713984?s=21

lyle

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/04/why-would-michelle-obama-be-bidens-vp-when-she-daniel-greenfield/

Big Mike has too much to lose as veep to Joementia.

Extraneus

Well I bought some USO. Oil can't stay this low forever, I hope. [gulp]

Captain Hate

Sean Penn is claiming he's going to patrol the streets with a shotgun to enforce quarantine "like he did after Katrina."

I think he just rolled out of his friend's van in a cloud of smoke in the school parking lot again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2020 03:22 PM (KZzsI)

Captain Hate

Big Mike wouldn't be able to take one for the team when Joementia starts with the Corn Pop crap. It might be funnier than anything SNL ever did.

GUS

Is the ABORTION CULT going to get out and protest KAVANAUGH. I've got a phone and a pen.

lyle

This is hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J9jDoaTA

lyle

Spicoli with a shotgun roaming the empty mall looking for miscreants. Someone greenlight this for immediate film production!

GUS

Sean Penn is riding shotgun with his pal Hugo Chavez.....Mr Haaaaaand.

MissMarple2

lyle,

Did the same ad agency make all of those ads and then bill separately for each one?

Old Lurker

As to Lyle & DrJ on spending endowments, I gave a mini seminar here a few weeks back about how the Total Endowment which is shown on the asset side of the ledger of a non-profit is balanced on Liability & Equity side by three endowment "buckets" which together total the asset. Those buckets are "Permanently Restricted", "Temporarily Restricted", and "Unrestricted".

The Board can spend the third bucket on anything it likes. The temporary bucket includes restrictions that stem from a bunch of reasons, and those can only be spent by the Board if those conditions have been met. A board can go to jail for spending the Permanently Restricted bucket unless backed with a very good court order allowing it.

These figures are always available to the public.

All this is called "Fund Accounting" which is like good old GAAP but for non profits.

matt - deplore me if you must

Didn't Sean Penn give up all of his guns for Charlize Theron? I read something about a sculpture using the guns to make some kind of statement.

It was 4-20 yesterday, so maybe he was just stoned.

Tom R

Good intentions bad execution.

https://twitter.com/louisbien/status/1252639146759409670?s=21

Dave (in MA)

I'm more worried that Big Mike's package would be swinging around the White House for another term before long, after a brief period of "democracy sakes second fiddle".

Jane

Just got back from the doctor. Surgery May 1. I liked her very much. Just bought a massage table on Amazon so I can lay face down without smothering.

lyle

OL, The College of Idaho Endowment was given a gift several years ago from a libertarian donor that went into the “permanent” bucket to fund lectures from prominent economists. CofI decided instead to expand curriculum with the gift. The guy had to go to court to...get his gift back. No one went to jail. I take your point but DrJ’s and my points still stand. There still is a lot of shenanigans going on in university endowments. Don’t get me started on what the University of Idaho attempted to do with permanently endowed funds around 15 years ago. Flat out criminal and no one went to jail nor even lost a law license.

lyle

Good for you, Jane. Best of luck.

henry

Pic of Fauci with Nostrils Waxman and Pelosi. Click at own risk.

https://twitter.com/charlesortel/status/1252682890158190594?s=21

henry

Jane, how long will you be face down? Sounds mighty inconvenient.

Tom R

Can someone confirm if this is an accurate statement or not?

Federal law requires all prosecutors, judges, and government officials to accept the sworn statements of a government official as true and valid unless they have proof otherwise.

DrJ

Please talk with Marcia Horn about what ASU did with a supposedly restricted endowment. Her family's experience is not unique.

Marcia used to come by regularly, and hasn't lately. She is a good person.

lyle

That UofI crap was an attempt to open up a Boise campus in order to capture enrollment that they can’t get being located well up north in the panhandle. It was a flagrant violation of state code and foundation bylaws. No one was even prosecuted much less indicted. The governor at the time was a former student government president at UofI. Surely that was merely coincidental...

Okay, I’ll stop now.

lyle

In better news:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Old Lurker

All that does happen, Lyle. I know. Talk to Princeton about their legal fees when they tried similar things to CofI.

Sometimes Boards are just stupid and do not know the rules. Sometimes they know the rules but don't expect to get sued for it. Sometimes they are right.

I have given that little rundown to boards I have been on in DC where I served with high profile people who while they did not know the rules until I walked them through them, the thought of being named in WaPo for a fiduciary failure scared the crap out of all of them so it never was an issue. In a couple of cases those handcuffs forced some very painful other choices.

In addition, I was the senior finance trustee when we borrowed tens of millions (50-60?) on an unsecured basis from our friendly bank. I can guarantee you those bankers understood exactly what I said about which assets can be spent (or claimed) for what purposes.

jimmyk

Yale and Princeton got into 15 or so years ago over spending restricted (by the donor) funds on some purpose other than specified by the donors. I don't recall how those cases turned out.

Jack Lillywhite

Can’t get it to c&p but according to AP ( I know, I know:), Hydroxychloroquine is not working. People who take it are dying.

I still say sunshine, warm weather, fresh air, golf and vodka are the only known prophylactics for both sex and corona virus.

jimmyk

Oh good, another $480 billion moving from some of our pockets into others' pockets.

caro

Good, Jane. I’m glad you liked the doc.

Jane

Henry,

Betwen 2 days and a week. It used to be 6 weeks so I'm very lucky! However, after this I will start getting cataracts.

jimmyk

Hydroxychloroquine is not working. People who take it are dying.

I've been hearing similar reports, but of course the same chant of "what about double-blind trials" applies to negative results as positive. People are also dying without HCQ. And controlling for other factors, dosage, etc. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if AP lumped chloroquine together with hydroxycholorine (less toxic).

henry

Plus you have a massage table. A week of that will feel like a year.

Marlene

Good afternoon! I've been lurking for a couple of days because I'm reading a book about the 1918 pandemic to improve my mood. :) I'm starting to understand the "Roaring Twenties" because after the trauma of the pandemic and the Great War,everyone went crazy.
In other news, we noticed that Scout was lame and lethargic just recently. Hubby brought him to the vet today and the vet diagnosed arthritis. :( He's only nine years old. He's on doggy ibuprofen for now.

Pinandpuller

Trumpism is merely the Republic on a ventilator awaiting the Globalist organ harvesters.

Dave (in MA)

Wow, Jane.

Dave (in MA)

RG87 unretires in order to be traded to TB and rejoin TB12.

Jack Lillywhite

I have a folding massage table in my home gym. Great way to do resistance band stretches. I have one of those vibrating massage cylindrical massage balls that do wonders for backs especially sciatica.

Unfortunately, it’s in Southampton and not here in Florida.

Open it up Ron, Gol dern it

GUS

People who go to hospitals are dying.
People who drink water are dying.
Hitler died after eating oatmeal.

SCIENCE!!!!

jimmyk

Sure enough, there's a Bloomberg piece with the headline: "U.S. Virus Treatment Guidelines Reject Trump-Backed Drug Combo"

But if you go into the piece, it says something much weaker:

definitive clinical trial data are needed to identify optimal treatments for this disease,” the NIH panel said in its report, giving broad recommendations for the treatment of Covid-19 patients.

The panel said that no drug has been proven effective for use in patients with the diseases caused by the new coronavirus, and didn’t endorse the use of any other therapies outside of clinical trials. The panel’s recommendations for now focus on supportive care, such as oxygen.

Marlene

Jane! We probably won't see you before we leave! I'm upset! I wanted to bring you one of the plants on my lanai,because you really need more plants. :)

Jack Lillywhite

Dave,

As a righty, TB needs whoever was LT## to retire and join the Bucs.

But I do intend to go over to Tampa if ther is a season.

Extraneus

RG87 unretires in order to be traded to TB and rejoin TB12.

Interesting.

henry

Since the 2020 season will be MaddenBall, that trade makes sense.

Marlene

Jack,did you see that Tommy was kicked out of a park in Tampa while working out?

Buckeye

DrJ

When I was a kid, my mom took me to meet George Szell. She played violin in the local Symphony and Szell was friends with the conductor.

He came for some fund raising event, and I got to attend. At the time my mom probably hoped I would be inspired.

Alas, inspiration is no substitute for talent:)

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

DrJ: On conductors, you have to consider the instrument (the orchestra) and its history. For example, Fritz Reiner built the Chicago Symphony, and Georg Solti built on it. The same sort of thing is true for the builders Szell at Cleveland, and Ormandy in Philadelphia.

It was new to me to hear Chicago named as perhaps the foremost symphony in the world. Is that possible in a cultural backwater like America?

I would have assumed European leadership.

Dave (in MA)

NE reportedly includes a 7 in the deal and gets Tampa's 4 in return.

lyle

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/04/21/the-economy-doesnt-need-government-help-to-reopen/

Nope.

henry

In theory, briefing at 5:00. Pence was in Madison today (GE Healthcare ventilator plant), so he won’t be there.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

lyle

Is the NFL draft still on, then?

Neo

BREAKING: It is being reported that the Gates Foundation, World Health Organization and Wuhan Institute of Virology have all been hacked and thousands of emails, passwords, and documents have been leaked online.


Proceed with caution

DrJ

Jim,

Chicago under Solti arguably is the best Symphony Orchestra ever known. They were spectacular.

Buckeye,

Alas, inspiration is no substitute for talent:)

I sure understand that one, particularly when I sit down at the piano. :)

Jane

WOW! Gronk is going to join Brady in Tampa! And I live in Florida! How cool!

lyle

Alas, inspiration is no substitute for talent:)

The great Andres Segovia said something similar to that of Francisco Tarrega 100 years ago.

Jane

Marlene,

When are you leaving? I'm certainly not going anywhere!

Dave (in MA)
And I live in Florida!
I understand they used that as leverage to convince Gronk.
Captain Hate

Why wouldn't the draft still be on? That stupid combine crap still made Tom Brady a 6th round draft choice and Kurt Warner undrafted.

Jane

Dave come down and visit. I'll get tickets!

lyle

Moar Big Mike:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/21/joe-biden-says-hed-take-michelle-obama-as-his-running-mate-in-a-heartbeat-shes-brilliant/

If you read down for the twit responses, it’s all the same: Big Mike ends up prez in a landslide.

lyle

Update on that New York Post link at 4:14:

The inundation of off-color texts was so large the city had to temporarily shut down the service,” the Post reports.

Perfect.

matt - deplore me if you must

yesterday evening I sat in on a University of Washington tele teaching course on Covid 19 that my girlfriend is taking for her NP. Information was current as of yesterday.

There is a study that covers 2000 individuals in various locations on the West Coast to try to determine the efficacy of the Hydroquinine treatment protocol. It seems very well thought out and is being done in cooperation with several other universities, including UCLA.

So the jury is still definitely out on that one.

One of the lecturers was a statistician who discuss how difficult it is to correlate the numbers from different sources. It's a hell of a job. Different reporting criteria; delays in reporting, double-reporting, etc. The situation is chaotic.

MissMarple2

Press briefing link. Hasn't started yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-LdYjES8z0

jimmyk

The inundation of off-color texts was so large the city had to temporarily shut down the service

I just hope the obscenities were directed at DeBlasio. And maybe a few for Cuomo as well.

Extraneus

From lyle's 4:43, it'll be fascinating to compare the different ways the states choose to open, and how successful they are. Like the author, I'm betting that CA's blue-ribbon central-planning committee blows it.

DrJ

Here's one of the classical Chicago sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbEusFcxfc

It is big Wagner -- Tannhäuser -- but they do it well. Of course I love Herseth.

Old Lurker

Matt,

Tally the number of dead people.

Do a statistically valid sample of antibody tests and multiply the % positive by 330B.

Tally the number of unused respirators and ICU beds v the total of each.

Apply simple arithmetic.

Done.

Tom R

One thing Sundance has always been good at is creating timelines. In light of the Whitaker revelation here is one of his better opeds.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/02/19/how-long-before-we-hear-about-fbi-recordings-in-the-white-house/

Here Sundance asks a great question:

If they (the FBI) truly believed a foreign adversary was in control of the Trump administration; a claim they already made to the FISA court; why wouldn’t the Obama intelligence apparatus be wiretapping the White House?

Since we now know the FBI and CIA knew up front the Steele dossier was based on Russian disinformation, it seems pretty likely to me that one reason the Obama administration lied to the FISA court was because they wanted to bug the White House and continue spying on Trump after he took office.

The key unanswered question is who told Trump about the bugs?


matt - deplore me if you must

Not that easy, OL. There's been a lot of double counting (one number one day, revised number the next). This is happening on both deaths and cases overall.

The NYC decision to report all related cases as Covid 19, as well as different methodologies from all over the world make it very difficult to get good numbers.

lyle

It appears they were all directed at DiBlasio.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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I will be having a White House Press Conference today at 5:30 P.M. Thank you!

MissMarple2

onald J. Trump
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Great new book just out by the Former Director of Ice, Tom Homan: “Defend the Border and Save Lives: Solving Our Most Important Humanitarian and Security Crisis.” Great guy, get your copy today!

Extraneus

FNS Denies Requests to Waive Food Stamp Eligibility Requirements for College Students

The Department of Agriculture’s Food and Nutrition Service (FNS) has denied dozens of states’ requests to waive food stamp eligibility requirements for college students.

In order to qualify for food stamps, which is formally known as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), college students must first meet income and asset limits, household qualifications, and immigration status requirements. Students attending college less than half-time can then qualify under standard SNAP rules.

College students enrolled more than half-time may still be able to get SNAP benefits if they meet one of a number of criteria, including taking care of a dependent child younger than 6, working at least 20 hours a week in paid employment, and participating in a state or federally funded work-study program.

Let the games continue.

KevlarKid

"IMO the large majority of American citizens understand the Founding Fathers did not account for something like the threat of a nationwide pandemic when they created the Constitution. Sometimes exceptions have to be made."

That opinion rests upon an absurd tri-partite assumption about a large majority of Americans
knowing: a)the identity of the Founders; b)what the Constitution is (a template for limited government); and, c) what the Consitution contains and why. Seems to me that without such knowledge there isn't basis for the presumed "understanding."

The Founders also didn't account for "57 states", deals between the US and rogue nations vs. treaties, 437 genders, ngo's, and the establishment and furtherance of national socialism in our federal government by legal means to name a few.

Extraneus

Stacey Abrams, Andrew Yang Push for $1,000 Payments for SNAP Recipients

Who gives a F what these two are pushing for?

Extraneus

N.Y. Gov. Cuomo Announces New Task Force Aimed At Reimagining ‘Future Of State’

“How do we use this situation and stop saying reopen, but reimagine and improve and build back better?” he asked. “Now is the time to do it and that’s what we’re doing in a multi-state regional coalition, and that’s very important because that is the smartest way to do it.”

Another set of central planners, ready to "reimagine" people's lives. May they face-plant quickly.

Tom R

KK @ 5:17

If you like I can change the wording to "IMO the large majority of Trump supporters...".

Old Lurker

Matt, I know it is real messy at the granular level.

But we don't really need so much detail anyway.

If the dead people v antibody exposures results in a lethality ratio on the scale of the seasonal flu, then all of these efforts are a waste of time, money and energy.

Say "never mind" and go about our business.

Every year 2,800,000 Americans die of something. If Covid is not going to move that needle much if at all, what are we doing?

Marlene

Jane,we're leaving the dates open. May 3-4.
Maybe we'll come over this week-end? I'll text you. No good-bye hugs allowed. :(

Old Lurker

Kev, as I posted earlier, the drafters of the Constitution had all lived through the deadly Smallpox epidemic that lasted from 1775 to 1782. If they thought a section of special powers would be needed for future epidemics, they would have written it.

MJW

Considering the fact McCabe was in effect instigating a coup against Trump, what is a better term to use than "thwarted"? Regardless of what is the best term to use, Whitaker confirmed Rosenstein actions were taken to protect Trump from McCabe who he knew to be corrupt.

When did Whitaker confirm that the appointment of Mueller was intended to protect Trump? Or that Rosenstein knew McCabe to be corrupt?

Whitiker said, "Ultimately what happened, and why Mueller was appointed, was because Andy McCabe put President Trump as a target of a criminal investigation, and decisions were made that created a cavalcade in a few days, of what ended up being the Mueller investigation."

Extraneus

Greenies panicking over the discrediting of computer models predicting disaster

jimmyk

“How do we use this situation and stop saying reopen, but reimagine and improve and build back better?”

This is just softer-sounding version of a NYT commenter Althouse quotes:

Lets all hope that the pre-virus Manhattan will not return. It was a place of excess, a playground for the uber-rich, where middle class people could work but not live. $500 jeans with engineered rips in the knees, insipid Jeff Koons sculpture made by "assistants" selling for millions while sycophantic curators belly up to donors who treat art like commodities. Our whole society, not just NYC, needs structural change. Our economy needs to work for everybody, not just hedge fund managers and silk stocking law firms. We need a health care system which delivers quality care to all. Why have we given up on an America which delivers on its promise to all?

Never let a crisis go to waste, right?

Manuel Transmission

It looks like the sign-language interpreter behind DeBlasio is signaling, 'DON'T BELIEVE THIS GUY!'

Does anyone else have their nose crinkle like a really smelly one was let every time a lefty guv or mayor has a useless doofus standing next to them wildly gesticulating? I always flash back to that awful gathering in SA with the JEF ogling the blond from Scandahuvia and the guy on stage was totally faking it.

Jane

Dave,

No one is supposed to know that!

Extraneus

Iranian ‘Prophetic Medicine’ Leader: Camel Urine Cures Coronavirus

Old Lurker

Cuomo and Newsom.

Bookends for the New World Order, US Chapter.

Talk about leveraging a nothing-burger into a Prog Wet Dream.

Jane

Great Marlene!

henry

Ext, leak that to the White House press corps, then set up a pay per view of them getting peed on by camels. You’ll get richer than betting on oil. ;)

sbwaters

First, limit the population of NYC to 200,000.

Then, ... Oh, wait-a-minute, many of the rest of them might move closer to me.

lyle

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/silver-lining-3.php

Looks like the US newspaper biz is experiencing Hemmingway’s adage about bankruptcy:

Gannett, the largest local newspaper owner in the US, has lost a scarcely believable 94% of its value since August 2019, much of that loss coming since mid-February.

But don’t worry, a professor at UNC has the answer:

We can hope that it raises awareness and a willingness to pay for news,” Abernathy said. “And a willingness to think through new ways of paying for that news – whether it’s through your tax dollars that publicly fund things, or whether it’s actually understanding that newspapers need to charge you more than what they’ve charged you in the past. Because the for-profit model that supported local news for 200 years has collapsed.

My emphasis. Wow, government-controlled news or they’ll have to charge us rubes more. Gramsci smiles.

Tom R

the drafters of the Constitution had all lived through the deadly Smallpox epidemic that lasted from 1775 to 1782. If they thought a section of special powers would be needed for future epidemics, they would have written it.

If you are correct, sounds like they addressed it in the "...promote the general Welfare" clause.

henry

Promote the general welfare clause...

Did someone here go to the doctor and accidentally get the wise Latina’s brain swapped in?

sbwaters

the for-profit model that supported local news for 200 years has collapsed

Lyle, the author is ignorant. The subscription-based model collapsed more than 100 years ago. People just don't see it.

They are surprised when I tell them that without advertising, a print newspaper delivered to their home would have a subscription price four times higher than they pay now.

henry

sbw, they think that without selling their personal info, Facebook would still be free. I blame the public indoctrination centers.

henry

Press conference feed is live... no one at the podium yet

DrJ

sbw,

I understand your frustration at having to explain your business as relayed by the "experts."

Tom R

MJW @ 5:30

It's simple logic. If Rosenstein was part of the coup to destroy Trump (as Sundance and Gatewaypundit have been advocating) then there would be no reason for Rosenstein to take the investigation away from a fellow coup member McCabe and start the process of getting him fired.

BTW if numerous JOM posters have figured out McCabe was corrupt, don't you think Rosenstein was well aware of it long before the public was? Trump notified the world in March 2017 that the Obama administration had spied on him. I think it's a foregone conclusion the inner circle of his cabinet were read in on all the facts available at the time.

lyle

the author is ignorant.

Well, I never! I’ll have you know that the “author” is the “the Knight chair in journalism and digital media economics at the University of North Carolina,” you impudent fool! I’ll not stand for such effrontery to this distinguished scholar!

😉

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